Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

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hello, my seven yr old has high measles titers he will be starting the immunovir soon with seven day cover of prednisolone but i am worried about how this will impact on his constipation as he is already quite bad off and on. Secondly a doctor has had my own titers checked and has pointed to a mild raise in the herpes iGg which has been classified as positive in the report sheet. he has suggested oral valtrex for for 10 days. but i am unsure as other than stress and restlessness dark eye circles i dont feel anything. i already have a sick child and i am afraid, pls

help what options do i have.I dont not want to do anything if some treatment is needed.. the dr says the stress and the dark circle s round my eyes will go after the treatment. i really hope someone reading this can suggest. he has got me to check cd4 and cd8 levels for immunity not really sure if this true reflection of immune status. please help me someoneSubject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To:

mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).

So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these.

Hmmm.

> >

> > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of

> > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone

> > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high.ÂÂ

> >

> > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

>

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Tahira,If I was in your shoes, I would address the measles first. Look into the high dose protocol using micellized Vitamin A. If your son has gut issues, there's a very good chance this is caused by the high measles titers and you'll have a much easier time recovering him once his belly is in working order. First, I would address the measles with the A, then start with a quality probiotic before getting to work with an antiviral. Because we have never used it, I will only comment briefly enough on the Valtrex to say that I wouldn't doing a 10 day course. Treatment with Valtrex takes months, sometimes years. A 10 day course runs the risk of making the virus resistant to the Valtrex. Perhaps you will hear from someone who has experience with it to back me up here. But hold off for now.My first priority would be to get him pooping. Epsom salt dissolved in water, good ole vitamin c and flax seed/oil and/or castor oil are good options to start with. Kefir is awesome to get things moving.If it is your son with dark circles, it could indicate food intolerances. What's his diet like?Cheryl has a fantastic blogspot here where she explains the basics of antivirals. Check it out!http://gryffins-tail.blogspot.com/2011/01/antiviral-therapy-101.htmlOther great sites to check out are:enzymestuff.comDanasview. nethope this helps,Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:58 PM Subject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

hello, my seven yr old has high measles titers he will be starting the immunovir soon with seven day cover of prednisolone but i am worried about how this will impact on his constipation as he is already quite bad off and on. Secondly a doctor has had my own titers checked and has pointed to a mild raise in the herpes iGg which has been classified as positive in the report sheet. he has suggested oral valtrex for for 10 days. but i am unsure as other than stress and restlessness dark eye circles i dont feel anything. i already have a sick child and i

am afraid, pls

help what options do i have.I dont not want to do anything if some treatment is needed.. the dr says the stress and the dark circle s round my eyes will go after the treatment. i really hope someone reading this can suggest. he has got me to check cd4 and cd8 levels for immunity not really sure if this true reflection of immune status. please help me someoneSubject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To:

mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).

So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these.

Hmmm.

> >

> > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of

> > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone

> > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high.ÂÂ

> >

> > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

>

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it is hard for me to read thru what docter is telling you to do...i could try and help if you left the docters thoughts out of it...and just plain...tell me what your child symptoms are...starting with the worst..

and then seperatly what your symptoms are starting with the worst..

i go by symptoms not tests..

i also am not familiar with the docter scripts stuff....but i could help you with natural stuff if you were interested

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:58 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

hello, my seven yr old has high measles titers he will be starting the immunovir soon with seven day cover of prednisolone but i am worried about how this will impact on his constipation as he is already quite bad off and on

.. Secondly a doctor has had my own titers checked and has pointed to a mild raise in the herpes iGg which has been classified as positive in the report sheet. he has suggested oral valtrex for for 10 days. but i am unsure as other than stress and restlessness dark eye circles i dont feel anything. i already have a sick child and i am afraid, pls help what options do i have.I dont not want to do anything if some treatment is needed.. the dr says the stress and the dark circle s round my eyes will go after the treatment. i really hope someone reading this can suggest. he has got me to check cd4 and cd8 levels for

immunity not really sure if this true reflection of immune status. please help me someone

Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm.> >> > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and

aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.> > > > > > Best regards,>

[Guest guest]

Yes seems very logical what u are saying. i heard recently of the vit A you mention and have ordered it so will try to make a start when it arrives. yes his gut is needing help. i have tried so much for his gut but the loading and constipation come back. i trie d to introduce some barley after he has been on SCD for 10 months but i feel his gut noy ready yet so thats why he got the constipation. he has the probiotics CP1 daily.thks for the site s to check out. i have sent away for the food allergytest and OATS. He is on very basic diet hypersensitive

to so many things just dont know what to give him, its hardSubject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To:

mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).

So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these.

Hmmm.

> >

> > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of

> > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone

> > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high.ÂÂ

> >

> > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

>

[Guest guest]

my son is 7 now have worke d real hard with all different nutritionists and doctors but the chronic constipation doesnt go. he is still mainly non verbal and has daily myoclonic seizures. the meds for seizures in the past and the one now dont help much.his gut and stool tests show loading and high pathogenic load. his bloods showed very high titers to measles. i know i need to start the antiviral soon as this been recommended by the dr.but i wonder how much i can hope to achieve from use of imunovir. all other tests have shown his ok ie the

mri, lumbar puncture etc. he has been on the DAN protocol for the last yr or so. for me i have dark circles round the eyes, have put on lot of weight, become very stressed all the time and feel tired a lot of time. the herpes that the test has shown is not very high but the dr feels i need to take valtrex, b12 and prednisolone. i am not sure about this. Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm.> >> > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and

aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.> > > > > > Best regards,>

[Guest guest]

i am not a big DAN docter fan. . but this is just my personal opinion.....if you were my best friend i would say...your kid is full of metals...when i hear siezures i think parasites and metals...both to me go together...

i dont believe in DAN chelation methods...have heard bad things about not saying that they didnt help some people but that they also hurt some people.....did they do chelation on your son? and did he get worse after?

let me ask you this.....has your child improved at all since seeing your DAN docter?

if you are interested i can email you what i have done to heal my son of his constipation and metal toxicity...

i did things without a DR. so let me know if you are interested....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:25 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

my son is 7 now have worke d real hard with all different nutritionists and doctors but the chronic constipation doesnt go. he is still mainly non verbal and has daily myoclonic seizures. the meds for seizures in the past and the one now dont help much.his gut and stool tests show loading and high pathogenic load. his bloods showed very high titers to measles. i know i need to start the antiviral soon as this been recommended by the dr.but i wonder how much i can hope to achieve from use of imunovir. all other tests have shown his ok ie the mri, lumbar puncture etc. he has been on the DAN

protocol for the last yr or so.

for me i have dark circles round the eyes, have put on lot of weight, become very stressed all the time and feel tired a lot of time. the herpes that the test has shown is not very high but the dr feels i need to take valtrex, b12 and prednisolone. i am not sure about this. Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm.> >> > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they

have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.> > > > > > Best regards,>

[Guest guest]

Channa,

I'm also very interested. I know a lot here are

interested. Please tell us.

