Rita: Immusist, vit A protocol, parasites...what do do?

December 17, 2011

Hi Rita,We have just ordered the immusist so should be getting it in a couple of days. You had said you give it with the liquid supplements in a small cup and then follow with 8oz of water. We do the following in the morning with a little applesauce:-Mag citrate-vit. C-Nordic Nats Pro EFA-Vit E (liquid)-Lysine-vit K-DMG with folinic

acid-zinc-olive leaf-enhansa(COL, amino support and vit D -- once high levels come down) -- to add laterI am also giving a probiotic dose in water/juice after this and then 30min to 1 hr later citrus pectin with water/juice.So my question is, where/with what should I give the Immusist? Do i give it to him in the 8oz of water after the above mag citrate, vit C etc mix and applesause?In addition, I have some questions about vitamin A protocol for you or others. At 15 months, my son had the German Measles (about 3 months after his MMR shot). His temperature went up to about 104.9 at the highest but other than this he seemed ok. His language, however, was very slow to progress (I already saw problems though before his MMR). A few months ago we did his basic titer panels, and his Rubella titers were slightly high (2.62, greater than 1.1 is positive) and same with mumps (4.09 with greater than 1.1 positive). So this is one of his many issues but I have discussed it a little with some of his DANs and there hasn't been a real push to try the vitamin A protocol. Anyone know why? Are there risks? I think I read in the Vitamin K protocol that K kids shouldnt take the micellized vitamin A. If anyone has any advice on this and how/if we should

do it, please let me know. Apologies if this was already discussed -- i did a search and couldnt find anything in the archives.I also think my son and daughter may have parasite issues and my son has higher HHV6 titers (1:160) and off the charts mercury/other metals in his porphyrin test so I am trying to figure out what to do next.Rita, do you think I should go for the Immusist first or the high dose vitamin A protocol (after adding the CLO, amino support and a couple of other "easy" supplement changes) and then the parasites, ac chelation and finally valtrex?Any advice from you or others

would be much appreciated!!Many thanks in advance,

December 18, 2011

,

Your morn supps are all natural so I'd give them either in the applesauce or in

the water....however you can get them down...followed immediately w/the glass of

water (in the water works too).

.....we personally use a little shot size cup that we dose w/that also has our

Barleans liquid fish oils, our herbs & other liquid supps are also added to this

shot glass. He takes the shot glass, then immediately he drinks his glass of

water (which am has EmergenC in it) while taking his other pill supps while

drinking the glass. We follow that w/breakfast (or dinner).

Re the Vit A.... TOTALLY stressed on Vit A...one of the few times I had a

total negative reaction...call the doc, told her what was going on & she

immediately pulled him off...we tried it 2x, both times severe neg. reaction. At

the time our herbalist was not to happy w/us going on the VitA & told us he had

seen more liver stress than he liked for us to put him on it...we did it

anyway...then came back to him to work through what he could do for us. He

worked w/Dr Amy (we'd been through so much trying to fight his high viral stress

she was happy to work w/him )...that's when they worked together & got us on

the LDM-100...we worked it out well together & we're still on maintenence doses

today.

Of Note....Please, DO NOT use LDM-100...or any other new stuff when starting

Immusist...Please, please...in the last couple of weeks off-list I've been

having to support kids off-list in the LDM-100 rash that want to start

Immusist...please, please...don't do them back to back.

I spoke w/ Payne last week about many things (we are working on putting

together an interview w/him about it... & a couple of other things that I can

post up...cool stuff I'm trying to work out...just takes time)...he described

Immusist as a " in a class all it's own " front line product...I'm also trying to

get from him (want in his interview) some of the further/advanced research he's

done on it...cool stuff..again I'm working on behind the scenes.

