Re: Summer Camp

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,You are correct. When there are budget cuts, there are less therapists with the same caseloads. This leads to an unintentional decrease in quality and quantity of services. It becomes a situation where teachers and therapists try to fit everyone in for services as specified in each child's IEP. Then add in student/school schedules and meetings. It becomes very difficult to be as effective as possible. MarvaSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:53:32 +0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp

SteveYou misinterpreted what I said. What I stated was that because of budgets cuts, there are less therapists with larger case loads. I did not mention that are kids get less of an education and/or services. I work with the district to ensure our kids at every grade level get what they need and deservemSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "Steve" <ssmoyer (AT) gate (DOT) net>Sender: sList Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:19:58 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Summer Camp Hello ,IDEA says our kids are entitled to a free and appropriate education, there is no mention of except when there are budget cuts. The Florida State Constitution says all students are entitlrd to a secure and high quality education, there is no mention of except when there are budget cuts.Please do not ever let anyone from the district ever tell you they can't provide something your child is entitled to because of funding. It's not true and it's against the law. If your child is entitled to it, they have to provide it.Steve Moyer " Wihlborg " wrote:I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as our kids. Its hard across the board

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,

Let me try and stated it another way. You are confusing budget

constraints with the law. The law doesn't care where the money comes from. It

doesn't care if the school is having budget problems. It doesn't care if you

use the budget the reason for not hiring teachers. It does state the school has

to provide FAPE with the emphasis on appropriate.

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I'm not confused on what's required by law. I also know its my choice on what

to do with my son.

Budget means less available therapists ex: one therapist that have more schools

this year than last because the district had to reduce the number of employees

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, you are confused at what is

mandated by law and what you choose to do. Forget about budget concerns. They

are not part of the law.

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This is the first year where me and my ex decided not to put our son in esy.

We put him in camp at the jcc in davie. Our son is learning different things.

They go on field trips every week and he's having fun while learning.

I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as our

kids. Its hard across the board

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ESY is not full-time either, it's from 8 to 12, 4 days a week. If your child

goes for 6 weeks and the break is what, 11 weeks long? What about the rest of

the time? Aren't there any chances of a child regressing in that time? that

plus the teachers are not always the same (most schools in Weston don't offer

ESY for elementary kids), different environment...by the time the kids get

acquainted, it's over.

I get it that there are budget cuts and all but truth is that it's a faulty

program.

> >

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> > The YMCA in Hollywood offers a great gymnastics program. They will be

sensitive to your needs.

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> > Sent from my iPad

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[Guest guest]

Marva,

This should not be my child's problem and therefore, I don't

accept it. It the school's problem to fix.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:53 PM

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,

You are correct. When there are budget cuts, there are less therapists with the

same caseloads. This leads to an unintentional decrease in quality and quantity

of services. It becomes a situation where teachers and therapists try to fit

everyone in for services as specified in each child's IEP. Then add in

student/school schedules and meetings. It becomes very difficult to be as

effective as possible.

Marva

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Steve

You misinterpreted what I said. What I stated was that because of budgets cuts,

there are less therapists with larger case loads. I did not mention that are

kids get less of an education and/or services.

I work with the district to ensure our kids at every grade level get what they

need and deservem

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Subject: Re: Summer Camp

Hello ,

IDEA says our kids are entitled to a free and appropriate education, there is

no mention of except when there are budget cuts. The Florida State Constitution

says all students are entitlrd to a secure and high quality education, there is

no mention of except when there are budget cuts.

Please do not ever let anyone from the district ever tell you they can't

provide something your child is entitled to because of funding. It's not true

and it's against the law. If your child is entitled to it, they have to provide

it.

