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To go with

my whine...

Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely

look like a butt!!!

See what I mean??? (|)onna

And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOL

It's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch &

chairs as their Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not

looking.. and are sneakily quiet as well).. Bark at me to go

outside.. get out on the porch after much ta-do with the chair

[why is it that my living room has become an obstacle course?]

and then stand and look at me like... "It's wet out there.. Are

YOU NUTS???"

Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that

"not thinking" decided it would be a great time to run the

dishwasher AND the dryer this morning... to add a little extra

"warmth" to the house, so that I wouldn't need the furnace to be

kicked on to warm it up in here.. Not thinking that he just

compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me wrong.. in the

winter time.. when it's cold outside and the furnace is running

a bunch.. the dry heat is a bit much on the sinus' so having the

dishwasher or dryer humidify the place is nice.. just not

today... I already ache from the cold damp.. (Guess he figures

warm damp is better? LOL)..

I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this

morning... because that only raised my internal temperature to

way above boiling.... Wish they could do something to fix the

screwing up of the internal thermostat for we MSers.. We can't

find a happy medium in this house.. I gotta freeze for to

be comfortable.. or he's got strip to skivvies for me to be

comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept he insists that the

neighbors could see him in the house that way.. They'd have to

stand ON the porch with their noses pressed up against the

window to see in here!!! And no one sez he has to get up and

boogie in front of that window either.. LOL..

Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot

flashes of menopause long before the "visitor" stops

visiting?.. But then again.. I thought "hot flashes" were just

that.. "flashes"..

Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent basis..

He stays now while he's working with to set monuments and

other things in which might need a hand. He's also got a

friend of a friend who is looking into getting him a "full-time"

job working at a local company.. actually within walking

distance as the bird flies.. and even without the bird flies

path, at his age.. IF he would need to walk (ya know.. snow knee

deep.. to the Jolly Green Giant type stuff)..

Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will

be.. definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask..

but I CAN get back to using "guilt" to get things done for me,

by him.. <grin>.. It will be company on the days he isn't

working.. and it is ALWAYS a pleasure to see him come.. and

sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as well.. However, I would

think the same holds true on his side of the fence...

He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the

grocery bill around here.. or at the very least buy his own

snacking stuff.. cause I've never known anybody who can eat as

much as he does.. and NOT weigh as much as me.. LOL... Both of

the boys were that way... Make one of those HUGE stock pots of

vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. and they could clean it

out in one evening!..

Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and dishwasher

have shut off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying

in here today.. dark and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs

a break from being sat on in the computer chair.. and I keep

putting on and rubbing in some Diabeti-Derm cream I found in the

store.. hoping to prevent a pressure sore on my foot..

How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off sometimes,

down in the dumps other times.. might get by without either of

those.. IF I can find something interesting to watch on Project

Free TV, or something to get my mind off how lousy I feel, or

things aching... Can't for the life of me think of a reason for

my right knee, a year and a half AFTER the hard fall, to start

acting up.. but it is.. And of course my hips are even more

painful now following the knee injuries last year.. because

those have altered my gait even more so..

Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation,

thinking it is most likely some type of arthritis in there..

from 52 years of falls, accidents and abuse.. do have an order

for an X-Ray.. (as well as a myriad of other tests that my PCP

would like to see done.. might pass again on the colonoscopy

though.. unless can figure out how to make the "prep"

period semi-humane)

I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting together.. to

keep me busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up

for CD, and in CD quality.. and those are finished.. want to put

together some others so old that I'm sure he hasn't heard them

in many years.. but will remember as soon as he hears them..

It's nice to bring good memories to others..

I started working on the family tree once again.. and that

should keep me busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess

over it.. make it a passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my

passion for it, still hasn't completely returned after losing

Bud)... Sunday would have been his 36th birthday.. that might

also have something to do with the moods right now as well.. The

passion for it started.. shortly after he was born.. I wanted to

give him something of his roots... some sense of where he came

from.. so it seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep

plugging away at it.. looking for new resources...

Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure

just what type of book I want to write.. We have so many

"inspiring" stories about people succeeding and getting around

the MonSter.. I'm really kind of tired of hearing those

inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. if anyone can find a

way to live successfully and happily and succeed while dealing

and living with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. and

ENJOY!!!.. But what about those of us, and I suspect there are

many many more of us than them... who just manage to get by and

we still keep plodding our way.. and living and dealing with the

MonSter....

Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone

please pass the cheese

HUGS

|)onna

Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are

you? What are you doing to stay busy? What TV shows do you

watch? Fill us all in!

hugs

Sharon

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Just a thought that hit me when reading your last paragraph, I have a book suggestion for you (to read, not one to write, I think you'll fins just the perfect one to write without my help ). Have you read "Smile or Die" by Barbara Ehrenreich? I bought that for the other week, because she said something similar to what you are saying here, about how all the stories about MSers in the magazine she is subscribing to is about people who, in 's words: "Have climbed Mount Everest, and travelled alone through Asia, and have two doctorates, and, oh, yes they have MS too". She said that she wouldn't mind those stories, if there were stories about people who have a little less "super fantastic lives". And the "Smile or Die" book takes its start in a similar experience the writer has when living with breast cancer. I haven't read it myself, but said it was really to the point about those things. And if you were Swedish I would sign this post with "ni-na-ni-na-ni", referring to the intro song in the 1970's and 1980's childrens TV-show: "Book suggestion for today". It's strange, actually, how those of us who grew up in Sweden back then just can't seem to suggest a book without singing, or typing, a little "ni-na-ni-na"... The reason for it is here:

passing the cheese...> >> >> > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are you doing > > to stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!> >> > hugs> > Sharon> > This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in > > spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and > > in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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.....and "fins" should be "find"...love/Reb> > >> > >> > > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are you> doing> > > to stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!> > >> > > hugs> > > Sharon> > > This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in> > > spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and> > > in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

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Hi Donna,Here have a glass of white zinfandel; my wine of choice!As far as 'flashes'...though they can be momentary and episodic, there's a good many times where they've 'parked' themselves and stayed around for awhile. Iuse to get the sweats as well--very annoying and uncomfortable. I've been 'done' with the 'visitor' as you aptly put it, but have still had hot moments. Finished with it in 9/08.Good luck on this; it can be bothersome.love, Kate Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... AKA Someone please pass the cheese!To: MSersLife > To go with my whine...> > Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely > look like > a butt!!!> > See what I mean??? (|)onna> > And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOL> > It's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch & > chairs as > their Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not looking.. and > are > sneakily quiet as well).. Bark at me to go outside.. get out on > the > porch after much ta-do with the chair [why is it that my living > room has > become an obstacle course?] and then stand and look at me > like... "It's > wet out there.. Are YOU NUTS???"> > Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that > "not > thinking" decided it would be a great time to run the dishwasher > AND the > dryer this morning... to add a little extra "warmth" to the > house, so > that I wouldn't need the furnace to be kicked on to warm it up > in here.. > Not thinking that he just compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't > get me > wrong.. in the winter time.. when it's cold outside and the > furnace is > running a bunch.. the dry heat is a bit much on the sinus' so > having the > dishwasher or dryer humidify the place is nice.. just not > today... I > already ache from the cold damp.. (Guess he figures warm damp is > better? > LOL)..> > I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this > morning... > because that only raised my internal temperature to way above > boiling.... Wish they could do something to fix the screwing up > of the > internal thermostat for we MSers.. We can't find a happy medium > in this > house.. I gotta freeze for to be comfortable.. or he's got > strip to > skivvies for me to be comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept > he > insists that the neighbors could see him in the house that way.. > They'd > have to stand ON the porch with their noses pressed up against > the > window to see in here!!! And no one sez he has to get up and > boogie in > front of that window either.. LOL..> > Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot > flashes of > menopause long before the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But then > again.. > I thought "hot flashes" were just that.. "flashes"..> > Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent basis.. > He > stays now while he's working with to set monuments and > other things > in which might need a hand. He's also got a friend of a > friend who > is looking into getting him a "full-time" job working at a local > company.. actually within walking distance as the bird flies.. > and even > without the bird flies path, at his age.. IF he would need to > walk (ya > know.. snow knee deep.. to the Jolly Green Giant type stuff)..> > Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will > be.. > definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask.. but > I CAN > get back to using "guilt" to get things done for me, by him.. > .. > It will be company on the days he isn't working.. and it is > ALWAYS a > pleasure to see him come.. and sometimes a pleasure to see him > leave as > well.. However, I would think the same holds true on his side of > the > fence...> > He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the > grocery bill > around here.. or at the very least buy his own snacking stuff.. > cause > I've never known anybody who can eat as much as he does.. and > NOT weigh > as much as me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way... Make > one of > those HUGE stock pots of vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. > and they > could clean it out in one evening!..> > Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and dishwasher > have > shut off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying in > here > today.. dark and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs a break > from > being sat on in the computer chair.. and I keep putting on and > rubbing > in some Diabeti-Derm cream I found in the store.. hoping to > prevent a > pressure sore on my foot..> > How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off sometimes, > down in > the dumps other times.. might get by without either of those.. > IF I can > find something interesting to watch on Project Free TV, or > something to > get my mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching... Can't for > the life > of me think of a reason for my right knee, a year and a half > AFTER the > hard fall, to start acting up.. but it is.. And of course my > hips are > even more painful now following the knee injuries last year.. > because > those have altered my gait even more so..> > Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation, > thinking it > is most likely some type of arthritis in there.. from 52 years > of falls, > accidents and abuse.. do have an order for an X-Ray.. (as well > as a > myriad of other tests that my PCP would like to see done.. might > pass > again on the colonoscopy though.. unless can figure out how > to make > the "prep" period semi-humane)> > I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting together.. to > keep me > busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up for CD, > and in CD > quality.. and those are finished.. want to put together some > others so > old that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many years.. but will > remember > as soon as he hears them.. It's nice to bring good memories to > others..> I started working on the family tree once again.. and that > should keep > me busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over it.. > make it a > passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my passion for it, still > hasn't > completely returned after losing Bud)... Sunday would have been > his 36th > birthday.. that might also have something to do with the moods > right now > as well.. The passion for it started.. shortly after he was > born.. I > wanted to give him something of his roots... some sense of where > he came > from.. so it seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep > plugging > away at it.. looking for new resources...> > Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure > just what > type of book I want to write.. We have so many "inspiring" > stories about > people succeeding and getting around the MonSter.. I'm really > kind of > tired of hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. > if > anyone can find a way to live successfully and happily and > succeed while > dealing and living with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. > and > ENJOY!!!.. But what about those of us, and I suspect there are > many many > more of us than them... who just manage to get by and we still > keep > plodding our way.. and living and dealing with the MonSter....> > Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone > please > pass the cheese> > HUGS> |)onna> > > > > > >> >> > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are > you doing > > to stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!> >> > hugs> > Sharon> > This email is a natural hand made product. The slight > variations in > > spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and > beauty and > > in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.> >> >> >> >> >> > > Kate

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That's a

great way to suggest the "book of the week" to kids.. or even

adults.. (I checked out the link)...

