Re: MMS Re: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal

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Channa,

Hello , ý am mother from Turkey, recently ý am searching MMS and has seen your below message that your are using MMS

can you pls share your experiance with MMS, it is worked really ? is any side effect happen ?

How long you are using and how ? with MMS do you use any other supplement or any other info ý may need ?

appreciate yours.

Thanks,

Sema

To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:02:25 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal

is,

.... if it were my kid i would treat adrenals right away as any treatments parasite/bacterial ect just puts more pressure on the adrenals...you could join the recoveryfromautism yahoo group they got lot info on adrenal in their adrenal files....i will look up when i get chance and get back to you on that one..

www.goldenthreadapothecary.com they sell adrenal tonic..love love that stuff when he really needed it i was giving three dropper fulls at a time morning and night

i was also using a seaweed potion at the time which also helped..

for my son he did not have adrenal fatigue..he didnt get to that point..his symptoms were tearful crying at really little things wanting to be held all the time..and anxiety

I am using for treating bacteria miracle mineral solution..i find it great at fighting bacteria and yeast..

the wbsite i got mine is subtleenergynow... if that doesnt work let me know the real name for MMS is sodium chlorite..their is a lot of contreversy about it but i like what it does for my son..

i also use a herbal chinese blend called the snake of the dragon tea pills..

i like what they do also for bacteria...it is a real battle fighting my sons bacteria the worst strains you can have you name it he has it!!

..i havent won the battle yet so you may take my advice with a grain of salt lol

I am also doing a parasite cleanse..while fighting bacteria/mold in his body..

i treat each symptom as they come up...I dont know if that is the correct way but..if i suspect prasites i treat parasites..if i suspect adrenals i will treat that...

how is the nyastatin doing? maybe give more time...but if yeast is systemic nyastatin wont touch it..

have you tried grapeseed extract? or pau d arco?

mercury will hold on to yeast... makes it harder to get rid of from what i been told

I am really against antibiotics...but that is just my personal feeling i would try everything else first..

oh yah so if it were me the plan would go like this.

treat adrenals right away with some gentle herbs poor kid gotta calm down

then i would work on bringing in a good natural bacteria fighter..MMS is not natural but it doesnt destroy gut flora like the scripts do I could be wrong but that is my feelings on it for now....(again just my personal belief)

a lot of naturals kill bacteria and yeast at the same time!...like oil of oregano..

i know your gonna be sick of hearing me tell you to look into andy cutler chelation so i wont mention that to you again...oops.

oh...how does your son do on culturelle? really good stuff for clostidia

you a good mom is..{hugs}

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:13 PMSubject: Re: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal

Hi Channa,Awesome post on the other thread about how to cope! I wanted to ask you that if I am suspecting parasites, should I treat parasites before I deal with the adrenals? What exactly did you use for adrenals? Is it the adrenal fatigue you are pointing at? Do you recommend any reading material? Currently I am dealing with yeast overgrowth and virus. I am also thinking about clostridia as the dan literature suggests that if the child becomes cranky and aggressive while getting antifungals, it indicates clostridia growth alongwith yeast and that needs to be addressed with vancomycin/flagyl. I don't want to work on a lot of things at the same time. So I was thinking may be add something for clostridia and then work on parasites and read about adrenals in the meantime. If my plan doesn't seem right, please let me know.Thanks a lotis> >> > well for me crying all the time..sensitive to everything was definitly  adrenals...i used a adrenal tonic made with herbs..it worked really really well! ..some people used adrenal extract called ACE ..> >    how does he do on epsom salt baths? or mag supplement..that is calming too...> > um...I stopped giving my son the shots as I felt the emotional trauma didnt outweight the benefits in my personal mind.> > poor kid..> > > > > > ________________________________> > From: alexis_d3378 <alexis_d3378@>> > To: mb12valtrex > > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:04 AM> > Subject: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal> > > > > >  > > Hi everyone,> > I have recently started my son on curcumin which improved his eye contact, some of his spontaneous speech, which is usually limited to expressing his needs, came back. All the therapists noticed improvement as well. We then also started him on nystatin for yeast overgrowth and had maybe some die off but it was tolerable(probably because there is actually no die off with nystatin). My concern is that he gets anxious on and off and starts crying for no reason. He needs lots of hugs and kisses to feel better. Also, he cannot be in a room alone and I need to be in the bathroom with him otherwise he will hold his BM. He loves taking shower but gets very anxious if initial water is cold but at the same time does not have the patience for the water to get warm. He starts crying if his little sister tries to talk nonstop to him or asks him to play. Two days back, he cried a lot in shower and when I asked what happened, he said Booboo and when I asked where, he> > pointed to his chest(both right and left). I listened to his heart and his heart rate was more than 140. He was miserable and it took me few minutes to calm him down. Once we were out of shower, he started feeling better and was smiling and relaxed. This seemed liked a panic attack to me as a lot of our patients would present in similar fashion with a feeling of impending doom(classic for MI but sometimes seen in panic attacks also). It has also become very difficult to give him Mb12 shots as he resists and fights. Tried to give him in sleep but wakes up before the needle is in. Now I am not sure what should I do. He is overall doing better in school and at home with both his school work and behavior but poor guy has been getting these anxiety and fear attacks. He is very sensitive to wind and even air from fans. My feeling is that shots are causing him more pain these days as he is hypersensitive to any touch these days and probably feels more pain> > than usual. I am concerned about his chest pain also as I don't want to ignore it just because he is a child. I will be taking him to his pediatrician for atleast an evaluation. In the meantime if anyone has any suggestions for me, I will really appreciate it. I feel that he is definitely showing improvement in a lot of areas but is this just a phase that will pass?> > Thanks> > is> >>