Steve Moyer

" Wihlborg " wrote:

I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as our

kids. Its hard across the board

[Guest guest]

Thank you Marva!!! I definatly miss you!Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: marva_knight@...Sender: sList Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:52:56 +0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp ,You are correct. When there are budget cuts, there are less therapists with the same caseloads. This leads to an unintentional decrease in quality and quantity of services. It becomes a situation where teachers and therapists try to fit everyone in for services as specified in each child's IEP. Then add in student/school schedules and meetings. It becomes very difficult to be as effective as possible. MarvaSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Wihlborg" <ewihlborg (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sender: sList Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:53:32 +0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp SteveYou misinterpreted what I said. What I stated was that because of budgets cuts, there are less therapists with larger case loads. I did not mention that are kids get less of an education and/or services. I work with the district to ensure our kids at every grade level get what they need and deservemSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "Steve" <ssmoyer (AT) gate (DOT) net>Sender: sList Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:19:58 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Summer Camp Hello ,IDEA says our kids are entitled to a free and appropriate education, there is no mention of except when there are budget cuts. The Florida State Constitution says all students are entitlrd to a secure and high quality education, there is no mention of except when there are budget cuts.Please do not ever let anyone from the district ever tell you they can't provide something your child is entitled to because of funding. It's not true and it's against the law. If your child is entitled to it, they have to provide it.Steve Moyer " Wihlborg " wrote:I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as our kids. Its hard across the board

[Guest guest]

,You're right, its not your childs problem but we as parents and voters need to understand where the problems begin. Its a collective problem that starts with the state and trickles down to the school then unfortunately to the children. Its not the schools intention to "short-change" the children. When cuts are made, people are surplused. Its easy to blame the schools but accept it or not that's the way it is. We as parents should not have to concern ourselves with these matters but, unless we go to the top, nothing gets done. To debates is one thing but action is another. Many laws, such as the autism insurance coverage in many states, started with one person saying the same thing you said, "I don't accept it". I say you go to Tallahassee and let them know what your child is entitled to and happens when children do not get what they need. This is where changes are made.MarvaSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:50:06 -0400To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: RE: Re: Summer Camp Marva, This should not be my child's problem and therefore, I don'taccept it. It the school's problem to fix. From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf marva_knight (AT) yahoo (DOT) comSent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:53 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp ,You are correct. When there are budget cuts, there are less therapists with thesame caseloads. This leads to an unintentional decrease in quality and quantityof services. It becomes a situation where teachers and therapists try to fiteveryone in for services as specified in each child's IEP. Then add instudent/school schedules and meetings. It becomes very difficult to be aseffective as possible. MarvaSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Wihlborg " <ewihlborg (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sender: sList Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:53:32 +0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp SteveYou misinterpreted what I said. What I stated was that because of budgets cuts,there are less therapists with larger case loads. I did not mention that arekids get less of an education and/or services. I work with the district to ensure our kids at every grade level get what theyneed and deservemSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Steve " <ssmoyer (AT) gate (DOT) net> Sender: sList Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:19:58 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Summer Camp Hello ,IDEA says our kids are entitled to a free and appropriate education, there isno mention of except when there are budget cuts. The Florida State Constitutionsays all students are entitlrd to a secure and high quality education, there isno mention of except when there are budget cuts.Please do not ever let anyone from the district ever tell you they can'tprovide something your child is entitled to because of funding. It's not trueand it's against the law. If your child is entitled to it, they have to provideit.Steve Moyer " Wihlborg " wrote:I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as ourkids. Its hard across the board

[Guest guest]

With all due respect Marva, the autism insurance bill is a very bad example of

something positive.

Here's a 2 part video of the bill in the (clips from session) 2008 session:

What the autism insurance biil is an example of is how to gut and pass a Bill so

it's off the legislators desk.

Same thing that happened to the restraint and seclusion Bill.

14% or less of the autistic children in Florida are eligible for some insurance

coverage because of the 2008 autism insurance bill. I didn't consider that a win

then and I still don't.

Steve Moyer

Steve Moyer

>

> I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as

> our kids. Its hard across the board

>

[Guest guest]

Steve,You missed my point. First, I wasn't referring to Florida in particular. There are insurance bills in approximately 13 states. Other states have other things. My point was that we as parents will get better results if we focus our energies and frustrations in the right places. Parents and the general population are powerful voices. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:06:28 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Summer Camp With all due respect Marva, the autism insurance bill is a very bad example of something positive.Here's a 2 part video of the bill in the (clips from session) 2008 session:

the autism insurance biil is an example of is how to gut and pass a Bill so it's off the legislators desk.Same thing that happened to the restraint and seclusion Bill.14% or less of the autistic children in Florida are eligible for some insurance coverage because of the 2008 autism insurance bill. I didn't consider that a win then and I still don't.Steve MoyerSteve Moyer> > I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as> our kids. Its hard across the board>

[Guest guest]

I am happy for those who can attend a private camp or private aftercare during the school year, but not every parent can afford this and not every child will be accepted.

