Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

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Toni and anyone else......also, I saw people reccomending diatomaceous earth food grade for parasite, bacteria, viral, anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and mild on system. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby. Looks chalky and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely or whether it's a good product to start with? Alisabeth To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:35 PM Subject: Re: To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

That's cool you are going to see Dr. Rossignol. :-)But Dr. Berger is closer (in Tampa.)We use Dr. III with Clinic because he is no-vax friendly. Previously we were with Tamara Pistoria who was in Winter Haven. She was also no vax friendly. Well she was, and we had an issue so I left her (I wanted her to special order a vax, she did, it expired, she must have got in trouble, and so she refused to order it again... this was when I was slow/single vaxing and not anti-vax). But anyway, she is now with Clinic in Lakeland too. She might sign off on bloodwork, but I don't think would. He didn't even want to test for MTHFR because he said "I don't know how to treat it, so why would I test for it?"

I would not try Dr. Ford in Highland City "Kids First Pediatrics." She's does not have a good practice at all. Bad bedside manner and just bad service.BTW check with the ins co about blood work. I thought I would have to have a covered doctor write the lab sheet, but my ins co paid the labwork as long as I went to an in network lab, it didn't matter if the doctor who wrote the lab sheet up was in network or not.

Hello amazing amazing ladies that I have been learning from for only about 6 months......feels like years. :-)

You all have changed my world, given me hope beyond anything I could have dreamt. Although I am new to biomed, I am a huge promoter, and we have actually raised some funds online from perfect strangers supporting our cause, to go and see Dr. Dan Rossignol and Dr. Bradstreet in Melbourne, Florida.....the best from what I hear in the DAN! world, closest we can find from us in Lakeland.

We have a long way to go to raise enough to see them more than once, but we have enough for our first appointment which is going to be $445, plus bloodwork. Our 4.5 year old asd/adhd boy has been nothing short of an extreme rollercoaster of behavioral

issues......some days are golden, others are literal living hell......lol. sigh. I cannot keep up with all the amazing informative posts and research, so I look forward to handing over the burden to Dr. Rossignol and Bradstreet who can help me navigate better than I have the time for, as I try to earn income and care for my kiddos most all day long. (we also have a 16 month old baby girl who is now hitting because Landon hits her......).

Here is my issue listmates...... With Dr. Rossignol in Melbourne, Fla.....they suggest that we approach our pediatrician (totally useless) and ascertain if they are willing to sign off on bloodwork orders written by the DAN!, and the DAN will interpret. This gets it covered by insurance usually. Our pediatrician today told us that "these DAN! doctors are quacks and profiteers and taking advantage of you. I haven't found anyone yet who can

provide me with science to show that autism and adhd can be cured by such quacks". I know for a fact he is one of the billions of physicians with their heads buried in the sand or in the pockets of big pharma. Drug the boy.....that's of COURSE the ONLY option,.....biomedical PRACTICAL PHYSIOLOGY-based EVIDENCE of imbalances and the GUT-BRAIN connection simply don't exist!!!!!!!!!

So.....I am in search of a Pediatrician or developmental pediatrician and I am willing to drive wherever......our zip is 33812, who WOULD be on board with my seeing a specialist who requests bloodwork and will interpret it. I am trying to get it covered by insurance. We have medicaid...and generally they have been great thus far, we have CMS network for special needs.

Any referral or research advice before I start

calling every single pediatrician I can find in Lakeland, Plant City, Lake Wales, Bartow, Winter Haven, Auburndale to see if they would be willing to sign off on bloodwork requested by a Dan! dr.

I am so hopeful not for a "cure" but for a better quality of life for my truly precious boy that I would die for,.....even on his very very worst of days. Thanks everyone, hugs!!

Alisabeth and Dan Stoinlakeland, 33812 danandalisabeth@...

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We have a whole bag we use for fire ants.I have heard you can eat it but never have. I believe it would likely be like chewing an oyster shell up. LOL

 

Toni and anyone else......also, I saw people reccomending diatomaceous earth food grade for parasite, bacteria, viral, anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and mild on system.   Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby.  Looks chalky and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely or whether it's a good product to start with?

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My tax man uses this, he told me about 2 years ago, but I was chicken to try it. LOL!! He says his cholesterol levels are down and back to normal as well as his blood sugar. He feels over all all better. I do remember that whatever the dose was he started at 1/2 and worked up over a months time. Other than that I don't much about it. Oh and he said he buys it from Southern States Co-op.. a farm supply store here.

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Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

We have a whole bag we use for fire ants.

