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Posted October 1, 2001 · October 1, 2001

Cheryl,

I am very sorry for your losses but I am glad you

found this group, it helped me so much after my

ep. It was our first time ttc and I ended up

having surgery Dec. 00 and lost my rt tube. I

too had to have the lapratomy but also had some

complications after surgery with my bladder. I

was out of work for about 1 month. As for the

test to check your other tube, I think most drs do say

wait 2-3 months. My dr would of done it at 2

months but with the bladder problems I was having she

wanted to wait. They do the test 7-10 days

after the first day af starts, so actually as soon as

I had the test done the third month and was given the

ok (they can tell you during the test) My dh and I

tried right away. I had decided I was ready and wanted

to start right away. I believe it took me like 5

wks to get af. Since you do alot of lifting

maybe that is why your dr told you to wait for

6wks. I know it would be hard to explain to the

kids and all why you can't lift things at the

moment. Another thing, though it is not

" medically proven " but I kept hearing from many that

after the hsg (test) that one of the possible

" benefits " is some are likely to get pg again pretty

quickly and I have definitely seen women here get pg

within 6 months or so of having one done (just alittle

+ thought)....sometimes we need all the + thoughts we

can get after going through this nightmare. I am

very glad you found us and I hope you find the support

I found here! This is a wonderful group of

women!!! Feel free to type and ask

whatever you want.

Cheryl Cimino

wrote:

Hi!!! My name

is Cheryl and I'm 28 years old. I have been

married for 6 wonderful years and have a daughter who

will be 3 next month.. I had my first

ectopic preg. last sept. 2000. My dr.

treated it with methotrexate successfully. I got

pregnant again in dec. and miscarried in Feb. I got

pregnant again this past July and started spotting in

August. The dr.'s told me I was miscarrying again.

They followed my beta each week and it was coming down

nicely so they weren't concerned. two weeks ago

I was in alot of pain and started bleeding, I thought

It was the end of the miscarriage , i called my dr.

and they told me to go right in the er. they did an

ultra sound and confirmed it was an ectopic and I was

bleeding and needed surgery. They had to

perform the lapratomy because their was too much

blood to do the scope. They ended up removing my

right tube. The dr.'s told me it was blocked and their

was a lot of scar tissue. They said it was

probably due to the infection I got after the

C-section with my daughter.. I only stayed in

the hospital one night after the surgery. I felt they

sent me home to quick, my blood levels were down and

potasium and magnesium were down as well but after one

day they felt I was well enough to come home..

I am coping ok with all this but find I have a

lot of questions. I was very grateful to find

this group and also Krista's web page.. A lot of my

questions have been answered already.. But I do have a

few more..My dr. told me they will do

the dye test to check my left tube in three

months. They want me to heal first. This brings

me to my first question Is that the right time

to perform the dye test after surgery or can i do it

earlier????My dr. said I can ttc again in 3 months

so I figure get the dye test done in 2 months so when

my 3 months is up I can start trying right away

again. Also how long did everyone wait

after having surgery to ttc again??? Some people

(friends) are telling me not to wait the 3

months..How long did it take before you got your

first realperiod after surgery? this thursday

will be 3 weeks since surgery for me.. My dr. also

told me I couldn't pick up my daughter for 6 weeks and

shouldn't work for 6 weeks. I have a family

daycare in my home, so lots of lifting...I did

have a few other questions but am so tired I can't

remember what they were.. I hope everyone has a

good night and hope I didn't confuse you to much with

my typing.. Sometimes Its all so confusing to

me...But I am soo grateful for finding this list..

Cheryl [Non-text portions of this

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Posted October 1, 2001 · October 1, 2001

Hi Cheryl,

I am so sorry for you loss, but I know that you will find this group to be of

great comfort and help. I had an ep in July of 99 and lost my rt. tube. For

the first year and a half after having my ep it was a ' " bad " time but finding

this group here was the best thing for me and it will be for you too. Please

take care.

Love,

Sheila

Posted October 1, 2001 · October 1, 2001

cheryl,

I am soo sorry for your loss. we are all here for you. I am sure someone

answered your questions...

but here is what I know, I was told to wait 3 months before the dye test and

before ttc again. I believe it has to do with the healing process physically

and emotionally.

I believe the lifting is to do with your stitches and healing also...

share whenever you need to.

lisa r

Posted October 1, 2001 · October 1, 2001

Hi Cheryl. I'm glad you found this board, but sorry you had to. I don't

have any answers for you, but I'm sure you've gotten many already. You will

find this group is full of wonderful women all willing to support you and

answer your questions.