I talked about the budget cuts here last April, and I was outraged to see so many educators laid off. Nobody here even responded.

When principals are asked to but $250,000 (for each school), many teachers will have to leave. Is this the school's problem? What do you think the principals should do?

When the cluster classrooms are overcrowded because teachers, assistants are surplused, whose problem is that?

Like Steve says, the IDEA is full of promises. However , it is not that simple. Do you think that ESE specialists, educators or coaches reciting the law will bring back surplused teachers? Do school districts always have the money needed to meet all legal requirements?

Since the IDEA is a federal law, the federal goverment needs to provide the schooldistricts with the funding needed to meet the kids' needs the way the law states.

Liz

Subject: Re: Summer CampTo: sList Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 4:06 PM

With all due respect Marva, the autism insurance bill is a very bad example of something positive.Here's a 2 part video of the bill in the (clips from session) 2008 session:

the autism insurance biil is an example of is how to gut and pass a Bill so it's off the legislators desk.Same thing that happened to the restraint and seclusion Bill.14% or less of the autistic children in Florida are eligible for some insurance coverage because of the 2008 autism insurance bill. I didn't consider that a win then and I still don't.Steve MoyerSteve Moyer> > I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as> our kids. Its hard across the

board>

[Guest guest]

I really don't think you have to go to the top. You start with

due process and after the ALJ agrees with the school district, you go to the

federal court. The school district might blame the state for the shortfall in

funds but they are not without blame. Take for example the process of

requesting an IEE. If granted that could cost the district about $500. But if

they deny it which is the custom and the school district takes the individual

to due process, it can cost the district $5000.00 or better. This is your tax

money at work!

You don't have to go to Tallahassee to make changes. The laws already

exist in the federal domain. And if the recently passed Florida Seclusion and

Restraint Bill is an example of going to Tallahassee to make changes, I'm

staying home. And besides once the federal law is passed it will trump most of

the dangerous provisions of the state law.

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:33 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp

,

You're right, its not your childs problem but we as parents and voters need to

understand where the problems begin.

Its a collective problem that starts with the state and trickles down to the

school then unfortunately to the children. Its not the schools intention to

" short-change " the children. When cuts are made, people are

surplused. Its easy to blame the schools but accept it or not that's the way it

is.

We as parents should not have to concern ourselves with these matters but,

unless we go to the top, nothing gets done. To debates is one thing but action

is another. Many laws, such as the autism insurance coverage in many states,

started with one person saying the same thing you said, " I don't accept

it " .

I say you go to Tallahassee and let them know what your child is entitled to

and happens when children do not get what they need. This is where changes are

made.

Marva

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Marva,

This should not be my child's problem

and therefore, I don't accept it. It the school's problem to fix.

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:53 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp

,

You are correct. When there are budget cuts, there are less therapists with the

same caseloads. This leads to an unintentional decrease in quality and quantity

of services. It becomes a situation where teachers and therapists try to fit

everyone in for services as specified in each child's IEP. Then add in

student/school schedules and meetings. It becomes very difficult to be as

effective as possible.

Marva

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From:

" Wihlborg "

Sender:

sList

Date:

Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:53:32 +0000

To:

<sList >

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sList

Subject:

Re: Re: Summer Camp

Steve

You misinterpreted what I said. What I stated was that because of budgets cuts,

there are less therapists with larger case loads. I did not mention that are

kids get less of an education and/or services.

I work with the district to ensure our kids at every grade level get what they

need and deservem

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From:

" Steve "

Sender:

sList

Date:

Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:19:58 -0000

To:

<sList >

ReplyTo:

sList

Subject:

Re: Summer Camp

Hello ,

IDEA says our kids are entitled to a free and appropriate education, there is

no mention of except when there are budget cuts. The Florida State Constitution

says all students are entitlrd to a secure and high quality education, there is

no mention of except when there are budget cuts.