I have heard you can eat it but never have. I believe it would likely be like chewing an oyster shell up. LOL

Toni and anyone else......also, I saw people reccomending diatomaceous earth food grade for parasite, bacteria, viral, anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and mild on system. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby. Looks chalky and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely or whether it's a good product to start with?

Alisabeth

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I am sure everyone already knows this, but just in case, when buying from a feed

store be sure that the bag clearly states FOOD GRADE.

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food grade for parasite, bacteria, viral, anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and

mild on system. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just

ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby. Looks chalky

and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely

or whether it's a good product to start with?

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oh yah..i got mind from a place called wolfcreek.....yes must be sure it is the kind for human consumption!

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:40 AMSubject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

I am sure everyone already knows this, but just in case, when buying from a feed store be sure that the bag clearly states FOOD GRADE.> > > > > > Toni and anyone else......also, I saw people reccomending diatomaceous earth food grade for parasite, bacteria, viral,

anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and mild on system. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby. Looks chalky and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely or whether it's a good product to start with? > > Alisabeth> > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------> Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:> http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565> ----------------------------------------------------------> Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :> http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565> ------> Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37

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Hi all

I and my son have used it. We used Food grade - the positives- very cheap ($15).

So I think mine said a tablespoon, I started on a teaspoon. We did in mornings

only.

My son 27kg was on a 1/2tsp. I put it in juice, along with Vital greens stuff

for him

I have stopped it, as I started feeling very pale and weak. I think I haven't

had the other (pyrrole) supplements long, so my body is still adjusting to

chelating in a slow way.

I would start it again, once things calmed down again for us. We have had yeast

spiral, and trying to sort out metal chelation: porphyrins test due to talk to

Doc. today.

SO but be cautious with dosing. I couldn't function on the level I was taking.

We took it for about 3 weeks, which I am sure is not long enough.

cheers

Australia

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food grade for parasite, bacteria, viral, anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and

mild on system. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just

ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby. Looks chalky

and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely

or whether it's a good product to start with?

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Hi

Lots of us from UK are using it for our kids, families & pets, starting 4 days before the full moon (breading time for parasites) and finishing 4 days after the following full moon, i havent used it for my son yet but have read some great feedback reports.

HTH

x

To: mb12valtrex From: kristen@...Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:51:16 +0000Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

Hi allI and my son have used it. We used Food grade - the positives- very cheap ($15).So I think mine said a tablespoon, I started on a teaspoon. We did in mornings only.My son 27kg was on a 1/2tsp. I put it in juice, along with Vital greens stuff for himI have stopped it, as I started feeling very pale and weak. I think I haven't had the other (pyrrole) supplements long, so my body is still adjusting to chelating in a slow way. I would start it again, once things calmed down again for us. We have had yeast spiral, and trying to sort out metal chelation: porphyrins test due to talk to Doc. today.SO but be cautious with dosing. I couldn't function on the level I was taking. We took it for about 3 weeks, which I am sure is not long enough.cheersAustralia> > > > > > > > > > > > Toni and anyone else......also, I saw people reccomending diatomaceous earth food grade for parasite, bacteria, viral, anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and mild on system. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby. Looks chalky and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely or whether it's a good product to start with? > > > > Alisabeth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:> > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565> > ----------------------------------------------------------> > Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :> > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565> > ------> > Toni> > > > ------> > Mind like a steel trap...> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> >>

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I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.Best regards, From: Channa Brennon

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:25 AM Subject: Re: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

oh yah..i got mind from a place called wolfcreek.....yes must be sure it is the kind for human consumption!

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:40 AMSubject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

I am sure everyone already knows this, but just in case, when buying from a feed store be sure that the bag clearly states FOOD GRADE.> > > > > > Toni and anyone else......also, I saw people reccomending diatomaceous earth food grade for parasite, bacteria,

viral,

anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and mild on system. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby. Looks chalky and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely or whether it's a good product to start with? > > Alisabeth> > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------> Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:> http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565> ----------------------------------------------------------> Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :> http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565> ------> Toni> > ------> Mind like a steel trap...> Rusty and illegal in 37

states.>

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I

have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.Best regards, To: Valtrex <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: RE: Re:

DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

Hi

Lots of us from UK are using it for our kids, families & pets, starting 4 days before the full moon (breading time for parasites) and finishing 4 days after the following full moon, i havent used it for my son yet but have read some great feedback reports.

