Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

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sorry about the questions Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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Also wondering, Can I use Diatomateous earth or DIATOM as a cleanser? I have had seen great reviews about this product. Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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If he responds to black seed honey oil and such, sure. I did not find any of the home remedys to work for very long. They all worked for a 3 - 5 days and then no more. That's why I went the biofilm path. I still have to revisit it a few times a year. Does he have candida or yeast issues? If so I would avoid too much lemon, it will increase it if he has problems with it. I personally use the oxy powder 5 out 7 days a week anywhere from 1-3 caspules each night. It has been the safest product I have found to keep him regular on a daily basis after the biofilm. Does he get constipated on the trienza.. if so you might looked at using the No Phenol enzyme. http://www.houston-enzymes.com/store/product.php?p=7 & c=1 My freind in Chepstow uses this too now, as she has tried everything available to her there too and has not much success in keeping BM's going without it. :-( So many things are just easy to get there I know.

Milk Thistle is great for liver, also NAC, but I would use NAC with cauiton. I actually would stay away from NAC with the seizures for now. If you can do some raw fruit and veggie juicing, this works well for liver and gut cleansing. All juices should have approx 1/4 of whatever you juice being a cruciferrous veggie. (I find cabbage to juice better than most cruciferrous veggies, then use carrots and apples as a base to whatever else you add. (be sure not to let apple seeds get juiced, they contain arsenic) Can he do small amounts of ginger? The ginger helps the gut mover and also calms the digestion too, as well real licorice. Watch Blood pressure if you give licorice.

These are thing I can think of right off the top of my head, LOL!!!

Patty - mom to

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Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!

To: mb12valtrex

Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards, >

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ChannaSorry meant to come back to u and say thank u for posting how u helped uo son, funny how it goes read it took all the inf I can which will help us on our way and did not even thank u, thank u!!!!!Sent from my iPod

ok...i am goin to try and give the overview of what i did to help my son....since a couple people are interested I will post on group....

my son did not have siezures...so i dont know a whole lot a bout that but will tell what i do know about!..

my son screamed all day and all night for three and half years....he was in agony....waking up every one to three hours all night long in pain. his gut was swollen all the time...his poop was yellow paste...at one point his breath smeeled like feces....his impaction was so bad...all these symptoms...i presented to many many pediatricaains looking for help. they never acknowledged anything was wrong with him...all the extra money i had went to chiropractors ...naturopaths..chinese docters...they all took my money with no real interest in helping me.

eventually the docters accused me of starving my son this is why I dont trust docters and probably never will.

I searched for answers....fell on my face...got back up...fell on my face...

1) ANDY CUTLER CHELATION

first thing i did that helped was AC chelation....mind you I wasnt dealing with siezures and i know that changes things a bit...

according to andy cutler you can still do ac chelation...as long as siezures are under control with medication ..diet ect.

my son aat three and a half i was told by my therapist i would probably have to institutionalize him...he was so violent out of control....he screamed non stop all day and night as i said....

he hit he trew things....he went ballistic if anyone approached him....

now I know he was metal toxic....

i saw him improve on the first dose....i know people say it is hard on the gut but i dont believe you can heal a gut full of mercury and lead..

2) DIET

I cut out all grain. yes i thought i was starving him...i thought the docters were right and i was a crazy lady....but i listened to my gut...as I love my son and would not live one day without him....the docters wouldnt bat an eye on whether my son got better or not. so again i listened to my heart my gut and I prayed for Gods guidance. not what some egotistical moron told me.

my sons had severe malabsorbtion....i knew he ate all the time like a mad man...i knew he wasnt absorbing any of it..however the extra food you eat puts more pressure on a inflammed gut....so i gave smaller meals....and made him wait three hours to eat again to give gut a chance to digest....i did not let him eat huge quantitys..(because i did that for years and it got us no where.)

i got his food allergy test done! i started a food diary....introduced one food at a time....no extra spices or anything just simple steamed veggies and meats to see how he reacted....when he was really sick i would juest give him boiled veggies....for a couple days....to calm down his inflammed gut...

3)ENZYMES

enzymes with every meal...love digest spectrum.....also i used canidase for yeast issues on empty stomach three times day....and i used virastop for bacteria issues...which also worked on his thick mucoid plaque...two caps on empty stomach three times a day....gave that along with goldenseal...or other herbal antifungal/antibacterial.

i also used a homepathic bowel nososde called gaertner...which i felt was the extra push to get my sons gut to regain its life force again.....

5)CONSTIPATION

so as I said the diet was huge....i was doin castore oil packs twice a day....virastop to eat the muciod plaquue

also culturelle at night helped hugely get the muciod layers coming out....this was all together i believe one wouldnt work with out the others....

then i added pyslium only one teaspoon in applesauce in morning hour after virastop and herbs.....

eureka.....I was able to save his colon ...no thanks to anyone but God....and my willingness to never give up...

there is more....i am trying to write a book with more details....and of course im always learning more...

SUPPLEMENTS....well that would be a whole other couple pages but all the other things was the foundation from where everything else was built.

you can have the best supps in the world...and their is so many great ones out their but if you dont cut out the stress and inflammation from the food your kid is eating!!!!!!!!! then the supps are almost worthless....or at least wont work as good....

METALS)

there is so many diffrent ways to adress the metals.....and each method works good for diffrent people you got find what you feel comfortable with...i do believe with the right nutrition the body is always better able to detox....

you got to carefully introduce the b vitamins the minerals. amino acids are also important in detoxing metals toxins ect......slowly to see what your child can tolerate....my son can take much more supps/vitamins now then a year ago with his leaky gut and high mercury levels....

