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I am thinking of going up to see Dr. Lindor at Mayo to get a second

opinion on the PSC. I haven't had the MRCP or ERCP. To those who go

there is it usually a day trip if you fly or do you need to stay

overnight for testing? HAs anone seen Dr Lindor and or had there

testing there?

Thanks

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I did just as you are contemplating earlier this year

just to see if my treatment regiment was as it should

be and to possibly see if they could perform an ERCP

to open blockages. Well they did not perform the ERCP

since I was not having alot of problems at the time.

Dr Lindor explained fatigue was the biggest complaint

he has yet offered nothing to combat it. Their

efficiency was second to none. Sadly I came away with

the cold realization, the disease marches on; your

left to deal with the quality of life however; and

they do what little they can when the disease hits

serious stages.

Phil

--- nikki0294 wrote:

> I am thinking of going up to see Dr. Lindor at Mayo

> to get a second

> opinion on the PSC. I haven't had the MRCP or ERCP.

> To those who go

> there is it usually a day trip if you fly or do you

> need to stay

> overnight for testing? HAs anone seen Dr Lindor and

> or had there

> testing there?

>

> Thanks

>

>

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Wow. Good luck with the appointment. I have been thinking of going

to Mayo but I don't know if it would be a waste right now. I'm

still in early stages so I guess I'm okay with the doc I have.

I just wanted to add....Dr Lindor has spoke at PBC conventions

before so I think he would probably speak for PSC as well.

PSC 8/07

PBC 10/06

> H.

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> PS: I wonder if any of these Mayo Dr's would consider being a

speaker.

> Anybody know one well enough ?

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Phil

Thanks for your reply re: Dr. Lindor. Is there someone there who has

more to offer from Mayo? I have been diagnosed from at cat scan

enterography. I have so many questions as to how they can conclude I

have PSC...and yes they mild intrahepatic bilary dilation? could it be

gallstones doing this? How about small bowel overgrowth mimicing PSC

following a year of vancomycin? This is a very serious disease I want

to confirm the diagnosis. Do you think it is necessary to go all the

way there to do that? I have no other symptoms but the occasional

stabbing pain undr my right rib. Statistically I don't fit the male

predominance and the ulcerative colitis eithr. Perhaps I am just in

denial state who knows...I just want answers.

thanks a million!

Chris

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There are two main types of PSC - large duct and small duct. Typically, those with small duct PSC (primarily involves intrahepatic bile ducts) go much longer before transplant. A stabbing URQ (upper right quadrant) pain is very typical of intermittent bile duct blockage (sludgy bile flow) and PSC.

I wouldn't rely on the statistics too much, as they are indeed statistics. For our group here, of those that have stated, there are 360 of 900 that are women, and 26 of those women have Crohn's (vs. 100 UC). The numbers don't add up because we have no formal way of getting that information - just what people volunteer. But, there ARE women with PSC and Crohn's here.

ERCP is still the gold standard of diagnosis. As states, MRCP is less invasive and has quite good results now. The downside is that there is no possible way to do something therapeutic (as in bile duct balloon dilatation and stenting) with MRCP, only ERCP.

As far as I know, there aren't very many things that can mimic PSC. There are a few here with AIH-PSC overlap, and more than a few with inconclusive diagnoses.

I have been totally asymptomatic since balloon dilatation of my common bile duct in 2001 (at Mayo, Rochester), followed by gallbladder removal 3 months later. I don't know if gallbladder disease is related to PSC, but my cholecystectomy surgeon was not surprised. There is a poll on this if you're interested.

Hope that helps

Arne

56 - UC 1977, PSC 2000

Alive and (mostly) well in Minnesota

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....I have no other symptoms but the occasional

stabbing pain undr my right rib. Statistically I don't fit the male

predominance and the ulcerative colitis eithr. Perhaps I am just in

denial state who knows...I just want answers.

thanks a million!

Chris

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Dear ,When you call Mayo they can tell you what test they want to do and how many days you should allow. There are places to stay nearby.If you go for a second opinion , get all the test done in one visit so that you come away with a treatment plan your local Dr. can follow up with.By the way, Dr. Lindor has already been a speaker at out PSC conferences.LeeI am thinking of going up to see Dr. Lindor at Mayo to get a second opinion on the PSC. I haven't had the MRCP or ERCP. To those who go there is it usually a day trip if you fly or do you need to stay overnight for testing? HAs anone seen Dr Lindor and or had there testing there?Thanks__._,_._

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I had my first visit to Mayo about six months ago. I was going

through the transplant listing process with town Hospital in DC

at the time. There were some suspicious growths on the MRCP, and they

wanted to make sure that there wasn't any cholangiocarcinoma before

listing me.

So, off I went to Mayo for two weeks of poking, sticking, prodding,

and consultations with Dr. Gores, who is another

PSC/Cholangiocarcinoma expert there. The people at Mayo will tell you

how long you need to stay in advance of your visit. Usually, you will

be there several days as they are extremely thorough. It's

exhausting, but well worth it. In my case, it was a lengthy process

because they needed to do a workup for cancer in addition to the

normal PSC workup. I imagine that a plain vanilla PSC evaluation

wouldn't take that long.

Fortunately, despite some abnormal tissue growth in the bile ducts,

Dr. Gores concluded that there was no evidence of cancer. He

instructed me to go and sin no more and return in six months. I am

scheduled to go back out to Rochester in early November for follow-up,

but this time I only need to stay for two days...the hard stuff is done.

Overall, the trip was well worth the travel hassles and time spent

away from home, if for nothing else than peace of mind.

Tom

PSC 1999

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> I am thinking of going up to see Dr. Lindor at Mayo to get a second

> opinion on the PSC. I haven't had the MRCP or ERCP. To those who go

> there is it usually a day trip if you fly or do you need to stay

> overnight for testing? HAs anone seen Dr Lindor and or had there

> testing there?

>

> Thanks

>

>

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I have met with Dr. Lindor on a couple of occasions at the Mayo clinic. I had my

first biopsy, bone scan, an upper endoscopy and a whole lot of blood work done

up there. If you make an appointment to see the good doctor, they may advise you

to expect a couple of days for testing. They like to have an additional day or

two for added procedures Lindor may request after seeing results from already

planned tests.

I am going up to see him in early December to have an MRCP and Biopsy done as

part of the High Dose Urso Study 5th year exam. They told me to plan some extra

time in the event he wants additional tests done.

By the way, he is a great doctor. His staff is fantastic and all the ancillary

departments have been terrific.

Good Luck!

Tarheel Tim

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