I've checked out & Noble to see if it were in e-book

format.. it's not.. but she has a ton of others out there.. but

first I Googled "Smile or Die", and then picked the 4th in the

list, under the video options.. which is this:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/06/smile-or-die/

I suspect it's not actually a review on the book "Smile or Die"

itself.. but she does makes some very valid points in the

short/medium video there..

It's as simple as.. come Monday.. (or sooner if they have

evening hours) WILL be taking me over to our public library

for me to pick up more than few books to be read.. and Smile or

Die will be on the list to be read.. since it's not in e-book

format as of yet.. and if they don't have it... I'll put in an

inter-library loan type request..

I really do dislike being so negative.. but sometimes it's very

hard to be positive and think positively when so very much is

wrong, and more keeps going wrong.. And like .. I really

would prefer to have a few more "reality" stories told in these

magazines.. cause as well all know.. WE aren't the person

climbing Mount Everest.. and we aren't financially situated to

"get that doctorate" or purchase the special stuff needed to

climb Mount Everest..

There are ALL kinds of things out there, to make our lives so

very very very much easier to live.. cupboards that are on a

hidden slide that can be pulled down to our level for use from a

wheel or power chair.. and then moved on back up for the

non-chair bound people living in the same house.. I found them..

online.. and 1 cupboard, just one small cupboard that would

handle say glasses & cups. was $2,500.00 to start! A walk-in

bathtub.. starts at $1,500.00.. unless we're Montell or

from the very wealthy side of the tracks.. it just ain't

happening in OUR houses.. So give us articles that actually

pertain to us.. Yup..

Now I need to go point it out to the magazine things.. <steps

off her soapbox>

Thanks for the suggestion Reb.. I will be looking for the book

HUGS

|)onna

Just a

thought that hit me when reading your last paragraph, I have a

book suggestion for you (to read, not one to write, I think

you'll fins just the perfect one to write without my help ). Have you read "Smile or

Die" by Barbara Ehrenreich? I bought that for the other

week, because she said something similar to what you are saying

here, about how all the stories about MSers in the magazine she

is subscribing to is about people who, in 's words: "Have

climbed Mount Everest, and travelled alone through Asia, and

have two doctorates, and, oh, yes they have MS too". She said

that she wouldn't mind those stories, if there were stories

about people who have a little less "super fantastic lives". And

the "Smile or Die" book takes its start in a similar experience

the writer has when living with breast cancer. I haven't read it

myself, but said it was really to the point about those

things.

And

if you were Swedish I would sign this post with

"ni-na-ni-na-ni", referring to the intro song in the 1970's

and 1980's childrens TV-show: "Book suggestion for today".

It's strange, actually, how those of us who grew up in Sweden

back then just can't seem to suggest a book without singing,

or typing, a little "ni-na-ni-na"... The reason for it is

here:

love

/Reb;

passing the cheese...

> >

> >

> > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What

are you doing

> > to stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all

in!

> >

> > hugs

> > Sharon

> > This email is a natural hand made product. The slight

variations in

> > spelling and grammar enhance its individual character

and beauty and

> > in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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tried to asnwer but will not send tell me if you get this > >> >> > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are > you doing > > to stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!> >> > hugs> > Sharon> > This email is a natural hand made product. The slight > variations in > > spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and > beauty and > > in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.> >> >> >> >> >> > > Kate

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Oh Thank

You Kate..

I did get a chuckle out of the white zinfandel.. how I would

sooooo love one.. but would grab the glass faster than I

could pour into it.. too many medications to mess around with

adding alcohol to the equation..

The strange part now.. is that my hands and my feet feel like

they are on fire (not that I really and truly mind.. but they

are usually like ice).. but the rest of me is chilly.. but I

really really am not fondly anticipating that next bout of

sweats..

I don't mind waking up in the morning, soaked.. When I wake up

that way.. I know that I've had a good restful sleep during the

night.. was able to lay still under the quilt long enough for

the heat to build up enough to make me sweat..

Well, I do mind a little bit waking up that way.. cause I'm not

getting a bath to get completely cleaned up until gets home

those evenings.. I could conceivably take one while he's at

work.. but I still have these horror movie type pictures

flashing through my head of the call that would go out across

the police band radios everywhere.. "Lift assist needed for a

naked beached whale from her bathroom floor!".. ROFL

HUGS

|)onna

Hi Donna,

Here have a glass of white zinfandel; my wine of choice!

As far as 'flashes'...though they can be momentary and

episodic, there's a good many times where they've

'parked' themselves and stayed around for awhile. I

use to get the sweats as well--very annoying and

uncomfortable. I've been 'done' with the 'visitor' as you

aptly put it, but have still had hot moments. Finished with it

in 9/08.

Good luck on this; it can be bothersome.

love, Kate

Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update...

AKA Someone please pass the cheese!

To: MSersLife

> To go with my whine...

>

> Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I

definitely

> look like

> a butt!!!

>

> See what I mean??? (|)onna

>

> And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOL

>

> It's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch

&

> chairs as

> their Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not looking..

and

> are

> sneakily quiet as well).. Bark at me to go outside.. get

out on

> the

> porch after much ta-do with the chair [why is it that my

living

> room has

> become an obstacle course?] and then stand and look at me

> like... "It's

> wet out there.. Are YOU NUTS???"

>

> Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that

> "not

> thinking" decided it would be a great time to run the

dishwasher

> AND the

> dryer this morning... to add a little extra "warmth" to the

> house, so

> that I wouldn't need the furnace to be kicked on to warm it

up

> in here..

> Not thinking that he just compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now..

don't

> get me

> wrong.. in the winter time.. when it's cold outside and the

> furnace is

> running a bunch.. the dry heat is a bit much on the sinus'

so

> having the

> dishwasher or dryer humidify the place is nice.. just not

> today... I

> already ache from the cold damp.. (Guess he figures warm

damp is

> better?

> LOL)..

>

> I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this

> morning...

> because that only raised my internal temperature to way

above

> boiling.... Wish they could do something to fix the

screwing up

> of the

> internal thermostat for we MSers.. We can't find a happy

medium

> in this

> house.. I gotta freeze for to be comfortable.. or he's

got

> strip to

> skivvies for me to be comfortable... He would get nekkid..

cept

> he

> insists that the neighbors could see him in the house that

way..

> They'd

> have to stand ON the porch with their noses pressed up

against

> the

> window to see in here!!! And no one sez he has to get up

and

> boogie in

> front of that window either.. LOL..

>

> Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the

hot

> flashes of

> menopause long before the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But

then

> again..

> I thought "hot flashes" were just that.. "flashes"..

>

> Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent

basis..

> He

> stays now while he's working with to set monuments and

> other things

> in which might need a hand. He's also got a friend of

a

> friend who

> is looking into getting him a "full-time" job working at a

local

> company.. actually within walking distance as the bird

flies..

> and even

> without the bird flies path, at his age.. IF he would need

to

> walk (ya

> know.. snow knee deep.. to the Jolly Green Giant type

stuff)..

>

> Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it

will

> be..

> definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask..

but

> I CAN

> get back to using "guilt" to get things done for me, by

him..

> ..

> It will be company on the days he isn't working.. and it

is

> ALWAYS a

> pleasure to see him come.. and sometimes a pleasure to

see him

> leave as

> well.. However, I would think the same holds true on his

side of

> the

> fence...

>

> He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with

the

> grocery bill

> around here.. or at the very least buy his own snacking

stuff..

> cause

> I've never known anybody who can eat as much as he does..

and

> NOT weigh

> as much as me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way...

Make

> one of

> those HUGE stock pots of vegetable soup (or any type of

soup)..

> and they

> could clean it out in one evening!..

>

> Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and

dishwasher

> have

> shut off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying

in

> here

> today.. dark and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs

a break

> from

> being sat on in the computer chair.. and I keep putting

on and

> rubbing

> in some Diabeti-Derm cream I found in the store.. hoping

to

> prevent a

> pressure sore on my foot..

>

> How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off

sometimes,

> down in

> the dumps other times.. might get by without either of

those..

> IF I can

> find something interesting to watch on Project Free TV,

or

> something to

> get my mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching...

Can't for

> the life

> of me think of a reason for my right knee, a year and a

half

> AFTER the

> hard fall, to start acting up.. but it is.. And of course

my

> hips are

> even more painful now following the knee injuries last

year..

> because

> those have altered my gait even more so..

>

> Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and

inflammation,

> thinking it

> is most likely some type of arthritis in there.. from 52

years

> of falls,

> accidents and abuse.. do have an order for an X-Ray.. (as

well

> as a

> myriad of other tests that my PCP would like to see

done.. might

> pass

> again on the colonoscopy though.. unless can figure

out how

> to make

> the "prep" period semi-humane)

>

> I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting

together.. to

> keep me

> busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up

for CD,

> and in CD

> quality.. and those are finished.. want to put together

some

> others so

> old that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many years..

but will

> remember

> as soon as he hears them.. It's nice to bring good

memories to

> others..

> I started working on the family tree once again.. and

that

> should keep

> me busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over

it..

> make it a

> passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my passion for it,

still

> hasn't

> completely returned after losing Bud)... Sunday would

have been

> his 36th

> birthday.. that might also have something to do with the

moods

> right now

> as well.. The passion for it started.. shortly after he

was

> born.. I

> wanted to give him something of his roots... some sense

of where

> he came

> from.. so it seems to be a moot point right now.. but I

keep

> plugging

> away at it.. looking for new resources...

>

> Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not

sure

> just what

> type of book I want to write.. We have so many

"inspiring"

> stories about

> people succeeding and getting around the MonSter.. I'm

really

> kind of

> tired of hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get me

wrong..

