Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 - This is one that has puzzled me for a while..by calling it primary sclerosing cholangitis you are saying you can't identify the cause of the sclerosing cholangitis but everyone says PSC is an autoimmune disease so isn't that what the cause is ? By saying secondary sclerosing cholangitis you are implying you know the trigger/cause but that doesn't mean you can treat the underlying cause or stop progression- so how are the two labels different ?? Lori lucky mom to triplets including Braden w/short bowel syndrome, P or S ?? sclerosing cholangitis, immune deficiency, FAP > > O.K., so if we can come up with the cause of PSC, does this paper > mean that it would no longer be called PSC, but SSC? > > J Gastrointest Surg. 2007 Oct 24 [Epub ahead of print] > > Sclerosing Cholangitis Epidemiology and Etiology. > > Lazaridis KN > > Center for Basic Research in Digestive Diseases, Division of > Gastroenterology and Hepatology, Mayo Clinic College of Medicine, 200 > First Street SW, Rochester, MN, 55905, USA, > lazaridis.konstantinos@... > > Sclerosing cholangitis represents a spectrum of chronic biliary > diseases that either has an unknown etiology (i.e., primary) or is > caused by identifiable insults to the biliary tree (i.e., secondary). > To date, the epidemiology of primary sclerosing cholangitis has been > appraised; however, its etiology continues to be unclear. In > contrast, the etiology of secondary sclerosing cholangitis is always > known, but the epidemiology of this clinical entity is difficult to > study. PMID: 17957439. > > Dave > (father of (23); PSC 07/03; UC 08/03) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Hi Lori; These are very good questions. The distinction between secondary and primary sclerosing cholangitis would seem to make a difference if the SC could be associated with a specific infectious agent, which could then be eliminated with a suitable antibiotic. This has been reported in sclerosing cholangitis associated with immune deficiency and colonization of the biliary tract with Cryptosporidium: Am J Gastroenterol. 1987 Nov;82(11):1196-202. Sclerosing cholangitis associated with chronic cryptosporidiosis in a child with a congenital immunodeficiency disorder. JJ, Heyman MB, Ferrell L, Kerner J, Kerlan R Jr, Thaler MM. Department of Pediatrics, University of California, San Francisco. Primary sclerosing cholangitis (PSC) in children is a rare and incurable disorder of unknown etiology. We report an immunodeficient child with chronic cryptosporidiosis of the biliary tract leading to clinical, pathological, and radiographic findings consistent with PSC. This case documents the ability of Cryptosporidium to disseminate to extraintestinal organs, and suggests that chronic cryptosporidial infection of the biliary tract may be one etiological mechanism producing sclerosing cholangitis in immunodeficient children. The increased incidence of PSC in immunodeficient children may in part be due to their inability to resolve infections of the biliary tract, which may result in sclerosing cholangitis mimicking PSC. We submit that an aggressive diagnostic workup should be performed to rule out an infectious etiology of sclerosing cholangitis in immunodeficient patients who have findings of PSC, because specific chemotherapy against the infecting organism would potentially arrest progressive biliary obliteration. PMID: 3674002. Has Braden been tested for anything like this (since you report that he has immune deficiency)? Best regards, Dave (father of (23); PSC 07/03; UC 08/03) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 - Thanks for all that you do for so many here !!! The most current thinking about Braden's immune deficiency (hypogammoglobinemia- sp ??) is that it was caused by the severe malabsorption due to his short gut and is not a genetic immune deficiency. Several doctors disagree though and the only thing they agree on is that he needs monthly IVIG treatments for the immune deficiency- his total IgG is low as are all his subclasses except for his IgG 3 - it's in the low normal range. I have heard that one of the theories behind the cause of PSC is bacterial translocation with inflammatory bowel. Braden has that to the extreme !! with short bowel syndrome, no ileocecal valve and long term problems with small bowel bacterial overgrowth and extremely compromised GI tract, increased EOS and inflammation.... Lori > > Hi Lori; > > These are very good questions. The distinction between secondary and > primary sclerosing cholangitis would seem to make a difference if the > SC could be associated with a specific infectious agent, which could > then be eliminated with a suitable antibiotic. This has been reported > in sclerosing cholangitis associated with immune deficiency and > colonization of the biliary tract with Cryptosporidium: > > Am J Gastroenterol. 1987 Nov;82(11):1196-202. > > Sclerosing cholangitis associated with chronic cryptosporidiosis in a > child with a congenital immunodeficiency disorder. > > JJ, Heyman MB, Ferrell L, Kerner J, Kerlan R Jr, Thaler MM. > > Department of Pediatrics, University of California, San Francisco. > > Primary sclerosing cholangitis (PSC) in children is a rare and > incurable disorder of unknown etiology. We report an immunodeficient > child with chronic cryptosporidiosis of the biliary tract leading to > clinical, pathological, and radiographic findings consistent with > PSC. This case documents the ability of Cryptosporidium to > disseminate to extraintestinal organs, and suggests that chronic > cryptosporidial infection of the biliary tract may be one etiological > mechanism producing sclerosing cholangitis in immunodeficient > children. The increased incidence of PSC in immunodeficient children > may in part be due to their inability to resolve infections of the > biliary tract, which may result in sclerosing cholangitis mimicking > PSC. We submit that an aggressive diagnostic workup should be > performed to rule out an infectious etiology of sclerosing > cholangitis in immunodeficient patients who have findings of PSC, > because specific chemotherapy against the infecting organism would > potentially arrest progressive biliary obliteration. PMID: 3674002. > > Has Braden been tested for anything like this (since you report that > he has immune deficiency)? > > Best regards, > > Dave > (father of (23); PSC 07/03; UC 08/03) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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