MY SON PRESENTLY)

well he is ...more on the ADHD side i havent had him tested yet but i think he wouldnt qualify as autistic anymore....he was tested a year ago at may institute....

he still has metal issues....bacteria/parasites....OCD issues....

on the good side he is not in pain anymore....and that is the best blessing of all.....he sleeps thru the night..

his tummy gets bloated if i go off his diet which i am guitly of doin last couple weeks!

i am trying to get back on his strict diet again which WORKS for us...

he is on goldenseal for two weeks....lauricidin...fullers earth at night one teaspoon...(couldnt do with leaky gut)

virastop protocol....yes we still gut biofilm....

fresah juiced cabbage,carrots,and low ox greens.....(abbage is high in sulpur some kids dont do well on)

lots of veggie soups and the beans my son does well on ..fish....eggs.....

wanting to get some raw whey for protien drink....

that is all from i can think of now sure i missed a lot.....anything else i can share to help anyone at all...please just ask.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:52 AMSubject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Hello channa,

I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation

go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.

thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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I want so much to share my story with as many people as possible....because that is how I am able to accept better why we had to go thru it all....at least i feel like our suffering had a purpose, if I can say I helped out one other kid...

also i forgot a couple things.......

I used sennakot every three days and had to give enemas as well to have any bowel movements...his colon was completely paralyzed at one point.

but again! sennakot and the other stuff would not work without strict diet ect....

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:10 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Channa

Sorry meant to come back to u and say thank u for posting how u helped uo son, funny how it goes read it took all the inf I can which will help us on our way and did not even thank u, thank u!!!!!

Sent from my iPod

ok...i am goin to try and give the overview of what i did to help my son....since a couple people are interested I will post on group....

my son did not have siezures...so i dont know a whole lot a bout that but will tell what i do know about!..

my son screamed all day and all night for three and half years....he was in agony....waking up every one to three hours all night long in pain. his gut was swollen all the time...his poop was yellow paste...at one point his breath smeeled like feces....his impaction was so bad...all these symptoms...i presented to many many pediatricaains looking for help. they never acknowledged anything was wrong with him...all the extra money i had went to chiropractors ...naturopaths..chinese docters...they all took my money with no real interest in helping me.

eventually the docters accused me of starving my son this is why I dont trust docters and probably never will.

I searched for answers....fell on my face...got back up...fell on my face...

1) ANDY CUTLER CHELATION

first thing i did that helped was AC chelation....mind you I wasnt dealing with siezures and i know that changes things a bit...

according to andy cutler you can still do ac chelation...as long as siezures are under control with medication ..diet ect.

my son aat three and a half i was told by my therapist i would probably have to institutionalize him...he was so violent out of control....he screamed non stop all day and night as i said....

he hit he trew things....he went ballistic if anyone approached him....

now I know he was metal toxic....

i saw him improve on the first dose....i know people say it is hard on the gut but i dont believe you can heal a gut full of mercury and lead..

2) DIET

I cut out all grain. yes i thought i was starving him...i thought the docters were right and i was a crazy lady....but i listened to my gut...as I love my son and would not live one day without him....the docters wouldnt bat an eye on whether my son got better or not. so again i listened to my heart my gut and I prayed for Gods guidance. not what some egotistical moron told me.

my sons had severe malabsorbtion....i knew he ate all the time like a mad man...i knew he wasnt absorbing any of it..however the extra food you eat puts more pressure on a inflammed gut....so i gave smaller meals....and made him wait three hours to eat again to give gut a chance to digest....i did not let him eat huge quantitys..(because i did that for years and it got us no where.)

i got his food allergy test done! i started a food diary....introduced one food at a time....no extra spices or anything just simple steamed veggies and meats to see how he reacted....when he was really sick i would juest give him boiled veggies....for a couple days....to calm down his inflammed gut...

3)ENZYMES

enzymes with every meal...love digest spectrum.....also i used canidase for yeast issues on empty stomach three times day....and i used virastop for bacteria issues...which also worked on his thick mucoid plaque...two caps on empty stomach three times a day....gave that along with goldenseal...or other herbal antifungal/antibacterial.

i also used a homepathic bowel nososde called gaertner...which i felt was the extra push to get my sons gut to regain its life force again.....

5)CONSTIPATION

so as I said the diet was huge....i was doin castore oil packs twice a day....virastop to eat the muciod plaquue

also culturelle at night helped hugely get the muciod layers coming out....this was all together i believe one wouldnt work with out the others....

then i added pyslium only one teaspoon in applesauce in morning hour after virastop and herbs.....

eureka.....I was able to save his colon ...no thanks to anyone but God....and my willingness to never give up...

there is more....i am trying to write a book with more details....and of course im always learning more...

SUPPLEMENTS....well that would be a whole other couple pages but all the other things was the foundation from where everything else was built.

you can have the best supps in the world...and their is so many great ones out their but if you dont cut out the stress and inflammation from the food your kid is eating!!!!!!!!! then the supps are almost worthless....or at least wont work as good....

METALS)

there is so many diffrent ways to adress the metals.....and each method works good for diffrent people you got find what you feel comfortable with...i do believe with the right nutrition the body is always better able to detox....

you got to carefully introduce the b vitamins the minerals. amino acids are also important in detoxing metals toxins ect......slowly to see what your child can tolerate....my son can take much more supps/vitamins now then a year ago with his leaky gut and high mercury levels....

MY SON PRESENTLY)

well he is ...more on the ADHD side i havent had him tested yet but i think he wouldnt qualify as autistic anymore....he was tested a year ago at may institute....

he still has metal issues....bacteria/parasites....OCD issues....

on the good side he is not in pain anymore....and that is the best blessing of all.....he sleeps thru the night..

his tummy gets bloated if i go off his diet which i am guitly of doin last couple weeks!

i am trying to get back on his strict diet again which WORKS for us...

he is on goldenseal for two weeks....lauricidin...fullers earth at night one teaspoon...(couldnt do with leaky gut)

virastop protocol....yes we still gut biofilm....

fresah juiced cabbage,carrots,and low ox greens.....(abbage is high in sulpur some kids dont do well on)

lots of veggie soups and the beans my son does well on ..fish....eggs.....

wanting to get some raw whey for protien drink....

that is all from i can think of now sure i missed a lot.....anything else i can share to help anyone at all...please just ask.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:52 AMSubject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Hello channa,

I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation

go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.

thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

>

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Hi channa just wondering about the homeopathic nosode how long and what potency did you use. Just here in crack up mode sweeping up the bread my son has shredded all over the house ,its his newest thing I am thinking streph flare but to be honest only guessing. Thanks for all your advice without this group and my friend caroline I would be gone mad long agoLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:46:11 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls I want so much to share my story with as many people as possible....because that is how I am able to accept better why we had to go thru it all....at least i feel like our suffering had a purpose, if I can say I helped out one other kid...also i forgot a couple things....... I used sennakot every three days and had to give enemas as well to have any bowel movements...his colon was completely paralyzed at one point.but again! sennakot and the other stuff would not work without strict diet ect....To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:10 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls ChannaSorry meant to come back to u and say thank u for posting how u helped uo son, funny how it goes read it took all the inf I can which will help us on our way and did not even thank u, thank u!!!!!Sent from my iPod ok...i am goin to try and give the overview of what i did to help my son....since a couple people are interested I will post on group.... my son did not have siezures...so i dont know a whole lot a bout that but will tell what i do know about!.. my son screamed all day and all night for three and half years....he was in agony....waking up every one to three hours all night long in pain. his gut was swollen all the time...his poop was yellow paste...at one point his breath smeeled like feces....his impaction was so bad...all these symptoms...i presented to many many pediatricaains looking for help. they never acknowledged anything was wrong with him...all the extra money i had went to chiropractors ...naturopaths..chinese docters...they all took my money with no real interest in helping me.eventually the docters accused me of starving my son this is why I dont trust docters and probably never will. I searched for answers....fell on my face...got back up...fell on my face...1) ANDY CUTLER CHELATIONfirst thing i did that helped was AC chelation....mind you I wasnt dealing with siezures and i know that changes things a bit...according to andy cutler you can still do ac chelation...as long as siezures are under control with medication ..diet ect.my son aat three and a half i was told by my therapist i would probably have to institutionalize him...he was so violent out of control....he screamed non stop all day and night as i said....he hit he trew things....he went ballistic if anyone approached him....now I know he was metal toxic....i saw him improve on the first dose....i know people say it is hard on the gut but i dont believe you can heal a gut full of mercury and lead..2) DIETI cut out all grain. yes i thought i was starving him...i thought the docters were right and i was a crazy lady....but i listened to my gut...as I love my son and would not live one day without him....the docters wouldnt bat an eye on whether my son got better or not. so again i listened to my heart my gut and I prayed for Gods guidance. not what some egotistical moron told me.my sons had severe malabsorbtion....i knew he ate all the time like a mad man...i knew he wasnt absorbing any of it..however the extra food you eat puts more pressure on a inflammed gut....so i gave smaller meals....and made him wait three hours to eat again to give gut a chance to digest....i did not let him eat huge quantitys..(because i did that for years and it got us no where.)i got his food allergy test done! i started a food diary....introduced one food at a time....no extra spices or anything just simple steamed veggies and meats to see how he reacted....when he was really sick i would juest give him boiled veggies....for a couple days....to calm down his inflammed gut...3)ENZYMESenzymes with every meal...love digest spectrum.....also i used canidase for yeast issues on empty stomach three times day....and i used virastop for bacteria issues...which also worked on his thick mucoid plaque...two caps on empty stomach three times a day....gave that along with goldenseal...or other herbal antifungal/antibacterial. i also used a homepathic bowel nososde called gaertner...which i felt was the extra push to get my sons gut to regain its life force again.....5)CONSTIPATIONso as I said the diet was huge....i was doin castore oil packs twice a day....virastop to eat the muciod plaquuealso culturelle at night helped hugely get the muciod layers coming out....this was all together i believe one wouldnt work with out the others....then i added pyslium only one teaspoon in applesauce in morning hour after virastop and herbs.....eureka.....I was able to save his colon ...no thanks to anyone but God....and my willingness to never give up...there is more....i am trying to write a book with more details....and of course im always learning more...SUPPLEMENTS....well that would be a whole other couple pages but all the other things was the foundation from where everything else was built.you can have the best supps in the world...and their is so many great ones out their but if you dont cut out the stress and inflammation from the food your kid is eating!!!!!!!!! then the supps are almost worthless....or at least wont work as good....METALS)there is so many diffrent ways to adress the metals.....and each method works good for diffrent people you got find what you feel comfortable with...i do believe with the right nutrition the body is always better able to detox....you got to carefully introduce the b vitamins the minerals. amino acids are also important in detoxing metals toxins ect......slowly to see what your child can tolerate....my son can take much more supps/vitamins now then a year ago with his leaky gut and high mercury levels.... MY SON PRESENTLY)well he is ...more on the ADHD side i havent had him tested yet but i think he wouldnt qualify as autistic anymore....he was tested a year ago at may institute....he still has metal issues....bacteria/parasites....OCD issues....on the good side he is not in pain anymore....and that is the best blessing of all.....he sleeps thru the night..his tummy gets bloated if i go off his diet which i am guitly of doin last couple weeks!i am trying to get back on his strict diet again which WORKS for us...he is on goldenseal for two weeks....lauricidin...fullers earth at night one teaspoon...(couldnt do with leaky gut)virastop protocol....yes we still gut biofilm....fresah juiced cabbage,carrots,and low ox greens.....(abbage is high in sulpur some kids dont do well on)lots of veggie soups and the beans my son does well on ..fish....eggs.....wanting to get some raw whey for protien drink....that is all from i can think of now sure i missed a lot.....anything else i can share to help anyone at all...please just ask.channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:52 AMSubject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls Hello channa, I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08 Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,>

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I used one dose of gaertner 200c and a month later did another 200c dose....theri are other bowel nosodes but i felt this one fit my son the best....i also felt it was the push to get his life force back moving again...

but check out all the bowel nosodes..see if their is one that fits better...

i can relate to cracking up...i do it all the time as everyone on this group can attest to

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:52 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Hi channa just wondering about the homeopathic nosode how long and what potency did you use. Just here in crack up mode sweeping up the bread my son has shredded all over the house ,its his newest thing I am thinking streph flare but to be honest only guessing. Thanks for all your advice without this group and my friend caroline I would be gone mad long ago

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I want so much to share my story with as many people as possible....because that is how I am able to accept better why we had to go thru it all....at least i feel like our suffering had a purpose, if I can say I helped out one other kid...

also i forgot a couple things.......

