Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Well I finally have moved heaven and earth and have a few minutes on the computer. Just s few! I have been scanning posts again for about a week now as best I can and always just wish I had the time to really invest in all of the fantastic information flying around. For now I'll continue to just grab what I can as it passes by and see how it helps us. We start in January with Klinghardt, so I expect our world will be full of gifts and blessings then! We have started with the basics of his KPU protocol on our own, using what he has published online (thanks for the links!!). I wanted to pass on quickly an update on our parasite issues. We've done a 2nd round of Humaworm. 3 weeks in, I started again with the 'all is right and good' wonderful feeling of calm, strength, energy, focus. It is just a truly wonderful way to live and I hope to eventually get there full time with other supporting therapies, once I figure out exactly what is behind it. The girls are doing really well also. Our youngest daughter, who started with just a few particular parts of regression (crying all the time, loss of fine and gross motor skills, poor sleep, bowel problems), and whose stool samples (viewed at home on the microscope) revealed a sea of parasites, and who passed a 2.5 inch tapeworm on our first humaworm round, had a real breakthrough with this 2nd round and put on over 5 pounds and had a growth spurt!! She has always been so tiny (born under 6 pounds), and to see her with a Buddha belly is a joy. She also has more personality, more assertiveness. Mia, Ellie, and I have parasite updates but also are doing really well with the KPU protocol. So I'll touch on these both. Poor Ellie was born right when Mia started into her more severe regression. As Ellie was coming into consciousness in the world her mom and dad were dealing with extreme screaming, aggressive fits, meltdowns, hyper anxiety, acute irrational fears, and 5-15 night terrors a night. For years I would go to Mia's bed at bedtime, laying with her to help her go to sleep. My husband was not really getting it all, and didn't give extra comfort to Ellie, so she lay in bed each night, all alone, seeing us going over to the screaming, mean sister's bed. Needless to say, she developed some emotional issues over this that we've been working hard to address. There was a real wall, though- a binding up of her ability to access and address obvious emotions. She was just often a sad, dark cloud. Well since starting the KPU protocol, she has unlocked this access and we have been able to start working through her feelings in little bits each day! I wish I could somehow relate the changes. The simplest thing to say is that all of the things I've been trying to do to reach out to her are finally working and are becoming calming and supporting to her. As one example, for so long she wouldn't let us give her kisses, or even hugs at certain times (yes, could be some sensory issues, but she loves to pile on 5 different shirts and will even wear itchy tutus and dress up clothes, so there does not seem to be any tactile sensitivity going on). Starting the KPU protocol, she finally one night asked for a good night kiss. Now, would you believe, when she is nervous for any reason she turns to me immediately and asks for hugs and a kiss!!!! We are really bonding now in a way I have never been able to with her. Mia is doing phenomenally well also. We are basically now squarely in the ADHD phase. BUT, Mia also has a new found ability to reason her way out of over-reactive episodes and meltdowns. I can simply say 'you're reacting (as in having a food/environmental microglial/mast cell reaction) Mia', 'don't listen to your brain', and she can most of the time pull herself out of it within a couple of minutes. So she still has the reactions, but her deep attachment to them as the sole reality, the only thing existing, is dwindling. I still want to get her fully well so that we don't have the reactions, but this newfound reason is a great gift. Mia had significant metals detoxing when we started on the KPU protocol, and I think that clearing her body of metals and supporting her hormonal regulation in the protocol has given us this new 'reasoning'. But we still have the overexcited immune response to chase down. Any suggestions are welcome! So for me. This is hard to relate also. Part of why I haven't posted is because it is so hard to relate the significance of our changes- they are more sweeping and significant, yet subtle at the same time. The little paragraphs above about the girls barely touch the surface of what deworming and going on the KPU protocol has done for them. But I'll keep trying. For me, I have had so many ups and downs. I did significant liver flushing while taking Humaworm and this brought intense rounds of anger. The anger was of merit- I had a lot to work through in my marriage and extended family, and with my relationship to this polluted world that made me and my children sick, (and all of our children!), and the polluted health care system that injured my two partially vaccinated children. But it is interesting that the liver cleanse really intensified this. I had to really work to direct the anger and keep it from leaving a barren fire-parched wasteland all around me. The effort was well worth it. I made the most of it and used it to clean house in my life and make changes. So, first came the rounds of intense and for long stretches nearly inexhaustible anger from supporting the liver during parasite cleansing. Next I started the KPU protocol which in large part involves supplementing zinc. Shortly into the zinc supplementation I started another round of bouts with demons- this time hormonal ones. I did not know, but zinc, because it is so essential in hormone pathways, (or the enzyme functions that produce hormones or something specific that I don't entirely remember), is a leading supplement for men's prostate health. So looking at Klinghardrt's protocol concepts, when zinc is missing, you don't have proper enyme functions (you also fix metals from the environment in your body that these enzyme pathways use because zinc is not available), so don't have proper hormone function. I didn't think about this starting in, and just wanted to do it to support the immune system, address the gross deficiency caused by KPU, support deworming (a zincless stomach lining allows parasite infestation), and support natural chelating (as the zinc finds its proper place in the enzyme pathways the body dumps the metals it was holding in its place). - -Let me apologize right now for my over simplification of these complex proceses. There is just too much information to hold onto it all. - - So, to get back to the story, shortly into the KPU I started on these profound- I mean PROFOUND hormonal swings. I could not believe the manifestation and at first did not know what was going on. So, to explain, this will sound silly. But let me try. At ovulation each month, I started with extreme sexual desire. Let me say I am 39 with three kids, significant health issues, and challenges in my marriage. I am tired. To be hit with sexual desire was a less than amusing and wholly shocking experience. It is funny to say, but for the first time in my life I understood what all of those 18 year old boys were talking about when they said 'I am going to die if I don't have sex'. This was just preposterous. But for 3 cycles I walked around like this. I was positively obsessed with the idea of being with another man. It was difficult, let me tell you, to function with my head constantly ringing, 24 hours a day, 'procreate, procreate' . . . .. I thought it was menopause, I thought it was years of pent up desire, I thought lots of things. Never once did I think it was zinc. Until in the last cycle, over the last 30 days, I came out of it completely. Around the same time I found some supporting evidence that the protocol could bring this swing on. So silly. It amazes me how going through 'healing' could wreck my life. Sure, it could have liberated my life, I could have found a new man, yada yada yada, you have no idea how deeply I struggled with this concept. But coming out of it all my husband is JUST FINE. We even have a good relationship now. So, mental illness I have to say again, as I have before, is something that is always on my mind as I walk this path towards wellness. There is more to share on the hormonal balance but I am running out of time and want to get back to the nuts and bolts of one interesting deworming issue. We continue to do stool tests at home with our microscope. The girls seem to be clear of everything and their food is more digested- looking good overall. I have fallen off of their sampling over this full moon and need to dive back in again to see if the roundworm eggs are gone in Mia and Sophie. Ellie is clear. My husband and I are not. So with this full moon, even though we ended Humaworm just a few days ago, I am still having signs of egg shedding and stool samples show significant eggs. These are of microscopic roundworms, Ascaris. The ascaris is particularly implicated by Klinghardt- they proliferate in a zincless intestinal lining and complete part of their life cycle in the lungs. They are generally implicated in Asthma. They are also implicated in seizures in dogs with severe infestations. So of interest, I occasionally wake up with tight lungs. When I breath, it is slightly painful. I have always felt this was something like emphazema or asthma and doctors have advised various invasive tests or medications. So, the last two mornings I have woken up with this pain. Also I have had joint swelling. Knowing what I know now, I see this all coming on exactly when anal itching started and ascaris eggs showed up in my samples. For me, the ascaris egg laying flares directly correlate to symptoms of asthma and joint pain. I am not yet sure how to get rid of the Ascaris. They are the only 'worm' that the general Humaworm protocol has not eliminated. I am sure Klinghardt will provide a path on this when we see him, but if anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I'd love to hear them. I am thinking that they are hard to get because of their life cycling in the lungs. Of interest we see very few actual roundworms in stool tests anymore, only the eggs. So I am thinking of doing the humaworm lung cleanse next. Will see. I wonder if doing some steam inhalation of an herb would help? Well I apologize for my rather campy description of our family update. At each step in our process I intensely learn the science, then make a decision, and by the time we move through that decision into and past action a lot of the detail has become diluted in my mind and I find it easier to just explain what happened on the ground. THANKS THANKS so much to all of you who give your best everyday and take the time to share it with our family. I am humbled in gratitude and give you all of my greatest thanks. OH, lastly, Ellie is still wracked with keratosis pilaris, any and all recommendations for this are welcome. I have read that it is related to a vit a deficiency (because of the measles virus eating up her A? Because of poor fat soluble vitamin absorption?), but just am back at the starting block on this one. Someone posted a good lotion- what was this? I want to of course wholly address the underlying issue, but would like to also bring the surface rash down a little if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 woo! melissa! I love your posts! love how you share so much...i need to get my pad of paper and write down all your juicy tid bits... im so with you on the whole emotional aspect of healing....one does not go without the other...i so want to get back to a safe place where i can start meditating and fasting for that is how i cleanse my emotions.... liver cleanse hmmmm.....yes extra strenght please:) i am trying to figure out my sons zinc intolerance growth issues....so parasite and zinc is another possibillty... but I dont do my son any justice at all when my own toxic emotions are all over the place...we all got to heal ourselves as much as we heal our kids..... keep keepin us posted in your journey with klinghartd.. channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:28 AMSubject: Hmaworm update, KPU, etc Well I finally have moved heaven and earth and have a few minutes on the computer. Just s few! I have been scanning posts again for about a week now as best I can and always just wish I had the time to really invest in all of the fantastic information flying around. For now I'll continue to just grab what I can as it passes by and see how it helps us. We start in January with Klinghardt, so I expect our world will be full of gifts and blessings then! We have started with the basics of his KPU protocol on our own, using what he has published online (thanks for the links!!). I wanted to pass on quickly an update on our parasite issues. We've done a 2nd round of Humaworm. 