Guest guest Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I was reading this interesting article: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FDN/is_1_10/ai_n13557321/?tag=content;co\ l1 Somewhere in the article, it said this: " Synthesis of carnitine begins with methylation of the amino acid L-lysine by S-adenosylmethionine (SAMe). Magnesium, vitamin C, iron, vitamins B3 and B6, and alpha-ketoglutarate--along with the cofactors responsible for creating SAMe (methionine, folic acid, vitamin B12, and betaine)--are all required for endogenous carnitine synthesis. " I'm thinking then...if a person has a tendency to be viral (I know some of our kids do), and if they've been quite consistently overrun by viruses (because of a compromised immune system), then it would likely impact carnitine synthesis? The article went on to say that carnitine helps the body process your Branched Chain Amino Acids (leucine, isoleucine and valine). So if there is something in your body depleting lysine, then your ability to metabolize your BCAA's shuts down, because the lysine levels will keep falling So if carnitine starts dropping because of low lysine, then it can impact the the metabolism of your BCAA, and because your BCAA's help to produce neurotransmitters. So you start with something that causes a compromised immune system, you eventually get exposed to viruses that deplete lysine (vaccines, contact in the natural environment) and then without anything to keep the viruses in check, the virus population grows, it depletes lysine some more, no lysine available to act with SAMe to create carnitine and then fatty acids metabolism (another function of carnitine) and metabolism of the BCAA's shuts down because carnitine's not available. Similarly, if another variable is missing (like B6), it would likely start showing up as endogenous oxalate production, but then, that's double whammy situation where you now have oxalates which are going into the mitochondrion and physically impairing mito functions, and then you'll have no B6 to complete other metabolic processes like breaking down other amino acids (which require B6). Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a big " this really sucks " situation waiting to happen? I can see now how low B6 alone would stop neurotransmitter production from several points. And I've read from other sources that for lysine to be absorbed properly and made bioavailable, you need adequate stores of B6, niacin (b3), riboflavin (b2), and vitamin C (which many people with oxalates are low in because vitamin C is converting to oxalate). So if you're low in any of those to begin with, then your lysine isn't being properly absorbed -- wouldn't this be the beginning of a vicious cycle? One of your B's are low, then you aren't using lysine properly, and then come into contact with a virus, which then depletes your lysine even more, then carnitine production shuts down more. I think this might have been what happened to my son. I think something had caused him to start stimming and then I started him on GFCF without starting a b-complex, all his food sources of his B's were suddenly gone from the grains, and then carnitine production stopped. I removed dairy from his diet and that was removing another variable, which was cysteine (which should have been there to produce methionine to make SAMe) and when I removed dairy, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. I think that's why he lost so much weight and I really started seeing the more scary symptoms of autism come out. While he was gluten-free, he had stopped the hand flapping, but for some reason, I felt the need to be casein-free, too, and I think maybe that was a VERY bad idea for him. And for Maia...I can see holes from everything that was listed there for carnitine production. It seems quite obvious to me now why she has apraxia. Low B6, low niacin, low vit C (that I can't really supplement to bring up the levels), low AKG (and subsequently high ammonia), exposure to virus as a baby that resulted in roseola rashes (so probably low lysine too that showed up on her amino profile). Man, anything I throw into the mix would be an improvement...almost every variable that is needed to produce carnitine in this kid is just not there! And she's making oxalates endogenously! So many angles for things to have gone wrong! And I haven't even factored in the effect of minerals here....this makes my head hurt just thinking about it. But the good news is that things are getting better as I'm putting in more of the variables for her carnitine production (and to subsequently help her metabolize her BCAA's). I used to not notice the difference when I'd add magnesium or not (I think because everything else was so bad from so many angles). But the last few weeks, I'm seeing quite a significant difference on days when she gets enough magnesium and the days where she doesn't. So maybe it's that the other variables are there now and magnesium is the only low variable and it needs to be there for the processes to be completed to break down some of the essential aminos (especially leucine). Anyway, I'm trying to wrap my brain around all this and it's finally starting to make some sense to me. Just thought I'd post it to sort it out in my head, too. (Writing it down helps me to think about it better). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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