Bottom line is basic supports only...let Immusist help the body take care of

what it needs to, it supports the organs, heals (including digestion...it turned

around one of the worst leaky guts our docs had seen in one of our groups kids

in 8 months to normal w/only 1 low yellow food-the rest were green)...it takes

care of some nasty viruses & bacterias, releases metals (better than the

chelators I've used & I've used many)...don't even start the binders unless

you're already on them...watch for signs then add only if needed. What ends up

happening is the body is so busy fighting all the extra stuff that it ends up no

longer needing that is slows down the healing....So If You're On good natural

stuff that is needed, stay on it & start...do not change anything else at the

time that you are starting/building up.

Immusist is by far my #1 recommendation...not starting anything else w/it...that

includes VitA, Valtrex, etc....we changed nothing except possibly adding (down

the road...only if signs showed they needed it to move along what their bodies

were cycling on...you'll see the cycles by following the clinical signs...I just

did an off-list e-mail to one of the moms I'm helping off-list...think I'll put

that up for the group too). Don't do the AC chelation right now either...as I've

said prior, w/the Immusist on board I've safely & effectively been chelating to

higher levels than I ever did w/other chelation protocols...all by improving the

immune system so the immune sytem could tackle it on it's own.

Again, Micheal says, " it's in a class by itself " ...we are not use to a product

doing so much...don't add things...except for cycling through a few things

adding on for a short time, we've been reducing our supplement list over the

long run as the body just works better...it's exciting to watch the labs ( &

children) turn around...it's not overnight guys (we're talking our WA kids are

8-12 months & still seeing gains...slow & steady w/small positive gains).

Keep us posted if you do decide to use it.

Blessings,

Rita

>

> Hi Rita,

>

> We have just ordered the immusist so should be getting it in a couple of days.

You had said you give it with the liquid supplements in a small cup and then

follow with 8oz of water. We do the following in the morning with a little

applesauce:

>

> -Mag citrate

> -vit. C

> -Nordic Nats Pro EFA

> -Vit E (liquid)

> -Lysine

> -vit K

> -DMG with folinic acid

> -zinc

> -olive leaf

> -enhansa

> (COL, amino support and vit D -- once high levels come down) -- to add later

>

> I am also giving a probiotic dose in water/juice after this and then 30min to

1 hr later citrus pectin with water/juice.

>

> So my question is, where/with what should I give the Immusist? Do i give it

to him in the 8oz of water after the above mag citrate, vit C etc mix and

applesause?

>

> In addition, I have some questions about vitamin A protocol for you or others.

At 15 months, my son had the German Measles (about 3 months after his MMR

shot). His temperature went up to about 104.9 at the highest but other than

this he seemed ok. His language, however, was very slow to progress (I already

saw problems though before his MMR). A few months ago we did his basic titer

panels, and his Rubella titers were slightly high (2.62, greater than 1.1 is

positive) and same with mumps (4.09 with greater than 1.1 positive). So this is

one of his many issues but I have discussed it a little with some of his DANs

and there hasn't been a real push to try the vitamin A protocol. Anyone know

why? Are there risks? I think I read in the Vitamin K protocol that K kids

shouldnt take the micellized vitamin A. If anyone has any advice on this and

how/if we should do it, please let me know. Apologies if this was already

discussed -- i did a

> search and couldnt find anything in the archives.

>

> I also think my son and daughter may have parasite issues and my son has

higher HHV6 titers (1:160) and off the charts mercury/other metals in his

porphyrin test so I am trying to figure out what to do next.

>

> Rita, do you think I should go for the Immusist first or the high dose vitamin

A protocol (after adding the CLO, amino support and a couple of other " easy "

supplement changes) and then the parasites, ac chelation and finally valtrex?

>

> Any advice from you or others would be much appreciated!!

>

> Many thanks in advance,

>

December 18, 2011

Hi Rita,

You are absoutely right. I started LDM-100 first, 5 days on it saw measles sort of rashes all over body,then i paused it for couple of days it disappeared. I saw some mild good changes in those 5 days. Mom0 metre said i must continue, started again on LDM-100 with a lower dos my daughter was sich like anything non-stop vomiting, tummy pain.

