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The following poll is now closed. Here are the

final results:

POLL QUESTION: I have PSC and my " normal " body temperature is (your ID will NOT

be displayed):

CHOICES AND RESULTS

- <= 96 °F (21.3 °C), 5 votes, 15.15%

- > 96 but <= 97 °F (21.9 °C), 10 votes, 30.30%

- > 97 but <= 98 °F (22.4 °C), 10 votes, 30.30%

- >98 but <= 99 °F (23.0 °C), 8 votes, 24.24%

- >99 but <= 100 °F (23.6 °C), 0 votes, 0.00%

- >100 °F (24.1 °C), 0 votes, 0.00%

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I wish more people had weighed in on this poll as it looks like a

trend that might

be something worth questioning.

With only 33 people responding , I'm not sure.

I noticed some of the other polls have many more participants.

Arne, maybe we should try again sometime.

Maybe people didn't want to take the time to take their temperature.

Also , if we did it again, should there be some guidelines, like say

a waking temperature?

Temperature has peaks at different times of the day and is effected

by food/drink.

Maybe if we make it a bit more of an experiment?

Lee

On Dec 1, 2007, at 3:43 AM, wrote:

>

> The following poll is now closed. Here are the

> final results:

>

>

> POLL QUESTION: I have PSC and my " normal " body temperature is (your

> ID will NOT be displayed):

>

> CHOICES AND RESULTS

> - <= 96 °F (21.3 °C), 5 votes, 15.15%

> - > 96 but <= 97 °F (21.9 °C), 10 votes, 30.30%

> - > 97 but <= 98 °F (22.4 °C), 10 votes, 30.30%

> - >98 but <= 99 °F (23.0 °C), 8 votes, 24.24%

> - >99 but <= 100 °F (23.6 °C), 0 votes, 0.00%

> - >100 °F (24.1 °C), 0 votes, 0.00%

>

>

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-----Original Message-----

- <= 96 °F (21.3 °C), 5 votes, 15.15% 

- > 96 but <= 97 °F (21.9 °C), 10 votes,

30.30% 

- > 97 but <= 98 °F (22.4 °C), 10 votes, 30.30%  

- >98 but <= 99 °F (23.0 °C), 8 votes,

24.24% 

IMHO you're grasping at straws again.  Something we tend to do from time to time when

feeling helpless.  Does anyone really think your body temp (high or low) causes your bile

ducts to become inflamed and scared?  Causes

colitis, Crohn's or cirrhosis?  If it

were that simple, we would have been cured years ago.  If the best minds in the medical world haven’t

figured it out, surely it’s a bit more complicated than body temp.  That’s probably the reason so few

responded to the survey…..  But for

those not convinced, read on:

From:  http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/body-temperature

What is normal body temperature?

Most people think of a " normal " body

temperature as an oral temperature of 98.6 F. This is an average of normal body temperatures. Your temperature

may actually be 1°F (0.6°C) or more above or below 98.6 F. Also, your normal body temperature

changes by as much as 1°F (0.6°C) throughout the day, depending on how active

you are and the time of day. Body temperature is very sensitive to hormone

levels and may be higher or lower when a woman is ovulating

or having her menstrual period. 

The average normal temperature is 98.6 F. However,

" normal " varies from person to person. Your temperature will also vary throughout

the day, usually being lowest in the early morning and rising as much as 1°F

(0.6°C) in the early evening. Your temperature may also rise by 1°F (0.6°C) or more if you exercise

on a hot day.

From Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/body-temperature/AN01513

Although normal human body temperature is usually

stated as 98.6 F (37 C) orally, it actually ranges from 97.5 to 98.8 F (36.4 to

37.1 C). Some people have temperatures in the 96 F range and feel fine. Your

body temperature is not considered dangerously low until it is below 95 F (35

C).

I’m not saying body temp isn’t important,

but if you’re feeling good, that’s all that matters.  If you’re feeling sick, you’re feeling

sick, even if a little thing you stick under your tongue says you aren’t.  How many have gone to the ER saying they were

sick, temp says “normal” and you’re sent home in the middle

of a Cholangitis attack!  Ken was in ICU, white count sky high, with

an infection and a normal temp!  If they

had gone by his temp alone, they would have never looked for the infection.  Sorry for length.   

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Hi Barb,

Just so you know for the poll results, the

calculation for converting Fahrenheit degrees to Celcius degrees is: 

°C = (°F - 32) / 1.8

So if you have 100 °F

(100 - 32) / 1.8 = 37.778 °C

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Sent: December-01-07 9:37 AM

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-----Original

Message-----

- <= 96 °F (21.3 °C), 5 votes, 15.15%

- > 96 but <= 97

°F (21.9 °C), 10 votes, 30.30%

- > 97 but <= 98 °F (22.4 °C), 10 votes, 30.30%

- >98 but <= 99

°F (23.0 °C), 8 votes, 24.24%

IMHO you're grasping at straws again. Something we tend to

do from time to time when feeling helpless. Does anyone really think your body temp (high or low)

causes your bile ducts to become inflamed and scared? Causes colitis,

Crohn's or cirrhosis? If it were that simple, we would have been cured

years ago. If the best minds in the medical world haven’t figured

it out, surely it’s a bit more complicated than body temp.