~Kim

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Posted October 2, 2001 · October 2, 2001

susan,

I'm sorry but what does " nbsp " mean???

what kind of bladder problems did you have, if you don't mind me asking..?

I had a bladder infection after my surgery which was pretty painful. It

cleared up in a couple of days with meds.. But still doesn't feel completely

back to normal yet. Its been almost 3 weeks from surgery..

THis group is wonderful I feel very welcome and find I am getting a lot of

my questions answers..

I remembered another one of my questions.. My stomach is still swollen near

the incision ,, it is so ugly and kinda just hangs over. did that happen to

you and how long does it take to go back to normal. Its gone down a little

but not all the way..

thanks

cheryl

Re: New member

> Cheryl,

> I am very sorry for your losses but I am glad you

> found this group, it helped me so much after my

> ep. It was our first time ttc and I ended up

> having surgery Dec. 00 and lost my rt tube. I

> too had to have the lapratomy but also had some

> complications after surgery with my bladder. I

> was out of work for about 1 month. As for the

> test to check your other tube, I think most drs do say

> wait 2-3 months. My dr would of done it at 2

> months but with the bladder problems I was having she

> wanted to wait. They do the test 7-10 days

> after the first day af starts, so actually as soon as

> I had the test done the third month and was given the

> ok (they can tell you during the test) My dh and I

> tried right away. I had decided I was ready and wanted

> to start right away. I believe it took me like 5

> wks to get af. Since you do alot of lifting

> maybe that is why your dr told you to wait for

> 6wks. I know it would be hard to explain to the

> kids and all why you can't lift things at the

> moment. Another thing, though it is not

> " medically proven " but I kept hearing from many that

> after the hsg (test) that one of the possible

> " benefits " is some are likely to get pg again pretty

> quickly and I have definitely seen women here get pg

> within 6 months or so of having one done (just alittle

> + thought)....sometimes we need all the + thoughts we

> can get after going through this nightmare. I am

> very glad you found us and I hope you find the support

> I found here! This is a wonderful group of

> women!!! Feel free to type and ask

> whatever you want.

>

> Cheryl Cimino

> wrote:

> Hi!!! My name

> is Cheryl and I'm 28 years old. I have been

> married for 6 wonderful years and have a daughter who

> will be 3 next month.. I had my first

> ectopic preg. last sept. 2000. My dr.

> treated it with methotrexate successfully. I got

> pregnant again in dec. and miscarried in Feb. I got

> pregnant again this past July and started spotting in

> August. The dr.'s told me I was miscarrying again.

> They followed my beta each week and it was coming down

> nicely so they weren't concerned. two weeks ago

> I was in alot of pain and started bleeding, I thought

> It was the end of the miscarriage , i called my dr.

> and they told me to go right in the er. they did an

> ultra sound and confirmed it was an ectopic and I was

> bleeding and needed surgery. They had to

> perform the lapratomy because their was too much

> blood to do the scope. They ended up removing my

> right tube. The dr.'s told me it was blocked and their

> was a lot of scar tissue. They said it was

> probably due to the infection I got after the

> C-section with my daughter.. I only stayed in

> the hospital one night after the surgery. I felt they

> sent me home to quick, my blood levels were down and

> potasium and magnesium were down as well but after one

> day they felt I was well enough to come home..

> I am coping ok with all this but find I have a

> lot of questions. I was very grateful to find

> this group and also Krista's web page.. A lot of my

> questions have been answered already.. But I do have a

> few more..My dr. told me they will do

> the dye test to check my left tube in three

> months. They want me to heal first. This brings

> me to my first question Is that the right time

> to perform the dye test after surgery or can i do it

> earlier????My dr. said I can ttc again in 3 months

> so I figure get the dye test done in 2 months so when

> my 3 months is up I can start trying right away

> again. Also how long did everyone wait

> after having surgery to ttc again??? Some people

> (friends) are telling me not to wait the 3

> months..How long did it take before you got your

> first realperiod after surgery? this thursday

> will be 3 weeks since surgery for me.. My dr. also

> told me I couldn't pick up my daughter for 6 weeks and

> shouldn't work for 6 weeks. I have a family

> daycare in my home, so lots of lifting...I did

> have a few other questions but am so tired I can't

> remember what they were.. I hope everyone has a

> good night and hope I didn't confuse you to much with

> my typing.. Sometimes Its all so confusing to

> me...But I am soo grateful for finding this list..

> Cheryl [Non-text portions of this

> message have been removed]

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Posted October 2, 2001 · October 2, 2001

Cheryl,

I just wanted to let you know that after my surgery my stomach is swollen

near the incision as well. My surgery was 3 weeks ago. Hopefully our

stomachs will get back to normal eventually. Hope you feel better soon.