Thank you,

Mhel

To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:25:34 -0800Subject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

i am not a big DAN docter fan. . but this is just my personal opinion.....if you were my best friend i would say...your kid is full of metals...when i hear siezures i think parasites and metals...both to me go together...

i dont believe in DAN chelation methods...have heard bad things about not saying that they didnt help some people but that they also hurt some people.....did they do chelation on your son? and did he get worse after?

let me ask you this.....has your child improved at all since seeing your DAN docter?

if you are interested i can email you what i have done to heal my son of his constipation and metal toxicity...

i did things without a DR. so let me know if you are interested....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:25 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

my son is 7 now have worke d real hard with all different nutritionists and doctors but the chronic constipation doesnt go. he is still mainly non verbal and has daily myoclonic seizures. the meds for seizures in the past and the one now dont help much.his gut and stool tests show loading and high pathogenic load. his bloods showed very high titers to measles. i know i need to start the antiviral soon as this been recommended by the dr.but i wonder how much i can hope to achieve from use of imunovir. all other tests have shown his ok ie the mri, lumbar puncture etc. he has been on the DAN protocol for the last yr or so. for me i have dark circles round the eyes, have put on lot of weight, become very stressed all the time and feel tired a lot of time. the herpes that the test has shown is not very high but the dr feels i need to take valtrex, b12 and prednisolone. i am not sure about this. Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm.> >> > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.> > > > > > Best regards,>

[Guest guest]

channa,

thanks for yours, ý am interested in about your experiance

will appreciate if you csn share..

thakns,

sema

To: mb12valtrex From: aberilasin@...Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:07:53 +0800Subject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Channa,I'm also very interested. I know a lot here areinterested. Please tell us. Thank you, Mhel

To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:25:34 -0800Subject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

i am not a big DAN docter fan. . but this is just my personal opinion.....if you were my best friend i would say...your kid is full of metals...when i hear siezures i think parasites and metals...both to me go together...

i dont believe in DAN chelation methods...have heard bad things about not saying that they didnt help some people but that they also hurt some people.....did they do chelation on your son? and did he get worse after?

let me ask you this.....has your child improved at all since seeing your DAN docter?

if you are interested i can email you what i have done to heal my son of his constipation and metal toxicity...

i did things without a DR. so let me know if you are interested....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:25 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

my son is 7 now have worke d real hard with all different nutritionists and doctors but the chronic constipation doesnt go. he is still mainly non verbal and has daily myoclonic seizures. the meds for seizures in the past and the one now dont help much.his gut and stool tests show loading and high pathogenic load. his bloods showed very high titers to measles. i know i need to start the antiviral soon as this been recommended by the dr.but i wonder how much i can hope to achieve from use of imunovir. all other tests have shown his ok ie the mri, lumbar puncture etc. he has been on the DAN protocol for the last yr or so. for me i have dark circles round the eyes, have put on lot of weight, become very stressed all the time and feel tired a lot of time. the herpes that the test has shown is not very high but the dr feels i need to take valtrex, b12 and prednisolone. i am not sure about this. Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm.> >> > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.> > > > > > Best regards,>

[Guest guest]

Hello channa,

I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation

go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.

thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

>

[Guest guest]

Some people have reported great improvements with nutriivedafor seizure activity also weight gain look up pursuit of research websiteLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:52:56 +0000 (GMT)To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls Hello channa, I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08 Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,>

[Guest guest]

Put me on that list Channa, am just now ordering some AVC, it's bin soo many things and supplements to get even doing Gaps dietSent from my iPod

channa,

thanks for yours, ı am interested in about your experiance

will appreciate if you csn share..

thakns,

sema

To: mb12valtrex From: aberilasin@...Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:07:53 +0800Subject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Channa,I'm also very interested. I know a lot here areinterested. Please tell us. Thank you, Mhel

To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:25:34 -0800Subject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

i am not a big DAN docter fan. . but this is just my personal opinion.....if you were my best friend i would say...your kid is full of metals...when i hear siezures i think parasites and metals...both to me go together...

i dont believe in DAN chelation methods...have heard bad things about not saying that they didnt help some people but that they also hurt some people.....did they do chelation on your son? and did he get worse after?

let me ask you this.....has your child improved at all since seeing your DAN docter?

if you are interested i can email you what i have done to heal my son of his constipation and metal toxicity...

i did things without a DR. so let me know if you are interested....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:25 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

my son is 7 now have worke d real hard with all different nutritionists and doctors but the chronic constipation doesnt go. he is still mainly non verbal and has daily myoclonic seizures. the meds for seizures in the past and the one now dont help much.his gut and stool tests show loading and high pathogenic load. his bloods showed very high titers to measles. i know i need to start the antiviral soon as this been recommended by the dr.but i wonder how much i can hope to achieve from use of imunovir. all other tests have shown his ok ie the mri, lumbar puncture etc. he has been on the DAN protocol for the last yr or so. for me i have dark circles round the eyes, have put on lot of weight, become very stressed all the time and feel tired a lot of time. the herpes that the test has shown is not very high but the dr feels i need to take valtrex, b12 and prednisolone. i am not sure about this. Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :).So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm.> >> > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it.> > > > > > Best regards,>

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is nutriveda for weight gain or seizures in kids? Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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what is the AVC? Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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Activated charcoal, was thinking milk thistle too not sure of the two to get, just that with the charcoal they warn it also absorbs the good medication too!!!Sent from my iPod

what is the AVC? Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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Tahira,

My son was severely constipated when he was 13 yrs old. After 3 months of trying everything that is suppose to prevent constipation and then another 2 months of doing ememas evey other night in conjuntion with all other things like diet, stool softners, raisn pastes, prune juice, etc.. you name we tried it I think. I finally tried the biofilm protocol in a slightly modified version. I did this 2 x a day for eight weeks and still use it anytime his BM's try to slow down. I used Peta Cohen version basically with the aniti fungals, bacterials that I know work okay on my son, as he too has seizures. ( I cannot use Olive leaf extract as it casues a seizure everytime for him) (also constipation will cause my son seizures) Seizures...that is whole other situation. I don't know how much you've tried in diet and supplements ot control them, but we gone form 3-4 seizures in a day 1 -2 x monthly to one siezure about every 3-4 months now and we don't use a seizure med. It's took about 6 months to find the right comboination and another 6 months to basically perfect it to where we are now.

Here's basically how I do the BIofilm for my son that has fixed our constiaption issues.

Biofilm Protocol

I like to start with cleaning out the intestines as much as possible before starting the protocol with an enema and or laxative. Supplements you will need before starting:

Enzymes: at least 2 of these:

Nattokinase

Serrapetase

Lumbrokinase ) I preferred Nattio and Lumbro)

You will also need some organic Cleanser for the Liver, Colon, etc.