I used sennakot every three days and had to give enemas as well to have any bowel movements...his colon was completely paralyzed at one point.

but again! sennakot and the other stuff would not work without strict diet ect....

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:10 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Channa

Sorry meant to come back to u and say thank u for posting how u helped uo son, funny how it goes read it took all the inf I can which will help us on our way and did not even thank u, thank u!!!!!

Sent from my iPod

ok...i am goin to try and give the overview of what i did to help my son....since a couple people are interested I will post on group....

my son did not have siezures...so i dont know a whole lot a bout that but will tell what i do know about!..

my son screamed all day and all night for three and half years....he was in agony....waking up every one to three hours all night long in pain. his gut was swollen all the time...his poop was yellow paste...at one point his breath smeeled like feces....his impaction was so bad...all these symptoms...i presented to many many pediatricaains looking for help. they never acknowledged anything was wrong with him...all the extra money i had went to chiropractors ...naturopaths..chinese docters...they all took my money with no real interest in helping me.

eventually the docters accused me of starving my son this is why I dont trust docters and probably never will.

I searched for answers....fell on my face...got back up...fell on my face...

1) ANDY CUTLER CHELATION

first thing i did that helped was AC chelation....mind you I wasnt dealing with siezures and i know that changes things a bit...

according to andy cutler you can still do ac chelation...as long as siezures are under control with medication ..diet ect.

my son aat three and a half i was told by my therapist i would probably have to institutionalize him...he was so violent out of control....he screamed non stop all day and night as i said....

he hit he trew things....he went ballistic if anyone approached him....

now I know he was metal toxic....

i saw him improve on the first dose....i know people say it is hard on the gut but i dont believe you can heal a gut full of mercury and lead..

2) DIET

I cut out all grain. yes i thought i was starving him...i thought the docters were right and i was a crazy lady....but i listened to my gut...as I love my son and would not live one day without him....the docters wouldnt bat an eye on whether my son got better or not. so again i listened to my heart my gut and I prayed for Gods guidance. not what some egotistical moron told me.

my sons had severe malabsorbtion....i knew he ate all the time like a mad man...i knew he wasnt absorbing any of it..however the extra food you eat puts more pressure on a inflammed gut....so i gave smaller meals....and made him wait three hours to eat again to give gut a chance to digest....i did not let him eat huge quantitys..(because i did that for years and it got us no where.)

i got his food allergy test done! i started a food diary....introduced one food at a time....no extra spices or anything just simple steamed veggies and meats to see how he reacted....when he was really sick i would juest give him boiled veggies....for a couple days....to calm down his inflammed gut...

3)ENZYMES

enzymes with every meal...love digest spectrum.....also i used canidase for yeast issues on empty stomach three times day....and i used virastop for bacteria issues...which also worked on his thick mucoid plaque...two caps on empty stomach three times a day....gave that along with goldenseal...or other herbal antifungal/antibacterial.

i also used a homepathic bowel nososde called gaertner...which i felt was the extra push to get my sons gut to regain its life force again.....

5)CONSTIPATION

so as I said the diet was huge....i was doin castore oil packs twice a day....virastop to eat the muciod plaquue

also culturelle at night helped hugely get the muciod layers coming out....this was all together i believe one wouldnt work with out the others....

then i added pyslium only one teaspoon in applesauce in morning hour after virastop and herbs.....

eureka.....I was able to save his colon ...no thanks to anyone but God....and my willingness to never give up...

there is more....i am trying to write a book with more details....and of course im always learning more...

SUPPLEMENTS....well that would be a whole other couple pages but all the other things was the foundation from where everything else was built.

you can have the best supps in the world...and their is so many great ones out their but if you dont cut out the stress and inflammation from the food your kid is eating!!!!!!!!! then the supps are almost worthless....or at least wont work as good....

METALS)

there is so many diffrent ways to adress the metals.....and each method works good for diffrent people you got find what you feel comfortable with...i do believe with the right nutrition the body is always better able to detox....

you got to carefully introduce the b vitamins the minerals. amino acids are also important in detoxing metals toxins ect......slowly to see what your child can tolerate....my son can take much more supps/vitamins now then a year ago with his leaky gut and high mercury levels....

MY SON PRESENTLY)

well he is ...more on the ADHD side i havent had him tested yet but i think he wouldnt qualify as autistic anymore....he was tested a year ago at may institute....

he still has metal issues....bacteria/parasites....OCD issues....

on the good side he is not in pain anymore....and that is the best blessing of all.....he sleeps thru the night..

his tummy gets bloated if i go off his diet which i am guitly of doin last couple weeks!

i am trying to get back on his strict diet again which WORKS for us...

he is on goldenseal for two weeks....lauricidin...fullers earth at night one teaspoon...(couldnt do with leaky gut)

virastop protocol....yes we still gut biofilm....

fresah juiced cabbage,carrots,and low ox greens.....(abbage is high in sulpur some kids dont do well on)

lots of veggie soups and the beans my son does well on ..fish....eggs.....

wanting to get some raw whey for protien drink....

that is all from i can think of now sure i missed a lot.....anything else i can share to help anyone at all...please just ask.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:52 AMSubject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Hello channa,

I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation

go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.

thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

>

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Good idea, also sauerkraut juice helps when constipated, ve also found raw virgin coconut oil to work, wellSent from my iPod

I want so much to share my story with as many people as possible....because that is how I am able to accept better why we had to go thru it all....at least i feel like our suffering had a purpose, if I can say I helped out one other kid...

also i forgot a couple things.......

I used sennakot every three days and had to give enemas as well to have any bowel movements...his colon was completely paralyzed at one point.

but again! sennakot and the other stuff would not work without strict diet ect....

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:10 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Channa

Sorry meant to come back to u and say thank u for posting how u helped uo son, funny how it goes read it took all the inf I can which will help us on our way and did not even thank u, thank u!!!!!