> if

> anyone can find a way to live successfully and happily

and

> succeed while

> dealing and living with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO

THEM..

> and

> ENJOY!!!.. But what about those of us, and I suspect

there are

> many many

> more of us than them... who just manage to get by and we

still

> keep

> plodding our way.. and living and dealing with the

MonSter....

>

> Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session...

someone

> please

> pass the cheese

>

> HUGS

> |)onna

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What

are

> you doing

> > to stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us

all in!

> >

> > hugs

> > Sharon

> > This email is a natural hand made product. The

slight

> variations in

> > spelling and grammar enhance its individual

character and

> beauty and

> > in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Try yam cream for the hot flashes, you apply a little to (if I remember correctly, it has been awhile) under your chin(s) . It really helps.There's your cheese and whine...

~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

-- Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... AKA Someone please pass the cheese!

To go with my whine...Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely look like a butt!!! See what I mean??? (|)onna And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOLIt's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch & chairs as their Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not looking.. and are sneakily quiet as well).. Bark at me to go outside.. get out on the porch after much ta-do with the chair [why is it that my living room has become an obstacle course?] and then stand and look at me like... "It's wet out there.. Are YOU NUTS???" Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that "not thinking" decided it would be a great time to run the dishwasher AND the dryer this morning... to add a little extra "warmth" to the house, so that I wouldn't need the furnace to be kicked on to warm it up in here.. Not thinking that he just compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me wrong.. in the winter time.. when it's cold outside and the furnace is running a bunch.. the dry heat is a bit much on the sinus' so having the dishwasher or dryer humidify the place is nice.. just not today... I already ache from the cold damp.. (Guess he figures warm damp is better? LOL).. I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this morning... because that only raised my internal temperature to way above boiling.... Wish they could do something to fix the screwing up of the internal thermostat for we MSers.. We can't find a happy medium in this house.. I gotta freeze for to be comfortable.. or he's got strip to skivvies for me to be comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept he insists that the neighbors could see him in the house that way.. They'd have to stand ON the porch with their noses pressed up against the window to see in here!!! And no one sez he has to get up and boogie in front of that window either.. LOL.. Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot flashes of menopause long before the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But then again.. I thought "hot flashes" were just that.. "flashes".. Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent basis.. He stays now while he's working with to set monuments and other things in which might need a hand. He's also got a friend of a friend who is looking into getting him a "full-time" job working at a local company.. actually within walking distance as the bird flies.. and even without the bird flies path, at his age.. IF he would need to walk (ya know.. snow knee deep.. to the Jolly Green Giant type stuff).. Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will be.. definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask.. but I CAN get back to using "guilt" to get things done for me, by him.. <grin>.. It will be company on the days he isn't working.. and it is ALWAYS a pleasure to see him come.. and sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as well.. However, I would think the same holds true on his side of the fence...He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the grocery bill around here.. or at the very least buy his own snacking stuff.. cause I've never known anybody who can eat as much as he does.. and NOT weigh as much as me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way... Make one of those HUGE stock pots of vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. and they could clean it out in one evening!.. Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and dishwasher have shut off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying in here today.. dark and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs a break from being sat on in the computer chair.. and I keep putting on and rubbing in some Diabeti-Derm cream I found in the store.. hoping to prevent a pressure sore on my foot.. How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off sometimes, down in the dumps other times.. might get by without either of those.. IF I can find something interesting to watch on Project Free TV, or something to get my mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching... Can't for the life of me think of a reason for my right knee, a year and a half AFTER the hard fall, to start acting up.. but it is.. And of course my hips are even more painful now following the knee injuries last year.. because those have altered my gait even more so.. Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation, thinking it is most likely some type of arthritis in there.. from 52 years of falls, accidents and abuse.. do have an order for an X-Ray.. (as well as a myriad of other tests that my PCP would like to see done.. might pass again on the colonoscopy though.. unless can figure out how to make the "prep" period semi-humane)I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting together.. to keep me busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up for CD, and in CD quality.. and those are finished.. want to put together some others so old that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many years.. but will remember as soon as he hears them.. It's nice to bring good memories to others..I started working on the family tree once again.. and that should keep me busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over it.. make it a passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my passion for it, still hasn't completely returned after losing Bud)... Sunday would have been his 36th birthday.. that might also have something to do with the moods right now as well.. The passion for it started.. shortly after he was born.. I wanted to give him something of his roots... some sense of where he came from.. so it seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep plugging away at it.. looking for new resources... Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure just what type of book I want to write.. We have so many "inspiring" stories about people succeeding and getting around the MonSter.. I'm really kind of tired of hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. if anyone can find a way to live successfully and happily and succeed while dealing and living with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. and ENJOY!!!.. But what about those of us, and I suspect there are many many more of us than them... who just manage to get by and we still keep plodding our way.. and living and dealing with the MonSter.... Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone please pass the cheeseHUGS |)onna

Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are you doing to stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!hugs

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Thanks.. I

needed that..

And it seems that my chin extends to where my boobies used to

be.. and those extended to where my tummy used to be.. and that

in fact has dropped as well.. no wonder my a$$ feels like it's

draggin'! LOL

HUGS

|)onna

Try yam cream for the hot flashes, you apply a

little to (if I remember correctly, it has been

awhile) under your chin(s) . It really helps.There's your cheese

and whine...

~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

-------Original

Message-------

From:

|)onna

Date:

9/30/2010 11:16:59 AM

To:

MSersLife

Subject:

Re: update time folks! - |)onna's

update... AKA Someone please pass the cheese!

To go with my whine...

Couldn't put my name in parentheses because

then I definitely look like a butt!!!

See what I mean??? (|)onna

And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOL

It's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are

using my couch & chairs as their

Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not

looking.. and are sneakily quiet as well)..

Bark at me to go outside.. get out on the

porch after much ta-do with the chair [why is

it that my living room has become an obstacle

course?] and then stand and look at me

like... "It's wet out there.. Are YOU NUTS???"

Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And

I know that "not thinking" decided it

would be a great time to run the dishwasher

AND the dryer this morning... to add a little

extra "warmth" to the house, so that I

wouldn't need the furnace to be kicked on to

warm it up in here.. Not thinking that he just

compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me

wrong.. in the winter time.. when it's cold

outside and the furnace is running a bunch..

the dry heat is a bit much on the sinus' so

having the dishwasher or dryer humidify the

place is nice.. just not today... I already

ache from the cold damp.. (Guess he figures

warm damp is better? LOL)..

I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it

was hot this morning... because that only

raised my internal temperature to way above

boiling.... Wish they could do something to

fix the screwing up of the internal thermostat

for we MSers.. We can't find a happy medium in

this house.. I gotta freeze for to be

comfortable.. or he's got strip to skivvies

for me to be comfortable... He would get

nekkid.. cept he insists that the neighbors

could see him in the house that way.. They'd

have to stand ON the porch with their noses

pressed up against the window to see in

here!!! And no one sez he has to get up and

boogie in front of that window either.. LOL..

Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can

start the hot flashes of menopause long before

the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But then

again.. I thought "hot flashes" were just

that.. "flashes"..

Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a

semi-permanent basis.. He stays now while he's

working with to set monuments and other

things in which might need a hand. He's

also got a friend of a friend who is looking

into getting him a "full-time" job working at

a local company.. actually within walking

distance as the bird flies.. and even without

the bird flies path, at his age.. IF he would

need to walk (ya know.. snow knee deep.. to

the Jolly Green Giant type stuff)..

Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not

sure what it will be.. definitely helpful, for

the most part.. might have to ask.. but I CAN

get back to using "guilt" to get things done

for me, by him.. <grin>.. It will be

company on the days he isn't working.. and it

is ALWAYS a pleasure to see him come.. and

sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as

well.. However, I would think the same holds

true on his side of the fence...

He might have to.. if working full time.. help

out with the grocery bill around here.. or at

the very least buy his own snacking stuff..

cause I've never known anybody who can eat as

much as he does.. and NOT weigh as much as

me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way...

Make one of those HUGE stock pots of vegetable

soup (or any type of soup).. and they could

clean it out in one evening!..

Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the

dryer and dishwasher have shut off.. it's

cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying in

here today.. dark and dreary as it is..

because my foot needs a break from being sat

on in the computer chair.. and I keep putting

on and rubbing in some Diabeti-Derm cream I

found in the store.. hoping to prevent a

pressure sore on my foot..

How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression..

pissed off sometimes, down in the dumps other

times.. might get by without either of those..

IF I can find something interesting to watch

on Project Free TV, or something to get my

mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching...

Can't for the life of me think of a reason for

my right knee, a year and a half AFTER the

hard fall, to start acting up.. but it is..

And of course my hips are even more painful

now following the knee injuries last year..

because those have altered my gait even more

so..

Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and

inflammation, thinking it is most likely some

type of arthritis in there.. from 52 years of

falls, accidents and abuse.. do have an order

for an X-Ray.. (as well as a myriad of other

tests that my PCP would like to see done..

might pass again on the colonoscopy though..

unless can figure out how to make the

"prep" period semi-humane)

I do have the music CD's (still) to finish

putting together.. to keep me busy.. DID get

the music from his old cassettes set up for

CD, and in CD quality.. and those are

finished.. want to put together some others so

old that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many

years.. but will remember as soon as he hears

them.. It's nice to bring good memories to

others..

I started working on the family tree once

again.. and that should keep me busy for

awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over

it.. make it a passion.. (though I do have to

admit.. my passion for it, still hasn't

completely returned after losing Bud)...

Sunday would have been his 36th birthday..

that might also have something to do with the

moods right now as well.. The passion for it

started.. shortly after he was born.. I wanted

to give him something of his roots... some

sense of where he came from.. so it seems to

be a moot point right now.. but I keep

plugging away at it.. looking for new

resources...

Keep thinking that I want to write a book..

only I'm not sure just what type of book I

want to write.. We have so many "inspiring"

stories about people succeeding and getting

around the MonSter.. I'm really kind of tired

of hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get

me wrong.. if anyone can find a way to live

successfully and happily and succeed while

dealing and living with the MonSter.. I say

MORE POWER TO THEM.. and ENJOY!!!.. But what

about those of us, and I suspect there are

many many more of us than them... who just

manage to get by and we still keep plodding

our way.. and living and dealing with the

MonSter....

Well..now that we've had enough of my whine

session... someone please pass the cheese

HUGS

|)onna

Okay

everyone! Time for an update. How are you?