Ones I like are :

The Cleaner by Century Systems. They have 7 day and 14 day and they have them for Men and or Women. I prefer a 14 day, this has supporting probiotic and stomach protectors as well.

Herbal Guard by Yerba Prima

or you can use individual herbs, but I like the first two products a lot. (after protocol, I use the four below quite often for maintence.)

Oregano Oil (capsule)

Golden Seal

Green Black Walnut hull (oil)

De Arco (oil)

Taurine capsules or powder- important for motility and bile production 500mg – 2,000 mgs per. Over 500mg divide into two doses daily.

Bicarbonate water (ie: Pierre, QuZac etc,)

Apple Pectin powder capsules or powder

In the morning upon wakening give 2 enzymes along with the Cleanser. (Ideally the enzymes 30 minutes prior to the cleanser, but we found it will still work if given together if time is very limited) We use applesauce to get the capsules down and about 4 – 6 ounces of fluids behind it. No food till about 45 minutes – 1 hour later. Then they can have their normal breakfast along with other supplements. Taurine should be in that group. 2- 4 ounces of bicarbonate water should also be included in drinks two times a day minimally.

Repeat this again later in the day. For us a good time was right after school as his tummy was about empty and the little bit of applesauce and a drink was enough to get the pills down and satisfy him for the next hour before his snack or dinner.

If you see tiredness or flu type symptoms, that’s usually okay. This would be the result of the “die off†of bacteria and possibly parasites living in the intestines. The apple pectin powder is good to give 30 minutes- to an hour afterwards to help absorb those toxins caused by “die off†. Those symptoms should end after the first week or two. If they seem severe, please go see the doctor. BM’s may get loose after a few days on this and ideally so, as long as you keep hydration up, you should be fine. They should get messy and yucky while getting rid of the stuff that’s been clogged up in there behind the biofilm wall.

I do this for about 4 – 8 weeks for a child with severe recurrent impaction. I also do this two times a year or anytime I see bowels slowing down for more than a week without those daily BM’s. (when I redo, it's not usually for 8 weeks though, just till I know things are moving steady again.

Be sure to include probiotics once finished the protocol and a good multi vitamin and mineral support. If you are doing vitamins, it is still good to continue them thru the process.

I am not a doctor, this is just something that has worked that I have learned and modified while reading about it. So I am sharing this here for anyone who wants to try it. Dr. Peta Cohen and Dr. Usman are ones that use a protocol similar. This is how I personally used it for and it has worked time and time again over the past 3 yrs when bowels slow down. We keep the Taurine and bicarbonate in his diet all the time along with a host of other nutrients and strict diet.

Does your son have partial continuous seizures? I know things like measles and encephalitis and other viral things can cause seizures mainly due to inflammation in the brain. Many docs are prescribing Ibuprofen 300 - 400 mgs each time now 3 times a day to hlep decrease brain inflammtion? Ideally I know you need to rid the measles. But there are several aniti-inflammaotries being used these days to help keep inflammtion down in the brain. Maybe you look into that if he's not on one already.

Some of the things that helped us with seizure activity were.. being sure not too give him too many things that have much asparatic acid or glutamate / glutamic acid in them, as these are excitotory amino acids, they tend to add to risk of seziures in kids with neuro issues. We still give him oatmeal, but have eliminated many other things high in these areas, and lowered his protein levels to a place of tolerence. You can google good lists and cross reference what you eat regualry and see if any are high) We don't do grains other than oats and rice. Seems red meats needed the most adjusting, Chicken and fish were fine. No pork, and or amazingly enough no venicien either. Also supplements like Taurine, Selenium, B-6, folinic acid, (keeping all minerals where up to par, magnesium is a biggie. If you are giving seizure meds, then you might want to check out the deficiencies the med can cause. Manytime the med will work short term then 6 months later seizure activity increases again as the med has caused a deficiency in let say "selenium" or in Keppra's case, B-6. Deficiencies in these can be a cause of seizures, so instead of increasing the med, add in the nutirent that is being lowered. So amny time the med is depleting something that it is suppose to be fixing.. ergh.. For use with Ibuprofen, we have to watch Iron levels. they get too low. You can google most of these things to find the deficiency caused by a med. You may have to look thru a page a too as they are not always on top on the list when you google.

I could on and on, but every case is unique, so it really takes fine tuning and adjustment and I find www.seizuretracker.com to be great asset in helping keep a log to idnetify what is working and what is not. You can print it out, send it you doc etc.. this family really made a super site for those seizures, they did this out of neccessity to try and diagnosis their own son that was having so many seizures in a day, triggers were hard to indentify.

I hope some of this helps. I HATE SEIZURES more than the other things. They are horrible to watch. Because the disease our son has can have such difficult airways as they age, we keep diastat on hand and give him this via rectal admin within 2 minutes of him having a seizure. (of course you can't use this 3 -4 times a day, but for us it works in keeping his body and brain from losing oxygen by shortening the time of the seizure activity. I think it has been a good thing to have for our son.

Praying you are able to get some relief and healing for your son.

Patty T - Mom to

www.caringbridge.org/md/myjesse

Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

To: mb12valtrex

Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards, >

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Well its supposed to be for weight loss but when parents on cherub group for apraxia started using it they had pretty ununexpected results it helped with speech. Helped with seizures and amazingly enough helped with weight gainLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:23:03 +0000 (GMT)To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls is nutriveda for weight gain or seizures in kids? Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08 Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,>

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great post Patty!!!!!!!!! thanks for sharing...this is similar idea to what I did as well..the main thing for me was cutting out his food allergys...cutting out grains...castor oil packs....and then when his gut wasnt constanty inflammed from food i was able to give him virastop for the biofilm ....goldenseal....culturelle...and pyslium powder that didnt work until i cut out the allergic foods.....

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 8:38 AMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Tahira,

My son was severely constipated when he was 13 yrs old. After 3 months of trying everything that is suppose to prevent constipation and then another 2 months of doing ememas evey other night in conjuntion with all other things like diet, stool softners, raisn pastes, prune juice, etc.. you name we tried it I think. I finally tried the biofilm protocol in a slightly modified version. I did this 2 x a day for eight weeks and still use it anytime his BM's try to slow down. I used Peta Cohen version basically with the aniti fungals, bacterials that I know work okay on my son, as he too has seizures. ( I cannot use Olive leaf extract as it casues a seizure everytime for him) (also constipation will cause my son seizures) Seizures...that is whole other situation. I don't know how much you've tried in diet and supplements ot control them, but we gone form 3-4 seizures in a day 1 -2 x monthly to one siezure about

every 3-4 months now and we don't use a seizure med. It's took about 6 months to find the right comboination and another 6 months to basically perfect it to where we are now.

Here's basically how I do the BIofilm for my son that has fixed our constiaption issues.

Biofilm Protocol

I like to start with cleaning out the intestines as much as possible before starting the protocol with an enema and or laxative. Supplements you will need before starting:

Enzymes: at least 2 of these:

Nattokinase

Serrapetase

Lumbrokinase ) I preferred Nattio and Lumbro)

You will also need some organic Cleanser for the Liver, Colon, etc.