3 weeks in, I started again with the 'all is right and good' wonderful feeling of calm, strength, energy, focus. It is just a truly wonderful way to live and I hope to eventually get there full time with other supporting therapies, once I figure out exactly what is behind it. The girls are doing really well also. Our youngest daughter, who started with just a few particular parts of regression (crying all the time, loss of fine and gross motor skills, poor sleep, bowel problems), and whose stool samples (viewed at home on the microscope) revealed a sea of parasites, and who passed a 2.5 inch tapeworm on our first humaworm round, had a real breakthrough with this 2nd round and put on over 5 pounds and had a growth spurt!! She has always been so tiny (born under 6 pounds), and to see her with a Buddha belly is a joy. She also has more personality, more assertiveness.Mia, Ellie, and I have parasite updates but also are doing really well with the KPU protocol. So I'll touch on these both. Poor Ellie was born right when Mia started into her more severe regression. As Ellie was coming into consciousness in the world her mom and dad were dealing with extreme screaming, aggressive fits, meltdowns, hyper anxiety, acute irrational fears, and 5-15 night terrors a night. For years I would go to Mia's bed at bedtime, laying with her to help her go to sleep. My husband was not really getting it all, and didn't give extra comfort to Ellie, so she lay in bed each night, all alone, seeing us going over to the screaming, mean sister's bed. Needless to say, she developed some emotional issues over this that we've been working hard to address. There was a real wall, though- a binding up of her ability to access and address obvious emotions. She was just often a sad, dark cloud. Well since starting the KPU protocol, she has unlocked this access and we have been able to start working through her feelings in little bits each day! I wish I could somehow relate the changes. The simplest thing to say is that all of the things I've been trying to do to reach out to her are finally working and are becoming calming and supporting to her. As one example, for so long she wouldn't let us give her kisses, or even hugs at certain times (yes, could be some sensory issues, but she loves to pile on 5 different shirts and will even wear itchy tutus and dress up clothes, so there does not seem to be any tactile sensitivity going on). Starting the KPU protocol, she finally one night asked for a good night kiss. Now, would you believe, when she is nervous for any reason she turns to me immediately and asks for hugs and a kiss!!!! We are really bonding now in a way I have never been able to with her.Mia is doing phenomenally well also. We are basically now squarely in the ADHD phase. BUT, Mia also has a new found ability to reason her way out of over-reactive episodes and meltdowns. I can simply say 'you're reacting (as in having a food/environmental microglial/mast cell reaction) Mia', 'don't listen to your brain', and she can most of the time pull herself out of it within a couple of minutes. So she still has the reactions, but her deep attachment to them as the sole reality, the only thing existing, is dwindling. I still want to get her fully well so that we don't have the reactions, but this newfound reason is a great gift. Mia had significant metals detoxing when we started on the KPU protocol, and I think that clearing her body of metals and supporting her hormonal regulation in the protocol has given us this new 'reasoning'. But we still have the overexcited immune response to chase down. Any suggestions are welcome!So for me. This is hard to relate also. Part of why I haven't posted is because it is so hard to relate the significance of our changes- they are more sweeping and significant, yet subtle at the same time. The little paragraphs above about the girls barely touch the surface of what deworming and going on the KPU protocol has done for them. But I'll keep trying. For me, I have had so many ups and downs. I did significant liver flushing while taking Humaworm and this brought intense rounds of anger. The anger was of merit- I had a lot to work through in my marriage and extended family, and with my relationship to this polluted world that made me and my children sick, (and all of our children!), and the polluted health care system that injured my two partially vaccinated children. But it is interesting that the liver cleanse really intensified this. I had to really work to direct the anger and keep it from leaving a barren fire-parched wasteland all around me. The effort was well worth it. I made the most of it and used it to clean house in my life and make changes. So, first came the rounds of intense and for long stretches nearly inexhaustible anger from supporting the liver during parasite cleansing. Next I started the KPU protocol which in large part involves supplementing zinc. Shortly into the zinc supplementation I started another round of bouts with demons- this time hormonal ones. I did not know, but zinc, because it is so essential in hormone pathways, (or the enzyme functions that produce hormones or something specific that I don't entirely remember), is a leading supplement for men's prostate health. So looking at Klinghardrt's protocol concepts, when zinc is missing, you don't have proper enyme functions (you also fix metals from the environment in your body that these enzyme pathways use because zinc is not available), so don't have proper hormone function. I didn't think about this starting in, and just wanted to do it to support the immune system, address the gross deficiency caused by KPU, support deworming (a zincless stomach lining allows parasite infestation), and support natural chelating (as the zinc finds its proper place in the enzyme pathways the body dumps the metals it was holding in its place). - -Let me apologize right now for my over simplification of these complex proceses. There is just too much information to hold onto it all. - - So, to get back to the story, shortly into the KPU I started on these profound- I mean PROFOUND hormonal swings. I could not believe the manifestation and at first did not know what was going on. So, to explain, this will sound silly. But let me try. At ovulation each month, I started with extreme sexual desire. Let me say I am 39 with three kids, significant health issues, and challenges in my marriage. I am tired. To be hit with sexual desire was a less than amusing and wholly shocking experience. It is funny to say, but for the first time in my life I understood what all of those 18 year old boys were talking about when they said 'I am going to die if I don't have sex'. This was just preposterous. But for 3 cycles I walked around like this. I was positively obsessed with the idea of being with another man. It was difficult, let me tell you, to function with my head constantly ringing, 24 hours a day, 'procreate, procreate' . . . ... I thought it was menopause, I thought it was years of pent up desire, I thought lots of things. Never once did I think it was zinc. Until in the last cycle, over the last 30 days, I came out of it completely. Around the same time I found some supporting evidence that the protocol could bring this swing on. So silly. It amazes me how going through 'healing' could wreck my life. Sure, it could have liberated my life, I could have found a new man, yada yada yada, you have no idea how deeply I struggled with this concept. But coming out of it all my husband is JUST FINE. We even have a good relationship now. So, mental illness I have to say again, as I have before, is something that is always on my mind as I walk this path towards wellness.There is more to share on the hormonal balance but I am running out of time and want to get back to the nuts and bolts of one interesting deworming issue. We continue to do stool tests at home with our microscope. The girls seem to be clear of everything and their food is more digested- looking good overall. I have fallen off of their sampling over this full moon and need to dive back in again to see if the roundworm eggs are gone in Mia and Sophie. Ellie is clear. My husband and I are not. So with this full moon, even though we ended Humaworm just a few days ago, I am still having signs of egg shedding and stool samples show significant eggs. These are of microscopic roundworms, Ascaris. The ascaris is particularly implicated by Klinghardt- they proliferate in a zincless intestinal lining and complete part of their life cycle in the lungs. They are generally implicated in Asthma. They are also implicated in seizures in dogs with severe infestations. So of interest, I occasionally wake up with tight lungs. When I breath, it is slightly painful. I have always felt this was something like emphazema or asthma and doctors have advised various invasive tests or medications. So, the last two mornings I have woken up with this pain. Also I have had joint swelling. Knowing what I know now, I see this all coming on exactly when anal itching started and ascaris eggs showed up in my samples. For me, the ascaris egg laying flares directly correlate to symptoms of asthma and joint pain. I am not yet sure how to get rid of the Ascaris. They are the only 'worm' that the general Humaworm protocol has not eliminated. I am sure Klinghardt will provide a path on this when we see him, but if anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I'd love to hear them. I am thinking that they are hard to get because of their life cycling in the lungs. Of interest we see very few actual roundworms in stool tests anymore, only the eggs. So I am thinking of doing the humaworm lung cleanse next. Will see. I wonder if doing some steam inhalation of an herb would help?Well I apologize for my rather campy description of our family update. At each step in our process I intensely learn the science, then make a decision, and by the time we move through that decision into and past action a lot of the detail has become diluted in my mind and I find it easier to just explain what happened on the ground.THANKS THANKS so much to all of you who give your best everyday and take the time to share it with our family. I am humbled in gratitude and give you all of my greatest thanks.OH, lastly, Ellie is still wracked with keratosis pilaris, any and all recommendations for this are welcome. I have read that it is related to a vit a deficiency (because of the measles virus eating up her A? Because of poor fat soluble vitamin absorption?), but just am back at the starting block on this one. Someone posted a good lotion- what was this? I want to of course wholly address the underlying issue, but would like to also bring the surface rash down a little if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Did the KPU protocal flair MIA's overexcited immune response? I figured that someone with that issue would not be able to do the KPU protocal? Thanks,Tammy F. Well I finally have moved heaven and earth and have a few minutes on the computer. Just s few! I have been scanning posts again for about a week now as best I can and always just wish I had the time to really invest in all of the fantastic information flying around. For now I'll continue to just grab what I can as it passes by and see how it helps us. We start in January with Klinghardt, so I expect our world will be full of gifts and blessings then! We have started with the basics of his KPU protocol on our own, using what he has published online (thanks for the links!!). I wanted to pass on quickly an update on our parasite issues. We've done a 2nd round of Humaworm. 3 weeks in, I started again with the 'all is right and good' wonderful feeling of calm, strength, energy, focus. It is just a truly wonderful way to live and I hope to eventually get there full time with other supporting therapies, once I figure out exactly what is behind it. The girls are doing really well also. Our youngest daughter, who started with just a few particular parts of regression (crying all the time, loss of fine and gross motor skills, poor sleep, bowel problems), and whose stool samples (viewed at home on the microscope) revealed a sea of parasites, and who passed a 2.5 inch tapeworm on our first humaworm round, had a real breakthrough with this 2nd round and put on over 5 pounds and had a growth spurt!! She has always been so tiny (born under 6 pounds), and to see her with a Buddha belly is a joy. She also has more personality, more assertiveness. Mia, Ellie, and I have parasite updates but also are doing really well with the KPU protocol. So I'll touch on these both. Poor Ellie was born right when Mia started into her more severe regression. As Ellie was coming into consciousness in the world her mom and dad were dealing with extreme screaming, aggressive fits, meltdowns, hyper anxiety, acute irrational fears, and 5-15 night terrors a night. For years I would go to Mia's bed at bedtime, laying with her to help her go to sleep. My husband was not really getting it all, and didn't give extra comfort to Ellie, so she lay in bed each night, all alone, seeing us going over to the screaming, mean sister's bed. Needless to say, she developed some emotional issues over this that we've been working hard to address. There was a real wall, though- a binding up of her ability to access and address obvious emotions. She was just often a sad, dark cloud. Well since starting the KPU protocol, she has unlocked this access and we have been able to start working through her feelings in little bits each day! I wish I could somehow relate the changes. The simplest thing to say is that all of the things I've been trying to do to reach out to her are finally working and are becoming calming and supporting to her. As one example, for so long she wouldn't let us give her kisses, or even hugs at certain times (yes, could be some sensory issues, but she loves to pile on 5 different shirts and will even wear itchy tutus and dress up clothes, so there does not seem to be any tactile sensitivity going on). Starting the KPU protocol, she finally one night asked for a good night kiss. Now, would you believe, when she is nervous for any reason she turns to me immediately and asks for hugs and a kiss!!!! We are really bonding now in a way I have never been able to with her. Mia is doing phenomenally well also. We are basically now squarely in the ADHD phase. BUT, Mia also has a new found ability to reason her way out of over-reactive episodes and meltdowns. I can simply say 'you're reacting (as in having a food/environmental microglial/mast cell reaction) Mia', 'don't listen to your brain', and she can most of the time pull herself out of it within a couple of minutes. So she still has the reactions, but her deep attachment to them as the sole reality, the only thing existing, is dwindling. I still want to get her fully well so that we don't have the reactions, but this newfound reason is a great gift. Mia had significant metals detoxing when we started on the