Guest guest Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 hey, I wanted to mention and maybe discuss the virastop protocol. We're on round 70 of AC chelation and by accident I used virastop and sambuccol to fight a virus in my son. To my surprise, his speech exploded. soon after, about a week or so, we got a sinus infection. Treated it with zithromax and now have some visual stimming we haven't seen for a while. Thing is, he's still very vocal and interactive. I've tried my best to get in at least 3 doses of 4 caps a day, it's hard to with school and I've noticed this increases the OCD with doors (which is kind of like visual stimming). He's not out of it at all, asking questions, doing great at school, just obsessed with store doors and does it constantly (only at home, not at school). Is this the virus coming out? should I increase? I found on an old AC forum where the mom's did this with major success. we also never got the MMR, so it's not this virus...wondering how to proceed. I think we're ready to go after it, but the stimming is kinda driving me nutty. The increased speech tells me I'm on the right path. I've also been giving OLE with it. any others that are not prescription that I can rotate? does Enhansa work well? he has a coconut allergy, so I can use the MCT pellets. Elderberry is a great one, very high oxalate however. thanks! Jenib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Could the ocd be related to parasites or strep popping out?-- Sent from my Palm Pre hey, I wanted to mention and maybe discuss the virastop protocol. We're on round 70 of AC chelation and by accident I used virastop and sambuccol to fight a virus in my son. To my surprise, his speech exploded. soon after, about a week or so, we got a sinus infection. Treated it with zithromax and now have some visual stimming we haven't seen for a while. Thing is, he's still very vocal and interactive. I've tried my best to get in at least 3 doses of 4 caps a day, it's hard to with school and I've noticed this increases the OCD with doors (which is kind of like visual stimming). He's not out of it at all, asking questions, doing great at school, just obsessed with store doors and does it constantly (only at home, not at school). Is this the virus coming out? should I increase? I found on an old AC forum where the mom's did this with major success. we also never got the MMR, so it's not this virus...wondering how to proceed. I think we're ready to go after it, but the stimming is kinda driving me nutty. The increased speech tells me I'm on the right path. I've also been giving OLE with it. any others that are not prescription that I can rotate? does Enhansa work well? he has a coconut allergy, so I can use the MCT pellets. Elderberry is a great one, very high oxalate however. thanks! Jenib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 JeniB I agree w/...you've probably cycled to a bacterial layer...see it all the time around our group...parasites could very likely be in the mix...the last full moon was a tough one you may have even seen some increase in parasitic activities like some in other groups I'm on. Visual ticks...for us Zinc ( & sometimes mag) has been a biggy...I'd look @ that. What comes to me on the viral dumping to watch for is the metals dumping w/it...to back up Stan's paper on the cycling, I go back to some of the best posts I can remember from another mom that did over 40 UTM reports...she post about it in fairly big detail on both the LIA group & on the now closed Chelating2 list (this is for the old-timers as it's back in 2008...sorry it's closed to new members but I end up referring to it fairly regularly as it was a real good list). Some of the key messages from this mom whom I highly respect (she received the LIA 2010 Outstanding Mentor award with me...we were sitting together @ the conference, absolutely love this mom) posted some outstanding messages about the UTM's going significantly up as she treated the organisms (for her it was both viral & biofilm). I just tried looking up some of the messages from the other groups, if you are on either of these groups look up messages #: LIA group: whole thread starting w/Heidi message #1672 on 6/12/08 whole thread starting w/message #1724-subject: LED - Bartonella rash & bacterial biofilm/metals excretion ps LED is Laser Energetic Detox (uses lasers to detox) whole thread starting w/message #1666-includes reference back to message #1644 Message #6339 CK2: Several posts...not finding the one I really wanted...don't have time to advance search further right now...but if you have access to that group, do an advanced search using key words " limin utm detox " ....you'll find some GREAT info....we're not suppose to cross-post but knowing this mom well & knowing that many of you can not get to these messages because the group is closed, I'm going to copy 2 of her comments from the post for you that are very significant: " Reviewing all my son's UTMs and Fecal Metals reports generated when he was on LED treatments, I have found that he got the highest amount of metal excretion from treating Lyme and coinfection, second highest from cleansing vaccines, and third highest from detoxifying metals directly. " " Metals have been one of the center issues for us. But metal chelation without detoxing bacterial and viral toxins does not get us to the core. To have a successful LED intervention, all these other things we do need to be carried out and fit into their places as well. " btw...she did many, many rounds of AC chelation.... just passing some years of experience on the viral, bacterial, metal cycling. Blessings, Rita > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > > > > > > hey, I wanted to mention and maybe discuss the virastop protocol. We're on round 70 of AC chelation and by accident I used virastop and sambuccol to fight a virus in my son. To my surprise, his speech exploded. soon after, about a week or so, we got a sinus infection. Treated it with zithromax and now have some visual stimming we haven't seen for a while. Thing is, he's still very vocal and interactive. I've tried my best to get in at least 3 doses of 4 caps a day, it's hard to with school and I've noticed this increases the OCD with doors (which is kind of like visual stimming). He's not out of it at all, asking questions, doing great at school, just obsessed with store doors and does it constantly (only at home, not at school). Is this the virus coming out? should I increase? I found on an old AC forum where the mom's did this with major success. we also never got the MMR, so it's not this virus...wondering how to proceed. I think we're ready to go after it, but the stimming is kinda driving me nutty. The increased speech tells me I'm on the right path. I've also been giving OLE with it. any others that are not prescription that I can rotate? does Enhansa work well? he has a coconut allergy, so I can use the MCT pellets. Elderberry is a great one, very high oxalate however. > > > > thanks! > > Jenib > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 I was wondering about the possibility of biofilm since virastop has some serious enzymes in it. Or do you think left over die-off from the zithromax? He was not OCD until we had to use this. Could this maybe indicate lyme? We also have been treating for parasites for about 2 weeks now and I did notice the full moon. I remember Stan Kurtz mentioning the stimming increase with his viral protocol. I may not be giving it frequently enough now too. I'll go fetch some of the posts you mentioned. I was on a lyme board that I haven't been to in a while, is that the one? thanks for your help! jenib > > > > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey, I wanted to mention and maybe discuss the virastop protocol. We're on round 70 of AC chelation and by accident I used virastop and sambuccol to fight a virus in my son. To my surprise, his speech exploded. soon after, about a week or so, we got a sinus infection. Treated it with zithromax and now have some visual stimming we haven't seen for a while. Thing is, he's still very vocal and interactive. I've tried my best to get in at least 3 doses of 4 caps a day, it's hard to with school and I've noticed this increases the OCD with doors (which is kind of like visual stimming). He's not out of it at all, asking questions, doing great at school, just obsessed with store doors and does it constantly (only at home, not at school). Is this the virus coming out? should I increase? I found on an old AC forum where the mom's did this with major success. we also never got the MMR, so it's not this virus...wondering how to proceed. I think we're ready to go after it, but the stimming is kinda driving me nutty. The increased speech tells me I'm on the right path. I've also been giving OLE with it. any others that are not prescription that I can rotate? does Enhansa work well? he has a coconut allergy, so I can use the MCT pellets. Elderberry is a great one, very high oxalate however. > > > > > > > > thanks! > > > > Jenib > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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