Ones I like are :

The Cleaner by Century Systems. They have 7 day and 14 day and they have them for Men and or Women. I prefer a 14 day, this has supporting probiotic and stomach protectors as well.

Herbal Guard by Yerba Prima

or you can use individual herbs, but I like the first two products a lot. (after protocol, I use the four below quite often for maintence.)

Oregano Oil (capsule)

Golden Seal

Green Black Walnut hull (oil)

De Arco (oil)

Taurine capsules or powder- important for motility and bile production 500mg – 2,000 mgs per. Over 500mg divide into two doses daily.

Bicarbonate water (ie: Pierre, QuZac etc,)

Apple Pectin powder capsules or powder

In the morning upon wakening give 2 enzymes along with the Cleanser. (Ideally the enzymes 30 minutes prior to the cleanser, but we found it will still work if given together if time is very limited) We use applesauce to get the capsules down and about 4 – 6 ounces of fluids behind it. No food till about 45 minutes – 1 hour later. Then they can have their normal breakfast along with other supplements. Taurine should be in that group. 2- 4 ounces of bicarbonate water should also be included in drinks two times a day minimally.

Repeat this again later in the day. For us a good time was right after school as his tummy was about empty and the little bit of applesauce and a drink was enough to get the pills down and satisfy him for the next hour before his snack or dinner.

If you see tiredness or flu type symptoms, that’s usually okay. This would be the result of the “die off†of bacteria and possibly parasites living in the intestines. The apple pectin powder is good to give 30 minutes- to an hour afterwards to help absorb those toxins caused by “die off†. Those symptoms should end after the first week or two. If they seem severe, please go see the doctor. BM’s may get loose after a few days on this and ideally so, as long as you keep hydration up, you should be fine. They should get messy and yucky while getting rid of the stuff that’s been clogged up in there behind the biofilm wall.

I do this for about 4 – 8 weeks for a child with severe recurrent impaction. I also do this two times a year or anytime I see bowels slowing down for more than a week without those daily BM’s. (when I redo, it's not usually for 8 weeks though, just till I know things are moving steady again.

Be sure to include probiotics once finished the protocol and a good multi vitamin and mineral support. If you are doing vitamins, it is still good to continue them thru the process.

I am not a doctor, this is just something that has worked that I have learned and modified while reading about it. So I am sharing this here for anyone who wants to try it. Dr. Peta Cohen and Dr. Usman are ones that use a protocol similar. This is how I personally used it for and it has worked time and time again over the past 3 yrs when bowels slow down. We keep the Taurine and bicarbonate in his diet all the time along with a host of other nutrients and strict diet.

Does your son have partial continuous seizures? I know things like measles and encephalitis and other viral things can cause seizures mainly due to inflammation in the brain. Many docs are prescribing Ibuprofen 300 - 400 mgs each time now 3 times a day to hlep decrease brain inflammtion? Ideally I know you need to rid the measles. But there are several aniti-inflammaotries being used these days to help keep inflammtion down in the brain. Maybe you look into that if he's not on one already.

Some of the things that helped us with seizure activity were.. being sure not too give him too many things that have much asparatic acid or glutamate / glutamic acid in them, as these are excitotory amino acids, they tend to add to risk of seziures in kids with neuro issues. We still give him oatmeal, but have eliminated many other things high in these areas, and lowered his protein levels to a place of tolerence. You can google good lists and cross reference what you eat regualry and see if any are high) We don't do grains other than oats and rice. Seems red meats needed the most adjusting, Chicken and fish were fine. No pork, and or amazingly enough no venicien either. Also supplements like Taurine, Selenium, B-6, folinic acid, (keeping all minerals where up to par, magnesium is a biggie. If you are giving seizure meds, then you might want to check out the deficiencies the med can cause. Manytime the med will work short term then 6

months later seizure activity increases again as the med has caused a deficiency in let say "selenium" or in Keppra's case, B-6. Deficiencies in these can be a cause of seizures, so instead of increasing the med, add in the nutirent that is being lowered. So amny time the med is depleting something that it is suppose to be fixing.. ergh.. For use with Ibuprofen, we have to watch Iron levels. they get too low. You can google most of these things to find the deficiency caused by a med. You may have to look thru a page a too as they are not always on top on the list when you google.

I could on and on, but every case is unique, so it really takes fine tuning and adjustment and I find www.seizuretracker.com to be great asset in helping keep a log to idnetify what is working and what is not. You can print it out, send it you doc etc.. this family really made a super site for those seizures, they did this out of neccessity to try and diagnosis their own son that was having so many seizures in a day, triggers were hard to indentify.

I hope some of this helps. I HATE SEIZURES more than the other things. They are horrible to watch. Because the disease our son has can have such difficult airways as they age, we keep diastat on hand and give him this via rectal admin within 2 minutes of him having a seizure. (of course you can't use this 3 -4 times a day, but for us it works in keeping his body and brain from losing oxygen by shortening the time of the seizure activity. I think it has been a good thing to have for our son.

Praying you are able to get some relief and healing for your son.

Patty T - Mom to

www.caringbridge.org/md/myjesse

Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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Hi Guys,Since you guys are suffering from seizures, I thought it would be nice to share some info I recently learned from Natasha McBride. She is a neurologist and her son is fully recovered. She says epilepsy is toxicity. She says when the level of toxicity builds up in the brain and it is high, brain sends one electrical discharge to destroy them. It is the way of brain to clean itself. By toxins, she refers to the toxins that are by products of pathogenic microorganisms in the gut. They go to the brain and cause toxicity which are the major cause of autistic behaviors. So I am thinking working on the gut and cleaning it should also help with seizures. Most of you probably know this but I just wanted to share anyway. Take care

Ayse

 

great post Patty!!!!!!!!!  thanks for sharing...this is similar idea to what I did as well..the main thing for me was cutting out his food allergys...cutting out grains...castor oil packs....and then when his gut wasnt constanty inflammed from food i was able to give him virastop for the biofilm ....goldenseal....culturelle...and pyslium powder that didnt work until i cut out the allergic foods.....

channa

 

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 8:38 AM

Subject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

 

Tahira,

 My son was severely constipated when he was 13 yrs old. After 3 months of trying everything that is suppose to prevent constipation and then another 2 months of doing ememas evey other night in conjuntion with all other things like diet, stool softners, raisn pastes, prune juice, etc.. you name we tried it I think.  I finally tried the biofilm protocol in a slightly modified version. I did this 2 x a day for eight weeks and still use it anytime his BM's try to slow down.  I used Peta Cohen version basically with the aniti fungals, bacterials that I know work okay on my son, as he too has seizures. ( I cannot use Olive leaf extract as it casues a seizure everytime for him) (also constipation will cause my son seizures)  Seizures...that is whole other situation.  I don't know how much you've tried in diet and supplements ot control them, but we gone form 3-4 seizures in a day 1 -2 x monthly to one siezure about

every 3-4 months now and we don't use a seizure med. It's took about 6 months to find the right comboination and another 6 months to basically perfect it to where we are now.