I stopped LDM-100 to get her back to normalcy. I Started IMMUSIST we are more than 2 weeks on it now, we saw her verbal stimming reduced, she stopped complaining tummy pain which started with LDM.

1 week back i started LDM-100 again with 1 drop a day she was fine but since couple of days i gave her 1 drop 2 x a day which made her sick again(vomiting).

Either this is working on the deep rooted infections or her body can't tolerate?. I somewhere strongly feel IMMUSIST and LDM-100 should work better together but when to add LDM-100 and what dosage is very important.

I would like to ask you Rita lookin at my daughters example can you please explain What is really happening when LDM-100 is added. Or in your opinion LDM-100 is not required IMMUSIST will do its job? Please Advice.

Many thanks,

Sindhu

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011, 8:09Subject: Re: Rita: Immusist, vit A protocol, parasites...what do do?

,Your morn supps are all natural so I'd give them either in the applesauce or in the water....however you can get them down...followed immediately w/the glass of water (in the water works too).....we personally use a little shot size cup that we dose w/that also has our Barleans liquid fish oils, our herbs & other liquid supps are also added to this shot glass. He takes the shot glass, then immediately he drinks his glass of water (which am has EmergenC in it) while taking his other pill supps while drinking the glass. We follow that w/breakfast (or dinner).Re the Vit A.... TOTALLY stressed on Vit A...one of the few times I had a total negative reaction...call the doc, told her what was going on & she immediately pulled him off...we tried it 2x, both times severe neg. reaction. At the time our herbalist was not to happy w/us going on the VitA & told us he had seen more liver stress than he liked for us to put

him on it...we did it anyway...then came back to him to work through what he could do for us. He worked w/Dr Amy (we'd been through so much trying to fight his high viral stress she was happy to work w/him )...that's when they worked together & got us on the LDM-100...we worked it out well together & we're still on maintenence doses today.Of Note....Please, DO NOT use LDM-100...or any other new stuff when starting Immusist...Please, please...in the last couple of weeks off-list I've been having to support kids off-list in the LDM-100 rash that want to start Immusist...please, please...don't do them back to back.I spoke w/ Payne last week about many things (we are working on putting together an interview w/him about it... & a couple of other things that I can post up...cool stuff I'm trying to work out...just takes time)...he described Immusist as a "in a class all it's own" front line product...I'm also trying to get from him

(want in his interview) some of the further/advanced research he's done on it...cool stuff..again I'm working on behind the scenes. Bottom line is basic supports only...let Immusist help the body take care of what it needs to, it supports the organs, heals (including digestion...it turned around one of the worst leaky guts our docs had seen in one of our groups kids in 8 months to normal w/only 1 low yellow food-the rest were green)...it takes care of some nasty viruses & bacterias, releases metals (better than the chelators I've used & I've used many)...don't even start the binders unless you're already on them...watch for signs then add only if needed. What ends up happening is the body is so busy fighting all the extra stuff that it ends up no longer needing that is slows down the healing....So If You're On good natural stuff that is needed, stay on it & start...do not change anything else at the time that you are starting/building

up.Immusist is by far my #1 recommendation...not starting anything else w/it...that includes VitA, Valtrex, etc....we changed nothing except possibly adding (down the road...only if signs showed they needed it to move along what their bodies were cycling on...you'll see the cycles by following the clinical signs...I just did an off-list e-mail to one of the moms I'm helping off-list...think I'll put that up for the group too). Don't do the AC chelation right now either...as I've said prior, w/the Immusist on board I've safely & effectively been chelating to higher levels than I ever did w/other chelation protocols...all by improving the immune system so the immune sytem could tackle it on it's own.Again, Micheal says, "it's in a class by itself"...we are not use to a product doing so much...don't add things...except for cycling through a few things adding on for a short time, we've been reducing our supplement list over the long run as the