Sent from my iPod

ok...i am goin to try and give the overview of what i did to help my son....since a couple people are interested I will post on group....

my son did not have siezures...so i dont know a whole lot a bout that but will tell what i do know about!..

my son screamed all day and all night for three and half years....he was in agony....waking up every one to three hours all night long in pain. his gut was swollen all the time...his poop was yellow paste...at one point his breath smeeled like feces....his impaction was so bad...all these symptoms...i presented to many many pediatricaains looking for help. they never acknowledged anything was wrong with him...all the extra money i had went to chiropractors ...naturopaths..chinese docters...they all took my money with no real interest in helping me.

eventually the docters accused me of starving my son this is why I dont trust docters and probably never will.

I searched for answers....fell on my face...got back up...fell on my face...

1) ANDY CUTLER CHELATION

first thing i did that helped was AC chelation....mind you I wasnt dealing with siezures and i know that changes things a bit...

according to andy cutler you can still do ac chelation...as long as siezures are under control with medication ..diet ect.

my son aat three and a half i was told by my therapist i would probably have to institutionalize him...he was so violent out of control....he screamed non stop all day and night as i said....

he hit he trew things....he went ballistic if anyone approached him....

now I know he was metal toxic....

i saw him improve on the first dose....i know people say it is hard on the gut but i dont believe you can heal a gut full of mercury and lead..

2) DIET

I cut out all grain. yes i thought i was starving him...i thought the docters were right and i was a crazy lady....but i listened to my gut...as I love my son and would not live one day without him....the docters wouldnt bat an eye on whether my son got better or not. so again i listened to my heart my gut and I prayed for Gods guidance. not what some egotistical moron told me.

my sons had severe malabsorbtion....i knew he ate all the time like a mad man...i knew he wasnt absorbing any of it..however the extra food you eat puts more pressure on a inflammed gut....so i gave smaller meals....and made him wait three hours to eat again to give gut a chance to digest....i did not let him eat huge quantitys..(because i did that for years and it got us no where.)

i got his food allergy test done! i started a food diary....introduced one food at a time....no extra spices or anything just simple steamed veggies and meats to see how he reacted....when he was really sick i would juest give him boiled veggies....for a couple days....to calm down his inflammed gut...

3)ENZYMES

enzymes with every meal...love digest spectrum.....also i used canidase for yeast issues on empty stomach three times day....and i used virastop for bacteria issues...which also worked on his thick mucoid plaque...two caps on empty stomach three times a day....gave that along with goldenseal...or other herbal antifungal/antibacterial.

i also used a homepathic bowel nososde called gaertner...which i felt was the extra push to get my sons gut to regain its life force again.....

5)CONSTIPATION

so as I said the diet was huge....i was doin castore oil packs twice a day....virastop to eat the muciod plaquue

also culturelle at night helped hugely get the muciod layers coming out....this was all together i believe one wouldnt work with out the others....

then i added pyslium only one teaspoon in applesauce in morning hour after virastop and herbs.....

eureka.....I was able to save his colon ...no thanks to anyone but God....and my willingness to never give up...

there is more....i am trying to write a book with more details....and of course im always learning more...

SUPPLEMENTS....well that would be a whole other couple pages but all the other things was the foundation from where everything else was built.

you can have the best supps in the world...and their is so many great ones out their but if you dont cut out the stress and inflammation from the food your kid is eating!!!!!!!!! then the supps are almost worthless....or at least wont work as good....

METALS)

there is so many diffrent ways to adress the metals.....and each method works good for diffrent people you got find what you feel comfortable with...i do believe with the right nutrition the body is always better able to detox....

you got to carefully introduce the b vitamins the minerals. amino acids are also important in detoxing metals toxins ect......slowly to see what your child can tolerate....my son can take much more supps/vitamins now then a year ago with his leaky gut and high mercury levels....

MY SON PRESENTLY)

well he is ...more on the ADHD side i havent had him tested yet but i think he wouldnt qualify as autistic anymore....he was tested a year ago at may institute....

he still has metal issues....bacteria/parasites....OCD issues....

on the good side he is not in pain anymore....and that is the best blessing of all.....he sleeps thru the night..

his tummy gets bloated if i go off his diet which i am guitly of doin last couple weeks!

i am trying to get back on his strict diet again which WORKS for us...

he is on goldenseal for two weeks....lauricidin...fullers earth at night one teaspoon...(couldnt do with leaky gut)

virastop protocol....yes we still gut biofilm....

fresah juiced cabbage,carrots,and low ox greens.....(abbage is high in sulpur some kids dont do well on)

lots of veggie soups and the beans my son does well on ..fish....eggs.....

wanting to get some raw whey for protien drink....

that is all from i can think of now sure i missed a lot.....anything else i can share to help anyone at all...please just ask.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:52 AMSubject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Hello channa,

I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation

go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.

thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

>

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Patty...i wanted to thank you again for your posts...i am taking many notes on what you said...very infoormative...

i read about having gall bladder issues and wanted to share some ideas...maybe you already know...but what i found helpful for gallbladder issues is believe or not lugols iodine in some ACV (apple cider vinager)

read about its action on gallbladder in gerson book....

also coffee enemas...really good to the liver and gallbladder. also read in gerson book...i did it for very short time when my son was having serious liver issues...

channa

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If he

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Hang in there !! My son used to do this too...i loved trying to pick out the little balls of playdo in the carpet! I wish i knew what made him stop. He is now doing something similar though and this has come and gone over the past year or so -- rolling his food in his hands the past few weeks....since i think his yeast and clostridia are down, i am wondering if it is parasites (but could be strep too)....just wish these body snatchers would leave us all alone!! To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:52 PM Subject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Hi channa just wondering about the homeopathic nosode how long and what potency did you use. Just here in crack up mode sweeping up the bread my son has shredded all over the house ,its his newest thing I am thinking streph flare but to be honest only guessing. Thanks for all your advice without this group and my friend caroline I would be gone mad long agoLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone

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I want so much to share my story with as many people as possible....because that is how I am able to accept better why we had to go thru it all....at least i feel like our suffering had a purpose, if I can say I helped out one other kid...

also i forgot a couple things.......