What are you doing to stay busy? What TV shows

do you watch? Fill us all in!

hugs

Sharon

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enhance its individual character and

beauty and in no way are to be considered

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I saw..

tried to answer but will not send tell me if you get this...

was there something else that should have been there too?

Hugs

|)onna

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I hearya, that is why I stopped wearing a bra, every time I took it off people thought they heard the twin sonic booms from the space shuttle re-entry...

~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

-- Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... AKA Someone please pass the cheese!

To go with my whine...Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely look like a butt!!! See what I mean??? (|)onna And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOLIt's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch & chairs as their Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not looking.. and are sneakily quiet as well).. Bark at me to go outside.. get out on the porch after much ta-do with the chair [why is it that my living room has become an obstacle course?] and then stand and look at me like... "It's wet out there.. Are YOU NUTS???" Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that "not thinking" decided it would be a great time to run the dishwasher AND the dryer this morning... to add a little extra "warmth" to the house, so that I wouldn't need the furnace to be kicked on to warm it up in here.. Not thinking that he just compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me wrong.. in the winter time.. when it's cold outside and the furnace is running a bunch.. the dry heat is a bit much on the sinus' so having the dishwasher or dryer humidify the place is nice.. just not today... I already ache from the cold damp.. (Guess he figures warm damp is better? LOL).. I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this morning... because that only raised my internal temperature to way above boiling.... Wish they could do something to fix the screwing up of the internal thermostat for we MSers.. We can't find a happy medium in this house.. I gotta freeze for to be comfortable.. or he's got strip to skivvies for me to be comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept he insists that the neighbors could see him in the house that way.. They'd have to stand ON the porch with their noses pressed up against the window to see in here!!! And no one sez he has to get up and boogie in front of that window either.. LOL.. Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot flashes of menopause long before the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But then again.. I thought "hot flashes" were just that.. "flashes".. Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent basis.. He stays now while he's working with to set monuments and other things in which might need a hand. He's also got a friend of a friend who is looking into getting him a "full-time" job working at a local company.. actually within walking distance as the bird flies.. and even without the bird flies path, at his age.. IF he would need to walk (ya know.. snow knee deep.. to the Jolly Green Giant type stuff).. Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will be.. definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask.. but I CAN get back to using "guilt" to get things done for me, by him.. <grin>.. It will be company on the days he isn't working.. and it is ALWAYS a pleasure to see him come.. and sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as well.. However, I would think the same holds true on his side of the fence...He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the grocery bill around here.. or at the very least buy his own snacking stuff.. cause I've never known anybody who can eat as much as he does.. and NOT weigh as much as me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way... Make one of those HUGE stock pots of vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. and they could clean it out in one evening!.. Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and dishwasher have shut off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying in here today.. dark and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs a break from being sat on in the computer chair.. and I keep putting on and rubbing in some Diabeti-Derm cream I found in the store.. hoping to prevent a pressure sore on my foot.. How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off sometimes, down in the dumps other times.. might get by without either of those.. IF I can find something interesting to watch on Project Free TV, or something to get my mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching... Can't for the life of me think of a reason for my right knee, a year and a half AFTER the hard fall, to start acting up.. but it is.. And of course my hips are even more painful now following the knee injuries last year.. because those have altered my gait even more so.. Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation, thinking it is most likely some type of arthritis in there.. from 52 years of falls, accidents and abuse.. do have an order for an X-Ray.. (as well as a myriad of other tests that my PCP would like to see done.. might pass again on the colonoscopy though.. unless can figure out how to make the "prep" period semi-humane)I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting together.. to keep me busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up for CD, and in CD quality.. and those are finished.. want to put together some others so old that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many years.. but will remember as soon as he hears them.. It's nice to bring good memories to others..I started working on the family tree once again.. and that should keep me busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over it.. make it a passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my passion for it, still hasn't completely returned after losing Bud)... Sunday would have been his 36th birthday.. that might also have something to do with the moods right now as well.. The passion for it started.. shortly after he was born.. I wanted to give him something of his roots... some sense of where he came from.. so it seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep plugging away at it.. looking for new resources... Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure just what type of book I want to write.. We have so many "inspiring" stories about people succeeding and getting around the MonSter.. I'm really kind of tired of hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. if anyone can find a way to live successfully and happily and succeed while dealing and living with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. and ENJOY!!!.. But what about those of us, and I suspect there are many many more of us than them... who just manage to get by and we still keep plodding our way.. and living and dealing with the MonSter.... Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone please pass the cheeseHUGS |)onna

Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are you doing to stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!hugs

SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.

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And just

think.. 30 or so years ago.. some people considered us..

"blessed"..

HUGS

|)onna

I hearya, that is why I stopped wearing a bra,

every time I took it off people thought they heard

the twin sonic booms from the space shuttle

re-entry...

~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

-------Original

Message-------

From:

|)onna

Date:

9/30/2010 1:20:42 PM

To:

MSersLife

Subject:

Re: update time folks! - |)onna's

update... AKA Someone please pass the cheese!

Thanks.. I needed that..

And it seems that my chin extends to where my

boobies used to be.. and those extended to where

my tummy used to be.. and that in fact has dropped

as well.. no wonder my a$$ feels like it's

draggin'! LOL

HUGS

|)onna

Try yam cream for the hot flashes,

you apply a little to (if I remember

correctly, it has been awhile) under

your chin(s) . It really helps.There's

your cheese and whine...

~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

-------Original

Message-------

From: |)onna

Date:

9/30/2010 11:16:59 AM

To: MSersLife

Subject: Re:

update time folks! -

|)onna's update... AKA Someone

please pass the cheese!

To go with my

whine...

Couldn't put my name in

parentheses because then I

definitely look like a butt!!!

See what I mean??? (|)onna

And I'm gonna whine in my

update.. LOL

It's raining, it's pouring.. the

dogs are using my couch &

chairs as their Porta-!!!

(and they do it when I'm not

looking.. and are sneakily quiet

as well).. Bark at me to go

outside.. get out on the porch

after much ta-do with the chair

[why is it that my living room

has become an obstacle course?]

and then stand and look at me

like... "It's wet out there..

Are YOU NUTS???"

Along with all that rain comes

dampness.. And I know that

"not thinking" decided it would

be a great time to run the

dishwasher AND the dryer this

morning... to add a little extra

"warmth" to the house, so that I

wouldn't need the furnace to be

kicked on to warm it up in

here.. Not thinking that he just

compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now..

don't get me wrong.. in the

winter time.. when it's cold

outside and the furnace is

running a bunch.. the dry heat

is a bit much on the sinus' so

having the dishwasher or dryer

humidify the place is nice..

just not today... I already ache

from the cold damp.. (Guess he

figures warm damp is better?

LOL)..

I didn't even get to enjoy my

coffee while it was hot this

morning... because that only

raised my internal temperature

to way above boiling.... Wish

they could do something to fix

the screwing up of the internal

thermostat for we MSers.. We

can't find a happy medium in

this house.. I gotta freeze for

to be comfortable.. or he's

got strip to skivvies for me to

be comfortable... He would get

nekkid.. cept he insists that

the neighbors could see him in

the house that way.. They'd have

to stand ON the porch with their

noses pressed up against the

window to see in here!!! And no

one sez he has to get up and

boogie in front of that window

either.. LOL..

Anybody have any inkling as to

whether one can start the hot

flashes of menopause long before

the "visitor" stops visiting?..

But then again.. I thought "hot

flashes" were just that..

"flashes"..

Earl may be coming to stay with

us.. on a semi-permanent basis..

He stays now while he's working

with to set monuments and

other things in which might

need a hand. He's also got a

friend of a friend who is

looking into getting him a

"full-time" job working at a

local company.. actually within

walking distance as the bird

flies.. and even without the

bird flies path, at his age.. IF

he would need to walk (ya know..

snow knee deep.. to the Jolly

Green Giant type stuff)..

Him coming to stay.. will be...

well I'm not sure what it will

be.. definitely helpful, for the

most part.. might have to ask..

but I CAN get back to using

"guilt" to get things done for

me, by him.. <grin>.. It

will be company on the days he

isn't working.. and it is ALWAYS

a pleasure to see him come.. and

sometimes a pleasure to see him

leave as well.. However, I would

think the same holds true on his

side of the fence...

He might have to.. if working

full time.. help out with the

grocery bill around here.. or at

the very least buy his own

snacking stuff.. cause I've

never known anybody who can eat

as much as he does.. and NOT

weigh as much as me.. LOL...

Both of the boys were that

way... Make one of those HUGE

stock pots of vegetable soup (or

any type of soup).. and they

could clean it out in one

evening!..

Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash..

now that the dryer and

dishwasher have shut off.. it's

cooling down in the bedroom..

I'm staying in here today.. dark

and dreary as it is.. because my

foot needs a break from being

sat on in the computer chair..

and I keep putting on and

rubbing in some Diabeti-Derm

cream I found in the store..

hoping to prevent a pressure

sore on my foot..

How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting

depression.. pissed off

sometimes, down in the dumps

other times.. might get by

without either of those.. IF I

can find something interesting

to watch on Project Free TV, or

something to get my mind off how

lousy I feel, or things

aching... Can't for the life of

me think of a reason for my

right knee, a year and a half

AFTER the hard fall, to start

acting up.. but it is.. And of

course my hips are even more

painful now following the knee

injuries last year.. because

those have altered my gait even

more so..

Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for

that pain and inflammation,

thinking it is most likely some

type of arthritis in there..

from 52 years of falls,

accidents and abuse.. do have an

order for an X-Ray.. (as well as

a myriad of other tests that my

PCP would like to see done..

might pass again on the

colonoscopy though.. unless

can figure out how to make the

"prep" period semi-humane)

I do have the music CD's (still)

to finish putting together.. to

keep me busy.. DID get the music

from his old cassettes set up

for CD, and in CD quality.. and

those are finished.. want to put

together some others so old that

I'm sure he hasn't heard them in

many years.. but will remember

as soon as he hears them.. It's

nice to bring good memories to

others..

I started working on the family

tree once again.. and that

should keep me busy for awhile..

especially if I start to obsess

over it.. make it a passion..

(though I do have to admit.. my

passion for it, still hasn't

completely returned after losing

Bud)... Sunday would have been

his 36th birthday.. that might

also have something to do with

the moods right now as well..