body just works better...it's exciting to watch the labs ( & children) turn around...it's not overnight guys (we're talking our WA kids are 8-12 months & still seeing gains...slow & steady w/small positive gains).Keep us posted if you do decide to use it.Blessings,Rita>> Hi Rita,> > We have just ordered the immusist so should be getting it in a couple of days. You had said you give it with the liquid supplements in a small cup and then follow with 8oz of water. We do the following in the morning with a little applesauce:> > -Mag citrate> -vit. C> -Nordic Nats Pro EFA> -Vit E (liquid)> -Lysine> -vit K> -DMG with folinic

acid> -zinc> -olive leaf> -enhansa> (COL, amino support and vit D -- once high levels come down) -- to add later> > I am also giving a probiotic dose in water/juice after this and then 30min to 1 hr later citrus pectin with water/juice.> > So my question is, where/with what should I give the Immusist? Do i give it to him in the 8oz of water after the above mag citrate, vit C etc mix and applesause?> > In addition, I have some questions about vitamin A protocol for you or others. At 15 months, my son had the German Measles (about 3 months after his MMR shot). His temperature went up to about 104.9 at the highest but other than this he seemed ok. His language, however, was very slow to progress (I already saw problems though before his MMR). A few months ago we did his basic titer panels, and his Rubella titers were slightly high (2.62, greater than 1.1 is

positive) and same with mumps (4.09 with greater than 1.1 positive). So this is one of his many issues but I have discussed it a little with some of his DANs and there hasn't been a real push to try the vitamin A protocol. Anyone know why? Are there risks? I think I read in the Vitamin K protocol that K kids shouldnt take the micellized vitamin A. If anyone has any advice on this and how/if we should do it, please let me know. Apologies if this was already discussed -- i did a> search and couldnt find anything in the archives.> > I also think my son and daughter may have parasite issues and my son has higher HHV6 titers (1:160) and off the charts mercury/other metals in his porphyrin test so I am trying to figure out what to do next.> > Rita, do you think I should go for the Immusist first or the high dose vitamin A protocol (after adding the CLO, amino support and a couple of other

"easy" supplement changes) and then the parasites, ac chelation and finally valtrex?> > Any advice from you or others would be much appreciated!!> > Many thanks in advance,> > >

December 18, 2011

Rita,

Thanks so much for this wealth of information that you are sharing. Do you

have any experience with people being on perscription Low Dose Naltrexone-LDN,

and starting Immusist? Mia is peaking with viral and immune system symptoms

(mast cell degranulation from food reactions) again, suddenly. We are still on a

waiting list for Klinghardt, but we have been able to step down to a very basic

supplement protocol since the KPU has helped so much with dumping metals- and

the Humaworm with parasites. So before I start ramping up a bunch of stuff for

management of the recent upswing in viral/immune system symptoms, which we don't

have the money to do right now (especially if we ever want to afford to go to

Klinghardt), I would like to start Immusist. I am getting a sense it is just the

right time for us. So let me list our supplements- please let me know if you

think anything would be an issue. The main thing I wonder about is the LDN.

We are testing out a new local doctor fully covered by insurance, so will

ask him also tomorrow.

Morning-

Zinc

B6

Taurine

Sublingual B12

Biosil microsilica

Chlorella

follinic acid

TMG (we are up and down on this- she gets hyper/sensory seeking)

Night-

LDN

Evening primrose oil

Vit D

Gaba support with P-5-P

Taurine

Biosil microsilica

Chlorella

Magnesium glycinate

Theanine

December 18, 2011

melissa...can you share briefly what symptoms Mia is showing that make you think viral immune?

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:38 PMSubject: Re: Rita: Immusist, vit A protocol, parasites...what do do?

