Re: Whey base protein supp

[Guest guest]

> Can anyone recommend a good protein powder supplement for a morning

> drink. Thanks for your help -ine

I wouldn't recommend those sorts of supplements. They aren't whole foods.

You're better off using dairy, eggs, nut butters etc. From list discussions

in the past, I think that's the position of most of the rest of the list as

well.

I think that Sally has commented on that as well. Does anybody else

remember when or in what context that might have been?

[Guest guest]

Probably in the context of MSG and oxidized cholesterol. Because

protein powders contain that stuff.

*shudder*

> I think that Sally has commented on that as well. Does anybody else

> remember when or in what context that might have been?

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the info, the dairy is out, can not tolerate it. Years ago

I used to use a powder from eggs and whey protein and I

felt so good on it, but then I could on longer find it. I

was hoping to find such again. Thanks for your help -ine

-----Original Message-----

From: Kroyer [mailto:skroyer@...]

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:52 AM

' '

Subject: RE: Whey base protein supp

> Can anyone recommend a good protein powder supplement for a morning

> drink. Thanks for your help -ine

I wouldn't recommend those sorts of supplements. They aren't whole

foods.

You're better off using dairy, eggs, nut butters etc. From list

discussions

in the past, I think that's the position of most of the rest of the list

as

well.

I think that Sally has commented on that as well. Does anybody else

remember when or in what context that might have been?

[Guest guest]

Hi ine,

I remember hearing Sally Fallon strongly advise against the use of

whey powder. It is processed at temperatures high enough to alter

it's food value; in fact it becomes toxic.

Why don't you enjoy a couple of free range egg yolks in your morning

shake? Since you can't tolerate milk, why not use coconut milk? Some

stores will sell it by the case and you could get a price break. Add

a few strawberries or other fruit plus the egg yolks and enjoy! I

like coconut oil (cream) added too, but I'm still waiting to see what

Radient Life finds, before I buy any more. The oil adds a thickness

to the shake and a lot of healthful nutrients too.

I take the leftover egg whites from the shake making and cook them on

low heat, in a little butter, and eat them with last nights left over

vegetables. It is a hardy meal which keeps me going for hours.

Sally also has recipes for making almond and rice milk in her cook

book, Nourishing Traditions. You might find these helpful and

delicious too.

I know this way of making food takes a little more time, but I think

you will find it is worth the effort. I certainly have.

All my best, Sheila

--- In @y..., " , ine " <pthompson@s...>

wrote:

> Thank you for the info, the dairy is out, can not tolerate it.

Years ago

> I used to use a powder from eggs and whey protein and I

> felt so good on it, but then I could on longer find

it. I

> was hoping to find such again. Thanks for your help -ine

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Kroyer [mailto:skroyer@j...]

> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:52 AM

> ' @y...'

> Subject: RE: Whey base protein supp

>

>

> > Can anyone recommend a good protein powder supplement for a

morning

> > drink. Thanks for your help -ine

>

> I wouldn't recommend those sorts of supplements. They aren't whole

> foods.

> You're better off using dairy, eggs, nut butters etc. From list

> discussions

> in the past, I think that's the position of most of the rest of the

list

> as

> well.

>

> I think that Sally has commented on that as well. Does anybody else

> remember when or in what context that might have been?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sheila, I read her book but did not remember this infor. I

will do as you suggest, I think I was thinking I would need more

protein,

so I will do some reading on this subject, 2

eggs should do it. I'm trying to use the recommendations of Dr. Jack

Tips

in his book ' The Weight is Over', It is the

only diet book to say to have a large salad and lightly steamed salmon

for breakfast.

Thanks again ine

-----Original Message-----

From: h2ocolor1937 [mailto:h2ocolor@...]

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:48 AM

Subject: Re: Whey base protein supp

Hi ine,

I remember hearing Sally Fallon strongly advise against the use of

whey powder. It is processed at temperatures high enough to alter

it's food value; in fact it becomes toxic.

Why don't you enjoy a couple of free range egg yolks in your morning

shake? Since you can't tolerate milk, why not use coconut milk? Some

stores will sell it by the case and you could get a price break. Add

a few strawberries or other fruit plus the egg yolks and enjoy! I

like coconut oil (cream) added too, but I'm still waiting to see what

Radient Life finds, before I buy any more. The oil adds a thickness

to the shake and a lot of healthful nutrients too.

I take the leftover egg whites from the shake making and cook them on

low heat, in a little butter, and eat them with last nights left over

vegetables. It is a hardy meal which keeps me going for hours.

Sally also has recipes for making almond and rice milk in her cook

book, Nourishing Traditions. You might find these helpful and

delicious too.

I know this way of making food takes a little more time, but I think

you will find it is worth the effort. I certainly have.

All my best, Sheila

--- In @y..., " , ine " <pthompson@s...>

wrote:

> Thank you for the info, the dairy is out, can not tolerate it.

Years ago

> I used to use a powder from eggs and whey protein and I

> felt so good on it, but then I could on longer find

it. I

> was hoping to find such again. Thanks for your help -ine

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Kroyer [mailto:skroyer@j...]

> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:52 AM

> ' @y...'

> Subject: RE: Whey base protein supp

>

>

> > Can anyone recommend a good protein powder supplement for a

morning

> > drink. Thanks for your help -ine

>

> I wouldn't recommend those sorts of supplements. They aren't whole

> foods.

> You're better off using dairy, eggs, nut butters etc. From list

> discussions

> in the past, I think that's the position of most of the rest of the

list

> as

> well.

>

> I think that Sally has commented on that as well. Does anybody else

> remember when or in what context that might have been?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Thank you Sheila, I read her book but did not remember this infor. I

> will do as you suggest, I think I was thinking I would need more

> protein, so I will do some reading on this subject, 2

> eggs should do it. I'm trying to use the recommendations of Dr. Jack

> Tips in his book ' The Weight is Over', It is the

> only diet book to say to have a large salad and lightly steamed salmon

> for breakfast.

ine,

If you want more protein than is provided by the yolks, you *can* use the

raw egg whites too. Raw egg whites do contain the chemical avidin which

*does* inhibit biotin absorption (which is why many people don't eat them

raw) but the yolk contains sufficient biotin to offset that problem. Also,

as an alternative to dairy you can use homemade nut milks too. The coconut

milk is great too, but some people might find it too rich to use on it's

own.

Also, you didn't mention the nature of your dairy intolerance. If it's a

casein *allergy*, that's one thing... However, if it's a lactose

intolerance, some people find that *raw* dairy doesn't cause them problems.

Of course, some still have difficulty with it, but even those people can

almost *always* handle milk that's been thoroughly cultured with either

kefir or yogurt cultures to remove most of the lactose. Commercial yogurts

and kefirs may not be fully cultured and may still retain significant

amounts of lactose. However, if you culture it yourself, you can make sure

to let it go long enough to get rid of the lactose.

As I said, I don't know your situation, so I don't know if that's a

possibility. If it's just lactose, though, you might want to try those

things...or perhaps goat milk if it's a cow's milk casein allergy.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

Keto Shakes, to me, are by far the best tasting protein shakes.

Larry

----- Original Message -----

From: , ine

Native-Nutrition (E-mail)

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:43 PM

Subject: Whey base protein supp

Can anyone recommend a good protein powder supplement for a morning

drink. Thanks for your help -ine