Re: New member

>

> > Cheryl,

> > I am very sorry for your losses but I am glad you

> > found this group, it helped me so much after my

> > ep. It was our first time ttc and I ended up

> > having surgery Dec. 00 and lost my rt tube. I

> > too had to have the lapratomy but also had some

> > complications after surgery with my bladder. I

> > was out of work for about 1 month. As for the

> > test to check your other tube, I think most drs do say

> > wait 2-3 months. My dr would of done it at 2

> > months but with the bladder problems I was having she

> > wanted to wait. They do the test 7-10 days

> > after the first day af starts, so actually as soon as

> > I had the test done the third month and was given the

> > ok (they can tell you during the test) My dh and I

> > tried right away. I had decided I was ready and wanted

> > to start right away. I believe it took me like 5

> > wks to get af. Since you do alot of lifting

> > maybe that is why your dr told you to wait for

> > 6wks. I know it would be hard to explain to the

> > kids and all why you can't lift things at the

> > moment. Another thing, though it is not

> > " medically proven " but I kept hearing from many that

> > after the hsg (test) that one of the possible

> > " benefits " is some are likely to get pg again pretty

> > quickly and I have definitely seen women here get pg

> > within 6 months or so of having one done (just alittle

> > + thought)....sometimes we need all the + thoughts we

> > can get after going through this nightmare. I am

> > very glad you found us and I hope you find the support

> > I found here! This is a wonderful group of

> > women!!! Feel free to type and ask

> > whatever you want.

> >

> > Cheryl Cimino

> > wrote:

> > Hi!!! My name

> > is Cheryl and I'm 28 years old. I have been

> > married for 6 wonderful years and have a daughter who

> > will be 3 next month.. I had my first

> > ectopic preg. last sept. 2000. My dr.

> > treated it with methotrexate successfully. I got

> > pregnant again in dec. and miscarried in Feb. I got

> > pregnant again this past July and started spotting in

> > August. The dr.'s told me I was miscarrying again.

> > They followed my beta each week and it was coming down

> > nicely so they weren't concerned. two weeks ago

> > I was in alot of pain and started bleeding, I thought

> > It was the end of the miscarriage , i called my dr.

> > and they told me to go right in the er. they did an

> > ultra sound and confirmed it was an ectopic and I was

> > bleeding and needed surgery. They had to

> > perform the lapratomy because their was too much

> > blood to do the scope. They ended up removing my

> > right tube. The dr.'s told me it was blocked and their

> > was a lot of scar tissue. They said it was

> > probably due to the infection I got after the

> > C-section with my daughter.. I only stayed in

> > the hospital one night after the surgery. I felt they

> > sent me home to quick, my blood levels were down and

> > potasium and magnesium were down as well but after one

> > day they felt I was well enough to come home..

> > I am coping ok with all this but find I have a

> > lot of questions. I was very grateful to find

> > this group and also Krista's web page.. A lot of my

> > questions have been answered already.. But I do have a

> > few more..My dr. told me they will do

> > the dye test to check my left tube in three

> > months. They want me to heal first. This brings

> > me to my first question Is that the right time

> > to perform the dye test after surgery or can i do it

> > earlier????My dr. said I can ttc again in 3 months

> > so I figure get the dye test done in 2 months so when

> > my 3 months is up I can start trying right away

> > again. Also how long did everyone wait

> > after having surgery to ttc again??? Some people

> > (friends) are telling me not to wait the 3

> > months..How long did it take before you got your

> > first realperiod after surgery? this thursday

> > will be 3 weeks since surgery for me.. My dr. also

> > told me I couldn't pick up my daughter for 6 weeks and

> > shouldn't work for 6 weeks. I have a family

> > daycare in my home, so lots of lifting...I did

> > have a few other questions but am so tired I can't

> > remember what they were.. I hope everyone has a

> > good night and hope I didn't confuse you to much with

> > my typing.. Sometimes Its all so confusing to

> > me...But I am soo grateful for finding this list..

> > Cheryl [Non-text portions of this

> > message have been removed]

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Posted October 2, 2001 · October 2, 2001

Hi Sheila,

thank you for the welcome.. I am coping Ok with this. I like to get right

back into my schedule to keep myself busy. I do take the time to cry when

i need to. But i find what works for me is to go on with my regular routine

for the day but just taking it much slower these days..

cheryl

Re: New member

> Hi Cheryl,

>

> I am so sorry for you loss, but I know that you will find this group to be

of

> great comfort and help. I had an ep in July of 99 and lost my rt. tube.