 

Here's basically how I do the BIofilm for my son that has fixed our constiaption issues.

 

Biofilm Protocol

 

I like to start with cleaning out the intestines as much as possible before starting the protocol with an enema and or laxative. Supplements you will need before starting:

 

Enzymes: at least 2 of these:

Nattokinase

Serrapetase

Lumbrokinase ) I preferred Nattio and Lumbro)

 

You will also need some organic Cleanser for the Liver, Colon, etc.

Ones I like are :

The Cleaner by Century Systems. They have 7 day and 14 day and they have them for Men and or Women. I prefer a 14 day, this has supporting probiotic and stomach protectors as well.

Herbal Guard by Yerba Prima

or you can use individual herbs, but I like the first two products a lot. (after protocol, I use the four below quite often for maintence.)

Oregano Oil (capsule)

Golden Seal

Green Black Walnut hull (oil)

De Arco (oil)

 

Taurine capsules or powder- important for motility and bile production 500mg – 2,000 mgs per. Over 500mg divide into two doses daily.

 

Bicarbonate water (ie: Pierre, QuZac etc,)

 

Apple Pectin powder capsules or powder

 

In the morning upon wakening give 2 enzymes along with the Cleanser. (Ideally the enzymes 30 minutes prior to the cleanser, but we found it will still work if given together if time is very limited) We use applesauce to get the capsules down and about 4 – 6 ounces of fluids behind it. No food till about 45 minutes – 1 hour later.  Then they can have their normal breakfast along with other supplements. Taurine should be in that group. 2- 4 ounces of bicarbonate water should also be included in drinks two times a day minimally.

 

Repeat this again later in the day. For us a good time was right after school as his tummy was about empty and the little bit of applesauce and a drink was enough to get the pills down and satisfy him for the next hour before his snack or dinner.

 

If you see tiredness or flu type symptoms, that’s usually okay. This would be the result of the “die off†of bacteria and possibly parasites living in the intestines. The apple pectin powder is good to give 30 minutes- to an hour afterwards to help absorb those toxins caused by “die off†. Those symptoms should end after the first week or two.  If they seem severe, please go see the doctor. BM’s may get loose after a few days on this and ideally so, as long as you keep hydration up, you should be fine.  They should get messy and yucky while getting rid of the stuff that’s been clogged up in there behind the biofilm wall.

I do this for about 4 – 8 weeks for a child with severe recurrent impaction. I also do this two times a year or anytime I see bowels slowing down for more than a week without those daily BM’s. (when I redo, it's not usually for 8 weeks though, just till I know things are moving steady again.

 

Be sure to include probiotics once finished the protocol and a good multi vitamin and mineral support. If you are doing vitamins, it is still good to continue them thru the process.

 

I am not a doctor, this is just something that has worked that I have learned and modified while reading about it.  So I am sharing this here for anyone who wants to try it. Dr. Peta Cohen and Dr. Usman are ones that use a protocol similar.  This is how I personally used it for and it has worked time and time again over the past 3 yrs when bowels slow down. We keep the Taurine and bicarbonate in his diet all the time along with a host of other nutrients and strict diet.

 

 Does your son have partial continuous seizures?  I know things like measles and encephalitis and other viral things can cause seizures mainly due to inflammation in the brain. Many docs are prescribing Ibuprofen 300 - 400 mgs each time now 3 times a day to hlep decrease brain inflammtion?  Ideally I know you need to rid the measles. But there are several aniti-inflammaotries being used these days to help keep inflammtion down in the brain. Maybe you look into that if he's not on one already.

 

Some of the things that helped us with seizure activity were.. being sure not too give him too many things that have much asparatic acid or glutamate / glutamic acid in them, as these are excitotory amino acids, they tend to add to risk of seziures in kids with neuro issues. We still give him oatmeal, but have eliminated many other things high in these areas, and lowered his protein levels to a place of tolerence. You can google good lists and cross reference what you eat regualry and see if any are high) We don't do grains other than oats and rice. Seems red meats needed the most adjusting, Chicken and fish were fine. No pork, and or amazingly enough no venicien either.  Also supplements like Taurine, Selenium, B-6, folinic acid, (keeping all minerals where up to par, magnesium is a biggie.  If you are giving seizure meds, then you might want to check out the deficiencies the med can cause. Manytime the med will work short term then 6

months later seizure activity increases again as the med has caused a deficiency in let say " selenium " or in Keppra's case, B-6. Deficiencies in these can be a cause of seizures, so instead of increasing the med, add in the nutirent that is being lowered. So amny time the med is depleting something that it is suppose to be fixing.. ergh..  For use with Ibuprofen, we have to watch Iron levels. they get too low. You can google most of these things to find  the deficiency caused by a med. You may have to look thru a page a too as they are not always on top on the list when you google.

 

I could on and on, but every case is unique, so it really takes fine tuning and adjustment and I find www.seizuretracker.com to be great asset in helping keep a log to idnetify what is working and what is not. You can print it out, send it you doc etc.. this family really made a super site for those seizures, they did this out of neccessity to try and diagnosis their own son that was having so many seizures in a day, triggers were hard to indentify.

 

 

I hope some of this helps. I HATE SEIZURES more than the other things. They are horrible to watch. Because the disease our son has can have such difficult airways as they age, we keep diastat on hand and give him this via rectal admin within 2 minutes of him having a seizure. (of course you can't use this 3 -4 times a day, but for us it works in keeping his body and brain from losing oxygen by shortening the time of the seizure activity. I think it has been a good thing to have for our son.

 

Praying you are able to get some relief and healing for your son.

 

Patty T - Mom to

www.caringbridge.org/md/myjesse

Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

 

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high.  > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there,  So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

GREAT POST!!!

It has officially joined my spreadsheet of greatest posts that I like to keep

track of!

Blessings,

Rita

>

>

>

>

> Tahira,

> My son was severely constipated when he was 13 yrs old. After 3 months of

trying everything that is suppose to prevent constipation and then another 2

months of doing ememas evey other night in conjuntion with all other things like

diet, stool softners, raisn pastes, prune juice, etc.. you name we tried it I

think. I finally tried the biofilm protocol in a slightly modified version. I

did this 2 x a day for eight weeks and still use it anytime his BM's try to slow

down. I used Peta Cohen version basically with the aniti fungals, bacterials

that I know work okay on my son, as he too has seizures. ( I cannot use Olive

leaf extract as it casues a seizure everytime for him) (also constipation will

cause my son seizures) Seizures...that is whole other situation. I don't know

how much you've tried in diet and supplements ot control them, but we gone form

3-4 seizures in a day 1 -2 x monthly to one siezure about every 3-4 months now

and we don't use a seizure med. It's took about 6 months to find the right

comboination and another 6 months to basically perfect it to where we are now.