The passion for it started..

shortly after he was born.. I

wanted to give him something of

his roots... some sense of where

he came from.. so it seems to be

a moot point right now.. but I

keep plugging away at it..

looking for new resources...

Keep thinking that I want to

write a book.. only I'm not sure

just what type of book I want to

write.. We have so many

"inspiring" stories about people

succeeding and getting around

the MonSter.. I'm really kind of

tired of hearing those inspiring

stories.. Don't get me wrong..

if anyone can find a way to live

successfully and happily and

succeed while dealing and living

with the MonSter.. I say MORE

POWER TO THEM.. and ENJOY!!!..

But what about those of us, and

I suspect there are many many

more of us than them... who just

manage to get by and we still

keep plodding our way.. and

living and dealing with the

MonSter....

Well..now that we've had enough

of my whine session... someone

please pass the cheese

HUGS

|)onna

Okay everyone!

Time for an update. How are you?

What are you doing to stay busy?

What TV shows do you watch? Fill

us all in!

hugs

Sharon

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*snort*

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~*~Akiba~*~

-- Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... AKA Someone please pass the cheese!

To go with my whine...Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely look like a butt!!! See what I mean??? (|)onna And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOLIt's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch & chairs as their Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not looking.. and are sneakily quiet as well).. Bark at me to go outside.. get out on the porch after much ta-do with the chair [why is it that my living room has become an obstacle course?] and then stand and look at me like... "It's wet out there.. Are YOU NUTS???" Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that "not thinking" decided it would be a great time to run the dishwasher AND the dryer this morning... to add a little extra "warmth" to the house, so that I wouldn't need the furnace to be kicked on to warm it up in here.. Not thinking that he just compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me wrong.. in the winter time.. when it's cold outside and the furnace is running a bunch.. the dry heat is a bit much on the sinus' so having the dishwasher or dryer humidify the place is nice.. just not today... I already ache from the cold damp.. (Guess he figures warm damp is better? LOL).. I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this morning... because that only raised my internal temperature to way above boiling.... Wish they could do something to fix the screwing up of the internal thermostat for we MSers.. We can't find a happy medium in this house.. I gotta freeze for to be comfortable.. or he's got strip to skivvies for me to be comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept he insists that the neighbors could see him in the house that way.. They'd have to stand ON the porch with their noses pressed up against the window to see in here!!! And no one sez he has to get up and boogie in front of that window either.. LOL.. Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot flashes of menopause long before the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But then again.. I thought "hot flashes" were just that.. "flashes".. Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent basis.. He stays now while he's working with to set monuments and other things in which might need a hand. He's also got a friend of a friend who is looking into getting him a "full-time" job working at a local company.. actually within walking distance as the bird flies.. and even without the bird flies path, at his age.. IF he would need to walk (ya know.. snow knee deep.. to the Jolly Green Giant type stuff).. Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will be.. definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask.. but I CAN get back to using "guilt" to get things done for me, by him.. <grin>.. It will be company on the days he isn't working.. and it is ALWAYS a pleasure to see him come.. and sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as well.. However, I would think the same holds true on his side of the fence...He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the grocery bill around here.. or at the very least buy his own snacking stuff.. cause I've never known anybody who can eat as much as he does.. and NOT weigh as much as me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way... Make one of those HUGE stock pots of vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. and they could clean it out in one evening!.. Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and dishwasher have shut off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying in here today.. dark and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs a break from being sat on in the computer chair.. and I keep putting on and rubbing in some Diabeti-Derm cream I found in the store.. hoping to prevent a pressure sore on my foot.. How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off sometimes, down in the dumps other times.. might get by without either of those.. IF I can find something interesting to watch on Project Free TV, or something to get my mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching... Can't for the life of me think of a reason for my right knee, a year and a half AFTER the hard fall, to start acting up.. but it is.. And of course my hips are even more painful now following the knee injuries last year.. because those have altered my gait even more so.. Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation, thinking it is most likely some type of arthritis in there.. from 52 years of falls, accidents and abuse.. do have an order for an X-Ray.. (as well as a myriad of other tests that my PCP would like to see done.. might pass again on the colonoscopy though.. unless can figure out how to make the "prep" period semi-humane)I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting together.. to keep me busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up for CD, and in CD quality.. and those are finished.. want to put together some others so old that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many years.. but will remember as soon as he hears them.. It's nice to bring good memories to others..I started working on the family tree once again.. and that should keep me busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over it.. make it a passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my passion for it, still hasn't completely returned after losing Bud)... Sunday would have been his 36th birthday.. that might also have something to do with the moods right now as well.. The passion for it started.. shortly after he was born.. I wanted to give him something of his roots... some sense of where he came from.. so it seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep plugging away at it.. looking for new resources... Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure just what type of book I want to write.. We have so many "inspiring" stories about people succeeding and getting around the MonSter.. I'm really kind of tired of hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. if anyone can find a way to live successfully and happily and succeed while dealing and living with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. and ENJOY!!!.. But what about those of us, and I suspect there are many many more of us than them... who just manage to get by and we still keep plodding our way.. and living and dealing with the MonSter.... Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone please pass the cheeseHUGS |)onna

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yes you day is just like mine, herb did the dish washer, and the drier, it was funny ( lol) but i can not rem it now ( lol) i hope you feel better>>i wish you peace

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ROFLMHO! You are TOO funny, Akiba!love ya sis, Kateps that roommate show up yet? Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... AKA > Someoneplease pass the cheese!> > > To go with my whine...> > Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely > look like a> butt!!! > > See what I mean??? (|)onna > > And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOL> > It's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch & > chairs as their> Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not looking.. and are > sneakily quiet> as well).. Bark at me to go outside.. get out on the porch after > much ta-do> with the chair [why is it that my living room has become an obstacle> course?] and then stand and look at me like... "It's wet out > there.. Are> YOU NUTS???" > > Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that > "not thinking> decided it would be a great time to run the dishwasher AND the > dryer this> morning... to add a little extra "warmth" to the house, so that > I wouldn't> need the furnace to be kicked on to warm it up in here.. Not > thinking that> he just compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me wrong.. in > the winter> time.. when it's cold outside and the furnace is running a > bunch.. the dry> heat is a bit much on the sinus' so having the dishwasher or > dryer humidify> the place is nice.. just not today... I already ache from the > cold damp..> (Guess he figures warm damp is better? LOL).. > > I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this morning...> because that only raised my internal temperature to way above > boiling....Wish they could do something to fix the screwing up > of the internal> thermostat for we MSers.. We can't find a happy medium in this > house.. I> gotta freeze for to be comfortable.. or he's got strip to > skivvies for> me to be comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept he insists > that the> neighbors could see him in the house that way.. They'd have to > stand ON the> porch with their noses pressed up against the window to see in > here!!! And> no one sez he has to get up and boogie in front of that window > either.. LOL.> > > Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot > flashes of> menopause long before the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But then > again.. I> thought "hot flashes" were just that.. "flashes".. > > Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent basis.. > He stays> now while he's working with to set monuments and other > things in which> might need a hand. He's also got a friend of a friend who > is looking> into getting him a "full-time" job working at a local company.. > actuallywithin walking distance as the bird flies.. and even > without the bird flies> path, at his age.. IF he would need to walk (ya know.. snow knee > deep.. to> the Jolly Green Giant type stuff).. > > Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will be..> definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask.. but > I CAN get> back to using "guilt" to get things done for me, by him.. > .. It will> be company on the days he isn't working.. and it is ALWAYS a > pleasure to see> him come.. and sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as well.. > However, I> would think the same holds true on his side of the fence...> > He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the > grocery bill> around here.. or at the very least buy his own snacking stuff.. > cause I've> never known anybody who can eat as much as he does.. and NOT > weigh as much> as me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way... Make one of > those HUGE> stock pots of vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. and they > could clean it> out in one evening!.. > > Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and dishwasher > have shut> off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying in here > today.. dark> and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs a break from being > sat on in the> computer chair.. and I keep putting on and rubbing in some > Diabeti-Derm> cream I found in the store.. hoping to prevent a pressure sore > on my foot.. > > How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off sometimes, > down in the> dumps other times.. might get by without either of those.. IF I > can find> something interesting to watch on Project Free TV, or something > to get my> mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching... Can't for the > life of me> think of a reason for my right knee, a year and a half AFTER the > hard fall,> to start acting up.. but it is.. And of course my hips are even > more painful> now following the knee injuries last year.. because those have > altered my> gait even more so.. > > Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation, > thinking it is> most likely some type of arthritis in there.. from 52 years of falls,> accidents and abuse.. do have an order for an X-Ray.. (as well > as a myriad> of other tests that my PCP would like to see done.. might pass > again on the> colonoscopy though.. unless can figure out how to make the "prep"> period semi-humane)> > I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting together.. to > keep me> busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up for CD, > and in CD> quality.. and those are finished.. want to put together some > others so old> that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many years.. but will > remember as soon> as he hears them.. It's nice to bring good memories to others..> > I started working on the family tree once again.. and that > should keep me> busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over it.. make > it a> passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my passion for it, still hasn't> completely returned after losing Bud)... Sunday would have been > his 36th> birthday.. that might also have something to do with the moods > right now as> well.. The passion for it started.. shortly after he was born.. > I wanted to> give him something of his roots... some sense of where he came > from.. so it> seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep plugging away at it..> looking for new resources... > > Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure > just what type> of book I want to write.. We have so many "inspiring" stories > about people> succeeding and getting around the MonSter.. I'm really kind of > tired of> hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. if anyone > can find a> way to live successfully and happily and succeed while dealing > and living> with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. and ENJOY!!!.. But > what about> those of us, and I suspect there are many many more of us than > them... who> just manage to get by and we still keep plodding our way.. and > living and> dealing with the MonSter.... > > Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone > please pass> the cheese> > HUGS > |)onna> > > > > > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are you > doing to> stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!> > hugs> > > Sharon> This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations > in spelling> and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in > no way are to> be considered flaws or defects.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kate

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She sure did. She's nice, a little younger them I am, has been a court reporter for the last 30 years.

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-- Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... AKA Someone please pass the cheese!