I used sennakot every three days and had to give enemas as well to have any bowel movements...his colon was completely paralyzed at one point.

but again! sennakot and the other stuff would not work without strict diet ect....

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:10 PMSubject: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Channa

Sorry meant to come back to u and say thank u for posting how u helped uo son, funny how it goes read it took all the inf I can which will help us on our way and did not even thank u, thank u!!!!!

Sent from my iPod

ok...i am goin to try and give the overview of what i did to help my son....since a couple people are interested I will post on group....

my son did not have siezures...so i dont know a whole lot a bout that but will tell what i do know about!..

my son screamed all day and all night for three and half years....he was in agony....waking up every one to three hours all night long in pain. his gut was swollen all the time...his poop was yellow paste...at one point his breath smeeled like feces....his impaction was so bad...all these symptoms...i presented to many many pediatricaains looking for help. they never acknowledged anything was wrong with him...all the extra money i had went to chiropractors ...naturopaths..chinese docters...they all took my money with no real interest in helping me.

eventually the docters accused me of starving my son this is why I dont trust docters and probably never will.

I searched for answers....fell on my face...got back up...fell on my face...

1) ANDY CUTLER CHELATION

first thing i did that helped was AC chelation....mind you I wasnt dealing with siezures and i know that changes things a bit...

according to andy cutler you can still do ac chelation...as long as siezures are under control with medication ..diet ect.

my son aat three and a half i was told by my therapist i would probably have to institutionalize him...he was so violent out of control....he screamed non stop all day and night as i said....

he hit he trew things....he went ballistic if anyone approached him....

now I know he was metal toxic....

i saw him improve on the first dose....i know people say it is hard on the gut but i dont believe you can heal a gut full of mercury and lead..

2) DIET

I cut out all grain. yes i thought i was starving him...i thought the docters were right and i was a crazy lady....but i listened to my gut...as I love my son and would not live one day without him....the docters wouldnt bat an eye on whether my son got better or not. so again i listened to my heart my gut and I prayed for Gods guidance. not what some egotistical moron told me.

my sons had severe malabsorbtion....i knew he ate all the time like a mad man...i knew he wasnt absorbing any of it..however the extra food you eat puts more pressure on a inflammed gut....so i gave smaller meals....and made him wait three hours to eat again to give gut a chance to digest....i did not let him eat huge quantitys..(because i did that for years and it got us no where.)

i got his food allergy test done! i started a food diary....introduced one food at a time....no extra spices or anything just simple steamed veggies and meats to see how he reacted....when he was really sick i would juest give him boiled veggies....for a couple days....to calm down his inflammed gut...

3)ENZYMES

enzymes with every meal...love digest spectrum.....also i used canidase for yeast issues on empty stomach three times day....and i used virastop for bacteria issues...which also worked on his thick mucoid plaque...two caps on empty stomach three times a day....gave that along with goldenseal...or other herbal antifungal/antibacterial.

i also used a homepathic bowel nososde called gaertner...which i felt was the extra push to get my sons gut to regain its life force again.....

5)CONSTIPATION

so as I said the diet was huge....i was doin castore oil packs twice a day....virastop to eat the muciod plaquue

also culturelle at night helped hugely get the muciod layers coming out....this was all together i believe one wouldnt work with out the others....

then i added pyslium only one teaspoon in applesauce in morning hour after virastop and herbs.....

eureka.....I was able to save his colon ...no thanks to anyone but God....and my willingness to never give up...

there is more....i am trying to write a book with more details....and of course im always learning more...

SUPPLEMENTS....well that would be a whole other couple pages but all the other things was the foundation from where everything else was built.

you can have the best supps in the world...and their is so many great ones out their but if you dont cut out the stress and inflammation from the food your kid is eating!!!!!!!!! then the supps are almost worthless....or at least wont work as good....

METALS)

there is so many diffrent ways to adress the metals.....and each method works good for diffrent people you got find what you feel comfortable with...i do believe with the right nutrition the body is always better able to detox....

you got to carefully introduce the b vitamins the minerals. amino acids are also important in detoxing metals toxins ect......slowly to see what your child can tolerate....my son can take much more supps/vitamins now then a year ago with his leaky gut and high mercury levels....

MY SON PRESENTLY)

well he is ...more on the ADHD side i havent had him tested yet but i think he wouldnt qualify as autistic anymore....he was tested a year ago at may institute....

he still has metal issues....bacteria/parasites....OCD issues....

on the good side he is not in pain anymore....and that is the best blessing of all.....he sleeps thru the night..

his tummy gets bloated if i go off his diet which i am guitly of doin last couple weeks!

i am trying to get back on his strict diet again which WORKS for us...

he is on goldenseal for two weeks....lauricidin...fullers earth at night one teaspoon...(couldnt do with leaky gut)

virastop protocol....yes we still gut biofilm....

fresah juiced cabbage,carrots,and low ox greens.....(abbage is high in sulpur some kids dont do well on)

lots of veggie soups and the beans my son does well on ..fish....eggs.....

wanting to get some raw whey for protien drink....

that is all from i can think of now sure i missed a lot.....anything else i can share to help anyone at all...please just ask.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:52 AMSubject: RE: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

Hello channa,

I like yourself am intersested in anything that can help. i have all the andy cutler protocol supps dmsa etc but really scared to use them due to the seizures he is having on a daily basis which are a nightmare enough for me, six years of them. my son has had constipation chronically now for also six yrs and boy have i tried to get rid of it but i feel the measles that are so high and his messed up immune system and his bad digestion just dont let the constipation

go. he has been on the GFCF,SCD and GAPS DIETS. I AM AT A LOSS NOW. i have sent away for food allergy tests t o great plains also an oats test which maybe i will get back soon next week. but he craves to have bread rice pasta i feel really cruel as he is underweight but all we give is veggies in variety and meat and fish. he is taking many supps but i am not sure how long i can go on when the seizures dont get much better, although some days they can be much better than others. do let me know what you did for constipation and seizures.

thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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Thanks Channa,

I am actually thinking about the coffee enemas. I've read a lot of good stuff about them. The ACV I've used frequently, but he doesn't tolerate it well, he gets a serious case of roscea from it being a vasodilator. All the vinegars do this him including my beloved Bragg's ACV. Funny thing is after numerous tests they are now saying that the polyp is not causing an issue.I beg to differ though and am going to request the HIDA scan so we can watch his digestion in action. Liver and spleen are always with our kids from birth onward. It's the first major area of storage. I've been to keep 's in pretty good shape with only mildly elevated ALT's and AST's compared to many. We use Milk Thistle and NAC and I do cleanses on a quarterly basis. So that helps a lot with maintance.