>

> Here's basically how I do the BIofilm for my son that has fixed our

constiaption issues.

>

> Biofilm Protocol

>

> I like to start with cleaning out the intestines as much as possible before

starting the protocol with an enema and or laxative. Supplements you will need

before starting:

>

> Enzymes: at least 2 of these:

> Nattokinase

> Serrapetase

> Lumbrokinase ) I preferred Nattio and Lumbro)

>

> You will also need some organic Cleanser for the Liver, Colon, etc.

> Ones I like are :

> The Cleaner by Century Systems. They have 7 day and 14 day and they have them

for Men and or Women. I prefer a 14 day, this has supporting probiotic and

stomach protectors as well.

> Herbal Guard by Yerba Prima

> or you can use individual herbs, but I like the first two products a lot.

(after protocol, I use the four below quite often for maintence.)

> Oregano Oil (capsule)

> Golden Seal

> Green Black Walnut hull (oil)

> De Arco (oil)

>

> Taurine capsules or powder- important for motility and bile production 500mg

†" 2,000 mgs per. Over 500mg divide into two doses daily.

>

> Bicarbonate water (ie: Pierre, QuZac etc,)

>

> Apple Pectin powder capsules or powder

>

> In the morning upon wakening give 2 enzymes along with the Cleanser. (Ideally

the enzymes 30 minutes prior to the cleanser, but we found it will still work if

given together if time is very limited) We use applesauce to get the capsules

down and about 4 †" 6 ounces of fluids behind it. No food till about 45 minutes

†" 1 hour later. Then they can have their normal breakfast along with other

supplements. Taurine should be in that group. 2- 4 ounces of bicarbonate water

should also be included in drinks two times a day minimally.

>

> Repeat this again later in the day. For us a good time was right after school

as his tummy was about empty and the little bit of applesauce and a drink was

enough to get the pills down and satisfy him for the next hour before his snack

or dinner.

>

> If you see tiredness or flu type symptoms, that’s usually okay. This would

be the result of the “die off†of bacteria and possibly parasites living in

the intestines. The apple pectin powder is good to give 30 minutes- to an hour

afterwards to help absorb those toxins caused by “die off†. Those symptoms

should end after the first week or two. If they seem severe, please go see the

doctor. BM’s may get loose after a few days on this and ideally so, as long as

you keep hydration up, you should be fine. They should get messy and yucky

while getting rid of the stuff that’s been clogged up in there behind the

biofilm wall.

> I do this for about 4 †" 8 weeks for a child with severe recurrent impaction.

I also do this two times a year or anytime I see bowels slowing down for more

than a week without those daily BM’s. (when I redo, it's not usually for 8

weeks though, just till I know things are moving steady again.

>

> Be sure to include probiotics once finished the protocol and a good multi

vitamin and mineral support. If you are doing vitamins, it is still good to

continue them thru the process.

>

> I am not a doctor, this is just something that has worked that I have learned

and modified while reading about it. So I am sharing this here for anyone who

wants to try it. Dr. Peta Cohen and Dr. Usman are ones that use a protocol

similar. This is how I personally used it for and it has worked time and

time again over the past 3 yrs when bowels slow down. We keep the Taurine and

bicarbonate in his diet all the time along with a host of other nutrients and

strict diet.

>

> Does your son have partial continuous seizures? I know things like measles

and encephalitis and other viral things can cause seizures mainly due to

inflammation in the brain. Many docs are prescribing Ibuprofen 300 - 400 mgs

each time now 3 times a day to hlep decrease brain inflammtion? Ideally I know

you need to rid the measles. But there are several aniti-inflammaotries being

used these days to help keep inflammtion down in the brain. Maybe you look into

that if he's not on one already.

>

>

> Some of the things that helped us with seizure activity were.. being sure not

too give him too many things that have much asparatic acid or glutamate /

glutamic acid in them, as these are excitotory amino acids, they tend to add to

risk of seziures in kids with neuro issues. We still give him oatmeal, but have

eliminated many other things high in these areas, and lowered his protein levels

to a place of tolerence. You can google good lists and cross reference what you

eat regualry and see if any are high) We don't do grains other than oats and

rice. Seems red meats needed the most adjusting, Chicken and fish were fine. No

pork, and or amazingly enough no venicien either. Also supplements like

Taurine, Selenium, B-6, folinic acid, (keeping all minerals where up to par,

magnesium is a biggie. If you are giving seizure meds, then you might want to

check out the deficiencies the med can cause. Manytime the med will work short

term then 6 months later seizure activity increases again as the med has caused

a deficiency in let say " selenium " or in Keppra's case, B-6. Deficiencies in

these can be a cause of seizures, so instead of increasing the med, add in the

nutirent that is being lowered. So amny time the med is depleting something that

it is suppose to be fixing.. ergh.. For use with Ibuprofen, we have to watch

Iron levels. they get too low. You can google most of these things to find the

deficiency caused by a med. You may have to look thru a page a too as they are

not always on top on the list when you google.

>

> I could on and on, but every case is unique, so it really takes fine tuning

and adjustment and I find www.seizuretracker.com to be great asset in helping

keep a log to idnetify what is working and what is not. You can print it out,

send it you doc etc.. this family really made a super site for those seizures,

they did this out of neccessity to try and diagnosis their own son that was

having so many seizures in a day, triggers were hard to indentify.

>

>

> I hope some of this helps. I HATE SEIZURES more than the other things. They

are horrible to watch. Because the disease our son has can have such difficult

airways as they age, we keep diastat on hand and give him this via rectal admin

within 2 minutes of him having a seizure. (of course you can't use this 3 -4

times a day, but for us it works in keeping his body and brain from losing

oxygen by shortening the time of the seizure activity. I think it has been a

good thing to have for our son.

>

> Praying you are able to get some relief and healing for your son.

>

> Patty T - Mom to

> www.caringbridge.org/md/myjesse

[Guest guest]

ok...i am goin to try and give the overview of what i did to help my son....since a couple people are interested I will post on group....

my son did not have siezures...so i dont know a whole lot a bout that but will tell what i do know about!..

my son screamed all day and all night for three and half years....he was in agony....waking up every one to three hours all night long in pain. his gut was swollen all the time...his poop was yellow paste...at one point his breath smeeled like feces....his impaction was so bad...all these symptoms...i presented to many many pediatricaains looking for help. they never acknowledged anything was wrong with him...all the extra money i had went to chiropractors ...naturopaths..chinese docters...they all took my money with no real interest in helping me.

eventually the docters accused me of starving my son this is why I dont trust docters and probably never will.

I searched for answers....fell on my face...got back up...fell on my face...