ROFLMHO! You are TOO funny, Akiba!love ya sis, Kateps that roommate show up yet? Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... AKA > Someoneplease pass the cheese!> > > To go with my whine...> > Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely > look like a> butt!!! > > See what I mean??? (|)onna > > And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOL> > It's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch & > chairs as their> Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not looking.. and are > sneakily quiet> as well).. Bark at me to go outside.. get out on the porch after > much ta-do> with the chair [why is it that my living room has become an obstacle> course?] and then stand and look at me like... "It's wet out > there.. Are> YOU NUTS???" > > Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that > "not thinking> decided it would be a great time to run the dishwasher AND the > dryer this> morning... to add a little extra "warmth" to the house, so that > I wouldn't> need the furnace to be kicked on to warm it up in here.. Not > thinking that> he just compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me wrong.. in > the winter> time.. when it's cold outside and the furnace is running a > bunch.. the dry> heat is a bit much on the sinus' so having the dishwasher or > dryer humidify> the place is nice.. just not today... I already ache from the > cold damp..> (Guess he figures warm damp is better? LOL).. > > I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this morning...> because that only raised my internal temperature to way above > boiling....Wish they could do something to fix the screwing up > of the internal> thermostat for we MSers.. We can't find a happy medium in this > house.. I> gotta freeze for to be comfortable.. or he's got strip to > skivvies for> me to be comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept he insists > that the> neigh bors could see him in the house that way.. They'd have to > stand ON the> porch with their noses pressed up against the window to see in > here!!! And> no one sez he has to get up and boogie in front of that window > either.. LOL.> > > Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot > flashes of> menopause long before the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But then > again.. I> thought "hot flashes" were just that.. "flashes".. > > Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent basis.. > He stays> now while he's working with to set monuments and other > things in which> might need a hand. He's also got a friend of a friend who > is looking> into getting him a "full-time" job working at a local company.. > actuallywithin walking distance as the bird flies.. and even > without the bird flies> ; path, at his age.. IF he would need to walk (ya know.. snow knee > deep.. to> the Jolly Green Giant type stuff).. > > Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will be..> definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask.. but > I CAN get> back to using "guilt" to get things done for me, by him.. > .. It will> be company on the days he isn't working.. and it is ALWAYS a > pleasure to see> him come.. and sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as well.. > However, I> would think the same holds true on his side of the fence...> > He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the > grocery bill> around here.. or at the very least buy his own snacking stuff.. > cause I've> never known anybody who can eat as much as he does.. and NOT > weigh as much> as me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way ... Make one of > those HUGE> stock pots of vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. and they > could clean it> out in one evening!.. > > Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and dishwasher > have shut> off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying in here > today.. dark> and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs a break from being > sat on in the> computer chair.. and I keep putting on and rubbing in some > Diabeti-Derm> cream I found in the store.. hoping to prevent a pressure sore > on my foot.. > > How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off sometimes, > down in the> dumps other times.. might get by without either of those.. IF I > can find> something interesting to watch on Project Free TV, or something > to get my> mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching... Can't for the > life of me> think of a reason for my right knee, a year and a half AFTER the > hard fall,> to start acting up.. but it is.. And of course my hips are even > more painful> now following the knee injuries last year.. because those have > altered my> gait even more so.. > > Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation, > thinking it is> most likely some type of arthritis in there.. from 52 years of falls,> accidents and abuse.. do have an order for an X-Ray.. (as well > as a myriad> of other tests that my PCP would like to see done.. might pass > again on the> colonoscopy though.. unless can figure out how to make the "prep"> period semi-humane)> > I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting together.. to > keep me> busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up for CD, > and in CD> q uality.. and those are finished.. want to put together some > others so old> that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many years.. but will > remember as soon> as he hears them.. It's nice to bring good memories to others..> > I started working on the family tree once again.. and that > should keep me> busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over it.. make > it a> passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my passion for it, still hasn't> completely returned after losing Bud)... Sunday would have been > his 36th> birthday.. that might also have something to do with the moods > right now as> well.. The passion for it started.. shortly after he was born.. > I wanted to> give him something of his roots... some sense of where he came > from.. so it> seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep plugging away at it..> looking for new res ources... > > Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure > just what type> of book I want to write.. We have so many "inspiring" stories > about people> succeeding and getting around the MonSter.. I'm really kind of > tired of> hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. if anyone > can find a> way to live successfully and happily and succeed while dealing > and living> with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. and ENJOY!!!.. But > what about> those of us, and I suspect there are many many more of us than > them... who> just manage to get by and we still keep plodding our way.. and > living and> dealing with the MonSter.... > > Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone > please pass> the cheese> > HUGS > |)onna> > > > > > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are you > doing to> stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!> > hugs> > > Sharon> This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations > in spelling> and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in > no way are to> be considered flaws or defects.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kate

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Veerry nice, Akiba! She's putting some $ into the 'pot' of rent,yes?Sounds like she's been a real, solid and steady person.I'm happy for you sweetie!love to you my friend, Kate Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... > AKA > > Someoneplease pass the cheese!> > > > > > To go with my whine...> > > > Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely > > look like a> > butt!!! > > > > See what I mean??? (|)onna > > > > And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOL> > > > It's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch & > > chairs as their> > Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not looking.. and are > > sneakily quiet> > as well).. Bark at me to go outside.. get out on the porch > after > > much ta-do> > with the chair [why is it that my living room has become an obstacle> > course?] and then stand and look at me like... "It's wet out > > there.. Are> > YOU NUTS???" > > > > Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that > > "not thinking> > decided it would be a great time to run the dishwasher AND the > > dryer this> > morning... to add a little extra "warmth" to the house, so > that > > I wouldn't> > need the furnace to be kicked on to warm it up in here.. Not > > thinking that> > he just compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me wrong.. > in > > the winter> > time.. when it's cold outside and the furnace is running a > > bunch.. the dry> > heat is a bit much on the sinus' so having the dishwasher or > > dryer humidify> > the place is nice.. just not today... I already ache from the > > cold damp..> > (Guess he figures warm damp is better? LOL).. > > > > I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this > morning...> because that only raised my internal temperature to > way above > > boiling....Wish they could do something to fix the screwing up > > of the internal> > thermostat for we MSers.. We can't find a happy medium in this > > house.. I> > gotta freeze for to be comfortable.. or he's got strip to > > skivvies for> > me to be comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept he insists > > that the> > neigh bors could see him in the house that way.. They'd have > to > > stand ON the> > porch with their noses pressed up against the window to see in > > here!!! And> > no one sez he has to get up and boogie in front of that window > > either.. LOL.> > > > > > Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot > > flashes of> > menopause long before the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But then > > again.. I> > thought "hot flashes" were just that.. "flashes".. > > > > Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent > basis.. > > He stays> > now while he's working with to set monuments and other > > things in which> > might need a hand. He's also got a friend of a friend who > > is looking> > into getting him a "full-time" job working at a local > company.. > > actuallywithin walking distance as the bird flies.. and even > > without the bird flies> > ; path, at his age.. IF he would need to walk (ya know.. snow > knee > > deep.. to> > the Jolly Green Giant type stuff).. > > > > Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will be..> > definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask.. > but > > I CAN get> > back to using "guilt" to get things done for me, by him.. > > .. It will> > be company on the days he isn't working.. and it is ALWAYS a > > pleasure to see> > him come.. and sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as well.. > > However, I> > would think the same holds true on his side of the fence...> > > > He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the > > grocery bill> > around here.. or at the very least buy his own snacking > stuff.. > > cause I've> > never known anybody who can eat as much as he does.. and NOT > > weigh as much> > as me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way ... Make one of > > those HUGE> > stock pots of vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. and they > > could clean it> > out in one evening!.. > > > > Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and > dishwasher > > have shut> > off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying in here > > today.. dark> > and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs a break from being > > sat on in the> > computer chair.. and I keep putting on and rubbing in some > > Diabeti-Derm> > cream I found in the store.. hoping to prevent a pressure sore > > on my foot.. > > > > How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off > sometimes, > > down in the> > dumps other times.. might get by without either of those.. IF > I > > can find> > something interesting to watch on Project Free TV, or > something > > to get my> > mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching... Can't for the > > life of me> > think of a reason for my right knee, a year and a half AFTER > the > > hard fall,> > to start acting up.. but it is.. And of course my hips are > even > > more painful> > now following the knee injuries last year.. because those have > > altered my> > gait even more so.. > > > > Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation, > > thinking it is> > most likely some type of arthritis in there.. from 52 years of > falls,> accidents and abuse.. do have an order for an X-Ray.. > (as well > > as a myriad> > of other tests that my PCP would like to see done.. might pass > > again on the> > colonoscopy though.. unless can figure out how to make > the "prep"> > period semi-humane)> > > > I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting together.. > to > > keep me> > busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up for CD, > > and in CD> > q uality.. and those are finished.. want to put together some > > others so old> > that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many years.. but will > > remember as soon> > as he hears them.. It's nice to bring good memories to others..> > > > I started working on the family tree once again.. and that > > should keep me> > busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over it.. > make > > it a> > passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my passion for it, > still hasn't> > completely returned after losing Bud)... Sunday would have > been > > his 36th> > birthday.. that might also have something to do with the moods > > right now as> > well.. The passion for it started.. shortly after he was > born.. > > I wanted to> > give him something of his roots... some sense of where he came > > from.. so it> > seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep plugging away > at it..> > looking for new res ources... > > > > Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure > > just what type> > of book I want to write.. We have so many "inspiring" stories > > about people> > succeeding and getting around the MonSter.. I'm really kind of > > tired of> > hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. if > anyone > > can find a> > way to live successfully and happily and succeed while dealing > > and living> > with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. and ENJOY!!!.. > But > > what about> > those of us, and I suspect there are many many more of us than > > them... who> > just manage to get by and we still keep plodding our way.. and > > living and> > dealing with the MonSter.... > > > > Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone > > please pass> > the cheese> > > > HUGS > > |)onna> > > > > > > > > > > > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are you > > doing to> > stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!> > > > hugs> > > > > > Sharon> > This email is a natural hand made product. 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Dear DonnaI agree with you that your mood probably has something to do with Bud's birthday. (((big hugs to you)))It is nice to read stories about MSers who are having a wonderful life and very little disability. But it does get a little old. I thought I was the only one who felt like that! lol We are a pissy pair, you and I! Oh no... you just had to mention the G word! You knew that would get me going again, didn't you? I haven't been real active in my genealogy research for a long time. But now I swear Ancestry.com is trying to suck me back. In the past two weeks I have gotten two messages through Ancestry.com from people who are researching the same

family members I am. One was someone who gave me a link to a photo of my 3rd great grandfather's gravestone. Then a few days ago I got a message through Ancestry.com from a second cousin I had never heard from before. We have been writing back and forth, sharing photos and info. I have decided I will subscribe to Ancestry.com again when I get my check in October. So Ancestry was successful at dragging me back in the fold. roflKeep writing with us, Donna. We need to hear from you and I think you need to hear from us!love and hugs SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way

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To go with

my whine...

Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely

look like a butt!!!

See what I mean??? (|)onna

And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOL

It's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch &

chairs as their Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not

looking.. and are sneakily quiet as well).. Bark at me to go

outside.. get out on the porch after much ta-do with the chair

[why is it that my living room has become an obstacle course?]

and then stand and look at me like... "It's wet out there.. Are

YOU NUTS???"

Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that

"not thinking" decided it would be a great time to run the

dishwasher AND the dryer this morning... to add a little extra

"warmth" to the house, so that I wouldn't need the furnace to be

kicked on to warm it up in here.. Not thinking that he just

compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me wrong.. in the

winter time.. when it's cold outside and the furnace is running

a bunch.. the dry heat is a bit much on the sinus' so having the

dishwasher or dryer humidify the place is nice.. just not

today... I already ache from the cold damp.. (Guess he figures

warm damp is better? LOL)..

I didn't even get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this

morning... because that only raised my internal temperature to

way above boiling.... Wish they could do something to fix the

screwing up of the internal thermostat for we MSers.. We can't

find a happy medium in this house.. I gotta freeze for to

be comfortable.. or he's got strip to skivvies for me to be

comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept he insists that the

neighbors could see him in the house that way.. They'd have to

stand ON the porch with their noses pressed up against the

window to see in here!!! And no one sez he has to get up and

boogie in front of that window either.. LOL..

Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot

flashes of menopause long before the "visitor" stops

visiting?.. But then again.. I thought "hot flashes" were just

that.. "flashes"..

Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent basis..

He stays now while he's working with to set monuments and

other things in which might need a hand. He's also got a

friend of a friend who is looking into getting him a "full-time"

job working at a local company.. actually within walking

distance as the bird flies.. and even without the bird flies

path, at his age.. IF he would need to walk (ya know.. snow knee

deep.. to the Jolly Green Giant type stuff)..

Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will

be.. definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask..

but I CAN get back to using "guilt" to get things done for me,

by him.. <grin>.. It will be company on the days he isn't

working.. and it is ALWAYS a pleasure to see him come.. and

sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as well.. However, I would

think the same holds true on his side of the fence...

He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the

grocery bill around here.. or at the very least buy his own

snacking stuff.. cause I've never known anybody who can eat as

much as he does.. and NOT weigh as much as me.. LOL... Both of

the boys were that way... Make one of those HUGE stock pots of

vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. and they could clean it

out in one evening!..

Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and dishwasher

have shut off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying

in here today.. dark and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs

a break from being sat on in the computer chair.. and I keep

putting on and rubbing in some Diabeti-Derm cream I found in the

store.. hoping to prevent a pressure sore on my foot..

How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off sometimes,

down in the dumps other times.. might get by without either of

those.. IF I can find something interesting to watch on Project

Free TV, or something to get my mind off how lousy I feel, or

things aching... Can't for the life of me think of a reason for

my right knee, a year and a half AFTER the hard fall, to start

acting up.. but it is.. And of course my hips are even more

painful now following the knee injuries last year.. because

those have altered my gait even more so..

Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation,

thinking it is most likely some type of arthritis in there..

from 52 years of falls, accidents and abuse.. do have an order

for an X-Ray.. (as well as a myriad of other tests that my PCP

would like to see done.. might pass again on the colonoscopy

though.. unless can figure out how to make the "prep"

period semi-humane)

I do have the music CD's (still) to finish putting together.. to

keep me busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up

for CD, and in CD quality.. and those are finished.. want to put

together some others so old that I'm sure he hasn't heard them

in many years.. but will remember as soon as he hears them..

It's nice to bring good memories to others..

I started working on the family tree once again.. and that

should keep me busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess

over it.. make it a passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my

passion for it, still hasn't completely returned after losing

Bud)... Sunday would have been his 36th birthday.. that might

also have something to do with the moods right now as well.. The

passion for it started.. shortly after he was born.. I wanted to

give him something of his roots... some sense of where he came

from.. so it seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep

plugging away at it.. looking for new resources...

Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure

just what type of book I want to write.. We have so many

"inspiring" stories about people succeeding and getting around

the MonSter.. I'm really kind of tired of hearing those

inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. if anyone can find a

way to live successfully and happily and succeed while dealing

and living with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. and

ENJOY!!!.. But what about those of us, and I suspect there are

many many more of us than them... who just manage to get by and

we still keep plodding our way.. and living and dealing with the

MonSter....

Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone

please pass the cheese

HUGS

|)onna

Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are

you? What are you doing to stay busy? What TV shows do you

watch? Fill us all in!

hugs

Sharon

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Well she hasn't paid me so far but I know she is a bit close to the bone this month and she will be paying me as she can, and also helping with housework and laundry and the like

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~*~Akiba~*~

-- Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... AKA Someone please pass the cheese!

Veerry nice, Akiba! She's putting some $ into the 'pot' of rent,yes?Sounds like she's been a real, solid and steady person.I'm happy for you sweetie!love to you my friend, Kate Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... > AKA > > Someoneplease pass the cheese!> > > > > > To go with my whine...> > > > Couldn't put my name in parentheses because then I definitely > > look like a> > butt!!! > > > > See what I mean??? (|)onna > > > > And I'm gonna whine in my update.. LOL> > > > It's raining, it's pouring.. the dogs are using my couch & > > chairs as their> > Porta-!!! (and they do it when I'm not looking.. and are > > sneakily quiet> > as well).. Bark at me to go outside.. get out on the porch > after > > much ta-do> > with the chair [why is it that my living room has become an obstacle> > course?] and then stand and look at me like... "It's wet out > > there.. Are> > YOU NUTS???" > > > > Along with all that rain comes dampness.. And I know that > > "not thinking> > decided it would be a great time to run the dishwasher AND the > > dryer this> > morning... to add a little extra "warmth" to the house, so > that > > I wouldn't> > need the furnace to be kicked on to warm it up in here.. Not > > thinking that> > he just compounded the DAMP!!!!... Now.. don't get me wrong.. > in > > the winter> > time.. when it's cold outside and the furnace is running a > > bunch.. the dry> > heat is a bit much on the sinus' so having the dishwasher or > > dryer humidify> > the place is nice.. just not today... I already ache from the > > cold damp..> > (Guess he figures warm damp is better? LOL).. > > > > I didn't eve n get to enjoy my coffee while it was hot this > morning...> because that only raised my internal temperature to > way above > > boiling....Wish they could do something to fix the screwing up > > of the internal> > thermostat for we MSers.. We can't find a happy medium in this > > house.. I> > gotta freeze for to be comfortable.. or he's got strip to > > skivvies for> > me to be comfortable... He would get nekkid.. cept he insists > > that the> > neigh bors could see him in the house that way.. They'd have > to > > stand ON the> > porch with their noses pressed up against the window to see in > > here!!! And> > no one sez he has to get up and boogie in front of that window > > either.. LOL.> > > > > > Anybody have any inkling as to whether one can start the hot > > flas hes of> > menopause long before the "visitor" stops visiting?.. But then > > again.. I> > thought "hot flashes" were just that.. "flashes".. > > > > Earl may be coming to stay with us.. on a semi-permanent > basis.. > > He stays> > now while he's working with to set monuments and other > > things in which> > might need a hand. He's also got a friend of a friend who > > is looking> > into getting him a "full-time" job working at a local > company.. > > actuallywithin walking distance as the bird flies.. and even > > without the bird flies> > ; path, at his age.. IF he would need to walk (ya know.. snow > knee > > deep.. to> > the Jolly Green Giant type stuff).. > > > > Him coming to stay.. will be... well I'm not sure what it will be..> > definitely helpful, for the most part.. might have to ask.. > but > > I CAN get> > back to using "guilt" to get things done for me, by him.. > > .. It will> > be company on the days he isn't working.. and it is ALWAYS a > > pleasure to see> > him come.. and sometimes a pleasure to see him leave as well.. > > However, I> > would think the same holds true on his side of the fence...> > > > He might have to.. if working full time.. help out with the > > grocery bill> > around here.. or at the very least buy his own snacking > stuff.. > > cause I've> > never known anybody who can eat as much as he does.. and NOT > > weigh as much> > as me.. LOL... Both of the boys were that way ... Make one of > > those HUGE> > stock pots of vegetable soup (or any type of soup).. and they > > could clean it> > out in one evening!.. > > > > Whoa!!!!!.. not a hot flash.. now that the dryer and > dishwasher > > have shut> > off.. it's cooling down in the bedroom.. I'm staying in here > > today.. dark> > and dreary as it is.. because my foot needs a break from being > > sat on in the> > computer chair.. and I keep putting on and rubbing in some > > Diabeti-Derm> > cream I found in the store.. hoping to prevent a pressure sore > > on my foot.. > > > > How am I?.. Hmmmm.. fighting depression.. pissed off > sometimes, > > down in the> > dumps other times.. might get by without either of those.. IF > I > > can find> > something interesting to watch on Project Free TV, or > something > > to get my> > mind off how lousy I feel, or things aching... Can't for the > > life of me> > think of a reason for my right knee, a year and a half AFTER > the > > hard fall,> > to start acting up.. but it is.. And of course my hips are > even > > more painful> > now following the knee injuries last year.. because those have > > altered my> > gait even more so.. > > > > Yes, I was prescribed Lodine for that pain and inflammation, > > thinking it is> > most likely some type of arthritis in there.. from 52 years of > falls,> accidents and abuse.. do have an order for an X-Ray.. > (as well > > as a myriad> > of other tests that my PCP would like to see done.. might pass > > again on the> > colonoscopy though.. unless can figure out how to make > the "prep"> > period semi-humane)> > > > I do have the music CD's (still) to finish put ting together.. > to > > keep me> > busy.. DID get the music from his old cassettes set up for CD, > > and in CD> > q uality.. and those are finished.. want to put together some > > others so old> > that I'm sure he hasn't heard them in many years.. but will > > remember as soon> > as he hears them.. It's nice to bring good memories to others..> > > > I started working on the family tree once again.. and that > > should keep me> > busy for awhile.. especially if I start to obsess over it.. > make > > it a> > passion.. (though I do have to admit.. my passion for it, > still hasn't> > completely returned after losing Bud)... Sunday would have > been > > his 36th> > birthday.. that might also have something to do with the moods > > right now as> > well.. The passi on for it started.. shortly after he was > born.. > > I wanted to> > give him something of his roots... some sense of where he came > > from.. so it> > seems to be a moot point right now.. but I keep plugging away > at it..> > looking for new res ources... > > > > Keep thinking that I want to write a book.. only I'm not sure > > just what type> > of book I want to write.. We have so many "inspiring" stories > > about people> > succeeding and getting around the MonSter.. I'm really kind of > > tired of> > hearing those inspiring stories.. Don't get me wrong.. if > anyone > > can find a> > way to live successfully and happily and succeed while dealing > > and living> > with the MonSter.. I say MORE POWER TO THEM.. and ENJOY!!!.. > But > > what about> > those of u s, and I suspect there are many many more of us than > > them... who> > just manage to get by and we still keep plodding our way.. and > > living and> > dealing with the MonSter.... > > > > Well..now that we've had enough of my whine session... someone > > please pass> > the cheese> > > > HUGS > > |)onna> > > > > > > > > > > > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are you > > doing to> > stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!> > > > hugs> > > > > > Sharon> > This email is a natural hand made product. The slight > variations > > in spelling> > and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in > > no way are to & g t; > be considered flaws or defects.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kate> > > > > Kate

