Re: B12 Shot Thanku for break-down b-12

[Guest guest]

- Thanks alot for your added nursing info on this. I just knew that way

back about 20yrs ago, I was going thru much like I am now, not diagnoised then

as FM, but had been tested for everything from Lupus to a desert disease as I

lived in Ca. I knew that my g.friend swore by getting these shots for feeling

better, less fatigue etc., so becuase I was finally told that what was wrong

with me was just my Graves Disease, though had my thyroid removed so don't know

how I still had it, I wanted to try this b-12 shot to as I had sm.kids, and

needed to feel good, have some just some energy to care for them, and stop my

body from aching, but I was refused, and was told they don't just give them out

to whoever wants one. ???? I only wish if they help with energy and I could

feel like I was clear minded, or grounded if u know what I mean I feel so

somewhere between outerspace and on the ground so much of the time. Well

again thank you for taking your time with breaking

down b-12. As I know just because something is just a vitaman they can become

deadly to someone who is or becomes toxic to it just like anything else.

Sharon

wrote:

The doctor may be one of those who questions the use of cyanocobalamin

- the

most common form of B-12 administered by MD's. Studies have been conducted

that say it is metabolized into harmful cyanides. Cyanocobalamin must be

converted by the body into B-12 before it can be absorbed. Proponents of the

harmful cyanides theory usually endorse taking a more natural form of B-12,

methylcobalamin which is not supposed to metabolize into the harmful stuff.

When I was in nursing I had many patients who received routine doses of

cyanocobalamin. I've even given it to several of my family members on a

gradually decreasing basis: Every day for 3 days, every other day for 6

days, once a week for 3 months. I've had patients who had taken it

routinely for years with no side effects.

We were taught that anything other than the injectable or sublingual

(under-the tongue) forms were useless, because B-12 would break down and

become useless in the presence of gastric enzymes and acids, and that there

was no cumulative effect, or problem with a toxic build-up of B-12.

So, I've been puzzled lately as to whether that information was wrong, or

whether a new, more stable form had been created, or whether vitamin

manufacturers were putting B-12 in supplements just to make a sale, knowing

it would never get absorbed.

I think it's the latter.

in Louisiana

> For most people B12 is not toxic. I believe the body just flushes out

> what it doesn't need. Some of you nurse people correct me if I'm wrong.

> Jeanne in WI

>

> I know b-12 is a vita shot, and my friend in Ca got it monthly for yrs.

> But when I started experiencing what I now know are fibro symtoms, I had

> inquired through my physician if I could be purt on it to see if it would

> help with fatigue etc. he turned me down. Since then I have asked again, and

> am in Mass. and the Drl refused also saying it can be harmvull unless they

> were to find in my labs something pointing to I needed it, they will not

> give it. I have heard it worked wonders on some who have used, but also know

> even thought it is a vitaman they can cause serious conditions also. ???? It

> may have to do with some of my other meds I am on, my thyroid condition,

> history of blood clots, I just know I can't get it. Thanks for the info

> though. Sharon

>

>

[Guest guest]

I use the subligual b-12 and it DOES help me.So its being absorbed enough to

take the fatigue away.

sharon studley wrote:

- Thanks alot for your added nursing info on this. I just knew that way

back about 20yrs ago, I was going thru much like I am now, not diagnoised then

as FM, but had been tested for everything from Lupus to a desert disease as I

lived in Ca. I knew that my g.friend swore by getting these shots for feeling

better, less fatigue etc., so becuase I was finally told that what was wrong

with me was just my Graves Disease, though had my thyroid removed so don't know

how I still had it, I wanted to try this b-12 shot to as I had sm.kids, and

needed to feel good, have some just some energy to care for them, and stop my

body from aching, but I was refused, and was told they don't just give them out

to whoever wants one. ???? I only wish if they help with energy and I could

feel like I was clear minded, or grounded if u know what I mean I feel so

somewhere between outerspace and on the ground so

much of the time. Well again thank you for taking your time with breaking

down b-12. As I know just because something is just a vitaman they can become

deadly to someone who is or becomes toxic to it just like anything else.

Sharon

wrote:

The doctor may be one of those who questions the use of

cyanocobalamin - the

most common form of B-12 administered by MD's. Studies have been conducted

that say it is metabolized into harmful cyanides. Cyanocobalamin must be

converted by the body into B-12 before it can be absorbed. Proponents of the

harmful cyanides theory usually endorse taking a more natural form of B-12,

methylcobalamin which is not supposed to metabolize into the harmful stuff.

When I was in nursing I had many patients who received routine doses of

cyanocobalamin. I've even given it to several of my family members on a

gradually decreasing basis: Every day for 3 days, every other day for 6

days, once a week for 3 months. I've had patients who had taken it

routinely for years with no side effects.

We were taught that anything other than the injectable or sublingual

(under-the tongue) forms were useless, because B-12 would break down and

become useless in the presence of gastric enzymes and acids, and that there

was no cumulative effect, or problem with a toxic build-up of B-12.

So, I've been puzzled lately as to whether that information was wrong, or

whether a new, more stable form had been created, or whether vitamin

manufacturers were putting B-12 in supplements just to make a sale, knowing

it would never get absorbed.

I think it's the latter.

in Louisiana

> For most people B12 is not toxic. I believe the body just flushes out

> what it doesn't need. Some of you nurse people correct me if I'm wrong.

> Jeanne in WI

>

> I know b-12 is a vita shot, and my friend in Ca got it monthly for yrs.

> But when I started experiencing what I now know are fibro symtoms, I had

> inquired through my physician if I could be purt on it to see if it would

> help with fatigue etc. he turned me down. Since then I have asked again, and

> am in Mass. and the Drl refused also saying it can be harmvull unless they

> were to find in my labs something pointing to I needed it, they will not

> give it. I have heard it worked wonders on some who have used, but also know

> even thought it is a vitaman they can cause serious conditions also. ???? It

> may have to do with some of my other meds I am on, my thyroid condition,

> history of blood clots, I just know I can't get it. Thanks for the info

> though. Sharon

>

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