KPU protocol, and I think that clearing her body of metals and supporting her hormonal regulation in the protocol has given us this new 'reasoning'. But we still have the overexcited immune response to chase down. Any suggestions are welcome! So for me. This is hard to relate also. Part of why I haven't posted is because it is so hard to relate the significance of our changes- they are more sweeping and significant, yet subtle at the same time. The little paragraphs above about the girls barely touch the surface of what deworming and going on the KPU protocol has done for them. But I'll keep trying. For me, I have had so many ups and downs. I did significant liver flushing while taking Humaworm and this brought intense rounds of anger. The anger was of merit- I had a lot to work through in my marriage and extended family, and with my relationship to this polluted world that made me and my children sick, (and all of our children!), and the polluted health care system that injured my two partially vaccinated children. But it is interesting that the liver cleanse really intensified this. I had to really work to direct the anger and keep it from leaving a barren fire-parched wasteland all around me. The effort was well worth it. I made the most of it and used it to clean house in my life and make changes. So, first came the rounds of intense and for long stretches nearly inexhaustible anger from supporting the liver during parasite cleansing. Next I started the KPU protocol which in large part involves supplementing zinc. Shortly into the zinc supplementation I started another round of bouts with demons- this time hormonal ones. I did not know, but zinc, because it is so essential in hormone pathways, (or the enzyme functions that produce hormones or something specific that I don't entirely remember), is a leading supplement for men's prostate health. So looking at Klinghardrt's protocol concepts, when zinc is missing, you don't have proper enyme functions (you also fix metals from the environment in your body that these enzyme pathways use because zinc is not available), so don't have proper hormone function. I didn't think about this starting in, and just wanted to do it to support the immune system, address the gross deficiency caused by KPU, support deworming (a zincless stomach lining allows parasite infestation), and support natural chelating (as the zinc finds its proper place in the enzyme pathways the body dumps the metals it was holding in its place). - -Let me apologize right now for my over simplification of these complex proceses. There is just too much information to hold onto it all. - - So, to get back to the story, shortly into the KPU I started on these profound- I mean PROFOUND hormonal swings. I could not believe the manifestation and at first did not know what was going on. So, to explain, this will sound silly. But let me try. At ovulation each month, I started with extreme sexual desire. Let me say I am 39 with three kids, significant health issues, and challenges in my marriage. I am tired. To be hit with sexual desire was a less than amusing and wholly shocking experience. It is funny to say, but for the first time in my life I understood what all of those 18 year old boys were talking about when they said 'I am going to die if I don't have sex'. This was just preposterous. But for 3 cycles I walked around like this. I was positively obsessed with the idea of being with another man. It was difficult, let me tell you, to function with my head constantly ringing, 24 hours a day, 'procreate, procreate' . . . .. I thought it was menopause, I thought it was years of pent up desire, I thought lots of things. Never once did I think it was zinc. Until in the last cycle, over the last 30 days, I came out of it completely. Around the same time I found some supporting evidence that the protocol could bring this swing on. So silly. It amazes me how going through 'healing' could wreck my life. Sure, it could have liberated my life, I could have found a new man, yada yada yada, you have no idea how deeply I struggled with this concept. But coming out of it all my husband is JUST FINE. We even have a good relationship now. So, mental illness I have to say again, as I have before, is something that is always on my mind as I walk this path towards wellness. There is more to share on the hormonal balance but I am running out of time and want to get back to the nuts and bolts of one interesting deworming issue. We continue to do stool tests at home with our microscope. The girls seem to be clear of everything and their food is more digested- looking good overall. I have fallen off of their sampling over this full moon and need to dive back in again to see if the roundworm eggs are gone in Mia and Sophie. Ellie is clear. My husband and I are not. So with this full moon, even though we ended Humaworm just a few days ago, I am still having signs of egg shedding and stool samples show significant eggs. These are of microscopic roundworms, Ascaris. The ascaris is particularly implicated by Klinghardt- they proliferate in a zincless intestinal lining and complete part of their life cycle in the lungs. They are generally implicated in Asthma. They are also implicated in seizures in dogs with severe infestations. So of interest, I occasionally wake up with tight lungs. When I breath, it is slightly painful. I have always felt this was something like emphazema or asthma and doctors have advised various invasive tests or medications. So, the last two mornings I have woken up with this pain. Also I have had joint swelling. Knowing what I know now, I see this all coming on exactly when anal itching started and ascaris eggs showed up in my samples. For me, the ascaris egg laying flares directly correlate to symptoms of asthma and joint pain. I am not yet sure how to get rid of the Ascaris. They are the only 'worm' that the general Humaworm protocol has not eliminated. I am sure Klinghardt will provide a path on this when we see him, but if anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I'd love to hear them. I am thinking that they are hard to get because of their life cycling in the lungs. Of interest we see very few actual roundworms in stool tests anymore, only the eggs. So I am thinking of doing the humaworm lung cleanse next. Will see. I wonder if doing some steam inhalation of an herb would help? Well I apologize for my rather campy description of our family update. At each step in our process I intensely learn the science, then make a decision, and by the time we move through that decision into and past action a lot of the detail has become diluted in my mind and I find it easier to just explain what happened on the ground. THANKS THANKS so much to all of you who give your best everyday and take the time to share it with our family. I am humbled in gratitude and give you all of my greatest thanks. OH, lastly, Ellie is still wracked with keratosis pilaris, any and all recommendations for this are welcome. I have read that it is related to a vit a deficiency (because of the measles virus eating up her A? Because of poor fat soluble vitamin absorption?), but just am back at the starting block on this one. Someone posted a good lotion- what was this? I want to of course wholly address the underlying issue, but would like to also bring the surface rash down a little if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Pardon my ignorance what is kpuLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:21:26 -0600To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Hmaworm update, KPU, etc Did the KPU protocal flair MIA's overexcited immune response? Ifigured that someone with that issue would not be able to do the KPUprotocal? Thanks,Tammy F. Well I finally have moved heaven and earth and have a fewminutes on the computer. Just s few! I have been scanningposts again for about a week now as best I can and alwaysjust wish I had the time to really invest in all of thefantastic information flying around. For now I'll continueto just grab what I can as it passes by and see how ithelps us. We start in January with Klinghardt, so I expectour world will be full of gifts and blessings then! Wehave started with the basics of his KPU protocol on ourown, using what he has published online (thanks for thelinks!!). I wanted to pass on quickly an update on our parasiteissues. We've done a 2nd round of Humaworm. 3 weeks in, Istarted again with the 'all is right and good' wonderfulfeeling of calm, strength, energy, focus. It is just atruly wonderful way to live and I hope to eventually getthere full time with other supporting therapies, once Ifigure out exactly what is behind it. The girls are doingreally well also. Our youngest daughter, who started withjust a few particular parts of regression (crying all thetime, loss of fine and gross motor skills, poor sleep,bowel problems), and whose stool samples (viewed at homeon the microscope) revealed a sea of parasites, and whopassed a 2.5 inch tapeworm on our first humaworm round,had a real breakthrough with this 2nd round and put onover 5 pounds and had a growth spurt!! She has always beenso tiny (born under 6 pounds), and to see her with aBuddha belly is a joy. She also has more personality, moreassertiveness.Mia, Ellie, and I have parasite updates but also are doingreally well with the KPU protocol. So I'll touch on theseboth. Poor Ellie was born right when Mia started into hermore severe regression. As Ellie was coming intoconsciousness in the world her mom and dad were dealingwith extreme screaming, aggressive fits, meltdowns, hyperanxiety, acute irrational fears, and 5-15 night terrors anight. For years I would go to Mia's bed at bedtime,laying with her to help her go to sleep. My husband wasnot really getting it all, and didn't give extra comfortto Ellie, so she lay in bed each night, all alone, seeingus going over to the screaming, mean sister's bed.Needless to say, she developed some emotional issues overthis that we've been working hard to address. There was areal wall, though- a binding up of her ability to accessand address obvious emotions. She was just often a sad,dark cloud. Well since starting the KPU protocol, she hasunlocked this access and we have been able to startworking through her feelings in little bits each day! Iwish I could somehow relate the changes. The simplestthing to say is that all of the things I've been trying todo to reach out to her are finally working and arebecoming calming and supporting to her. As one example,for so long she wouldn't let us give her kisses, or evenhugs at certain times (yes, could be some sensory issues,but she loves to pile on 5 different shirts and will evenwear itchy tutus and dress up clothes, so there does notseem to be any tactile sensitivity going on). Starting theKPU protocol, she finally one night asked for a good nightkiss. Now, would you believe, when she is nervous for anyreason she turns to me immediately and asks for hugs and akiss!!!! We are really bonding now in a way I have neverbeen able to with her.Mia is doing phenomenally well also. We are basically nowsquarely in the ADHD phase. BUT, Mia also has a new foundability to reason her way out of over-reactive episodesand meltdowns. I can simply say 'you're reacting (as inhaving a food/environmental microglial/mast cell reaction)Mia', 'don't listen to your brain', and she can most ofthe time pull herself out of it within a couple ofminutes. So she still has the reactions, but her deepattachment to them as the sole reality, the only thingexisting, is dwindling. I still want to get her fully wellso that we don't have the reactions, but this newfoundreason is a great gift. Mia had significant metalsdetoxing when we started on the KPU protocol, and I thinkthat clearing her body of metals and supporting herhormonal regulation in the protocol has given us this new'reasoning'. But we still have the overexcited immuneresponse to chase down. Any suggestions are welcome!So for me. This is hard to relate also. Part of why Ihaven't posted is because it is so hard to relate thesignificance of our changes- they are more sweeping andsignificant, yet subtle at the same time. The littleparagraphs above about the girls barely touch the surfaceof what deworming and going on the KPU protocol has donefor them. But I'll keep trying. For me, I have had so many ups and downs. I didsignificant liver flushing while taking Humaworm and thisbrought intense rounds of anger. The anger was of merit- Ihad a lot to work through in my marriage and extendedfamily, and with my relationship to this polluted worldthat made me and my children sick, (and all of ourchildren!), and the polluted health care system thatinjured my two partially vaccinated children. But it isinteresting that the liver cleanse really intensifiedthis. I had to really work to direct the anger and keep itfrom leaving a barren fire-parched wasteland all aroundme. The effort was well worth it. I made the most of itand used it to clean house in my life and make changes.So, first came the rounds of intense and for longstretches nearly inexhaustible anger from supporting theliver during parasite cleansing. Next I started the KPUprotocol which in large part involves supplementing zinc.Shortly into the zinc supplementation I started anotherround of bouts with demons- this time hormonal ones. I didnot know, but zinc, because it is so essential in hormonepathways, (or the enzyme functions that produce hormonesor something specific that I don't entirely remember), isa leading supplement for men's prostate health. So lookingat Klinghardrt's protocol concepts, when zinc is missing,you don't have proper enyme functions (you also fix metalsfrom the environment in your body that these enzymepathways use because zinc is not available), so don't haveproper hormone function. I didn't think about thisstarting in, and just wanted to do it to support theimmune system, address the gross deficiency caused by KPU,support deworming (a zincless stomach lining allowsparasite