For

> the first year and a half after having my ep it was a ' " bad " time but

finding

> this group here was the best thing for me and it will be for you too.

Please

> take care.

>

> Love,

> Sheila

>

Posted October 22, 2001 · October 22, 2001

Hi Kim,

Thanks for writing back. That is interesting that your doctor said to wait 4

months and my doctor said 6 months. Actually, it was the surgeon that told me

that and he said that by six months it would be 98% healed, whereas, earlier it

would be like 80 % healed. My husband and I wonder if he said six months just

to be extra cautious...? It is soooo hard to wait!! Don't you think? At the

same time, I'm nervous to try too...It is all very confusing at times.

Was this your first pregnancy? I'm interested to hear how many are first-time

pregnancies that end up being ectopics.

Have you heard of many (or any) persons that have had healthy babies after an

ectopic with a tube that was not lost? I have had different people tell me that

they've had friends/acquaintances that have had healthy children after an

ectopic and that is always wonderful to hear! It is just so hard to believe

right now, so I keep searching for more success stories...

Are you going to get one of those tests done to be sure your tubes are free of

blockage before you start trying? I hadn't even known that was an option until

reading about others doing it on this web site.

Well, thank you so much for writing. It is comforting to know that somewhere

out there, someone else was going through this same ordeal around the same time

as me...(although I wish you hadn't had this experience...) it is just such a

lonely feeling to have an ectopic because no body seems to know anything about

it.

Take care!

Steph

>>> kimbertram11@... 10/18/01 05:02PM >>>

Steph:

It seems I had my surgery right before you...mine was Aug. 10th. I also did

not loose my tube, though the added worry that the surgery may have caused

some scarring does not make me completely happy with that!

We had the same things told to us at first that you did...it was a probably

miscarriage, it was earlier than we thought it was....and the whole time, I

just KNEW something was terribly wrong and there wasn't a thing anyone could

say to make me think any differently. Turns out I was right.

I'm sorry for all you've gone through. It is so hard to try to convince

yourself that everything will be just fine when you do get pg again, and I

think that's part of the reason doctors make you wait! I was told to wait 4

months before ttc, a couple for physical healing and a couple more for

emotional healing. So, December is our lucky time, but I'm thinking we'll

wait until after the holidays just in case something is not right...I

wouldn't want to ruin anyone's holiday by having surgery again or being

depressed.

Glad you found this group....the folks here are a wonderful source of

comfort and support.

~Kim

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Posted October 22, 2001 · October 22, 2001

Hi ,

It is sure interesting how the doctors don't know much about ectopics and

symptoms, when we all have the same types of stories...it is pretty sad really.

Thanks for writing. I'm looking forward to this new support system!!!!!

Steph

>>> tigger89@... 10/20/01 09:14AM >>>

steph,

I am soooo sorry for your loss. I am glad that you found us, you will find

unbelievable support, understanding and love here....

Everything you are feeling is NORMAL... it just takes times... you need to

grieve your loss...

I had absolutely NO pain with my ep.. some minor cramping and they kept

telling me it was a m/c and then taht eeverything was ok because my numbers

get climbing. This went on for weeks. I never had any pain at all....

About 5 months after my ep(lost my right tube), I got pg again. I ended up

having a m/c and yes, I was relieved that it was not another ep....I promise

you that it does get better and it just takes as long as it takes..

we are here for you,

lisa r

Posted October 23, 2001 · October 23, 2001

I'm just wondering if anyone else ever has a pinching-type pain (very slight)

after surgery to remove an ectopic pregnancy? I had a salpingostomy 9 weeks ago

and every once in a while I feel a slight pinching pain where my left tube is.

It is very unnoticeable and doesn't even really hurt...but I'm just curious. My

HCG's went down to a normal level a few weeks after surgery...I'm just wondering

if this is normal?? Is it the tube healing?

>>> amrichey@... 10/18/01 01:12PM >>>

New member introduction....

Re: Welcome to ectopicpregnancy

Hello everyone!

I am new to this support list, but very happy to have found this resource!

I had a laparascopy on August 23, 2001, to remove an ectopic pregnancy. I

would like to share my experience with all of you. It has been very

difficult for me and even more difficult to find others who have been

through this and understand what I am going through.

I am 27 years old and have been married for over three years. My husband

and I decided to go off the pill in December 2000 and actively started

" trying " to get pregnant in April 2001. We got pregnant fairly quickly and

were giddy with joy over our luck. I cried with happiness when we did the

second home pregnancy test on August 2, and immediately started eated

healthier and doing all of the things you do when you're pregnant. I had

morning sickness, sore breasts, all of the signs of a normal pregnancy. I

thought it was all too good to be true.

