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Hello everyone,

I was wondering how everyone is able to get high doses of URSO. 's

insurance

refuses to fill the total precription that each of the liver doctors have

written. They

will only allow 300mg 3 times a day and the doctors want to have him for his

size double

that. Do we just have bad insurance or has it been a struggle for most of you?

Just

curious?? I doctor said he tried talking with the insurance company and still

no go. It

is amazing that a person behind a desk can veto 3 doctors opinions????? We are

hoping

once is out of nursing school which his finals are Friday, and he gets a

new job,

we can change insurance. Thanks for any input.

Glad to hear the good news for Arne! I hope once is out of school and

stress,

perhaps his syptoms will slow down. Do you find stress makes PSC worse or

cholangiitis

attacks come on???? We have him on a small antianxiety pill and have made it 7

weeks

without an episode so we are grateful for that. We couldn't make it pass 4 or 5

weeks.

Yeah!!

Hope everyone has a good day

Pamela (Wife of )

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I am not normally a fan of , but his movie, "Sicko" addresses this very issue. We have corrupt insurance companies telling doctors how to treat their patients...and the people telling them how to treat their patient financially profit off of telling them to offer less treatment. It is ridiculous. PUSH FOR AND DEMAND UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE. It would not be a perfect system, no, but it'd certainly be better than all of this crap...having to run to an insurance company CEO like he's my daddy to ask if I can take some medicine that my doctor says I need. And Hillary and Obama's health plan is still entirely run by insurance companies, so those plans are not the answer. We need a health plan where

doctors can do whatever they feel is medically necessary. urso and insurance

Hello everyone,

I was wondering how everyone is able to get high doses of URSO. 's insurance

refuses to fill the total precription that each of the liver doctors have written. They

will only allow 300mg 3 times a day and the doctors want to have him for his size double

that. Do we just have bad insurance or has it been a struggle for most of you? Just

curious?? I doctor said he tried talking with the insurance company and still no go. It

is amazing that a person behind a desk can veto 3 doctors opinions???? ? We are hoping

once is out of nursing school which his finals are Friday, and he gets a new job,

we can change insurance. Thanks for any input.

Glad to hear the good news for Arne! I hope once is out of school and stress,

perhaps his syptoms will slow down. Do you find stress makes PSC worse or cholangiitis

attacks come on???? We have him on a small antianxiety pill and have made it 7 weeks

without an episode so we are grateful for that. We couldn't make it pass 4 or 5 weeks.

Yeah!!

Hope everyone has a good day

Pamela (Wife of )

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I have had no problems getting high-dose URSO paid for by insurance. It may

take a significant effort to get them to change; reams of high-dose URSO

studies, copies of proceedings, etc. I did have the benefits people at my

company interface with the insurance company at one time (different problem)

- they were able to get it paid.

I've never been able to tie stress to PSC symptoms, but who knows? HTH.

Arne

56 - UC 1977, PSC 2000

Alive and (mostly) well in Minnesota

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Hello everyone,

I was wondering how everyone is able to get high doses of URSO. 's

insurance

refuses to fill the total precription that each of the liver doctors have

written. They

will only allow 300mg 3 times a day and the doctors want to have him for his

size double

that...

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just wanted to add my 2 cents here. when they first put cara on urso

the ins co. tried to tell us that she was being overdosed.she was on 3-

300mg caps twice a day. thank god for the pharmacist he went bat for

us and got the meds approved.we were unaware of the problem untill it

was already setteled.cara has been on this same dose for 6 yrs now. we

never again had any problems

c.

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I would also say that whenever you are really getting into it with

your insurance company you want to put everything in writing - use

faxes and emails to the extent possible instead of (or, better, in

addition to) phone calls, and always start off the letter asking for

what you want and then summarizing everything you've done to get it so

far. My understanding is that no insurance company wants a huge

patient file sitting around with perfect documentation of how they've

denied reasonable requests for medical treatment time and time again,

but every page you write goes right into their files... tx,

Nina in Philly

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Good advice Nina, thank you.LeeI would also say that whenever you are really getting into it with your insurance company you want to put everything in writing - use faxes and emails to the extent possible instead of (or, better, in addition to) phone calls, and always start off the letter asking for what you want and then summarizing everything you've done to get it so far. My understanding is that no insurance company wants a huge patient file sitting around with perfect documentation of how they've denied reasonable requests for medical treatment time and time again, but every page you write goes right into their files... tx,Nina in Philly

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Hi Pamela

Well, I have to say that my experience with high dose URSO has been

much better. My drug benefit plan at work did, however, impose some

limitations insofar as the insurance company no longer covers the

brand name version of URSO or any other meds when generic forms are

available. So instead, I get the generic form of URSO which my

hepatologist didn't think would yield markedly different results and

all is good.

One perhaps not so minor thing, I do live up in Canada so there are

some inherent differences between our healthcare systems. But

independent of that, my main concern is with my drug benefit plan

offered through work. And I'm very happy I have that since I see what

the meds would've otherwise cost me. Ouch!

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