infestation), and support natural chelating (asthe zinc finds its proper place in the enzyme pathways thebody dumps the metals it was holding in its place). - -Letme apologize right now for my over simplification of thesecomplex proceses. There is just too much information tohold onto it all. - - So, to get back to the story, shortly into the KPU Istarted on these profound- I mean PROFOUND hormonalswings. I could not believe the manifestation and at firstdid not know what was going on. So, to explain, this willsound silly. But let me try. At ovulation each month, Istarted with extreme sexual desire. Let me say I am 39with three kids, significant health issues, and challengesin my marriage. I am tired. To be hit with sexual desirewas a less than amusing and wholly shocking experience. Itis funny to say, but for the first time in my life Iunderstood what all of those 18 year old boys were talkingabout when they said 'I am going to die if I don't havesex'. This was just preposterous. But for 3 cycles Iwalked around like this. I was positively obsessed withthe idea of being with another man. It was difficult, letme tell you, to function with my head constantly ringing,24 hours a day, 'procreate, procreate' . . . .. I thoughtit was menopause, I thought it was years of pent updesire, I thought lots of things. Never once did I thinkit was zinc. Until in the last cycle, over the last 30days, I came out of it completely. Around the same time Ifound some supporting evidence that the protocol couldbring this swing on. So silly. It amazes me how goingthrough 'healing' could wreck my life. Sure, it could haveliberated my life, I could have found a new man, yada yadayada, you have no idea how deeply I struggled with thisconcept. But coming out of it all my husband is JUST FINE.We even have a good relationship now. So, mental illness Ihave to say again, as I have before, is something that isalways on my mind as I walk this path towards wellness.There is more to share on the hormonal balance but I amrunning out of time and want to get back to the nuts andbolts of one interesting deworming issue. We continue todo stool tests at home with our microscope. The girls seemto be clear of everything and their food is more digested-looking good overall. I have fallen off of their samplingover this full moon and need to dive back in again to seeif the roundworm eggs are gone in Mia and Sophie. Ellie isclear. My husband and I are not. So with this full moon,even though we ended Humaworm just a few days ago, I amstill having signs of egg shedding and stool samples showsignificant eggs. These are of microscopic roundworms,Ascaris. The ascaris is particularly implicated byKlinghardt- they proliferate in a zincless intestinallining and complete part of their life cycle in the lungs.They are generally implicated in Asthma. They are alsoimplicated in seizures in dogs with severe infestations.So of interest, I occasionally wake up with tight lungs.When I breath, it is slightly painful. I have always feltthis was something like emphazema or asthma and doctorshave advised various invasive tests or medications. So,the last two mornings I have woken up with this pain. AlsoI have had joint swelling. Knowing what I know now, I seethis all coming on exactly when anal itching started andascaris eggs showed up in my samples. For me, the ascarisegg laying flares directly correlate to symptoms of asthmaand joint pain. I am not yet sure how to get rid of the Ascaris. They arethe only 'worm' that the general Humaworm protocol has noteliminated. I am sure Klinghardt will provide a path onthis when we see him, but if anyone has any ideas in themeantime, I'd love to hear them. I am thinking that theyare hard to get because of their life cycling in thelungs. Of interest we see very few actual roundworms instool tests anymore, only the eggs. So I am thinking ofdoing the humaworm lung cleanse next. Will see. I wonderif doing some steam inhalation of an herb would help?Well I apologize for my rather campy description of ourfamily update. At each step in our process I intenselylearn the science, then make a decision, and by the timewe move through that decision into and past action a lotof the detail has become diluted in my mind and I find iteasier to just explain what happened on the ground.THANKS THANKS so much to all of you who give your besteveryday and take the time to share it with our family. Iam humbled in gratitude and give you all of my greatestthanks.OH, lastly, Ellie is still wracked with keratosis pilaris,any and all recommendations for this are welcome. I haveread that it is related to a vit a deficiency (because ofthe measles virus eating up her A? Because of poor fatsoluble vitamin absorption?), but just am back at thestarting block on this one. Someone posted a good lotion-what was this? I want to of course wholly address theunderlying issue, but would like to also bring the surfacerash down a little if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 i have heard of some products with earth worm in it for kicking the immune system back into T1 mode... To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:21 AMSubject: Re: Hmaworm update, KPU, etc Did the KPU protocal flair MIA's overexcited immune response? I figured that someone with that issue would not be able to do the KPU protocal? Thanks,Tammy F. Well I finally have moved heaven and earth and have a few minutes on the computer. Just s few! I have been scanning posts again for about a week now as best I can and always just wish I had the time to really invest in all of the fantastic information flying around. For now I'll continue to just grab what I can as it passes by and see how it helps us. We start in January with Klinghardt, so I expect our world will be full of gifts and blessings then! We have started with the basics of his KPU protocol on our own, using what he has published online (thanks for the links!!). I wanted to pass on quickly an update on our parasite issues. We've done a 2nd round of Humaworm. 3 weeks in, I started again with the 'all is right and good' wonderful feeling of calm, strength, energy, focus. It is just a truly wonderful way to live and I hope to eventually get there full time with other supporting therapies, once I figure out exactly what is behind it. The girls are doing really well also. Our youngest daughter, who started with just a few particular parts of regression (crying all the time, loss of fine and gross motor skills, poor sleep, bowel problems), and whose stool samples (viewed at home on the microscope) revealed a sea of parasites, and who passed a 2.5 inch tapeworm on our first humaworm round, had a real breakthrough with this 2nd round and put on over 5 pounds and had a growth spurt!! She has always been so tiny (born under 6 pounds), and to see her with a Buddha belly is a joy. She also has more personality, more assertiveness.Mia, Ellie, and I have parasite updates but also are doing really well with the KPU protocol. So I'll touch on these both. Poor Ellie was born right when Mia started into her more severe regression. As Ellie was coming into consciousness in the world her mom and dad were dealing with extreme screaming, aggressive fits, meltdowns, hyper anxiety, acute irrational fears, and 5-15 night terrors a night. For years I would go to Mia's bed at bedtime, laying with her to help her go to sleep. My husband was not really getting it all, and didn't give extra comfort to Ellie, so she lay in bed each night, all alone, seeing us going over to the screaming, mean sister's bed. Needless to say, she developed some emotional issues over this that we've been working hard to address. There was a real wall, though- a binding up of her ability to access and address obvious emotions. She was just often a sad, dark cloud. Well since starting the KPU protocol, she has unlocked this access and we have been able to start working through her feelings in little bits each day! I wish I could somehow relate the changes. The simplest thing to say is that all of the things I've been trying to do to reach out to her are finally working and are becoming calming and supporting to her. As one example, for so long she wouldn't let us give her kisses, or even hugs at certain times (yes, could be some sensory issues, but she loves to pile on 5 different shirts and will even wear itchy tutus and dress up clothes, so there does not seem to be any tactile sensitivity going on). Starting the KPU protocol, she finally one night asked for a good night kiss. Now, would you believe, when she is nervous for any reason she turns to me immediately and asks for hugs and a kiss!!!! We are really bonding now in a way I have never been able to with her.Mia is doing phenomenally well also. We are basically now squarely in the ADHD phase. BUT, Mia also has a new found ability to reason her way out of over-reactive episodes and meltdowns. I can simply say 'you're reacting (as in having a food/environmental microglial/mast cell reaction) Mia', 'don't listen to your brain', and she can most of the time pull herself out of it within a couple of minutes. So she still has the reactions, but her deep attachment to them as the sole reality, the only thing existing, is dwindling. I still want to get her fully well so that we don't have the reactions, but this newfound reason is a great gift. Mia had significant metals detoxing when we started on the KPU protocol, and I think that clearing her body of metals and supporting her hormonal regulation in the protocol has given us this new 'reasoning'. But we still have the overexcited immune response to chase down. Any suggestions are welcome!So for me. This is hard to relate also. Part of why I haven't posted is because it is so hard to relate the significance of our changes- they are more sweeping and significant, yet subtle at the same time. The little paragraphs above about the girls barely touch the surface of what deworming and going on the KPU protocol has done for them. But I'll keep trying. For me, I have had so many ups and downs. I did significant liver flushing while taking Humaworm and this brought intense rounds of anger. The anger was of merit- I had a lot to work through in my marriage and extended family, and with my relationship to this polluted world that made me and my children sick, (and all of our children!), and the polluted health care system that injured my two partially vaccinated children. But it is interesting that the liver cleanse really intensified this. I had to really work to direct the anger and keep it from leaving a barren fire-parched wasteland all around me. The effort was well worth it. I made the most of it and used it to clean house in my life and make changes. So, first came the rounds of intense and for long stretches nearly inexhaustible anger from supporting the liver during parasite cleansing. Next I started the KPU protocol which in large part involves supplementing zinc. Shortly into the zinc supplementation I started another round of bouts with demons- this time hormonal ones. I did not know, but zinc, because it is so essential in hormone pathways, (or the enzyme functions that produce hormones or something specific that I don't entirely remember), is a leading supplement for men's prostate health. So looking at Klinghardrt's protocol concepts, when zinc is missing, you don't have proper enyme functions (you also fix metals from the environment in your body that these enzyme pathways use because zinc is not available), so don't have proper hormone function. I didn't think about this starting in, and just wanted to do it to support the immune system, address the gross deficiency caused by KPU, support deworming (a zincless stomach lining allows parasite infestation), and support natural chelating (as the zinc finds its proper place in the enzyme pathways the body dumps the metals it was holding in its place). - -Let me apologize right now for my over simplification of these complex proceses. There is just too much information to hold onto it all. - - So, to get back to the story, shortly into the KPU I started on these profound- I mean PROFOUND hormonal swings. I could not believe the manifestation and at first did not know what was going on. So, to explain, this will sound silly. But let me try. At ovulation each month, I started with extreme sexual desire. Let me say I am 39 with three kids, significant health issues, and challenges in my marriage. I am tired. To be hit with sexual desire was a less than amusing and wholly shocking experience. It is funny to say, but for the first time in my life I understood what all of those 18 year old boys were talking about when they said 'I am going to die if I don't have sex'. This was just preposterous. But for 3 cycles I walked around like this. I was positively obsessed with the idea of being with another man. It was difficult, let me tell you, to function with my head constantly ringing, 24 hours a day, 'procreate, procreate' . . . ... I thought it was menopause, I thought it was years of pent up desire, I thought lots of things. Never once did I think it was zinc. Until in the last cycle, over the last 30 days, I came out of it completely. Around the same time I found some supporting evidence that the protocol could bring this swing on. So silly. It amazes me how going through 'healing' could wreck my life. Sure, it could have liberated my life, I could have found a new man, yada yada yada, you have no idea how deeply I struggled with this concept. But coming out of it all my husband is JUST FINE. We even have a good relationship now. So, mental illness I have to say again, as I have before, is something that is always on my mind as I walk this path towards wellness.There is more to share on the hormonal balance but I am running out of time and want to get back to the nuts and bolts of one interesting deworming issue. We continue to do stool tests at home with our microscope. The girls seem to be clear of everything and their food is more digested- looking good