Re: Interesting enzyme that stops inflammation.

[Guest guest]

Okay, I finally found the answer.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2003/sep2003_report_aas_01.htm

It is important to note that not all Serrapeptase products are created equal.

The enzyme activity is measured in units and clinical studies are based on the

ratio of 10 mg of Serrapeptase equaling 20,000 units of activity. When

purchasing the product be sure that the ratio of mg to units is 10 mg for every

20,000 units, or 5 mg for 10,000 units and so on. The average dose, therefore,

is 20 mg–or 40,000 units.

---------------

I have ordered some of the 5 mg. from Vitamin Shoppe. It has 10,000 IU

activity. Hope it works better than the 40,000 that I used before.

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:03:01 -0700 (PDT), BABB pajaritomountain@...>

wrote:

>

>Hi Ora,

>

>Thanks for this. Really interesting. I can't think of why there is such a

difference in the I.U. unless it is galloping incompetence, corruption, or

somebody making a buck. Heh!! If you find out let me know please.

>

>Arline

>

>

>>

>> But the website listed below states:

>>

>> =========================

>>

>> There are many products promoting a 20mg. 40,000 unit

>> dosage. This dosage is

>> considerably too high to consume at one time. For

>> absorption reasons it is

>> recommended to take 10 mg. twice daily or 5 mg. 4 times

>> daily before meals. "

>>

>> ==========================

>>

>> I bought some Serrapeptase which stated that it contained

>> 500 mg. equivalent to

>> 40,000 I.U.

>>

>> It was waay too strong. Gave me heavy abdominal gas. I

>> threw it away after

>> taking it three times with the same result each time.

>>

>> But I am wondering why such a wide discrepancy in the I.U.

>> values.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ora,

Thanks so much for this.

Without knowing what I was doing I decided to order from Vitamin Shoppe also.

Funny that.

I found out that this enzyme is a pepidase (if that is correct spelling and

pronunciation) and I was interested in that as somebody with ulcers can't take

it and I wanted it for a family member (who has ulcers). apparently it eats up

protein -- like a damaged stomach lining. Ouch.

Hope it helps you (and me) ;o)

Arline

> http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2003/sep2003_report_aas_01.htm

> It is important to note that not all Serrapeptase products

> are created equal.

> The enzyme activity is measured in units and clinical

> studies are based on the

> ratio of 10 mg of Serrapeptase equaling 20,000 units of

> activity. When

> purchasing the product be sure that the ratio of mg to

> units is 10 mg for every

> 20,000 units, or 5 mg for 10,000 units and so on. The

> average dose, therefore,

> is 20 mg–or 40,000 units.

>

> ---------------

>

> I have ordered some of the 5 mg. from Vitamin Shoppe. It

> has 10,000 IU

> activity. Hope it works better than the 40,000 that I used

> before.

>

>

>

>

> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:03:01 -0700 (PDT), BABB

> pajaritomountain@...>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >Hi Ora,

> >

> >Thanks for this. Really interesting. I can't think

> of why there is such a difference in the I.U. unless it is

> galloping incompetence, corruption, or somebody making a

> buck. Heh!! If you find out let me know please.

> >

> >Arline

> >

> >

> >>

> >> But the website listed below states:

> >>

> >> =========================

> >>

> >> There are many products promoting a 20mg. 40,000

> unit

> >> dosage. This dosage is

> >> considerably too high to consume at one time. For

> >> absorption reasons it is

> >> recommended to take 10 mg. twice daily or 5 mg. 4

> times

> >> daily before meals. "

> >>

> >> ==========================

> >>

> >> I bought some Serrapeptase which stated that it

> contained

> >> 500 mg. equivalent to

> >> 40,000 I.U.

> >>

> >> It was waay too strong. Gave me heavy abdominal

> gas. I

> >> threw it away after

> >> taking it three times with the same result each

> time.

> >>

> >> But I am wondering why such a wide discrepancy in

> the I.U.

> >> values.

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

I think it is enterically coated which means it would not dissolve in the

stomach.

http://pacifichealth.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl/page=eco1.html

go to the item Serrapeptase and click on INFO which will take you to a page

stating that it is enterically coated.