That’s probably the reason so few responded to the survey…..

But for those not convinced, read on:

From: http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/body-temperature

What is normal body temperature?

Most people think of a " normal " body temperature as an

oral temperature of 98.6 F. This is an average of normal body temperatures. Your temperature may actually be 1°F (0.6°C) or more

above or below 98.6 F. Also, your normal body temperature

changes by as much as 1°F (0.6°C) throughout the day, depending on how active

you are and the time of day. Body temperature is very sensitive to hormone

levels and may be higher or lower when a woman is ovulating or having

her menstrual period.

The average normal temperature is 98.6 F. However,

" normal " varies from person to person. Your

temperature will also vary throughout the day, usually being lowest in the

early morning and rising as much as 1°F (0.6°C) in the early evening.

Your temperature may also rise by 1°F (0.6°C) or more if you exercise on a hot

day.

From Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/body-temperature/AN01513

Although normal human body temperature is usually stated as 98.6 F

(37 C) orally, it actually ranges from 97.5 to 98.8 F (36.4 to 37.1 C). Some

people have temperatures in the 96 F range and feel fine. Your body temperature

is not considered dangerously low until it is below 95 F (35 C).

I’m not saying body temp isn’t important, but if

you’re feeling good, that’s all that matters. If you’re

feeling sick, you’re feeling sick, even if a little thing you stick under

your tongue says you aren’t. How many have gone to the ER saying

they were sick, temp says “normal” and you’re sent home in

the middle of a Cholangitis attack! Ken was in ICU, white count sky high, with an

infection and a normal temp! If they had gone by his temp alone, they

would have never looked for the infection. Sorry for length.

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Of course not! I can't imagine that anyone thinks low (or high) body

temperature causes PSC, UC, Crohns, asthma - but if it is beyond the " norm " it

may be a symptom of something else, and may lead to investigation of the cause,

which may lead to a new treatment, etc. You can't have too much data.

Arne

---- Barb Henshaw wrote:

.... Does anyone really think your body temp (high or low) causes your bile ducts

to become inflamed and scarred? Causes colitis, Crohn's or cirrhosis? If it

were that simple, we would have been cured years ago...

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-Original Message-----

Of course not! I can't imagine that

anyone thinks low (or high) body temperature causes PSC, UC, Crohns, asthma -

but if it is beyond the " norm "

Ahhhhh there’s

the rub….. what is normal? With so many differences to take into

consideration, how can anyone pick a one size 98.6 fits all and call it normal? I think we each have our very own

normal. Thanks Arne, good

discussion.

Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight, Whatever it Takes!

Son Ken (33) UC 91 - PSC 99 - Tx 6/21 & 6/30/07 @ Baylor in Dallas

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Well, I wouldn't say grasping at straws, just gathering more data for the big picture. Normal is an average and there are those that will fall below and above 98.6.I just think it is interesting for a rare group of people to have a majority be on one end of that range rather than allover it. That's why I was wondering if more people answered, if this would end up being the case.If not and it is truly a trend with our PSCers then I would wonder why. Maybe the answer would lead to anothercommonality and another. Lee-----Original Message------ <= 96 °F (21.3 °C), 5 votes, 15.15% - > 96 but <= 97 °F (21.9 °C), 10 votes, 30.30% - > 97 but <= 98 °F (22.4 °C), 10 votes, 30.30%  - >98 but <= 99 °F (23.0 °C), 8 votes, 24.24%  IMHO you're grasping at straws again.  Something we tend to do from time to time when feeling helpless.  Does anyone really think your body temp (high or low) causes your bile ducts to become inflamed and scared?  Causes colitis, Crohn's or cirrhosis?  If it were that simple, we would have been cured years ago.  If the best minds in the medical world haven’t figured it out, surely it’s a bit more complicated than body temp.  That’s probably the reason so few responded to the survey….. But for those not convinced, read on: 

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It may even be a symptom, who knows. It

still is interesting IMHO.

Regards,

Chaim Boermeester

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of leedeubert

Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007

03:24

To:

Subject: Re: Poll

results for

Well, I

wouldn't say grasping at straws, just gathering more data for the big

picture.

Normal

is an average and there are those that will fall below and above 98.6.

I just think it is interesting for a rare group of people to have a

majority be on one end of that range rather than all

over it. That's why I was wondering if more people answered, if this

would end up being the case.

If not and it is truly a trend with our PSCers then I would wonder why.

Maybe the answer would lead to another

commonality and another.

Lee

-----Original

Message-----

- <= 96 °F (21.3 °C), 5 votes, 15.15%

-

> 96 but <= 97 °F

(21.9 °C),

10 votes, 30.30%

- > 97 but <= 98 °F (22.4 °C), 10 votes, 30.30%

-

>98 but <= 99 °F

(23.0 °C),

8 votes, 24.24%

IMHO you're grasping

at straws again. Something we tend to do from time to time when feeling

helpless. Does anyone really

think your body temp (high or low) causes your bile ducts to become inflamed

and scared? Causes colitis, Crohn's or cirrhosis? If it were that

simple, we would have been cured years ago. If the best minds in the

medical world haven’t figured it out, surely it’s a bit more complicated than

body temp. That’s probably the reason so few responded to the

survey….. But for those not convinced, read on:

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