overall. I have fallen off of their sampling over this full moon and need to dive back in again to see if the roundworm eggs are gone in Mia and Sophie. Ellie is clear. My husband and I are not. So with this full moon, even though we ended Humaworm just a few days ago, I am still having signs of egg shedding and stool samples show significant eggs. These are of microscopic roundworms, Ascaris. The ascaris is particularly implicated by Klinghardt- they proliferate in a zincless intestinal lining and complete part of their life cycle in the lungs. They are generally implicated in Asthma. They are also implicated in seizures in dogs with severe infestations. So of interest, I occasionally wake up with tight lungs. When I breath, it is slightly painful. I have always felt this was something like emphazema or asthma and doctors have advised various invasive tests or medications. So, the last two mornings I have woken up with this pain. Also I have had joint swelling. Knowing what I know now, I see this all coming on exactly when anal itching started and ascaris eggs showed up in my samples. For me, the ascaris egg laying flares directly correlate to symptoms of asthma and joint pain. I am not yet sure how to get rid of the Ascaris. They are the only 'worm' that the general Humaworm protocol has not eliminated. I am sure Klinghardt will provide a path on this when we see him, but if anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I'd love to hear them. I am thinking that they are hard to get because of their life cycling in the lungs. Of interest we see very few actual roundworms in stool tests anymore, only the eggs. So I am thinking of doing the humaworm lung cleanse next. Will see. I wonder if doing some steam inhalation of an herb would help?Well I apologize for my rather campy description of our family update. At each step in our process I intensely learn the science, then make a decision, and by the time we move through that decision into and past action a lot of the detail has become diluted in my mind and I find it easier to just explain what happened on the ground.THANKS THANKS so much to all of you who give your best everyday and take the time to share it with our family. I am humbled in gratitude and give you all of my greatest thanks.OH, lastly, Ellie is still wracked with keratosis pilaris, any and all recommendations for this are welcome. I have read that it is related to a vit a deficiency (because of the measles virus eating up her A? Because of poor fat soluble vitamin absorption?), but just am back at the starting block on this one. Someone posted a good lotion- what was this? I want to of course wholly address the underlying issue, but would like to also bring the surface rash down a little if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 what about diamatous clay? i heard really good stuff bout that and parasites....i started my son on it for short while before all hell broke lose in my life...then i stopped. but im definitly wanting to go back to that in between the humaworm treatment chana To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:28 AMSubject: Hmaworm update, KPU, etc Well I finally have moved heaven and earth and have a few minutes on the computer. Just s few! I have been scanning posts again for about a week now as best I can and always just wish I had the time to really invest in all of the fantastic information flying around. For now I'll continue to just grab what I can as it passes by and see how it helps us. We start in January with Klinghardt, so I expect our world will be full of gifts and blessings then! We have started with the basics of his KPU protocol on our own, using what he has published online (thanks for the links!!). I wanted to pass on quickly an update on our parasite issues. We've done a 2nd round of Humaworm. 3 weeks in, I started again with the 'all is right and good' wonderful feeling of calm, strength, energy, focus. It is just a truly wonderful way to live and I hope to eventually get there full time with other supporting therapies, once I figure out exactly what is behind it. The girls are doing really well also. Our youngest daughter, who started with just a few particular parts of regression (crying all the time, loss of fine and gross motor skills, poor sleep, bowel problems), and whose stool samples (viewed at home on the microscope) revealed a sea of parasites, and who passed a 2.5 inch tapeworm on our first humaworm round, had a real breakthrough with this 2nd round and put on over 5 pounds and had a growth spurt!! She has always been so tiny (born under 6 pounds), and to see her with a Buddha belly is a joy. She also has more personality, more assertiveness.Mia, Ellie, and I have parasite updates but also are doing really well with the KPU protocol. So I'll touch on these both. Poor Ellie was born right when Mia started into her more severe regression. As Ellie was coming into consciousness in the world her mom and dad were dealing with extreme screaming, aggressive fits, meltdowns, hyper anxiety, acute irrational fears, and 5-15 night terrors a night. For years I would go to Mia's bed at bedtime, laying with her to help her go to sleep. My husband was not really getting it all, and didn't give extra comfort to Ellie, so she lay in bed each night, all alone, seeing us going over to the screaming, mean sister's bed. Needless to say, she developed some emotional issues over this that we've been working hard to address. There was a real wall, though- a binding up of her ability to access and address obvious emotions. She was just often a sad, dark cloud. Well since starting the KPU protocol, she has unlocked this access and we have been able to start working through her feelings in little bits each day! I wish I could somehow relate the changes. The simplest thing to say is that all of the things I've been trying to do to reach out to her are finally working and are becoming calming and supporting to her. As one example, for so long she wouldn't let us give her kisses, or even hugs at certain times (yes, could be some sensory issues, but she loves to pile on 5 different shirts and will even wear itchy tutus and dress up clothes, so there does not seem to be any tactile sensitivity going on). Starting the KPU protocol, she finally one night asked for a good night kiss. Now, would you believe, when she is nervous for any reason she turns to me immediately and asks for hugs and a kiss!!!! We are really bonding now in a way I have never been able to with her.Mia is doing phenomenally well also. We are basically now squarely in the ADHD phase. BUT, Mia also has a new found ability to reason her way out of over-reactive episodes and meltdowns. I can simply say 'you're reacting (as in having a food/environmental microglial/mast cell reaction) Mia', 'don't listen to your brain', and she can most of the time pull herself out of it within a couple of minutes. So she still has the reactions, but her deep attachment to them as the sole reality, the only thing existing, is dwindling. I still want to get her fully well so that we don't have the reactions, but this newfound reason is a great gift. Mia had significant metals detoxing when we started on the KPU protocol, and I think that clearing her body of metals and supporting her hormonal regulation in the protocol has given us this new 'reasoning'. But we still have the overexcited immune response to chase down. Any suggestions are welcome!So for me. This is hard to relate also. Part of why I haven't posted is because it is so hard to relate the significance of our changes- they are more sweeping and significant, yet subtle at the same time. The little paragraphs above about the girls barely touch the surface of what deworming and going on the KPU protocol has done for them. But I'll keep trying. For me, I have had so many ups and downs. I did significant liver flushing while taking Humaworm and this brought intense rounds of anger. The anger was of merit- I had a lot to work through in my marriage and extended family, and with my relationship to this polluted world that made me and my children sick, (and all of our children!), and the polluted health care system that injured my two partially vaccinated children. But it is interesting that the liver cleanse really intensified this. I had to really work to direct the anger and keep it from leaving a barren fire-parched wasteland all around me. The effort was well worth it. I made the most of it and used it to clean house in my life and make changes. So, first came the rounds of intense and for long stretches nearly inexhaustible anger from supporting the liver during parasite cleansing. Next I started the KPU protocol which in large part involves supplementing zinc. Shortly into the zinc supplementation I started another round of bouts with demons- this time hormonal ones. I did not know, but zinc, because it is so essential in hormone pathways, (or the enzyme functions that produce hormones or something specific that I don't entirely remember), is a leading supplement for men's prostate health. So looking at Klinghardrt's protocol concepts, when zinc is missing, you don't have proper enyme functions (you also fix metals from the environment in your body that these enzyme pathways use because zinc is not available), so don't have proper hormone function. I didn't think about this starting in, and just wanted to do it to support the immune system, address the gross deficiency caused by KPU, support deworming (a zincless stomach lining allows parasite infestation), and support natural chelating (as the zinc finds its proper place in the enzyme pathways the body dumps the metals it was holding in its place). - -Let me apologize right now for my over simplification of these complex proceses. There is just too much information to hold onto it all. - - So, to get back to the story, shortly into the KPU I started on these profound- I mean PROFOUND hormonal swings. I could not believe the manifestation and at first did not know what was going on. So, to explain, this will sound silly. But let me try. At ovulation each month, I started with extreme sexual desire. Let me say I am 39 with three kids, significant health issues, and challenges in my marriage. I am tired. To be hit with sexual desire was a less than amusing and wholly shocking experience. It is funny to say, but for the first time in my life I understood what all of those 18 year old boys were talking about when they said 'I am going to die if I don't have sex'. This was just preposterous. But for 3 cycles I walked around like this. I was positively obsessed with the idea of being with another man. It was difficult, let me tell you, to function with my head constantly ringing, 24 hours a day, 'procreate, procreate' . . . ... I thought it was menopause, I thought it was years of pent up desire, I thought lots of things. Never once did I think it was zinc. Until in the last cycle, over the last 30 days, I came out of it completely. Around the same time I found some supporting evidence that the protocol could bring this swing on. So silly. It amazes me how going through 'healing' could wreck my life. Sure, it could have liberated my life, I could have found a new man, yada yada yada, you have no idea how deeply I struggled with this concept. But coming out of it all my husband is JUST FINE. We even have a good relationship now. So, mental illness I have to say again, as I have before, is something that is always on my mind as I walk this path towards wellness.There is more to share on the hormonal balance but I am running out of time and want to get back to the nuts and bolts of one interesting deworming issue. We continue to do stool tests at home with our microscope. The girls seem to be clear of everything and their food is more digested- looking good overall. I have fallen off of their sampling over this full moon and need to dive back in again to see if the roundworm eggs are gone in Mia and Sophie. Ellie is clear. My husband and I are not. So with this full moon, even though we ended Humaworm just a few days ago, I am still having signs of egg shedding and stool samples show significant eggs. These are of microscopic roundworms, Ascaris. The ascaris is particularly implicated by Klinghardt- they proliferate in a zincless intestinal lining and complete part of their life cycle in the lungs. They are generally implicated in Asthma. They are also implicated in seizures in dogs with severe infestations. So of interest, I occasionally wake up with tight lungs. When I breath, it is slightly painful. I have always felt this was something like emphazema or asthma and doctors have advised various invasive tests or medications. So, the last two mornings I have woken up with this pain. Also I have had joint swelling. Knowing what I know now, I see this all coming on exactly when anal itching started and ascaris eggs showed up in my samples. For me, the ascaris egg laying flares directly correlate to symptoms of asthma and joint pain. I am not yet sure how to get rid of the Ascaris. They are the only 'worm' that the general Humaworm protocol has not eliminated. I am sure Klinghardt will provide a path on this when we see him, but if anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I'd love to hear them. I am thinking that they are hard to get because of their life cycling in the lungs. Of interest we see very few actual roundworms in stool tests anymore, only the eggs. So I am thinking of doing the humaworm lung cleanse next. Will see. I wonder if doing some steam inhalation of an herb would help?Well I apologize for my rather campy description of our family update. At each step in our process I intensely learn the science, then make a decision, and by the time we move through that decision into and past action a lot of the detail has become diluted in my mind and I find it easier to just explain what happened on the ground.THANKS THANKS so much to all of you who give your best everyday and take the time to share it with our family. I am humbled in gratitude and give you all of my greatest thanks.OH, lastly, Ellie is still wracked with keratosis pilaris, any and all recommendations for this are welcome. I have read that it is related to a vit a deficiency (because of the measles virus eating up her A? Because of poor fat soluble vitamin absorption?), but just am back at the starting block on this one. Someone posted a good lotion- what was this? I want to of course wholly address the underlying issue, but would like to also bring the surface rash down a little if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 , awesome post! Thank you for your honesty and frank approach.It couldn't hurt to try vitamin A for the little one's keratosis. I think Channa mentioned diatenatious earth (food grade!) for parasites.I've read a little bit about it lately, and some people swear by it to treat parasites - so it's something to research (super affordable). When I first started supplementing zinc with my little guy, it made a HUGE difference. Much more energy, better mood, better sleep. Better bladder function. (He would constantly pee just a little bit at a time. Now it's much less frequent with better volume). But lately he's been super cranky - disagreeable, spiteful, difficult - like a cranky old man. I'm beginning to wonder if I should lay off the zinc until I can have him tested or if we should stay the course for a while longer.-Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 We have usedfood grade DE. Good stuff. Hard to swallow though. It will kill parasites in the digestive tract. > > > > , awesome post!  Thank you for your honesty and frank approach. > > It couldn't hurt to try vitamin A for the little one's keratosis.  > > I think Channa mentioned diatenatious earth (food grade!) for parasites. > I've read a little bit about it lately, and some people swear by it to treat parasites - so it's something to research (super affordable). > > When I first started supplementing zinc with my little guy, it made a HUGE difference.  Much more energy, better mood, better sleep.  Better bladder function. (He would constantly pee just a little bit at a time. Now it's much less frequent with better volume).  But lately he's been super cranky - disagreeable, spiteful, difficult - like a cranky old man. I'm beginning to wonder if I should lay off the zinc until I can have him tested or if we should stay the course for a while longer. > > -Tammy > > > > ________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 i forgot to ask ..melissa can you tell me what you used for liver flushing? channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:28 AMSubject: Hmaworm update, KPU, etc Well I finally have moved heaven and earth and have a few minutes on the computer. Just s few! I have been scanning posts again for about a week now as best I can and always just wish I had the time to really invest in all of the fantastic information flying around. For now I'll continue to just grab what I can as it passes by and see how it helps us. We start in January with Klinghardt, so I expect our world will be full of gifts and blessings then! We have started with the basics of his KPU protocol on our own, using what he has published online (thanks for the links!!). I wanted to pass on quickly an update on our parasite issues. We've done a 2nd round of Humaworm. 3 weeks in, I started again with the 'all is right and good' wonderful feeling of calm, strength, energy, focus. It is just a truly wonderful way to live and I hope to eventually get there full time with other supporting therapies, once I figure out exactly what is behind it. The girls are doing really well also. Our youngest daughter, who started with just a few particular parts of regression (crying all the time, loss of fine and gross motor skills, poor sleep, bowel problems), and whose stool samples (viewed at home on the microscope) revealed a sea of parasites, and who passed a 2.5 inch tapeworm on our first humaworm round, had a real breakthrough with this 2nd round and put on over 5 pounds and had a growth spurt!! She has always been so tiny (born under 6 pounds), and to see her with a Buddha belly is a joy. She also has more personality, more assertiveness.Mia, Ellie, and I have parasite updates but also are doing really well with the KPU protocol. So I'll touch on these both. Poor Ellie was born right when Mia started into her more severe regression. As Ellie was coming into consciousness in the world her mom and dad were dealing with extreme screaming, aggressive fits, meltdowns, hyper anxiety, acute irrational fears, and 5-15 night terrors a night. For years I would go to Mia's bed at bedtime, laying with her to help her go to sleep. My husband was not really getting it all, and didn't give extra comfort to Ellie, so she lay in bed each night, all alone, seeing us going over to the screaming, mean sister's bed. Needless to say, she developed some emotional issues over this that we've been working hard to address. There was a real wall, though- a binding up of her ability to access and address obvious emotions. She was just often a sad, dark cloud. Well since starting the KPU protocol, she has unlocked this access and we have been able to start working through her feelings in little bits each day! I wish I could somehow relate the changes. The simplest thing to say is that all of the things I've been trying to do to reach out to her are finally working and are becoming calming and supporting to her. As one example, for so long she wouldn't let us give her kisses, or even hugs at certain times (yes, could be some sensory issues, but she loves to pile on 5 different shirts and will even wear itchy tutus and dress up clothes, so there does not seem to be any tactile sensitivity going on). Starting the KPU protocol, she finally one night asked for a good night kiss. Now, would you believe, when she is nervous for any reason she turns to me immediately and asks for hugs and a kiss!!!! We are really bonding now in a way I have never been able to with her.Mia is doing phenomenally well also. We are basically now squarely in the ADHD phase. BUT, Mia also has a new found ability to reason her way out of over-reactive episodes and meltdowns. I can simply say 'you're reacting (as in having a food/environmental microglial/mast cell reaction) Mia', 'don't listen to your brain', and she can most of the time pull herself out of it within a couple of minutes. So she still has the reactions, but her deep attachment to them as the sole reality, the only thing existing, is dwindling. I still want to get her fully well so that we don't have the reactions, but this newfound reason is a great gift. Mia had significant metals detoxing when we started on the KPU protocol, and I think that clearing her body of metals and supporting her hormonal regulation in the protocol has given us this new 'reasoning'. But we still have the overexcited immune response to chase down. Any suggestions are welcome!So for me. This is hard to relate also. Part of why I haven't posted is because it is so hard to relate the significance of our changes- they are more sweeping and significant, yet subtle at the same time. The little paragraphs above about the girls barely touch the surface of what deworming and going on the KPU protocol has done for them. But I'll keep trying. For me, I have had so many ups and downs. I did significant liver flushing while taking Humaworm and this brought intense rounds of anger. The anger was of merit- I had a lot to work through in my marriage and extended family, and with my relationship to this polluted world that made me and my children sick, (and all of our children!), and the polluted health care system that injured my two partially vaccinated children. But it is interesting that the liver cleanse really intensified this. I had to really work to direct the anger and keep it from leaving a barren fire-parched wasteland all around me. The effort was well worth it. I made the most of it and used it to clean house in my life and make changes. So, first came the rounds of intense and for long stretches nearly inexhaustible anger from supporting the liver during parasite cleansing. Next I started the KPU protocol which in large part involves supplementing zinc. Shortly into the zinc supplementation I started another round of bouts with demons- this time hormonal ones. I did not know, but zinc, because it is so essential in hormone pathways, (or the enzyme functions that produce hormones or something specific that I don't entirely remember), is a leading supplement for men's prostate health. So looking at Klinghardrt's protocol concepts, when zinc is missing, you don't have proper enyme functions (you also fix metals from the environment in your body that these enzyme pathways use because zinc is not available), so don't have proper hormone function. I didn't think about this starting in, and just wanted to do it to support the immune system, address the gross deficiency caused by KPU, support deworming (a zincless stomach lining allows parasite infestation), and support natural chelating (as the zinc finds its proper place in the enzyme pathways the body dumps the metals it was holding in its place). - -Let me apologize right now for my over simplification of these complex proceses. There is just too much information to hold onto it all. - - So, to get back to the story, shortly into the KPU I started on these profound- I mean PROFOUND hormonal swings. I could not believe the manifestation and at first did not know what was going on. So, to explain, this will sound silly. But let me try. At ovulation each month, I started with extreme sexual desire. Let me say I am 39 with three kids, significant health issues, and challenges in my marriage. I am tired. To be hit with sexual desire was a less than amusing and wholly shocking experience. It is funny to say, but for the first time in my life I understood what all of those 18 year old boys were talking about when they said 'I am going to die if I don't have sex'. This was just preposterous. But for 3 cycles I walked around like this. I was positively obsessed with the idea of being with another man. It was difficult, let me tell you, to function with my head constantly ringing, 24 hours a day, 'procreate, procreate' . . . ... I thought it was menopause, I thought it was years of pent up desire, I thought lots of things. Never once did I think it was zinc. Until in the last cycle, over the last 30 days, I came out of it completely. Around the same time I found some supporting evidence that the protocol could bring this swing on. So silly. It amazes me how going through 'healing' could wreck my life. Sure, it could have liberated my life, I could have found a new man, yada yada yada, you have no idea how deeply I struggled with this concept. But coming out of it all my husband is JUST FINE. We even have a good relationship now. So, mental illness I have to say again, as I have before, is something that is always on my mind as I walk this path towards wellness.There is more to share on the hormonal balance but I am running out of time and want to get back to the nuts and bolts of one interesting deworming issue. We continue to do stool tests at home with our microscope. The girls seem to be clear of everything and their food is more digested- looking good overall. I have fallen off of their sampling over this full moon and need to dive back in again to see if the roundworm eggs are gone in Mia and Sophie. Ellie is clear. My husband and I are not. So with this full moon, even though we ended Humaworm just a few days ago, I am still having signs of egg shedding and stool samples show significant eggs. These are of microscopic roundworms, Ascaris. The ascaris is particularly implicated by Klinghardt- they proliferate in a zincless intestinal lining and complete part of their life cycle in the lungs. They are generally implicated in Asthma. They are also implicated in seizures in dogs with severe infestations. So of interest, I occasionally wake up with tight lungs. When I breath, it is slightly painful. I have always felt this was something like emphazema or asthma and doctors have advised various invasive tests or medications. So, the last two mornings I have woken up with this pain. Also I have had joint swelling. Knowing what I know now, I see this all coming on exactly when anal itching started and ascaris eggs showed up in my samples. For me, the ascaris egg laying flares directly correlate to symptoms of asthma and joint pain. I am not yet sure how to get rid of the Ascaris. They are the only 'worm' that the general Humaworm protocol has not eliminated. I am sure Klinghardt will provide a path on this when we see him, but if anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I'd love to hear them. I am thinking that they are hard to get because of their life cycling in the lungs. Of interest we see very few actual roundworms in stool tests anymore, only the eggs. So I am thinking of doing the humaworm lung cleanse next. Will see. I wonder if doing some steam inhalation of an herb would help?Well I apologize for my rather campy description of our family update. At each step in our process I intensely learn the science, then make a decision, and by the time we move through that decision into and past action a lot of the detail has become diluted in my mind and I find it easier to just explain what happened on the ground.THANKS THANKS so much to all of you who give your best everyday and take the time to share it with our family. I am humbled in gratitude and give you all of my greatest thanks.OH, lastly, Ellie is still wracked with keratosis pilaris, any and all recommendations for this are welcome. I have read that it is related to a vit a deficiency (because of the measles virus eating up her A? Because of poor fat soluble vitamin absorption?), but just am back at the starting block on this one. Someone posted a good lotion- what was this? I want to of course wholly