Please do not ever let anyone from the district ever tell you they can't

provide something your child is entitled to because of funding. It's not true

and it's against the law. If your child is entitled to it, they have to provide

it.

Steve Moyer

" Wihlborg " wrote:

I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as our

kids. Its hard across the board

[Guest guest]

, So, have you started a due process case for the summer program? Let me know it turns out. I still think that parents can have a powerful voice to make changes. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:49:48 -0400To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: RE: Re: Summer Camp I really don't think you have to go to the top. You start withdue process and after the ALJ agrees with the school district, you go to thefederal court. The school district might blame the state for the shortfall infunds but they are not without blame. Take for example the process ofrequesting an IEE. If granted that could cost the district about $500. But ifthey deny it which is the custom and the school district takes the individualto due process, it can cost the district $5000.00 or better. This is your taxmoney at work! You don't have to go to Tallahassee to make changes. The laws alreadyexist in the federal domain. And if the recently passed Florida Seclusion andRestraint Bill is an example of going to Tallahassee to make changes, I'mstaying home. And besides once the federal law is passed it will trump most ofthe dangerous provisions of the state law. From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf marva_knight (AT) yahoo (DOT) comSent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:33 AMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp ,You're right, its not your childs problem but we as parents and voters need tounderstand where the problems begin. Its a collective problem that starts with the state and trickles down to theschool then unfortunately to the children. Its not the schools intention to " short-change " the children. When cuts are made, people aresurplused. Its easy to blame the schools but accept it or not that's the way itis. We as parents should not have to concern ourselves with these matters but,unless we go to the top, nothing gets done. To debates is one thing but actionis another. Many laws, such as the autism insurance coverage in many states,started with one person saying the same thing you said, " I don't acceptit " . I say you go to Tallahassee and let them know what your child is entitled toand happens when children do not get what they need. This is where changes aremade.MarvaSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Heifferon " <gary00001 (AT) msn (DOT) com>Sender: sList Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:50:06 -0400To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: RE: Re: Summer Camp Marva, This should not be my child's problemand therefore, I don't accept it. It the school's problem to fix. From:sList [mailto:sList ] On BehalfOf marva_knight (AT) yahoo (DOT) comSent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:53 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp ,You are correct. When there are budget cuts, there are less therapists with thesame caseloads. This leads to an unintentional decrease in quality and quantityof services. It becomes a situation where teachers and therapists try to fiteveryone in for services as specified in each child's IEP. Then add instudent/school schedules and meetings. It becomes very difficult to be aseffective as possible. MarvaSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Wihlborg " <ewihlborg (AT) aol (DOT) com> Sender:sList Date:Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:53:32 +0000To:<sList >ReplyTo:sList Subject:Re: Re: Summer Camp SteveYou misinterpreted what I said. What I stated was that because of budgets cuts,there are less therapists with larger case loads. I did not mention that arekids get less of an education and/or services. I work with the district to ensure our kids at every grade level get what theyneed and deservemSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: " Steve " <ssmoyer (AT) gate (DOT) net> Sender:sList Date:Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:19:58 -0000To:<sList >ReplyTo:sList Subject: Re: Summer Camp Hello ,IDEA says our kids are entitled to a free and appropriate education, there isno mention of except when there are budget cuts. The Florida State Constitutionsays all students are entitlrd to a secure and high quality education, there isno mention of except when there are budget cuts.Please do not ever let anyone from the district ever tell you they can'tprovide something your child is entitled to because of funding. It's not trueand it's against the law. If your child is entitled to it, they have to provideit.Steve Moyer " Wihlborg " wrote:I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as ourkids. Its hard across the board

[Guest guest]

Marva,

I agree - parents do have a powerful voice to make changes, especially so when they are united towards a common goal.

To: sList Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 9:37:49 PMSubject: Re: Re: Summer Camp

,So, have you started a due process case for the summer program? Let me know it turns out. I still think that parents can have a powerful voice to make changes.