1) ANDY CUTLER CHELATION

first thing i did that helped was AC chelation....mind you I wasnt dealing with siezures and i know that changes things a bit...

according to andy cutler you can still do ac chelation...as long as siezures are under control with medication ..diet ect.

my son aat three and a half i was told by my therapist i would probably have to institutionalize him...he was so violent out of control....he screamed non stop all day and night as i said....

he hit he trew things....he went ballistic if anyone approached him....

now I know he was metal toxic....

i saw him improve on the first dose....i know people say it is hard on the gut but i dont believe you can heal a gut full of mercury and lead..

2) DIET

I cut out all grain. yes i thought i was starving him...i thought the docters were right and i was a crazy lady....but i listened to my gut...as I love my son and would not live one day without him....the docters wouldnt bat an eye on whether my son got better or not. so again i listened to my heart my gut and I prayed for Gods guidance. not what some egotistical moron told me.

my sons had severe malabsorbtion....i knew he ate all the time like a mad man...i knew he wasnt absorbing any of it..however the extra food you eat puts more pressure on a inflammed gut....so i gave smaller meals....and made him wait three hours to eat again to give gut a chance to digest....i did not let him eat huge quantitys..(because i did that for years and it got us no where.)

i got his food allergy test done! i started a food diary....introduced one food at a time....no extra spices or anything just simple steamed veggies and meats to see how he reacted....when he was really sick i would juest give him boiled veggies....for a couple days....to calm down his inflammed gut...

3)ENZYMES

enzymes with every meal...love digest spectrum.....also i used canidase for yeast issues on empty stomach three times day....and i used virastop for bacteria issues...which also worked on his thick mucoid plaque...two caps on empty stomach three times a day....gave that along with goldenseal...or other herbal antifungal/antibacterial.

i also used a homepathic bowel nososde called gaertner...which i felt was the extra push to get my sons gut to regain its life force again.....

5)CONSTIPATION

so as I said the diet was huge....i was doin castore oil packs twice a day....virastop to eat the muciod plaquue

also culturelle at night helped hugely get the muciod layers coming out....this was all together i believe one wouldnt work with out the others....

then i added pyslium only one teaspoon in applesauce in morning hour after virastop and herbs.....

eureka.....I was able to save his colon ...no thanks to anyone but God....and my willingness to never give up...

there is more....i am trying to write a book with more details....and of course im always learning more...

SUPPLEMENTS....well that would be a whole other couple pages but all the other things was the foundation from where everything else was built.

you can have the best supps in the world...and their is so many great ones out their but if you dont cut out the stress and inflammation from the food your kid is eating!!!!!!!!! then the supps are almost worthless....or at least wont work as good....

METALS)

there is so many diffrent ways to adress the metals.....and each method works good for diffrent people you got find what you feel comfortable with...i do believe with the right nutrition the body is always better able to detox....

you got to carefully introduce the b vitamins the minerals. amino acids are also important in detoxing metals toxins ect......slowly to see what your child can tolerate....my son can take much more supps/vitamins now then a year ago with his leaky gut and high mercury levels....

MY SON PRESENTLY)

well he is ...more on the ADHD side i havent had him tested yet but i think he wouldnt qualify as autistic anymore....he was tested a year ago at may institute....

he still has metal issues....bacteria/parasites....OCD issues....

on the good side he is not in pain anymore....and that is the best blessing of all.....he sleeps thru the night..

his tummy gets bloated if i go off his diet which i am guitly of doin last couple weeks!

i am trying to get back on his strict diet again which WORKS for us...

he is on goldenseal for two weeks....lauricidin...fullers earth at night one teaspoon...(couldnt do with leaky gut)

virastop protocol....yes we still gut biofilm....

fresah juiced cabbage,carrots,and low ox greens.....(abbage is high in sulpur some kids dont do well on)

lots of veggie soups and the beans my son does well on ..fish....eggs.....

wanting to get some raw whey for protien drink....

that is all from i can think of now sure i missed a lot.....anything else i can share to help anyone at all...please just ask.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:52 AMSubject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Hello channa,

I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation

go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.

thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

>

[Guest guest]

oh also just wanted to FYI about the GAPS diet...which I think is awesome....however my son was severly allergic to coconut....this wasnt on his allergy test but from me doin careful journaling....

so i had to alter the GPAS diet according to what was best for my son....

if I were you i would get that allergy test pronto ....

are you sure the supps maybe are not makin him worse? that is also something to look into...in the begginning my son couldnt tolerate much of everything...i worked on his diet first then introduced the supps one by one..

again i dont know much about siezures....but if have you tried valerian?

of course if you are on meds you have to make sure it is safe to give anything else with the drug your taking..

just some more ideas

chana

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:52 AMSubject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Hello channa,

I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation

go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.

thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

>

[Guest guest]

PATTY,

thanks so much i will be printing and trying to follow this. In answer to your qu about the seizures he started off after the mmr invaccination with 8 aday myoclonics now 6 years later they are drops and myoclonics and tonic clonics at times. the Dan protocol has not helped from the point of view of seizures. the taurine that i at one point started on this protocol seemed at the time to cause more seizures so i stopped it. he is on magnesium, b6, oxypowder,zinc, moducare[for

immunity]biocidin drops,vit d, vit c vit b12. shortly i will put him on the antiviral for his high measles titers so maybe as u say this is responsible for brain inflammation and seizures. it is v interewstingh to hear about use of brufen. yes i also found oil of oregano caused seizures. his seizures can vary between good and bad days a good being only 5 seizures a day a bad being double that or more.

the diet really troubles me i have him on SCD and gaps BUT I FEEL HE IS NOT PICKING UP WEIGHT AND THAT he needs some form of grain but i fear for tyhe effect this could have on his already bad tummy and constipation. he has veggies in variety topped with mct oil fish and chicken and pulses and some almond flour pancakes or cakes.

do you think trying the imunovir first then changing the diet as i feel i cant make both changes at once? thks again tahira

Subject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help plsTo: mb12valtrex Date: Saturday, 17 December, 2011, 21:56

Patty,GREAT POST!!!It has officially joined my spreadsheet of greatest posts that I like to keep track of!Blessings,Rita>> > > > Tahira, > My son was severely constipated when he was 13 yrs old. After 3 months of trying everything that is suppose to prevent constipation and then another 2 months of doing ememas evey other night in conjuntion with all other things like diet, stool softners, raisn pastes, prune juice, etc.. you name we tried it I think. I finally tried the biofilm protocol in a slightly modified version. I did this 2 x a day for eight weeks and still use it anytime his BM's try to slow down. I used Peta Cohen version basically with the aniti fungals,

bacterials that I know work okay on my son, as he too has seizures. ( I cannot use Olive leaf extract as it casues a seizure everytime for him) (also constipation will cause my son seizures) Seizures...that is whole other situation. I don't know how much you've tried in diet and supplements ot control them, but we gone form 3-4 seizures in a day 1 -2 x monthly to one siezure about every 3-4 months now and we don't use a seizure med. It's took about 6 months to find the right comboination and another 6 months to basically perfect it to where we are now.> > Here's basically how I do the BIofilm for my son that has fixed our constiaption issues. > > Biofilm Protocol> > I like to start with cleaning out the intestines as much as possible before starting the protocol with an enema and or laxative. Supplements you will need before starting:> > Enzymes: at least 2 of these: > Nattokinase>