address the underlying issue, but would like to also bring the surface rash down a little if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Hi Channa! We just used Gaia milk thistle, 2 tabs, 2x a day. But are starting a Humaworm liver flush soon. We have not yet done a fasting/juicing flush, which I've heard so much about. - This and one for Galbladder I hope to head in the direction of for the spring. One can only handle so much liver flush at once (or at least I am taking a break for a while!), what with all of the anger and all . > > i forgot to ask ..melissa can you tell me what you used for liver flushing? > channa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 We have a bag of this in the pantry! I bought it last month, but wanted to finish Humaworm. Also, I worry a little about leaky gut with it? Would it make it into vessels? I wish I could get over this hurdle and try it. It is so affordable!! A good friend's very good doctor recommended it and she is very, very ill, so it should be safe. Thanks for the positive review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 i tried diamatous a long while back when my son was in his leaky gut prime...and it did not go over well for us...it made his symptoms worse i was scared to try again...but with his gut healed for the most part ie. no symptoms of leaky gut...his stool formed all digested....no tummy pain at night...he did great on diamatous after that...so i would proceed with caution in anyone who has leaky gut.. channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:04 PMSubject: Re: Hmaworm update, KPU, etc We have a bag of this in the pantry! I bought it last month, but wanted to finish Humaworm. Also, I worry a little about leaky gut with it? Would it make it into vessels? I wish I could get over this hurdle and try it. It is so affordable!! A good friend's very good doctor recommended it and she is very, very ill, so it should be safe. Thanks for the positive review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I have not seen much of a change. She has been on LDN for a year and GF low salicylate, sugar free, casein free, and low oxalate for 1-3 years (depending on which aspect of this limited diet). We have done parasite treatment and glutamine powder and daily coconut kefir to restore intestinal lining. We also did a long round of CST and NAET. I say all of this because as we healed her gut lining, and avoided common allergens and specific allergens, then treated with detoxing, deworming, and NAET- resetting the immune system, her sensitivity went down- we were able to eat even high oxalate foods and some of her previous allergens. All that being said, we are back to some increased sensitivity. Nothing like before, with the absence seizures and screaming meltdowns, bladder problems, sensory seeking, etc. In fact I laugh that I am frustrated at times at her reactivity but realize that I've given her in one day a Blueberry pie with tapioca and a manufactured GFCF crust, at least 3 things that would have been her end a year ago. But she is not in her totally non-reactive state now either, which we have found on and off over the last few months. I am thinking that we got her to the least reactive state when we were doing NAET. Also, her reactivity has historically increased significantly when she is shedding Ascaris eggs. So her immune system is something I only see through blurry glasses at the moment in relation to the KPU protocol. I do know that her resistance to bacterial infection and viruses is way up- she went through a nasty flu recently with flying colors, instead of having 3 weeks to 3 months of regression. I don't know if this is the LDN, the lack of parasites, the zinc, having less metals. . .. If any pieces of the puzzle are revealed when we go see Klinghardt, I'll update. > > Did the KPU protocal flair MIA's overexcited immune response? I figured > that someone with that issue would not be able to do the KPU > protocal? Thanks,Tammy F. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 Would that be Boluki?? Tammy F.  i have heard of some products with earth worm in it for kicking the immune system back into T1 mode... From: Tammy F. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Hmaworm update, KPU, etc  Did the KPU protocal flair MIA's overexcited immune response? I figured that someone with that issue would not be able to do the KPU protocal?       Thanks,Tammy F.  Well I finally have moved heaven and earth and have a few minutes on the computer. Just s few! I have been scanning posts again for about a week now as best I can and always just wish I had the time to really invest in all of the fantastic information flying around. For now I'll continue to just grab what I can as it passes by and see how it helps us. We start in January with Klinghardt, so I expect our world will be full of gifts and blessings then! We have started with the basics of his KPU protocol on our own, using what he has published online (thanks for the links!!). I wanted to pass on quickly an update on our parasite issues. We've done a 2nd round of Humaworm. 3 weeks in, I started again with the 'all is right and good' wonderful feeling of calm, strength, energy, focus. It is just a truly wonderful way to live and I hope to eventually get there full time with other supporting therapies, once I figure out exactly what is behind it. The girls are doing really well also. Our youngest daughter, who started with just a few particular parts of regression (crying all the time, loss of fine and gross motor skills, poor sleep, bowel problems), and whose stool samples (viewed at home on the microscope) revealed a sea of parasites, and who passed a 2.5 inch tapeworm on our first humaworm round, had a real breakthrough with this 2nd round and put on over 5 pounds and had a growth spurt!! She has always been so tiny (born under 6 pounds), and to see her with a Buddha belly is a joy. She also has more personality, more assertiveness. Mia, Ellie, and I have parasite updates but also are doing really well with the KPU protocol. So I'll touch on these both. Poor Ellie was born right when Mia started into her more severe regression. As Ellie was coming into consciousness in the world her mom and dad were dealing with extreme screaming, aggressive fits, meltdowns, hyper anxiety, acute irrational fears, and 5-15 night terrors a night. For years I would go to Mia's bed at bedtime, laying with her to help her go to sleep. My husband was not really getting it all, and didn't give extra comfort to Ellie, so she lay in bed each night, all alone, seeing us going over to the screaming, mean sister's bed. Needless to say, she developed some emotional issues over this that we've been working hard to address. There was a real wall, though- a binding up of her ability to access and address obvious emotions. She was just often a sad, dark cloud. Well since starting the KPU protocol, she has unlocked this access and we have been able to start working through her feelings in little bits each day! I wish I could somehow relate the changes. The simplest thing to say is that all of the things I've been trying to do to reach out to her are finally working and are becoming calming and supporting to her. As one example, for so long she wouldn't let us give her kisses, or even hugs at certain times (yes, could be some sensory issues, but she loves to pile on 5 different shirts and will even wear itchy tutus and dress up clothes, so there does not seem to be any tactile sensitivity going on). Starting the KPU protocol, she finally one night asked for a good night kiss. Now, would you believe, when she is nervous for any reason she turns to me immediately and asks for hugs and a kiss!!!! We are really bonding now in a way I have never been able to with her. Mia is doing phenomenally well also. We are basically now squarely in the ADHD phase. BUT, Mia also has a new found ability to reason her way out of over-reactive episodes and meltdowns. I can simply say 'you're reacting (as in having a food/environmental microglial/mast cell reaction) Mia', 'don't listen to your brain', and she can most of the time pull herself out of it within a couple of minutes. So she still has the reactions, but her deep attachment to them as the sole reality, the only thing existing, is dwindling. I still want to get her fully well so that we don't have the reactions, but this newfound reason is a great gift. Mia had significant metals detoxing when we started on the KPU protocol, and I think that clearing her body of metals and supporting her hormonal regulation in the protocol has given us this new 'reasoning'. But we still have the overexcited immune response to chase down. Any suggestions are welcome! So for me. This is hard to relate also. Part of why I haven't posted is because it is so hard to relate the significance of our changes- they are more sweeping and significant, yet subtle at the same time. The little paragraphs above about the girls barely touch the surface of what deworming and going on the KPU protocol has done for them. But I'll keep trying. For me, I have had so many ups and downs. I did significant liver flushing while taking Humaworm and this brought intense rounds of anger. The anger was of merit- I had a lot to work through in my marriage and extended family, and with my relationship to this polluted world that made me and my children sick, (and all of our children!), and the polluted health care system that injured my two partially vaccinated children. But it is interesting that the liver cleanse really intensified this. I had to really work to direct the anger and keep it from leaving a barren fire-parched wasteland all around me. The effort was well worth it. I made the most of it and used it to clean house in my life and make changes. So, first came the rounds of intense and for long stretches nearly inexhaustible anger from supporting the liver during parasite cleansing. Next I started the KPU protocol which in large part involves supplementing zinc. Shortly into the zinc supplementation I started another round of bouts with demons- this time hormonal ones. I did not know, but zinc, because it is so essential in hormone pathways, (or the enzyme functions that produce hormones or something specific that I don't entirely remember), is a leading supplement for men's prostate health. So looking at Klinghardrt's protocol concepts, when zinc is missing, you don't have proper enyme functions (you also fix metals from the environment in your body that these enzyme pathways use because zinc is not available), so don't have proper hormone function. I didn't think about this starting in, and just wanted to do it to support the immune system, address the gross deficiency caused by KPU, support deworming (a zincless stomach lining allows parasite infestation), and support natural chelating (as the zinc finds its proper place in the enzyme pathways the body dumps the metals it was holding in its place). - -Let me apologize right now for my over simplification of these complex proceses. There is just too much information to hold onto it all. - - So, to get back to the story, shortly into the KPU I started on these profound- I mean PROFOUND hormonal swings. I could not believe the manifestation and at first did not know what was going on. So, to explain, this will sound silly. But let me try. At ovulation each month, I started with extreme sexual desire. Let me say I am 39 with three kids, significant health issues, and challenges in my marriage. I am tired. To be hit with sexual desire was a less than amusing and wholly shocking experience. It is funny to say, but for the first time in my life I understood what all of those 18 year old boys were talking about when they said 'I am going to die if I don't have sex'. This was just preposterous. But for 3 cycles I walked around like this. I was positively obsessed with the idea of being with another man. It was difficult, let me tell you, to function with my head constantly ringing, 24 hours a day, 'procreate, procreate' . . .. .. I thought it was menopause, I thought it was years of pent up desire, I thought lots of things. Never once did I think it was zinc. Until in the last cycle, over the last 30 days, I came out of it completely. Around the same time I found some supporting evidence that the protocol could bring this swing on. So silly. It amazes me how going through 'healing' could wreck my life. Sure, it could have liberated my life, I could have found a new man, yada yada yada, you have no idea how deeply I struggled with this concept. But coming out of it all my husband is JUST FINE. We even have a good relationship now. So, mental illness I have to say again, as I have before, is something that is always on my mind as I walk this path towards wellness. There is more to share on the hormonal balance but I am running out of time and want to get back to the nuts and bolts of one interesting deworming issue. We continue to do stool tests at home with our microscope. The girls seem to be clear of everything and their food is more digested- looking good overall. I have fallen off of their sampling over this full moon and need to dive back in again to see if the roundworm eggs are gone in Mia and Sophie. Ellie is clear. My husband and I are not. So with this full moon, even though we ended Humaworm just a few days ago, I am still having signs of egg shedding and stool samples show significant eggs. These are of microscopic roundworms, Ascaris. The ascaris is particularly implicated by Klinghardt- they proliferate in a zincless intestinal lining and complete part of their life cycle in the lungs. They are generally implicated in Asthma. They are also implicated in seizures in dogs with severe infestations. So of interest, I occasionally wake up with tight lungs. When I breath, it is slightly painful. I have always felt this was something like emphazema or asthma and doctors have advised various invasive tests or medications. So, the last two mornings I have