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From: " Heifferon" <gary00001 (AT) msn (DOT) com>

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To: <sList@ yahoogroups. com>

ReplyTo: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: RE: Re: Summer Camp

I really don't think you have to go to the top. You start with due process and after the ALJ agrees with the school district, you go to the federal court. The school district might blame the state for the shortfall in funds but they are not without blame. Take for example the process of requesting an IEE. If granted that could cost the district about $500. But if they deny it which is the custom and the school district takes the individual to due process, it can cost the district $5000.00 or better. This is your tax money at work!

You don't have to go to Tallahassee to make changes. The laws already exist in the federal domain. And if the recently passed Florida Seclusion and Restraint Bill is an example of going to Tallahassee to make changes, I'm staying home. And besides once the federal law is passed it will trump most of the dangerous provisions of the state law.

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of marva_knight@ yahoo.comSent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:33 AMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Summer Camp

,You're right, its not your childs problem but we as parents and voters need to understand where the problems begin. Its a collective problem that starts with the state and trickles down to the school then unfortunately to the children. Its not the schools intention to "short-change" the children. When cuts are made, people are surplused. Its easy to blame the schools but accept it or not that's the way it is. We as parents should not have to concern ourselves with these matters but, unless we go to the top, nothing gets done. To debates is one thing but action is another. Many laws, such as the autism insurance coverage in many states, started with one person saying the same thing you said, "I don't accept it". I say you go to Tallahassee and let them know what your child is entitled to and happens when children do not get what they need. This is where changes are made.Marva

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Marva,

This should not be my child's problem and therefore, I don't accept it. It the school's problem to fix.

From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of marva_knight@ yahoo.comSent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:53 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: Re: Summer Camp

,You are correct. When there are budget cuts, there are less therapists with the same caseloads. This leads to an unintentional decrease in quality and quantity of services. It becomes a situation where teachers and therapists try to fit everyone in for services as specified in each child's IEP. Then add in student/school schedules and meetings. It becomes very difficult to be as effective as possible. Marva

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SteveYou misinterpreted what I said. What I stated was that because of budgets cuts, there are less therapists with larger case loads. I did not mention that are kids get less of an education and/or services. I work with the district to ensure our kids at every grade level get what they need and deservem

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To: <sList@ yahoogroups. com>

ReplyTo: sList@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Summer Camp

Hello ,IDEA says our kids are entitled to a free and appropriate education, there is no mention of except when there are budget cuts. The Florida State Constitution says all students are entitlrd to a secure and high quality education, there is no mention of except when there are budget cuts.Please do not ever let anyone from the district ever tell you they can't provide something your child is entitled to because of funding. It's not true and it's against the law. If your child is entitled to it, they have to provide it.Steve Moyer" Wihlborg" <ewihlborg@.. .> wrote:I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as our kids. Its hard across the board

[Guest guest]

Marva, I can't. I am in federal court.

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:38 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp

,

So, have you started a due process case for the summer program? Let me know it

turns out.

I still think that parents can have a powerful voice to make changes.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Sender: sList

Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:49:48 -0400

To: <sList >

ReplyTo: sList

Subject: RE: Re: Summer Camp

I really don't think you have to go to

the top. You start with due process and after the ALJ agrees with the school

district, you go to the federal court. The school district might blame the

state for the shortfall in funds but they are not without blame. Take for

example the process of requesting an IEE. If granted that could cost the

district about $500. But if they deny it which is the custom and the school

district takes the individual to due process, it can cost the district $5000.00

or better. This is your tax money at work!

You don't have to go to Tallahassee to

make changes. The laws already exist in the federal domain. And if the recently

passed Florida Seclusion and Restraint Bill is an example of going to Tallahassee

to make changes, I'm staying home. And besides once the federal law is passed

it will trump most of the dangerous provisions of the state law.

From:

sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf

Of marva_knight@...

Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:33 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Summer Camp

,

You're right, its not your childs problem but we as parents and voters need to

understand where the problems begin.

Its a collective problem that starts with the state and trickles down to the

school then unfortunately to the children. Its not the schools intention to

" short-change " the children. When cuts are made, people are

surplused. Its easy to blame the schools but accept it or not that's the way it

is.