Rita, Thanks so much for this wealth of information that you are sharing. Do you have any experience with people being on perscription Low Dose Naltrexone-LDN, and starting Immusist? Mia is peaking with viral and immune system symptoms (mast cell degranulation from food reactions) again, suddenly. We are still on a waiting list for Klinghardt, but we have been able to step down to a very basic supplement protocol since the KPU has helped so much with dumping metals- and the Humaworm with parasites. So before I start ramping up a bunch of stuff for management of the recent upswing in viral/immune system symptoms, which we don't have the money to do right now (especially if we ever want to afford to go to Klinghardt), I would like to start Immusist. I am getting a sense it is just the right time for us. So let me list our supplements- please let me know if you think anything would be an issue. The main thing I wonder about is the LDN. We are

testing out a new local doctor fully covered by insurance, so will ask him also tomorrow.Morning-ZincB6TaurineSublingual B12Biosil microsilicaChlorellafollinic acidTMG (we are up and down on this- she gets hyper/sensory seeking)Night-LDNEvening primrose oilVit DGaba support with P-5-PTaurineBiosil microsilicaChlorellaMagnesium glycinateTheanine

December 18, 2011

Sindhu,

....seen this A Lot over the years....it's not that the body won't every be able

to use LDM-100 (I believe after some additional healing you will be able to use

it & it will be good for you)...I also believe it that w/the symptoms you are

describing (not a doc here..just seen a lot as a mom) that viral is a big

issue..but bad gut & I believe liver stress as well is inhampering the ability

to detox the viral. Our herbalist would not start some of the kids till other

issues were resolved (he was amazing w/this..we were so blessed to learn from

him...for over 2 years we saw him help so many)....he would heal them to a point

that they could use the LDM-100.

With using the Immusist 1st...I believe it will take a few months in ramping up

the Immusist dose for you...it will stabalize the inflamation, digestion issues,

liver/blood & other organ issues...you are mending the body so YOUR immune

system decides what it has to heal the next layer, then it will mount the

defense it needs to tackley the next big stress. There is a difference between

your body chosing for itself what it can tackle & you trying to force it to

tackle something (that is also why I value ART so much).

LDM-100 & Immusist do work together when the body is ready...our family uses it

together very successfully.... & I beleive as you heal w/Immusist, your family

will as well. LDM-100 is a strong anti-viral, anti-fungal & anti-bacterial....to

give you a mental picture of what's going on w/LDM-100 I'm going to refer you to

the Zyto spreadsheet in this groups files...a pictures worth a thousand words 7

this group is probably getting tired of all my words...I know my fingers are....

look at the load of organism this child was detoxing as he was not sleeping

well, stools went south & broke out in a rash...it was just the way the body got

rid of a toxin dump bigger than the normal excretion could handle....

Immusist is a stand-alone product, while LDM-100 is a very good product, it is

not stand-alone...you need organ supports & to be in a place that the organs can

handle the large toxin dump is the best way I can describe it.

Just stick to the Immusist is my best advise for you right now... & hang in

there, you really are doing Great....chin-up )!!!

Blessings,

Rita

> >

> > Hi Rita,

> >

> > We have just ordered the immusist so should be getting it in a couple of

days. Â You had said you give it with the liquid supplements in a small cup and

then follow with 8oz of water. Â We do the following in the morning with a

little applesauce:

> >

> > -Mag citrate

> > -vit. C

> > -Nordic Nats Pro EFA

> > -Vit E (liquid)

> > -Lysine

> > -vit K

> > -DMG with folinic acid

> > -zinc

> > -olive leaf

> > -enhansa

> > (COL, amino support and vit D -- once high levels come down) -- to add later

> >

> > I am also giving a probiotic dose in water/juice after this and then 30min

to 1 hr later citrus pectin with water/juice.

> >

> > So my question is, where/with what should I give the Immusist? Â Do i give

it to him in the 8oz of water after the above mag citrate, vit C etc mix and

applesause?

> >

> > In addition, I have some questions about vitamin A protocol for you or

others. Â At 15 months, my son had the German Measles (about 3 months after his

MMR shot). Â His temperature went up to about 104.9 at the highest but other

than this he seemed ok. Â His language, however, was very slow to progress (I

already saw problems though before his MMR). Â A few months ago we did his basic

titer panels, and his Rubella titers were slightly high (2.62, greater than 1.1

is positive) and same with mumps (4.09 with greater than 1.1 positive). Â So

this is one of his many issues but I have discussed it Â a little with some of

his DANs and there hasn't been a real push to try the vitamin A protocol. Â

Anyone know why? Â Are there risks? I think I read in the Vitamin K protocol

that K kids shouldnt take the micellized vitamin A. Â If anyone has any advice

on this and how/if we should do it, please let me know. Â Apologies if this was

already discussed -- i did a

> > search and couldnt find anything in the archives.