woken up with this pain. Also I have had joint swelling. Knowing what I know now, I see this all coming on exactly when anal itching started and ascaris eggs showed up in my samples. For me, the ascaris egg laying flares directly correlate to symptoms of asthma and joint pain. I am not yet sure how to get rid of the Ascaris. They are the only 'worm' that the general Humaworm protocol has not eliminated. I am sure Klinghardt will provide a path on this when we see him, but if anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I'd love to hear them. I am thinking that they are hard to get because of their life cycling in the lungs. Of interest we see very few actual roundworms in stool tests anymore, only the eggs. So I am thinking of doing the humaworm lung cleanse next. Will see. I wonder if doing some steam inhalation of an herb would help? Well I apologize for my rather campy description of our family update. At each step in our process I intensely learn the science, then make a decision, and by the time we move through that decision into and past action a lot of the detail has become diluted in my mind and I find it easier to just explain what happened on the ground. THANKS THANKS so much to all of you who give your best everyday and take the time to share it with our family. I am humbled in gratitude and give you all of my greatest thanks. OH, lastly, Ellie is still wracked with keratosis pilaris, any and all recommendations for this are welcome. I have read that it is related to a vit a deficiency (because of the measles virus eating up her A? Because of poor fat soluble vitamin absorption?), but just am back at the starting block on this one. Someone posted a good lotion- what was this? I want to of course wholly address the underlying issue, but would like to also bring the surface rash down a little if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 i heard of a product by nutricology called earth dragon....i have not used it yet...also spose kick immune system into T1 To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:20 PMSubject: Re: Hmaworm update, KPU, etc Would that be Boluki?? Tammy F. i have heard of some products with earth worm in it for kicking the immune system back into T1 mode... To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:21 AMSubject: Re: Hmaworm update, KPU, etc Did the KPU protocal flair MIA's overexcited immune response? I figured that someone with that issue would not be able to do the KPU protocal? Thanks,Tammy F. Well I finally have moved heaven and earth and have a few minutes on the computer. Just s few! I have been scanning posts again for about a week now as best I can and always just wish I had the time to really invest in all of the fantastic information flying around. For now I'll continue to just grab what I can as it passes by and see how it helps us. We start in January with Klinghardt, so I expect our world will be full of gifts and blessings then! We have started with the basics of his KPU protocol on our own, using what he has published online (thanks for the links!!). I wanted to pass on quickly an update on our parasite issues. We've done a 2nd round of Humaworm. 3 weeks in, I started again with the 'all is right and good' wonderful feeling of calm, strength, energy, focus. It is just a truly wonderful way to live and I hope to eventually get there full time with other supporting therapies, once I figure out exactly what is behind it. The girls are doing really well also. Our youngest daughter, who started with just a few particular parts of regression (crying all the time, loss of fine and gross motor skills, poor sleep, bowel problems), and whose stool samples (viewed at home on the microscope) revealed a sea of parasites, and who passed a 2.5 inch tapeworm on our first humaworm round, had a real breakthrough with this 2nd round and put on over 5 pounds and had a growth spurt!! She has always been so tiny (born under 6 pounds), and to see her with a Buddha belly is a joy. She also has more personality, more assertiveness.Mia, Ellie, and I have parasite updates but also are doing really well with the KPU protocol. So I'll touch on these both. Poor Ellie was born right when Mia started into her more severe regression. As Ellie was coming into consciousness in the world her mom and dad were dealing with extreme screaming, aggressive fits, meltdowns, hyper anxiety, acute irrational fears, and 5-15 night terrors a night. For years I would go to Mia's bed at bedtime, laying with her to help her go to sleep. My husband was not really getting it all, and didn't give extra comfort to Ellie, so she lay in bed each night, all alone, seeing us going over to the screaming, mean sister's bed. Needless to say, she developed some emotional issues over this that we've been working hard to address. There was a real wall, though- a binding up of her ability to access and address obvious emotions. She was just often a sad, dark cloud. Well since starting the KPU protocol, she has unlocked this access and we have been able to start working through her feelings in little bits each day! I wish I could somehow relate the changes. The simplest thing to say is that all of the things I've been trying to do to reach out to her are finally working and are becoming calming and supporting to her. As one example, for so long she wouldn't let us give her kisses, or even hugs at certain times (yes, could be some sensory issues, but she loves to pile on 5 different shirts and will even wear itchy tutus and dress up clothes, so there does not seem to be any tactile sensitivity going on). Starting the KPU protocol, she finally one night asked for a good night kiss. Now, would you believe, when she is nervous for any reason she turns to me immediately and asks for hugs and a kiss!!!! We are really bonding now in a way I have never been able to with her.Mia is doing phenomenally well also. We are basically now squarely in the ADHD phase. BUT, Mia also has a new found ability to reason her way out of over-reactive episodes and meltdowns. I can simply say 'you're reacting (as in having a food/environmental microglial/mast cell reaction) Mia', 'don't listen to your brain', and she can most of the time pull herself out of it within a couple of minutes. So she still has the reactions, but her deep attachment to them as the sole reality, the only thing existing, is dwindling. I still want to get her fully well so that we don't have the reactions, but this newfound reason is a great gift. Mia had significant metals detoxing when we started on the KPU protocol, and I think that clearing her body of metals and supporting her hormonal regulation in the protocol has given us this new 'reasoning'. But we still have the overexcited immune response to chase down. Any suggestions are welcome!So for me. This is hard to relate also. Part of why I haven't posted is because it is so hard to relate the significance of our changes- they are more sweeping and significant, yet subtle at the same time. The little paragraphs above about the girls barely touch the surface of what deworming and going on the KPU protocol has done for them. But I'll keep trying. For me, I have had so many ups and downs. I did significant liver flushing while taking Humaworm and this brought intense rounds of anger. The anger was of merit- I had a lot to work through in my marriage and extended family, and with my relationship to this polluted world that made me and my children sick, (and all of our children!), and the polluted health care system that injured my two partially vaccinated children. But it is interesting that the liver cleanse really intensified this. I had to really work to direct the anger and keep it from leaving a barren fire-parched wasteland all around me. The effort was well worth it. I made the most of it and used it to clean house in my life and make changes. So, first came the rounds of intense and for long stretches nearly inexhaustible anger from supporting the liver during parasite cleansing. Next I started the KPU protocol which in large part involves supplementing zinc. Shortly into the zinc supplementation I started another round of bouts with demons- this time hormonal ones. I did not know, but zinc, because it is so essential in hormone pathways, (or the enzyme functions that produce hormones or something specific that I don't entirely remember), is a leading supplement for men's prostate health. So looking at Klinghardrt's protocol concepts, when zinc is missing, you don't have proper enyme functions (you also fix metals from the environment in your body that these enzyme pathways use because zinc is not available), so don't have proper hormone function. I didn't think about this starting in, and just wanted to do it to support the immune system, address the gross deficiency caused by KPU, support deworming (a zincless stomach lining allows parasite infestation), and support natural chelating (as the zinc finds its proper place in the enzyme pathways the body dumps the metals it was holding in its place). - -Let me apologize right now for my over simplification of these complex proceses. There is just too much information to hold onto it all. - - So, to get back to the story, shortly into the KPU I started on these profound- I mean PROFOUND hormonal swings. I could not believe the manifestation and at first did not know what was going on. So, to explain, this will sound silly. But let me try. At ovulation each month, I started with extreme sexual desire. Let me say I am 39 with three kids, significant health issues, and challenges in my marriage. I am tired. To be hit with sexual desire was a less than amusing and wholly shocking experience. It is funny to say, but for the first time in my life I understood what all of those 18 year old boys were talking about when they said 'I am going to die if I don't have sex'. This was just preposterous. But for 3 cycles I walked around like this. I was positively obsessed with the idea of being with another man. It was difficult, let me tell you, to function with my head constantly ringing, 24 hours a day, 'procreate, procreate' . . . ... I thought it was menopause, I thought it was years of pent up desire, I thought lots of things. Never once did I think it was zinc. Until in the last cycle, over the last 30 days, I came out of it completely. Around the same time I found some supporting evidence that the protocol could bring this swing on. So silly. It amazes me how going through 'healing' could wreck my life. Sure, it could have liberated my life, I could have found a new man, yada yada yada, you have no idea how deeply I struggled with this concept. But coming out of it all my husband is JUST FINE. We even have a good relationship now. So, mental illness I have to say again, as I have before, is something that is always on my mind as I walk this path towards wellness.There is more to share on the hormonal balance but I am running out of time and want to get back to the nuts and bolts of one interesting deworming issue. We continue to do stool tests at home with our microscope. The girls seem to be clear of everything and their food is more digested- looking good overall. I have fallen off of their sampling over this full moon and need to dive back in again to see if the roundworm eggs are gone in Mia and Sophie. Ellie is clear. My husband and I are not. So with this full moon, even though we ended Humaworm just a few days ago, I am still having signs of egg shedding and stool samples show significant eggs. These are of microscopic roundworms, Ascaris. The ascaris is particularly implicated by Klinghardt- they proliferate in a zincless intestinal lining and complete part of their life cycle in the lungs. They are generally implicated in Asthma. They are also implicated in seizures in dogs with severe infestations. So of interest, I occasionally wake up with tight lungs. When I breath, it is slightly painful. I have always felt this was something like emphazema or asthma and doctors have advised various invasive tests or medications. So, the last two mornings I have woken up with this pain. Also I have had joint swelling. Knowing what I know now, I see this all coming on exactly when anal itching started and ascaris eggs showed up in my samples. For me, the ascaris egg laying flares directly correlate to symptoms of asthma and joint pain. I am not yet sure how to get rid of the Ascaris. They are the only 'worm' that the general Humaworm protocol has not eliminated. I am sure Klinghardt will provide a path on this when we see him, but if anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I'd love to hear them. I am thinking that they are hard to get because of their life cycling in the lungs. Of interest we see very few actual roundworms in stool tests anymore, only the eggs. So I am thinking of doing the humaworm lung cleanse next. Will see. I wonder if doing some steam inhalation of an herb would help?Well I apologize for my rather campy description of our family update. At each step in our process I intensely learn the science, then make a decision, and by the time we move through that decision into and past action a lot of the detail has become diluted in my mind and I find it easier to just explain what happened on the ground.THANKS THANKS so much to all of you who give your best everyday and take the time to share it with our family. I am humbled in gratitude and give you all of my greatest thanks.OH, lastly, Ellie is still wracked with keratosis pilaris, any and all recommendations for this are welcome. I have read that it is related to a vit a deficiency (because of the measles virus eating up her A? Because of poor fat soluble vitamin absorption?), but just am back at the starting block on this one. Someone posted a good lotion- what was this? I want to of course wholly address the underlying issue, but would like to also bring the surface rash down a little if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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