I'll keep you posted shouild I do the coffee enema's

Thanks again,

Patty T- mom to

www.caringbridge.org/md/myjesse

Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls

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hello, what i w ant to know is what can high measles titers do to the gut and brain any ideas? thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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turmeric is great for liver cleanser and does all sorts of wonderful things. Increases bile and helps with digestion of food. It has been a mainstay for us for 3 years. 1/8 tsp a day for a 40 lb boy. Non irradiated organic turmeric, can be mixed into juice.Have you dewormed? Parasites, tapeworm in particular will slow the bowels and cause constipation. Oxypowder oxygenates the intestines. Tapeworms hate oxygenated environments. The toxin they excrete can also cause seizures. Magnesium also helps with constipation. You may need to up the dose. fibre and is an ingredient in Metamucil.Apple pectin is a binder and adds fibre to the intestines. Psyllium husk is also problem is i am out of the uk right now and havce only trienza enzymes caps with me do you think i can use those instaed of the two or three u mention? yes i use oxypowder a lot but when i stop then his bowels get slow again and seizures go up.is there also some alternative home made thing to replace the liver gut cleansers u mention ie lemon, black seed oil honey would they do? the apple pectin i dont have either what does it do? Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08 Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards, >

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What kind of deworming are you talking about ? Herbal or prescription meds?

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> > Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a

> > month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on

> > another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > >

> > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and

> > aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > >

> > > Best regards, >

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thanks for this post , yes i do use tumeric but not sure if he would take in in a drink mixed with juice, right now only put in food. yes i will try pysliium husl i thoughtv they would not work for gluten free but they do. thks for that. for deworming i am cautiously trying to look at diatom food grade that i have , any idea if this is good for deworming? thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08

Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards,

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Herbal. Herbal is broad spectrum and will get anything else that is lurking. You can bet if you have one parasite there a usually others that also find home in the accommodating host.We have used Paragone. You should treat every member of the family.You take it two weeks on and two weeks off. Then repeat. We did this for 8 months. Along the way many different parasites came out. We had liver flukes and roundworms, also some really dry fossilized looking poop that was so very hard. We also had segments of tapeworm coming out as we weakened the beast. Finally we had one bowel movement that was 50% tapeworm, and that was followed by another purging something that looked like small jelly fish. We came to realize we a tapeworm problem after I gave him some aloe vera juice to treat his really bad constipation. His poops resembled small round dark black/brown goat poops. A couple of 1 ounce servings of aloe vera juice and he had a severe bout of diarrhea. Very stinky! yellow diarrhea. He was 3 1/2 and in diapers so I changed him. Then 5 minutes later I could smell it again. Opened up his diaper and there all by itself was a tapeworm segment. Looked like a rigatoni noodle with a lip on one edge where it connects to the next segment of the worm.That was the beginning of using Paragone and my researching tapeworms. They are rather crafty. They do not have a mouth. The have hooks that they use to move themselves along and attach to your intestines. They absorb nutrients through every inch of their body. They excrete a toxin that slows down the contractions of the intestines. This makes it easier for them to hang on to the wall of the intestines and absorb more nutrients out of the food as it passes more slowly by their bodies. As they shed segments of their body and grow new ones, the old segments breakdown inside the intestines and they also excrete neurotoxins. If the environment is good for a tapeworm it will also be a comfortable environment for other parasites as well.While using any dewormer you want to make sure you keep the bowels moving. We also used oxypowder. It oxygenates the intestines and parasites don't like high oxygen environments. Psyllium husk was another mainstay. It provides fiber that bulks up the stool and makes the intestines work better. It can be found in Metamucil, but I bought it bulk from the health food store and added it to smoothies and whatever I was spreading on his toast. Aloe vera juice is great for constipation, as was prune juice. Ale vera juice changes the PH of the intestines and helps heal and reduce inflammation. It creates an unfriendly environment for the parasites and helps weaken them so you have a better chance of killing them off. There were times we had to use all of these things at the same time to keep his bowels moving. That is key here. If he is not excreting the dead worms they will break down and cause a flood of neurotoxins in the intestines. Not what you want to happen.In addition to the Paragone we used bromelain to help breakdown the outer layers of the parasites. Turmeric was also on board. It helped with bile production, (which is also decreased by tapeworm toxins) and helped clear liver flukes. It does all sorts of wonderful stuff and is antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral, and antiinflammatory. Olive leaf extract was also on board. It is useful for almost everything that ails you. It is a wonderful antifungal, antiviral, antibacterial, and antiinflammatory. It is useful against tapeworm, HHV6, chicken pox, etc. Do some research on it and you will be amazed at what you find. We also used grapefruit seed extract. My son still had cradle cap at the age of 3 1/2. After starting him on these supplements in addition to treating the parasites the cradle cap went away and never returned. I still use Turmeric to this day and his poops are normal.It has been 3 years since we tackled the parasites and recently we used Hulda e's parasite treatment for a follow up. I have had a rash on my hands since before my son was born. My doctor has given me an antifungal and hydrocortisone cream which always got rid of it temporarily, but it would come back everytime. Very painful as it would blister and ooze and crack the skin as it dried up. Since taking the Hulda e parasite treatment the rash is gone and it has not come back. It is absolutely phenomenal. I had this rash since 1997 (which disappeared while I was pregnant with my son, but then returned after he was born) and it is now completely gone. It has been gone longer than any time before (other than when I was pregnant) and hope this is permanent dealt with.I also recently learned that seizures can be set off by the flicker rate of fluorescent lighting. So you may want to track how many seizures occur in a room with fluorescent lighting. I have also been told the full spectrum light does not have the same effect and can be used in place of the regular fluorescent tubes.Hope you find this useful What kind of deworming are you talking about ? Herbal or prescription meds? is > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous > > Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a > > month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on > > another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and > > aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > >

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we never used diatomaceous clay so can't say if it works for deworming. I have heard it is good for mopping up die off, but never used it myself. thanks for this post , yes i do use tumeric but not sure if he would take in in a drink mixed with juice, right now only put in food. yes i will try pysliium husl i thoughtv they would not work for gluten free but they do. thks for that. for deworming i am cautiously trying to look at diatom food grade that i have , any idea if this is good for deworming? thks tahira Subject: Re: DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.....To you awesome warrior Moms...I really need a physician referral in lakeland, Florida or nearby!!!To: mb12valtrex Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 15:08 Yes, right, absolutely Channa. Thanks for this reminder!! I recall now looking and thinking that our microsilica is such a great binder for us- that not only would the d. clay help with the parasites but the silica would help bind so would be a net increase in metals detox. Sometimes I think we share a brain :). So my only remaining edgy concern is that if a person has significant intestinal permeability still, this would get into the bloodstream. Which may not be a problem, but worries me. We are past that stage of recovery generally so I am thinking of doing a month on glutamine powder, histame or other enzyme that neutralizes histamines (Digest Spectrum?) to be sure we're not getting the vasoconstricting effects of allergic reaction so much, and then hitting the d. clay while staying on these. Hmmm. > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > Best regards, >

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Forgot to mention that it is very important to drink lots of water to help clear the intestines and keep the body hydrated. Begin forwarded message:Date: December 20, 2011 7:57:19 AM PSTTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Re: .Can anyone on this forum help pls Herbal. Herbal is broad spectrum and will get anything else that is lurking. You can bet if you have one parasite there a usually others that also find home in the accommodating host.We have used Paragone. You should treat every member of the family.You take it two weeks on and two weeks off. Then repeat. We did this for 8 months. Along the way many different parasites came out. We had liver flukes and roundworms, also some really dry fossilized looking poop that was so very hard. We also had segments of tapeworm coming out as we weakened the beast. Finally we had one bowel movement that was 50% tapeworm, and that was followed by another purging something that looked like small jelly fish. We came to realize we a tapeworm problem after I gave him some aloe vera juice to treat his really bad constipation. His poops resembled small round dark black/brown goat poops. A couple of 1 ounce servings of aloe vera juice and he had a severe bout of diarrhea. Very stinky! yellow diarrhea. He was 3 1/2 and in diapers so I changed him. Then 5 minutes later I could smell it again. Opened up his diaper and there all by itself was a tapeworm segment. Looked like a rigatoni noodle with a lip on one edge where it connects to the next segment of the worm.That was the beginning of using Paragone and my researching tapeworms. They are rather crafty. They do not have a mouth. The have hooks that they use to move themselves along and attach to your intestines. They absorb nutrients through every inch of their body. They excrete a toxin that slows down the contractions of the intestines. This makes it easier for them to hang on to the wall of the intestines and absorb more nutrients out of the food as it passes more slowly by their bodies. As they shed segments of their body and grow new ones, the old segments breakdown inside the intestines and they also excrete neurotoxins. If the environment is good for a tapeworm it will also be a comfortable environment for other parasites as well.While using any dewormer you want to make sure you keep the bowels moving. We also used oxypowder. It oxygenates the intestines and parasites don't like high oxygen environments. Psyllium husk was another mainstay. It provides fiber that bulks up the stool and makes the intestines work better. It can be found in Metamucil, but I bought it bulk from the health food store and added it to smoothies and whatever I was spreading on his toast. Aloe vera juice is great for constipation, as was prune juice. Ale vera juice changes the PH of the intestines and helps heal and reduce inflammation. It creates an unfriendly environment for the parasites and helps weaken them so you have a better chance of killing them off. There were times we had to use all of these things at the same time to keep his bowels moving. That is key here. If he is not excreting the dead worms they will break down and cause a flood of neurotoxins in the intestines. Not what you want to happen.In addition to the Paragone we used bromelain to help breakdown the outer layers of the parasites. Turmeric was also on board. It helped with bile production, (which is also decreased by tapeworm toxins) and helped clear liver flukes. It does all sorts of wonderful stuff and is antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral, and antiinflammatory. Olive leaf extract was also on board. It is useful for almost everything that ails you. It is a wonderful antifungal, antiviral, antibacterial, and antiinflammatory. It is useful against tapeworm, HHV6, chicken pox, etc. Do some research on it and you will be amazed at what you find. We also used grapefruit seed extract. My son still had cradle cap at the age of 3 1/2. After starting him on these supplements in addition to treating the parasites the cradle cap went away and never returned. I still use Turmeric to this day and his poops are normal.It has been 3 years since we tackled the parasites and recently we used Hulda e's parasite treatment for a follow up. I have had a rash on my hands since before my son was born. My doctor has given me an antifungal and hydrocortisone cream which always got rid of it temporarily, but it would come back everytime. Very painful as it would blister and ooze and crack the skin as it dried up. Since taking the Hulda e parasite treatment the rash is gone and it has not come back. It is absolutely phenomenal. I had this rash since 1997 (which disappeared while I was pregnant with my son, but then returned after he was born) and it is now completely gone. It has been gone longer than any time before (other than when I was pregnant) and hope this is permanent dealt with.I also recently learned that seizures can be set off by the flicker rate of fluorescent lighting. So you may want to track how many seizures occur in a room with fluorescent lighting. I have also been told the full spectrum light does not have the same effect and can be used in place of the regular fluorescent tubes.Hope you find this useful What kind of deworming are you talking about ? Herbal or prescription meds? is > > > > I have tried Diatomaceous > > Earth food grade (because of its high value of > > Silca) for a > > month until I did further research and found someone > > mention on > > another site that the levels of Aluminum are to high. > > > > > > I bought mine from earthworks and they have a mineral content and > > aluminum was on there, So I just backed off of it. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > >