Can I please get an answer? Cod liver oil vs Omega combinations

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Hi everyone,

I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is just

too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne

which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I

want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some

recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you

figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but

have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is

it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or

other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our

children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the

best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated.

Thanks

is

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isCod liver oil from reading Gaps is very good for vitamin d+e (she recommends femented cod liver oil we get green pastures)Fish oils as u already mentioned ve the dha and the EPA so it is good practice to give bothSent from my iPod

Hi everyone,

I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated.

Thanks

is

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When my son could take cod liver oil liquid, he took the Kirkman lemon-lime

liquid to provide EPA, DHA, and vitamin A and D. He needs a decent maintenance

dose of A. But when he could no longer take liquid and I had to switch him to

capsules, I had to add in another brand of oil in addition to the Kirkman oil.

While the Kirkman capsules have a statement on their website claiming they

supplement EPA and DHA, the actual nutrition label on the website and the bottle

doesn't list EPA or DHA. My doctor said they lose the EPA and DHA when they put

it in the capsules. I'm not sure why.

Anyway, so we give Nordic Naturals 3*6*9 Junior for EPA and DHA and Kirkman cod

liver oil for a natural source of daily vitamin A. I think you hear so much

about cod liver oil because of Dr. Megson's work with vitamin A. The high

dose protocol is done with mycellized vitamin A palmitate, but the maintenance

dose is done with cod liver oil.

Both of these brands have smaller capsules that are easy for my son to swallow.

He takes four Kirkman capsules and two NN capsules each day. He is not required

to take really high doses of EPA and DHA, just a maintenance dose, so I am not

sure what your child would need in the NN. Some children take higher doses to

reduce inflammation.

Hope that helps,

Cathy

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> Hi everyone,

> I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is just

too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne

which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I

want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some

recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you

figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but

have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is

it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or

other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our

children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the

best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated.

> Thanks

> is

>

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Thanks ! My son probably has inflammation, he gets seasonal allergies

but he also has visual stims and lack of focus. He does look from different

angles sometimes and seems to have a lazy eye although as per ophthalmologist it

is not measurable. What would you recommend in his case? I can only use liquid

for him as we don't use animal gelatin. Thank you so much for your detailed

response.

is

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> > Hi everyone,

> > I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is

just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne

which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I

want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some

recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you

figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but

have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is

it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or

other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our

children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the

best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated.

> > Thanks

> > is

> >

>

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Thanks Tendai! I am looking into the fermented cod liver oil. I will see if it

is something that I can order also.

is

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> > Hi everyone,

> > I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is

just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne

which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I

want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some

recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you

figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but

have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is

it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or

other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our

children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the

best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated.

> > Thanks

> > is

> >

> >

>

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Every child should have a trial of Cod Liver Oil. It's pretty basic and one of the few supplements that has ever helped my tough nut. We use Nordic Naturals flavored. Additionally, he get Coromega twice a day. Pamela From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of alexis_d3378Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:55 AMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Can I please get an answer? Cod liver oil vs Omega combinations Hi everyone,I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated. Thanksis

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I just saw an ad for new Omega 3 capsules that are much smaller than others.

http://www.pronutrients.com/omega-3-minigels

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> Hi everyone,

> I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is just

too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne

which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I

want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some

recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you

figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but

have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is

it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or

other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our

children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the

best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated.

> Thanks

> is

>

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is,

With fish oils, I saw speech only when I gave dose of EPA of about 1 gm per day. The speech gains were seen within a week. My son cannot swallow capsules, so I bite the tip of capsules, pour the liquid in a spoon and give him.

Barleans and country life have fish oils with EPA over 1 gm per day with 2 capsules. I had earlier used 5ml of Nutrasea ascenta + 6 caps of EyeQ per day to get a total of 1 gm EPA. You can try increasing the dosage of the thorne fish oil and see if it helps

>> Hi everyone,> I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or other benefits from the omega combinations I

have tried. Is it because our children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated. > Thanks> is>

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Sorry, its 4 caps of EyeQ.

Subject: Re: Re: Can I please get an answer? Cod liver oil vs Omega combinationsTo: mb12valtrex Date: Monday, January 2, 2012, 10:38 PM

is,

With fish oils, I saw speech only when I gave dose of EPA of about 1 gm per day. The speech gains were seen within a week. My son cannot swallow capsules, so I bite the tip of capsules, pour the liquid in a spoon and give him.