> >

> > I also think my son and daughter may have parasite issues and my son has

higher HHV6 titers (1:160) and off the charts mercury/other metals in his

porphyrin test so I am trying to figure out what to do next.

> >

> > Rita, do you think I should go for the Immusist first or the high dose

vitamin A protocol (after adding the CLO, amino support and a couple of other

" easy " supplement changes) and then the parasites, ac chelation and finally

valtrex?

> >

> > Any advice from you or others would be much appreciated!!

> >

> > Many thanks in advance,

> >

>

December 18, 2011

,

I'm happy to help!

You have a good list going ( & for others..if need be & your on some rx drugs,

you'll still be ok...there are some in our group..including some that see our

docs that are doing well on rx's...I just want you to watch them as it was the

drugs that slowed them down & caused neg reactions...including 1 that landed in

teh ER...they could not figure out what was up as the labs were so normal...it

turned out they removed 13 of the 15 drugs they were on as the body was now

rejecting the drugs that were no longer needed....keep the healing in mind as to

what the drug side effects would be if used & the body no longer needed

them...the drugs were the toxins to the body, not the Immusist).

The LDN is a good product...as with many ofthe other products that the group

uses....if you are on it & doing well, then I say again stay & it...do not tweek

your protocols to the point that negative reactions are happening just because

you've messed w/things then start the Immusist. Adding the Immusist on board in

the small doses that we are using will help awaken the immune system to

heal...as the body heals it will itself give us signs that it wants/or does not

want a product...as it cycles through the layers of toxins it will do the

same....

My advise on the doc...as much as I totally love DrK, I've sat down & talked

w/him multiple times...I've never seen him as a patient, I could not afford to.

We've seen for over 5 years now (as just 1 of our docs) Dr Amy whom we love (you

can also get on her list..as I've been told she is not accepting new patients

now, but anticipates opening up some new slots in the new year)....I'm

personally sending those w/limited resources like myself to Dr Nesreen...there

is also a doc that it highly trained by DrK in Gig Harbor that I've met on

several occations...I'd have to look up her info & get back w/you...both of

these would be better than streatching beyond means & just waiting on a waiting

list....just my budget friendly 2c.

If you don't have a doc...that's ok too...several in our WA group can't afford a

doc & are doing real well just on Immusist.

Here's my biggest recommendation on tweeking supps....lay them out-spreadsheet

version...I " save-as " dating the new spreadsheet which helps me keep a record of

what I've done...I also take this w/me to the appts which helps them as

well...she stamps & signs it for my tax records as well ) I've catagorized

them into catagories which helps me control it some...just like I did w/Fanny's

(essentials 1st: vit/minerals, good fats, probiotics, etc)...from there you can

see to tweek better.

I can't do this for everyone...I'm a busy mom here...but in the next couple of

days I'll try to get to spreadsheet up yours as well for you & send it to you

offlist as you're part of the WA group by now (ps...forgot to mention that 2 of

our original WA group that worked w/our herbalist as well have moved to

OR...further south than you...they'll always be a part of the WA group...1 has

an almost recovered kid/for a couple of years all she said was, now, if he would

only talk...he's talking up a storm, It's such a blessing to see him interact).

btw...you've got good vits/essentials covered + binders, etc...I say if it's

working for you I don't see anything wrong w/leaving your protocol right where

you're at and just starting the Immusist, you'll be just fine.... & like I said,

I beleive any of the ART trained (or other for that matter) could help you

further tweek....I fully believe your strong mom intuition will help you the

most.

Blessings,

Rita

>

> Rita,

> Thanks so much for this wealth of information that you are sharing. Do you