However, I did notice I was having bad cramping from time to time and had

light brown spotting. Others told me this was pretty normal, so I wasn't

too worried, but I have to admit, I was still worried. On August 14, while

I was sitting at my desk at work, I suddenly had this strange, constant

pinching pain on my lower left side. In the back of my mind I remembered

reading that pain on one side is a sign of ectopic pregnancy. I called my

doctor and she said we would play it safe and do an ultrasound on that

Friday, August 17th. At this point I was about 8 weeks along.

On Thursday, August 16, I began having severed cramping in the late

afternoon. It didn't quit until 6 a.m. the following morning. I did not

sleep all night due to the pain and had also start bleeding and it was not

brown any longer. I was worried. We had an early appointment on that

Friday for the scheduled ultrasound, so I didn't see any reason to go in

before that despite my pain. My husband, Mike, did not know what to do. I

balled throughout the entire registration process before the ultrasound and

could not talk. I knew something was terribly wrong.

During the ultrasound I cried more. I could tell they were not finding the

baby. Later, a nurse came in to tell us the news that it looked like we had

miscarried. Unfortunately, no doctors were available to me at the time

since it was 6:45 in the morning. I had clotting before the ultrasound and

again at home, but I was confused that i had such little bleeding and

clotting for it to be a miscarriage.

The next few days we dealt with the fact that we had had a miscarriage and I

continued to go in for HCG tests. Of course, my HCG levels kept rising and

there was concern about whether I had an ectopic pregnancy. It was my worst

fear. I felt that it would be much easier to just have had the miscarriage.

They were puzzled, however, because I wasn't in any pain. I continued to

have some morning sickness and breast soreness...so they wondered if i was

still pregnant, but the baby hadn't shown up on the ultrasound because it

was earlier along than we imagined. They told me not to get my hopes up for

this, but of course, my hopes went up.

They did a second ultrasound on Tuesday and still could not find anything.

On Thursday, August 23, I had another ultrasound scheduled for the afternoon

and they were going to have the results of a progesterone test - which was

to give us an indication of whether I had a healthy baby or not. Before the

ultrasound, I was at work when I suddenly had a sharp pain go through my

entire abdomen. It hurt to sit, there was so much pressure on my bottom. I

knew then that it was an ectopic. My husband and I rushed to the doctor.

This time they found bleeding in my ultrasound and the progesterone test

indicated that I didn't have a healthy baby.

I had a laparscopic surgery that evening. They found an ectopic pregnancy

in my left fallopian tube. They were able to remove the pregnancy without

taking my tube. They are optimistic that Mike and I should have no problem

getting pregnant again, but i am still worried. The surgeon said that I did

not have any scarring, blockage or anything to explain why it had happened.

I did not have any of the risk factors. I figure it was just my luck.

We have to wait for six months after the surgery to attempt to get pregnant

again. This time period allows for my left tube to heal up, but even after

six months, there could be scarring which could cause another ectopic. That

is my concern. It has been almost two months and i still feel like I can

burst into tears at any second. I am filled with so much anxiety about

another pregnancy. I know I want to try, but I do not want to have another

disappointment. I'm sure you all understand this. I have a countdown for

February, when we can start trying again.

In the mean time, I cry as I hear about all of my friends and aquaintences

who are getting pregnant quickly and easily...they are everywhere! I can't

help but feel bitter and angry. I keep asking, why us?? It seems so

unfair. I feel like we have done everything right, in order to prepare for

children. Mike and i are educated, have good careers, a happy marriage, and

just built a new house with three bedrooms in the country. We are SO READY

and this has hurt us so badly. We have been strong together though and i

have to say, my husband is the optimistic one. He is sure everything will be

fine. Ican't be so sure.

I am so glad to have found this web site and list. I have been needing to

talk to others who understand ectopics (most people don't really know

anything about ectopics) and know how I am feeling. I would like to hear

from others who have had similar experiences/feelings and to hear any

stories of successful pregnancies after ectopics. Thank you very much for

letting me share my story.

Hope to hear from you soon- Steph

Posted October 23, 2001 · October 23, 2001

Hi, I have frequent pinching like pain (?) on both sides and have since my

surgery, it usually happens around the time I ovulate, I " think " it is the eg

bursting out? but am not sure. I also have fantom pains on the side with no

tube off and on throughout my cycle that feel similar to the ep pain....did that

help any? im not sure myself!!!

laura T