Barleans and country life have fish oils with EPA over 1 gm per day with 2 capsules. I had earlier used 5ml of Nutrasea ascenta + 6 caps of EyeQ per day to get a total of 1 gm EPA. You can try increasing the dosage of the thorne fish oil and see if it helps

>> Hi everyone,> I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our children

specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated. > Thanks> is>

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Thanks everyone for helping. You are awesome. Pamela, which coromega do u use

for your kid? How much is the epa/dha in it?

Thanks

is

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> Every child should have a trial of Cod Liver Oil. It's pretty basic and one

> of the few supplements that has ever helped my tough nut. We use Nordic

> Naturals flavored. Additionally, he get Coromega twice a day.

>

> Pamela

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> From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On

> Behalf Of alexis_d3378

> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:55 AM

> To: mb12valtrex

> Subject: Can I please get an answer? Cod liver oil vs Omega

> combinations

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>

> Hi everyone,

> I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is

> just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by

> thorne which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are

> humangous and I want to switch to something else. I started reading about

> the fish oils and some recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3

> combinations. How do you figure out what is right for your kid? We have

> never tried Cod liver oil but have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals

> and then super Epa by thorne. Is it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have

> never noticed any speech gain or other benefits from the omega combinations

> I have tried. Is it because our children specifically need Cod liver oil?

> Also I need to know which brand is the best. Any input from expert moms will

> be appreciated.

> Thanks

> is

>

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Thanks Navina! I am getting inclined towards using both cod liver oil and

supplementing omegas separately to bring dose to a higher number of EPA. The

problem with thorne is the capsule is humangous and my son is swallowing it fine

but gets a lot of hiccups after that. The other caps in the market have pork or

beef gelatin which I don't use. So liquid is the best option as my son doesn't

mind it at all. I may have to use two products though to get both cod liver oil

and higher epa and dha.

Thanks

is

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> > I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is

just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne

which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I

want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some

recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you

figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but

have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is

it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or

other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our

children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the

best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated.

> > Thanks

> > is

> >

>

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Yes, that will be good also. That way you will get some Vit A and D also with the omegas. I was using 5ml of Blue ice FCLO for a while with a cap of country life mood.

Subject: Re: Can I please get an answer? Cod liver oil vs Omega combinationsTo: mb12valtrex Date: Monday, January 2, 2012, 10:59 PM

Thanks Navina! I am getting inclined towards using both cod liver oil and supplementing omegas separately to bring dose to a higher number of EPA. The problem with thorne is the capsule is humangous and my son is swallowing it fine but gets a lot of hiccups after that. The other caps in the market have pork or beef gelatin which I don't use. So liquid is the best option as my son doesn't mind it at all. I may have to use two products though to get both cod liver oil and higher epa and dha. Thanksis> >> > Hi everyone,> > I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA.

The capsules are humangous and I want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated. > > Thanks> > is> >>

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I was using the blue ice FCLO for a while. The issue(in addition to its expense), is that they dont list in the bottle label how much of EPA and DHA , Vit A and D is there in the product, though they have mentioned some rough calculation in their site. I think I read that it differs between bottles and based on the date of packaging, extraction etc which is why its not mentioned in the label..However I used it since it was soy free and fermented is thought to be more absorbed by the body.

Hi everyone,I have posted this question before but didn't get any answer. Maybe it is just too basic and seems unimportant. My son is currently on Super EPA by thorne which contains 425 mg of EPA and 270 mg of DHA. The capsules are humangous and I want to switch to something else. I started reading about the fish oils and some recommend Cod liver oil and some recommend Omega 3 combinations. How do you figure out what is right for your kid? We have never tried Cod liver oil but have tried children's DHA from nordic naturals and then super Epa by thorne. Is it a good idea to try Cod liver oil? I have never noticed any speech gain or other benefits from the omega combinations I have tried. Is it because our children specifically need Cod liver oil? Also I need to know which brand is the best. Any input from expert moms will be appreciated. Thanksis

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Hi is,

Well, it sounds like your son could definitely use the natural A in the cod

liver oil along with the DHA and EPA. We have only used Kirkman brand of cod

liver oil. The liquid does have EPA and DHA in it, but I don't know if the

amount is as high as you want it. Here is the one I used to use before I

switched to capsules:

http://kirkmanlabs.com/ProductKirkman/266/1/CodLiverOilLiquid-LemonLimeFlavor/

If you haven't looked into it, you might also want to try the high dose vitamin

A protocol. Many people find that it gets rid of visual stims. It worked for

us. My son used to side glance all the time. He would watch lines out of the

side of his eyes on tables, etc. He would also do visual stims " opening and

closing " his hands together in front of his eyes and liked to watch doors open

and close, too. These stims went away after doing the high dose vitamin A

protocol and then keeping him on 5,000 iu of vitamin A per day.