Ora

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:17:52 -0700 (PDT), BABB pajaritomountain@...>

wrote:

>Hi Ora,

>

>Thanks so much for this.

>

>Without knowing what I was doing I decided to order from Vitamin Shoppe also.

Funny that.

>

>I found out that this enzyme is a pepidase (if that is correct spelling and

pronunciation) and I was interested in that as somebody with ulcers can't take

it and I wanted it for a family member (who has ulcers). apparently it eats up

protein -- like a damaged stomach lining. Ouch.

>

>Hope it helps you (and me) ;o)

>

>Arline

[Guest guest]

Here is another site which states it is enterically coated.

http://www.healingedge.net/store/more_eco_ser.html

Ora

>I think it is enterically coated which means it would not dissolve in the

>stomach.

>

>http://pacifichealth.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl/page=eco1.html

>

>go to the item Serrapeptase and click on INFO which will take you to a page

>stating that it is enterically coated.

>

>Ora

>

>On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:17:52 -0700 (PDT), BABB pajaritomountain@...>

>wrote:

>

>>Hi Ora,

>>

>>Thanks so much for this.

>>

>>Without knowing what I was doing I decided to order from Vitamin Shoppe also.

Funny that.

>>

>>I found out that this enzyme is a pepidase (if that is correct spelling and

pronunciation) and I was interested in that as somebody with ulcers can't take

it and I wanted it for a family member (who has ulcers). apparently it eats up

protein -- like a damaged stomach lining. Ouch.

>>

>>Hope it helps you (and me) ;o)

>>

>>Arline

[Guest guest]

Hi Ora, I should have known you would find the answer. Thanks again.

Now I am wondering where the thing would dissolve to be absorbed? IN the

duodenum and I guess you can have ulcers there? I reckon he would just have to

try it to see if it bothered him.

Thanks a lot. Your research skills are a thing of beauty, by the way.

Arline

> >

> >>Hi Ora,

> >>

> >>Thanks so much for this.

> >>

> >>Without knowing what I was doing I decided to order

> from Vitamin Shoppe also. Funny that.

> >>

> >>I found out that this enzyme is a pepidase (if that

> is correct spelling and pronunciation) and I was interested

> in that as somebody with ulcers can't take it and I

> wanted it for a family member (who has ulcers). apparently

> it eats up protein -- like a damaged stomach lining. Ouch.

> >>

> >>Hope it helps you (and me) ;o)

> >>

> >>Arline

>

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[Guest guest]

The duodenum produces alkaline juices but does gets acid from the stomach and if

your friend has an ulcer there it apparently means that the stomach acid

overloads the effect of the alkaline juices.

http://www.answers.com/topic/duodenum

World of the Body: duodenum

The first and shortest segment of the small intestine. For up to 3 or 4 hours

after a meal it receives spurts of partly digested food (chyme) from the

stomach. Juices pour into it at this appropriate time from the pancreas and from

the gall bladder, both close by, stimulated to do so by hormones secreted from

the duodenum itself in response to the chyme's arrival. Because the juices are

alkaline, stomach acid is normally neutralized here, but excessive acidity has

been linked to the duodenum's propensity to develop ulcers.

Thanks for your kind remarks however my research abilities are based on an

overwhelming curiosity and self-imposed obligation to " find it or else " .

Ora

On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:55:30 -0700 (PDT), BABB pajaritomountain@...>

wrote:

>Hi Ora, I should have known you would find the answer. Thanks again.

>

>Now I am wondering where the thing would dissolve to be absorbed? IN the

duodenum and I guess you can have ulcers there? I reckon he would just have to

try it to see if it bothered him.

>

>Thanks a lot. Your research skills are a thing of beauty, by the way.

>

>Arline

[Guest guest]

I am on Nutramedix (very reputable company) Serrepeptase for reducing

the fibrin in my blood so my ABX can kill the Lyme germs better. It

can act as a blood thinner (which is basically why I use it) so it

should be used with caution and not with any other blood thinner meds.