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Impressed by the illustrations in the video there! As I understand from , Barbara Ehrenreich does draw on her experiences as someone living with breast cancer, and apply that to many other areas in that book. And, yes, we found out that she has many books out there, when enthusiastically recommended it to one of her bosses (who is American), he said "I have read all of her books. She is great!" But he hadn't read this particular one, though. will lend it to him, if and when he returns the DVD he is currently (since the last 6 months...) having on loan from her... They do exchange a lot of books and movies, tend to have similar taste. I think those inspiring stories are meant to be a kind of pep-talk. But I think what they don't understand is that if those stories are all you get, it will only make you feel more miserable and alone/lonely, when you are not one of those very successful and lucky people. Even though you certainly are not alone! About the library, is there any way you could access their catalogue online, to see if they have it, and perhaps, if they don't, put in a request for an inter-library loan via their website/catalogue? That's what I do when I have errands to the library in the next city from here, that way I don't have to go twice. Heck, I sometimes do that with the local library too... Internet is a great invention for someone like me...It really is a shame that the things needed to improve everyday life for people with disabilities are so expensive! : ( Is there any way an insurance, or something like that, would cover at least some of those things? Our public health insurance cover some things, like adjustments of a house (widening of doorways to make it possible for a wheelchair to pass, ramps, elevator to get between floors, some bathroom adjustments, that sort of things), or a car (to make it possible for the disabled person to drive it). Although it certainly doesn't cover everything that's out there, don't think it would cover those cupboards for instance, but at least the things they do cover is a good start. Maybe you have something similar to that?OK. Taking off my advice-giving hat... Take care, and enjoy those books you'll get from the library!love/Reb> > > >> > > >> > > > Okay everyone! Time for an update. How are you? What are you doing> > > > to stay busy? What TV shows do you watch? Fill us all in!> > > >> > > > hugs> > > > Sharon> > > > This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in> > > > spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and> > > > in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >>

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Debi...

It's cooler this morning.. not "hot flashes".. so now I'm

thinking it was the dryer & dishwasher running.. this place

is only 28 x 40 foot.. so pretty small in comparison to some

homes.. but I like it.. would like it better if the dogs would

learn to pick up their toys though.. LOL

HUGS

|)onna

yes you day is just

like mine, herb did the dish washer, and the drier, it was

funny ( lol) but i can not rem it now ( lol) i hope you

feel better>>i wish you peace

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it is in the 50's today right now, i am so cold, thank G-D herb can not do the cold also...we have the heat on all yr long...set at 72...i get cold i can not move, i lock up...and her can not do the cold, i keep telling him, south man can you say south...he have the b--- to look at me and say debbi you live in south pa ....omg....i wish you peace

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Sharon,

Yup.. we're a pissy pair.. LOL... (well more than just you and I

it seems.. LOL)..

And yup, the mood does definitely have something to do with his

birthday.. and I'm going to insist that take me to the

cemetery on Sunday.. I'll clear off the summer's growth, that

I'm sure has been killed by frost by now (it is in the

mountain).. and I guess I'll have to shop for a birthday present

to leave him as well.. Something that will withstand the

winter.. And that should help a bit..

Well, if Ancestry offers you a "deal" to renew your membership..

that would be the way to go.. but they'd have to offer me a

pretty sweet deal to get me back.. have you checked their

membership fees lately? I haven't, but the last time I did..

they were a little more than I wanted to pay for all the more

time I was spending doing research.. I did tell you that

& Noble offers the e-book "The History of Bucks County"

FREE didn't I? And if your family passed through PA on their way

west.. might be something of interest for you as well.. Oh

well.. guess I need to get started on mine again as well..

Westmoreland County has their public records online now.. and I

can give you a link to their database if you need it.. Fayette

County, has of yet to get "online" with their stuff.. but I'm

looking for all I can find.. LOL..

And I'll try to keep up with the group, on a more timely basis

too..

HUGS

|)onna

Dear Donna

I agree with you that your mood probably has something to do

with Bud's birthday. (((big hugs to you)))

It is nice to read stories about MSers who are having a

wonderful life and very little disability. But it does get a

little old. I thought I was the only one who felt like that!

lol We are a pissy pair, you and I!

Oh no... you just had to mention the G word! You knew

that would get me going again, didn't you? I haven't been real

active in my genealogy research for a long time. But now I

swear Ancestry.com is trying to suck me back. In the past two

weeks I have gotten two messages through Ancestry.com from

people who are researching the same family members I am. One

was someone who gave me a link to a photo of my 3rd great

grandfather's gravestone. Then a few days ago I got a message

through Ancestry.com from a second cousin I had never heard from

before. We have been writing back and forth, sharing photos and

info. I have decided I will subscribe to Ancestry.com again

when I get my check in October. So Ancestry was successful at

dragging me back in the fold. rofl

Keep writing with us, Donna. We need to hear from you and I

think you need to hear from us!

love and hugs

Sharon

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And

keeps saying.. Nome.. Nome.. Alaska... Alaska..

I say Florida.. he sez... hurricanes and horrifying insects..

I say Texas.... he sez... hurricanes, tornadoes and horrifying

insects..

all I really want is a nice quiet climate where it stays about

72 degrees year round.. wouldn't mind a white sandy beach with

deep blue rolling waves either.. think that might be Hawaii..

but then he asks if I like eating... so... I guess it's a no

win situation.. LOL

HUGS

|)onna

it is in the 50's

today right now, i am so cold, thank G-D herb can not do

the cold also...we have the heat on all yr long...set at

72...i get cold i can not move, i lock up...and her can

not do the cold, i keep telling him, south man can you say

south...he have the b--- to look at me and say debbi you

live in south pa ....omg....i wish you peace

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DonnaI went to and Noble and saw that book you mentioned. Cool! I saw another one I want but, alas, it isn't free. It's "Early Columbia County, Pennsylvania (Images of America Series)". That's the county I almost always see in my research. Do you know if Columbia Co has records on line? I think your plans for visiting Bud's grave are the right thing to do. Sometimes it just helps. After my mother died I had some bad times and had a lot of guilt over the way I treated her when I was younger. I went to her grave, talked to her, apologized and cried a river of tears. It made things so much better for me. Now I know that's not what is wrong for you with Bud but I still think it's a good thing for

you. Stay strong!I subscribe to Ancestry.com by the month a couple times a year and only keep the subscription for a month or two. It's twenty bucks! I hate that price but I do it once in awhile and get all the info I can in that time period. I am too cheap to keep the subscription going. lolhugs SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Fri, October 1, 2010 7:48:02 AMSubject: Re: update time folks! - |)onna's update... AKA Someone please pass the cheese!

Sharon,

Yup.. we're a pissy pair.. LOL... (well more than just you and I

it seems.. LOL)..

And yup, the mood does definitely have something to do with his

birthday.. and I'm going to insist that take me to the

cemetery on Sunday.. I'll clear off the summer's growth, that

I'm sure has been killed by frost by now (it is in the

mountain).. and I guess I'll have to shop for a birthday present

to leave him as well.. Something that will withstand the

winter.. And that should help a bit..

Well, if Ancestry offers you a "deal" to renew your membership..

that would be the way to go.. but they'd have to offer me a

pretty sweet deal to get me back.. have you checked their

membership fees lately? I haven't, but the last time I did..

they were a little more than I wanted to pay for all the more

time I was spending doing research.. I did tell you that

& Noble offers the e-book "The History of Bucks County"

FREE didn't I? And if your family passed through PA on their way

west.. might be something of interest for you as well.. Oh

well.. guess I need to get started on mine again as well..

Westmoreland County has their public records online now.. and I

can give you a link to their database if you need it.. Fayette

County, has of yet to get "online" with their stuff.. but I'm

looking for all I can find.. LOL..

And I'll try to keep up with the group, on a more timely basis

too..

HUGS

|)onna

Dear Donna

I agree with you that your mood probably has something to do

with Bud's birthday. (((big hugs to you)))

It is nice to read stories about MSers who are having a

wonderful life and very little disability. But it does get a

little old. I thought I was the only one who felt like that!

lol We are a pissy pair, you and I!

Oh no... you just had to mention the G word! You knew

that would get me going again, didn't you? I haven't been real

active in my genealogy research for a long time. But now I

swear Ancestry.com is trying to suck me back. In the past two

weeks I have gotten two messages through Ancestry.com from

people who are researching the same family members I am. One

was someone who gave me a link to a photo of my 3rd great

grandfather's gravestone. Then a few days ago I got a message

through Ancestry.com from a second cousin I had never heard from

before. We have been writing back and forth, sharing photos and

info. I have decided I will subscribe to Ancestry.com again

when I get my check in October. So Ancestry was successful at

dragging me back in the fold. rofl

Keep writing with us, Donna. We need to hear from you and I

think you need to hear from us!

love and hugs

Sharon

This email is a natural hand made product.

The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its

individual character and beauty and in no way are to be

considered flaws or defects.

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