Serrapetase> Lumbrokinase ) I preferred Nattio and Lumbro)> > You will also need some organic Cleanser for the Liver, Colon, etc. > Ones I like are :> The Cleaner by Century Systems. They have 7 day and 14 day and they have them for Men and or Women. I prefer a 14 day, this has supporting probiotic and stomach protectors as well. > Herbal Guard by Yerba Prima > or you can use individual herbs, but I like the first two products a lot. (after protocol, I use the four below quite often for maintence.) > Oregano Oil (capsule)> Golden Seal> Green Black Walnut hull (oil)> De Arco (oil) > > Taurine capsules or powder- important for motility and bile production 500mg â€" 2,000 mgs per. Over 500mg divide into two doses daily. > > Bicarbonate water (ie: Pierre, QuZac etc,) > > Apple Pectin powder capsules or powder> > In the

morning upon wakening give 2 enzymes along with the Cleanser. (Ideally the enzymes 30 minutes prior to the cleanser, but we found it will still work if given together if time is very limited) We use applesauce to get the capsules down and about 4 â€" 6 ounces of fluids behind it. No food till about 45 minutes â€" 1 hour later. Then they can have their normal breakfast along with other supplements. Taurine should be in that group. 2- 4 ounces of bicarbonate water should also be included in drinks two times a day minimally. > > Repeat this again later in the day. For us a good time was right after school as his tummy was about empty and the little bit of applesauce and a drink was enough to get the pills down and satisfy him for the next hour before his snack or dinner. > > If you see tiredness or flu type symptoms, that’s usually okay. This would be the result of the “die offâ€� of bacteria and possibly

parasites living in the intestines. The apple pectin powder is good to give 30 minutes- to an hour afterwards to help absorb those toxins caused by “die offâ€� . Those symptoms should end after the first week or two. If they seem severe, please go see the doctor. BM’s may get loose after a few days on this and ideally so, as long as you keep hydration up, you should be fine. They should get messy and yucky while getting rid of the stuff that’s been clogged up in there behind the biofilm wall. > I do this for about 4 â€" 8 weeks for a child with severe recurrent impaction. I also do this two times a year or anytime I see bowels slowing down for more than a week without those daily BM’s. (when I redo, it's not usually for 8 weeks though, just till I know things are moving steady again. > > Be sure to include probiotics once finished the protocol and a good multi vitamin and mineral support. If you

are doing vitamins, it is still good to continue them thru the process. > > I am not a doctor, this is just something that has worked that I have learned and modified while reading about it. So I am sharing this here for anyone who wants to try it. Dr. Peta Cohen and Dr. Usman are ones that use a protocol similar. This is how I personally used it for and it has worked time and time again over the past 3 yrs when bowels slow down. We keep the Taurine and bicarbonate in his diet all the time along with a host of other nutrients and strict diet. > > Does your son have partial continuous seizures? I know things like measles and encephalitis and other viral things can cause seizures mainly due to inflammation in the brain. Many docs are prescribing Ibuprofen 300 - 400 mgs each time now 3 times a day to hlep decrease brain inflammtion? Ideally I know you need to rid the measles. But there are several aniti-inflammaotries

being used these days to help keep inflammtion down in the brain. Maybe you look into that if he's not on one already. > > > Some of the things that helped us with seizure activity were.. being sure not too give him too many things that have much asparatic acid or glutamate / glutamic acid in them, as these are excitotory amino acids, they tend to add to risk of seziures in kids with neuro issues. We still give him oatmeal, but have eliminated many other things high in these areas, and lowered his protein levels to a place of tolerence. You can google good lists and cross reference what you eat regualry and see if any are high) We don't do grains other than oats and rice. Seems red meats needed the most adjusting, Chicken and fish were fine. No pork, and or amazingly enough no venicien either. Also supplements like Taurine, Selenium, B-6, folinic acid, (keeping all minerals where up to par, magnesium is a biggie. If you are giving

seizure meds, then you might want to check out the deficiencies the med can cause. Manytime the med will work short term then 6 months later seizure activity increases again as the med has caused a deficiency in let say "selenium" or in Keppra's case, B-6. Deficiencies in these can be a cause of seizures, so instead of increasing the med, add in the nutirent that is being lowered. So amny time the med is depleting something that it is suppose to be fixing.. ergh.. For use with Ibuprofen, we have to watch Iron levels. they get too low. You can google most of these things to find the deficiency caused by a med. You may have to look thru a page a too as they are not always on top on the list when you google. > > I could on and on, but every case is unique, so it really takes fine tuning and adjustment and I find www.seizuretracker.com to be great asset in helping keep a log to idnetify what is working and what is not. You can print it out,

send it you doc etc.. this family really made a super site for those seizures, they did this out of neccessity to try and diagnosis their own son that was having so many seizures in a day, triggers were hard to indentify. > > > I hope some of this helps. I HATE SEIZURES more than the other things. They are horrible to watch. Because the disease our son has can have such difficult airways as they age, we keep diastat on hand and give him this via rectal admin within 2 minutes of him having a seizure. (of course you can't use this 3 -4 times a day, but for us it works in keeping his body and brain from losing oxygen by shortening the time of the seizure activity. I think it has been a good thing to have for our son.> > Praying you are able to get some relief and healing for your son. > > Patty T - Mom to > www.caringbridge.org/md/myjesse

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Hopefully my previous post has helped, I forgot to mention also, that we keep Oxy-powder on hand and use this quite regualrly at night to help keep bowels moving also. 1-3 capsules depending on if we fed him binding foods that day about hour bfore bed with a good cup of water. (we also used it during the biofilm protocol to keep things moving) Here is a link to it. http://www.oxypowder.com/?a_aid=142306

http://oxypowderreviews.net/colon-cleansing.htm there are two ohers listed here too. We also like Culturelle as one of our proibiotics. Our sons system tends to run acidic regardles of diet. So this doe help keep yeast using it two times daily. (am and bedtime)

Have a Blessed Chirstmas or Holiday!!!

Patty T - mom to

www.caringbridge.org/md/myjesse

Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

To: mb12valtrex

Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards, >

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thanks the allergy spot test will be back soon so i will check with that also a homeo i am takingg my son too could check some of the foods and supps against his body energy as he does do that sort of thing. thks i need to check all supps and foods i suppose. Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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problem is i am out of the uk right now and havce only trienza enzymes caps with me do you think i can use those instaed of the two or three u mention? yes i use oxypowder a lot but when i stop then his bowels get slow again and seizures go up.is there also some alternative home made thing to replace the liver gut cleansers u mention ie lemon, black seed oil honey would they do? the apple pectin i dont have either what does it do? Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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