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hi sema,

yes i was using MMS for a while and I did find it very effective fighting yeast and bacteria....however i did not continue as i felt there was some oxidative stress while on the product...(but i am not sure about this just) ...I would go back to it for severe fungal or bacteria issues that i could not handle other ways......I guess my personal conclusion was I consider it the big guns and I only like to use big guns when absolutely nessaccary.

i know some other people had experience on this maybe they can chime in...

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:57 AMSubject: RE: MMS Re: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal

Channa, Hello , ı am mother from Turkey, recently ı am searching MMS and has seen your below message that your are using MMScan you pls share your experiance with MMS, it is worked really ? is any side effect happen ?How long you are using and how ? with MMS do you use any other supplement or any other info ı may need ? appreciate yours. Thanks,Sema

To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:02:25 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal

is,

.... if it were my kid i would treat adrenals right away as any treatments parasite/bacterial ect just puts more pressure on the adrenals...you could join the recoveryfromautism yahoo group they got lot info on adrenal in their adrenal files....i will look up when i get chance and get back to you on that one..

www.goldenthreadapothecary.com they sell adrenal tonic..love love that stuff when he really needed it i was giving three dropper fulls at a time morning and night

i was also using a seaweed potion at the time which also helped..

for my son he did not have adrenal fatigue..he didnt get to that point..his symptoms were tearful crying at really little things wanting to be held all the time..and anxiety

I am using for treating bacteria miracle mineral solution..i find it great at fighting bacteria and yeast..

the wbsite i got mine is subtleenergynow... if that doesnt work let me know the real name for MMS is sodium chlorite..their is a lot of contreversy about it but i like what it does for my son..

i also use a herbal chinese blend called the snake of the dragon tea pills..

i like what they do also for bacteria...it is a real battle fighting my sons bacteria the worst strains you can have you name it he has it!!

..i havent won the battle yet so you may take my advice with a grain of salt lol

I am also doing a parasite cleanse..while fighting bacteria/mold in his body..

i treat each symptom as they come up...I dont know if that is the correct way but..if i suspect prasites i treat parasites..if i suspect adrenals i will treat that...

how is the nyastatin doing? maybe give more time...but if yeast is systemic nyastatin wont touch it..

have you tried grapeseed extract? or pau d arco?

mercury will hold on to yeast... makes it harder to get rid of from what i been told

I am really against antibiotics...but that is just my personal feeling i would try everything else first..

oh yah so if it were me the plan would go like this.

treat adrenals right away with some gentle herbs poor kid gotta calm down

then i would work on bringing in a good natural bacteria fighter..MMS is not natural but it doesnt destroy gut flora like the scripts do I could be wrong but that is my feelings on it for now....(again just my personal belief)

a lot of naturals kill bacteria and yeast at the same time!...like oil of oregano..

i know your gonna be sick of hearing me tell you to look into andy cutler chelation so i wont mention that to you again...oops.

oh...how does your son do on culturelle? really good stuff for clostidia

you a good mom is..{hugs}

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:13 PMSubject: Re: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal

Hi Channa,Awesome post on the other thread about how to cope! I wanted to ask you that if I am suspecting parasites, should I treat parasites before I deal with the adrenals? What exactly did you use for adrenals? Is it the adrenal fatigue you are pointing at? Do you recommend any reading material? Currently I am dealing with yeast overgrowth and virus. I am also thinking about clostridia as the dan literature suggests that if the child becomes cranky and aggressive while getting antifungals, it indicates clostridia growth alongwith yeast and that needs to be addressed with vancomycin/flagyl. I don't want to work on a lot of things at the same time. So I was thinking may be add something for clostridia and then work on parasites and read about adrenals in the meantime. If my plan doesn't seem right, please let me know.Thanks a lotis> >> > well for me crying all the time..sensitive to everything was definitly  adrenals...i used a adrenal tonic made with herbs..it worked really really well! ..some people used adrenal extract called ACE ..> >    how does he do on epsom salt baths? or mag supplement..that is calming too...> > um...I stopped giving my son the shots as I felt the emotional trauma didnt outweight the benefits in my personal mind.> > poor kid..> > > > > > ________________________________> > From: alexis_d3378 <alexis_d3378@>> > To: mb12valtrex > > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:04 AM> > Subject: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal> > > > > >  > > Hi everyone,> > I have recently started my son on curcumin which improved his eye contact, some of his spontaneous speech, which is usually limited to expressing his needs, came back. All the therapists noticed improvement as well. We then also started him on nystatin for yeast overgrowth and had maybe some die off but it was tolerable(probably because there is actually no die off with nystatin). My concern is that he gets anxious on and off and starts crying for no reason. He needs lots of hugs and kisses to feel better. Also, he cannot be in a room alone and I need to be in the bathroom with him otherwise he will hold his BM. He loves taking shower but

gets very anxious if initial water is cold but at the same time does not have the patience for the water to get warm. He starts crying if his little sister tries to talk nonstop to him or asks him to play. Two days back, he cried a lot in shower and when I asked what happened, he said Booboo and when I asked where, he> > pointed to his chest(both right and left). I listened to his heart and his heart rate was more than 140. He was miserable and it took me few minutes to calm him down. Once we were out of shower, he started feeling better and was smiling and relaxed. This seemed liked a panic attack to me as a lot of our patients would present in similar fashion with a feeling of impending doom(classic for MI but sometimes seen in panic attacks also). It has also become very difficult to give him Mb12 shots as he resists and fights. Tried to give him in sleep but wakes up before the needle is in. Now I am not sure what should I do. He is

overall doing better in school and at home with both his school work and behavior but poor guy has been getting these anxiety and fear attacks. He is very sensitive to wind and even air from fans. My feeling is that shots are causing him more pain these days as he is hypersensitive to any touch these days and probably feels more pain> > than usual. I am concerned about his chest pain also as I don't want to ignore it just because he is a child. I will be taking him to his pediatrician for atleast an evaluation. In the meantime if anyone has any suggestions for me, I will really appreciate it. I feel that he is definitely showing improvement in a lot of areas but is this just a phase that will pass?> > Thanks> > is> >>

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i will tell you that when my son was allergic to everything ... including supps, the two things that helped was AC chelation and strict grain free diet plus allergy testing for intolerances plus strict journal as i carefully added one food a time...

i know you guys probly sick of hearing me say it :)channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:57 AMSubject: RE: MMS Re: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal

Channa, Hello , ı am mother from Turkey, recently ı am searching MMS and has seen your below message that your are using MMScan you pls share your experiance with MMS, it is worked really ? is any side effect happen ?How long you are using and how ? with MMS do you use any other supplement or any other info ı may need ? appreciate yours. Thanks,Sema

To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:02:25 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal

is,

.... if it were my kid i would treat adrenals right away as any treatments parasite/bacterial ect just puts more pressure on the adrenals...you could join the recoveryfromautism yahoo group they got lot info on adrenal in their adrenal files....i will look up when i get chance and get back to you on that one..

www.goldenthreadapothecary.com they sell adrenal tonic..love love that stuff when he really needed it i was giving three dropper fulls at a time morning and night

i was also using a seaweed potion at the time which also helped..

for my son he did not have adrenal fatigue..he didnt get to that point..his symptoms were tearful crying at really little things wanting to be held all the time..and anxiety

I am using for treating bacteria miracle mineral solution..i find it great at fighting bacteria and yeast..

the wbsite i got mine is subtleenergynow... if that doesnt work let me know the real name for MMS is sodium chlorite..their is a lot of contreversy about it but i like what it does for my son..

i also use a herbal chinese blend called the snake of the dragon tea pills..

i like what they do also for bacteria...it is a real battle fighting my sons bacteria the worst strains you can have you name it he has it!!

..i havent won the battle yet so you may take my advice with a grain of salt lol

I am also doing a parasite cleanse..while fighting bacteria/mold in his body..

i treat each symptom as they come up...I dont know if that is the correct way but..if i suspect prasites i treat parasites..if i suspect adrenals i will treat that...

how is the nyastatin doing? maybe give more time...but if yeast is systemic nyastatin wont touch it..

have you tried grapeseed extract? or pau d arco?

mercury will hold on to yeast... makes it harder to get rid of from what i been told

I am really against antibiotics...but that is just my personal feeling i would try everything else first..

oh yah so if it were me the plan would go like this.

treat adrenals right away with some gentle herbs poor kid gotta calm down

then i would work on bringing in a good natural bacteria fighter..MMS is not natural but it doesnt destroy gut flora like the scripts do I could be wrong but that is my feelings on it for now....(again just my personal belief)

a lot of naturals kill bacteria and yeast at the same time!...like oil of oregano..

i know your gonna be sick of hearing me tell you to look into andy cutler chelation so i wont mention that to you again...oops.

oh...how does your son do on culturelle? really good stuff for clostidia

you a good mom is..{hugs}

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:13 PMSubject: Re: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal

Hi Channa,Awesome post on the other thread about how to cope! I wanted to ask you that if I am suspecting parasites, should I treat parasites before I deal with the adrenals? What exactly did you use for adrenals? Is it the adrenal fatigue you are pointing at? Do you recommend any reading material? Currently I am dealing with yeast overgrowth and virus. I am also thinking about clostridia as the dan literature suggests that if the child becomes cranky and aggressive while getting antifungals, it indicates clostridia growth alongwith yeast and that needs to be addressed with vancomycin/flagyl. I don't want to work on a lot of things at the same time. So I was thinking may be add something for clostridia and then work on parasites and read about adrenals in the meantime. If my plan doesn't seem right, please let me know.Thanks a lotis> >> > well for me crying all the time..sensitive to everything was definitly  adrenals...i used a adrenal tonic made with herbs..it worked really really well! ..some people used adrenal extract called ACE ..> >    how does he do on epsom salt baths? or mag supplement..that is calming too...> > um...I stopped giving my son the shots as I felt the emotional trauma didnt outweight the benefits in my personal mind.> > poor kid..> > > > > > ________________________________> > From: alexis_d3378 <alexis_d3378@>> > To: mb12valtrex > > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:04 AM> > Subject: Anxiety, fear and increased sensitivity on antifungal> > > > > >  > > Hi everyone,> > I have recently started my son on curcumin which improved his eye contact, some of his spontaneous speech, which is usually limited to expressing his needs, came back. All the therapists noticed improvement as well. We then also started him on nystatin for yeast overgrowth and had maybe some die off but it was tolerable(probably because there is actually no die off with nystatin). My concern is that he gets anxious on and off and starts crying for no reason. He needs lots of hugs and kisses to feel better. Also, he cannot be in a room alone and I need to be in the bathroom with him otherwise he will hold his BM. He loves taking shower but

gets very anxious if initial water is cold but at the same time does not have the patience for the water to get warm. He starts crying if his little sister tries to talk nonstop to him or asks him to play. Two days back, he cried a lot in shower and when I asked what happened, he said Booboo and when I asked where, he> > pointed to his chest(both right and left). I listened to his heart and his heart rate was more than 140. He was miserable and it took me few minutes to calm him down. Once we were out of shower, he started feeling better and was smiling and relaxed. This seemed liked a panic attack to me as a lot of our patients would present in similar fashion with a feeling of impending doom(classic for MI but sometimes seen in panic attacks also). It has also become very difficult to give him Mb12 shots as he resists and fights. Tried to give him in sleep but wakes up before the needle is in. Now I am not sure what should I do. He is

overall doing better in school and at home with both his school work and behavior but poor guy has been getting these anxiety and fear attacks. He is very sensitive to wind and even air from fans. My feeling is that shots are causing him more pain these days as he is hypersensitive to any touch these days and probably feels more pain> > than usual. I am concerned about his chest pain also as I don't want to ignore it just because he is a child. I will be taking him to his pediatrician for atleast an evaluation. In the meantime if anyone has any suggestions for me, I will really appreciate it. I feel that he is definitely showing improvement in a lot of areas but is this just a phase that will pass?> > Thanks> > is> >>