HTH

x

To: mb12valtrex From: kristen@...Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:51:16 +0000Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

Hi allI and my son have used it. We used Food grade - the positives- very cheap ($15).So I think mine said a tablespoon, I started on a teaspoon. We did in mornings only.My son 27kg was on a 1/2tsp. I put it in juice, along with Vital greens stuff for himI have stopped it, as I started feeling very pale and weak. I think I haven't had the other (pyrrole) supplements long, so my body is still adjusting to chelating in a slow way. I would start it again, once things calmed down again for us. We have had yeast spiral, and trying to sort out metal chelation: porphyrins test due to talk to Doc. today.SO but be cautious with dosing. I couldn't function on the level I was taking. We took it for about 3 weeks, which I am sure is not long enough.cheersAustralia> > > > > > > > > > > > Toni and anyone else......also, I saw people reccomending diatomaceous earth food grade for parasite, bacteria, viral,

anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and mild on system. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby. Looks chalky and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely or whether it's a good product to start with? > > > > Alisabeth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:> > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565> > ----------------------------------------------------------> > Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :> > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565> > ------> > Toni> > > > ------> > Mind like

a steel trap...> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> >>

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I

have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.Best regards, To: Valtrex <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: RE: Re:

DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

Hi

Lots of us from UK are using it for our kids, families & pets, starting 4 days before the full moon (breading time for parasites) and finishing 4 days after the following full moon, i havent used it for my son yet but have read some great feedback reports.

HTH

x

To: mb12valtrex From: kristen@...Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:51:16 +0000Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

Hi allI and my son have used it. We used Food grade - the positives- very cheap ($15).So I think mine said a tablespoon, I started on a teaspoon. We did in mornings only.My son 27kg was on a 1/2tsp. I put it in juice, along with Vital greens stuff for himI have stopped it, as I started feeling very pale and weak. I think I haven't had the other (pyrrole) supplements long, so my body is still adjusting to chelating in a slow way. I would start it again, once things calmed down again for us. We have had yeast spiral, and trying to sort out metal chelation: porphyrins test due to talk to Doc. today.SO but be cautious with dosing. I couldn't function on the level I was taking. We took it for about 3 weeks, which I am sure is not long enough.cheersAustralia> > > > > > > > > > > > Toni and anyone else......also, I saw people reccomending diatomaceous earth food grade for parasite, bacteria, viral,

anti-fungal.....and it is cheap and mild on system. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I just ordered it and plan to use it on my whole family except the baby. Looks chalky and yucky, but reviews were amazing. Anything anyone knows on how to use safely or whether it's a good product to start with? > > > > Alisabeth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:> > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565> > ----------------------------------------------------------> > Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :> > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565> > ------> > Toni> > > > ------> > Mind like

a steel trap...> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> >>

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I also heard about the aluminum content and tried to track down whether this was

a significant issue. I read that it is 'low' compared to what might be ingested

from say baking powder or from aluminum cooking pans, etc. But we have

eliminated all of those from our household. Thanks for the reminder to get back

to the grindstone on this issue. I assume it won't be as significant of an issue

as when aluminum is injected into the bloodstream attached to other toxic

things, as it is in vaccines. I also wonder, since we are doing so much

chlorella, if the aluminum is less of an issue and the benefit of the

antiparisitic overshadows it.

Hmmmm. Always murky, the waters they are.

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> Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone

> mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high.Â

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on there, So I just backed off of it.

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i heard somewhere that the silica in the diamatous clay keeps the aluminum binded....

me personally feel if i can clean the mucoid plaque/parasites/biofilm.....with this clay....the aluminum will leave on its own.

i go to the biggiest problem first no garentees....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:21 AMSubject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

I also heard about the aluminum content and tried to track down whether this was a significant issue. I read that it is 'low' compared to what might be ingested from say baking powder or from aluminum cooking pans, etc. But we have eliminated all of those from our household. Thanks for the reminder to get back to the grindstone on this issue. I assume it won't be as significant of an issue as when aluminum is injected into the bloodstream attached to other toxic things, as it is in vaccines. I also wonder, since we are doing so much chlorella, if the aluminum is less of an issue and the benefit of the antiparisitic overshadows it.Hmmmm. Always murky, the waters they are.>> I have tried Diatomaceous Earth

food grade (because of its high value of > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.> > > Best regards,

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Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking

and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only

would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so

would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain

:).

So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal

permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a

problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am

thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that

neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the

vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d.

clay while staying on these.

Hmmm.

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was on there, So I just backed off of it.

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well i can tell you what i did....i trialed the d.clay and did not see it come out in a formed stool movement which it should as clay is binding....so i stopped. my son had leaky gut at the time. a year later stuff was still in my closet and i tried it again....then i saw the bigger firmer stool which is the reaction you SHOULD get from clay...then i knew his gut was healthy enuff to continue....

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:08 AMSubject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm.> >> > I have

tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.> > > > > > Best regards,>