We did the high dose vitamin A protocol quite a few times before we stopped

seeing direct gains from it. Our doctor okayed us to do it every six weeks.

After we stopped seeing the gains, we have still kept him on the maintenance

dose of 5,000 iu per day. He has been on it a couple years and has never shown

any signs of vitamin A toxicity. One time, a long time ago, we ran out of CLO

and while we were waiting for it to come in, his visual stims came back. Doing

the high vitamin A protocol and bringing his CLO back in got rid of the stims

again and we haven't seen them since.

Vitamin A can be depleted by the measles virus (probably because it is used by

the body to fight the virus), but our doctor (Dr. Berger) also recommends

it as a general anti-viral treatment. He always recommends the high dose

vitamin A protocol at the beginning of a viral infection.

Here is an article about the protocol:

http://chapmannd.com/uploads///Vitamin%20A%20in%20autism.pdf

She recommends the dose be divided into three times per day, but we always did

it in two (two 100,000 iu doses per day for two days.)

Here is the article about Dr. Megson's work that explains why our kids may

need vitamin A in the natural cis form (like from cod liver oil) and why vitamin

A palmitate may not be effective enough. Of course, when doing the high vitamin

A protocol, we cannot do it with CLO because we cannot give that much CLO to

acheive the amount of vitamin A needed.

http://legacy.autism.com/treatable/supplement/megson.htm

So, I would recommend using the CLO, at least for a trial and adding something

additional for EPA/DHA if you feel he needs more than what he can get in your

CLO dose. We were fine with the Kirkman dose (1 tsp) which provided the 5,000

iu of vitamin A and 500 mg of EPA and 500 mg of DHA. We only added in the

Nordic Naturals when we had to switch to the Kirkman capsules because he

couldn't tolerate the liquid anymore. But again, we only need a healthy general

maintenance dose of EPA and DHA and aren't trying to reduce inflammation with

it.

Cathy

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> Thanks ! My son probably has inflammation, he gets seasonal allergies

but he also has visual stims and lack of focus. He does look from different

angles sometimes and seems to have a lazy eye although as per ophthalmologist it

is not measurable. What would you recommend in his case? I can only use liquid

for him as we don't use animal gelatin. Thank you so much for your detailed

response.

> is

>

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Oh Cathy! You are amazing. Thank you for all the detail. This is what I was

looking for. Tonight is the night of " learning " for me as I am going to check

all the links you sent me. But of course it will happen once both the kids are

in bed. But I am so excited and can't wait. Luv u buddy!

is

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> > Thanks ! My son probably has inflammation, he gets seasonal

allergies but he also has visual stims and lack of focus. He does look from

different angles sometimes and seems to have a lazy eye although as per

ophthalmologist it is not measurable. What would you recommend in his case? I

can only use liquid for him as we don't use animal gelatin. Thank you so much

for your detailed response.

> > is

> >

>

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We use the Original Coromega. www.coromega.com Pamela From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of alexis_d3378Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:19 PMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Can I please get an answer? Cod liver oil vs Omega combinations Thanks everyone for helping. You are awesome. Pamela, which coromega do u use for your kid? How much is the epa/dha in it? Thanksis>> Every child should have a trial of Cod Liver Oil. It's pretty basic and one> of the few supplements that has ever helped my tough nut. We use Nordic> Naturals flavored. Additionally, he get Coromega twice a day.> > Pamela__

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Awww...you are too sweet. Love you, too. No, I am not amazing. I've just been

at this awhile and have a ridiculously large " favorites " list in my browser.

I have been in major learning mode, too. I have been learning from Dr. Amy

Yasko (her book, DVD, website, and forum community.) I think I am growing new

neurons just learning from her. Haha. But it is incredibly helpful

information. I totally get you on the excited part. I get so excited learning

new stuff that is so meaningful and useful!!

Cathy

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> Oh Cathy! You are amazing. Thank you for all the detail. This is what I was

looking for. Tonight is the night of " learning " for me as I am going to check

all the links you sent me. But of course it will happen once both the kids are

in bed. But I am so excited and can't wait. Luv u buddy!

> is

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