We as parents should not have to concern ourselves with these matters but,

unless we go to the top, nothing gets done. To debates is one thing but action

is another. Many laws, such as the autism insurance coverage in many states,

started with one person saying the same thing you said, " I don't accept

it " .

I say you go to Tallahassee and let them know what your child is entitled to

and happens when children do not get what they need. This is where changes are

made.

Marva

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Marva,

This should not be my child's problem

and therefore, I don't accept it. It the school's problem to fix.

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You are correct. When there are budget cuts, there are less therapists with the

same caseloads. This leads to an unintentional decrease in quality and quantity

of services. It becomes a situation where teachers and therapists try to fit

everyone in for services as specified in each child's IEP. Then add in

student/school schedules and meetings. It becomes very difficult to be as

effective as possible.

Marva

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Steve

You misinterpreted what I said. What I stated was that because of budgets cuts,

there are less therapists with larger case loads. I did not mention that are

kids get less of an education and/or services.

I work with the district to ensure our kids at every grade level get what they

need and deservem

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Hello ,

IDEA says our kids are entitled to a free and appropriate education, there is no

mention of except when there are budget cuts. The Florida State Constitution

says all students are entitlrd to a secure and high quality education, there is

no mention of except when there are budget cuts.

Please do not ever let anyone from the district ever tell you they can't

provide something your child is entitled to because of funding. It's not true

and it's against the law. If your child is entitled to it, they have to provide

it.

Steve Moyer

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I know that the budget cuts are affecting us all---regular kids as well as our

kids. Its hard across the board

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I really don't think you have to go to the top. You start with due process

and after the ALJ agrees with the school district, you go to the federal

court. The school district might blame the state for the shortfall in funds

but th

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We are offering an After Summer Social Skills Camp for teens. I am a behavior and social skills coach in the community and this camp is structured to for teens who may need help in areas of social skills & life skills. All staff is trained in positive reinforcement and behavior techniques to motivate positive behavior. Attached is a flier and if you would like any more information you can call Anisha Staton @

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How old is the child?

From: Daphne Bromfield <dmarie10 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:00:51 PMSubject: Summer Camp

Do you know of any summer camps for children with ADHD who need positive reinforcement to behavior issues in Broward County?

Daphne BromfieldLOVECHILD Development and Transition Partners, Corp.dmarie10 (AT) gmail (DOT) com

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Hello there,

We are actually in the middle of the first week but we have another week starting Aug. 16th. The cost of one week (9am-3pm Monday-Friday) is $450.00, that includes all activities that take place in the community. How old is your teen? What kinds of things would you want him/her to work on at the camp? Look forward to hearing from you, and please feel free to contact me directly as well! Thank you for your interest.

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can you tell me about the dates and cost. Omayra Matamoros, MHSA, JDSend from Mac

From: Anisha Staton <learningtoreach@ yahoo.com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Sun, August 1, 2010 10:38:29 AMSubject: Re: Summer Camp [1 Attachment]

We are offering an After Summer Social Skills Camp for teens. I am a behavior and social skills coach in the community and this camp is structured to for teens who may need help in areas of social skills & life skills. All staff is trained in positive reinforcement and behavior techniques to motivate positive behavior. Attached is a flier and if you would like any more information you can call Anisha Staton @

I hope this helps!

Learning To Reach, Inc.

Behavior/Social Skills Training

learningtoreach@ live.com

From: Daphne <dmarie10 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, July 22, 2010 10:09:42 PMSubject: Re: Summer Camp

14 years old

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How old is the child?

From: Daphne Bromfield <dmarie10 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: sList@ yahoogroups. comSent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:00:51 PMSubject: Summer Camp

Do you know of any summer camps for children with ADHD who need positive reinforcement to behavior issues in Broward County?

Daphne BromfieldLOVECHILD Development and Transition Partners, Corp.dmarie10 (AT) gmail (DOT) com

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Shallie Olivieri <lidflowe (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:

The YMCA in Hollywood offers a great gymnastics program. They will be sensitive to your needs.Sent from my iPad

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After Summer Camp Flyer 2010.doc

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