BTW - It doesn't do anything for my V pain unfortunatley.

>

> >

> >Hi Ora,

> >

> >Thanks for this. Really interesting. I can't think of why there is

such a difference in the I.U. unless it is galloping incompetence,

corruption, or somebody making a buck. Heh!! If you find out let me

know please.

> >

> >Arline

> >

> >

> >>

> >> But the website listed below states:

> >>

> >> =========================

> >>

> >> There are many products promoting a 20mg. 40,000 unit

> >> dosage. This dosage is

> >> considerably too high to consume at one time. For

> >> absorption reasons it is

> >> recommended to take 10 mg. twice daily or 5 mg. 4 times

> >> daily before meals. "

> >>

> >> ==========================

> >>

> >> I bought some Serrapeptase which stated that it contained

> >> 500 mg. equivalent to

> >> 40,000 I.U.

> >>

> >> It was waay too strong. Gave me heavy abdominal gas. I

> >> threw it away after

> >> taking it three times with the same result each time.

> >>

> >> But I am wondering why such a wide discrepancy in the I.U.

> >> values.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ora,

" Because the juices are alkaline, stomach acid is normally neutralized here, but

excessive acidity has been linked to the duodenum's propensity to develop

ulcers. "

That is soooooo interesting and exactly what I wanted to know.

" Thanks for your kind remarks however my research abilities

> are based on an overwhelming curiosity and self-imposed obligation to

> " find it or else " . "

That is so neat!! What a great character defect!!! (Wish I had it).

As usual, thanx!

Arline

>

>

> >Hi Ora, I should have known you would find the answer.

> Thanks again.

> >

> >Now I am wondering where the thing would dissolve to be

> absorbed? IN the duodenum and I guess you can have ulcers

> there? I reckon he would just have to try it to see if it

> bothered him.

> >

> >Thanks a lot. Your research skills are a thing of

> beauty, by the way.

> >

> >Arline

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Molly,

It is interesting and a good thing for you to tell us that this enzyme hasn't

helped your VV. I hope it has helped to murder the Lyme germs.

I only have pain from yeast when it gets bad (vestibule mostly but moves up). I

was interested in the enzyme because my inflammation markers are very high

according to blood tests and because I have some sort of blockage in the lower

part of my heart and supposedly it can help to dissolve this. Also other family

members have similar problems with inflammation and heart blockages. NOthing

ventured, nothing gained I reckon. Who knows?

Luck to us all.

Arline

>

> Subject: Re: Interesting enzyme that stops inflammation.

> To: VulvarDisorders

> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:58 PM

> I am on Nutramedix (very reputable company) Serrepeptase for

> reducing

> the fibrin in my blood so my ABX can kill the Lyme germs

> better. It

> can act as a blood thinner (which is basically why I use

> it) so it

> should be used with caution and not with any other blood

> thinner meds.

>

> BTW - It doesn't do anything for my V pain

> unfortunatley.

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >Hi Ora,

> > >

> > >Thanks for this. Really interesting. I can't

> think of why there is

> such a difference in the I.U. unless it is galloping

> incompetence,

> corruption, or somebody making a buck. Heh!! If you find

> out let me

> know please.

> > >

> > >Arline

> > >

> > >

> > >>

> > >> But the website listed below states:

> > >>

> > >> =========================

> > >>

> > >> There are many products promoting a 20mg.

> 40,000 unit

> > >> dosage. This dosage is

> > >> considerably too high to consume at one time.

> For

> > >> absorption reasons it is

> > >> recommended to take 10 mg. twice daily or 5

> mg. 4 times

> > >> daily before meals. "

> > >>

> > >> ==========================

> > >>

> > >> I bought some Serrapeptase which stated that

> it contained

> > >> 500 mg. equivalent to

> > >> 40,000 I.U.

> > >>

> > >> It was waay too strong. Gave me heavy

> abdominal gas. I

> > >> threw it away after

> > >> taking it three times with the same result

> each time.

> > >>

> > >> But I am wondering why such a wide

> discrepancy in the I.U.

> > >> values.

> >

>

>

>

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