Re: (unknown)

[Guest guest]

Melody,

I am so sorry that you have had to endure a misdiagnosis all these years. I

don't have the name of a specific nsg in NC, but there is a list if you go

to the WACMA website. As for what your doctors said, this IS something that

you need to take care of. When I was diagnosed, I was told that I had

Chiari, but that surgery wasn't usually done until " a person can't walk

anymore. " I wasn't willing to wait that long. I hope this helps.

Hugs

in PA

Chiari 1, 10mm

Decompressed 07/01

(unknown)

> Hello, my name is Melody, I reside in NC. Let me get straight to the

> point. I had an MRI a month ago and then a CT scan a few weeks ago.

> I was diagnosed with Chiari I, but my doctors told me it was nothing

> to be concerned with. I have been told time after time that I was

> having severe sinus problems, but the CT scan proved otherwise. I

> cringed when I think of all the money, pills, shots that I had to

> endure for a illness that I never had. I have had severe headaches

> for weeks at a time; some so severe that I couldn't lay my head down

> at night, dizziness, severe fatigue, stiff neck, hoarseness, sore

> muscles, a painful weakness in my arms and legs, sharp, shooting

> pain in my head that made me feel that I would pass out, when I

> sneeze, I get dizzy and it feels like I'm going to pass out. My

> health has really grown worse over the years, but finally after

> researching the malformation that I was told wasn't anything, I can

> now understand what's going on with me. However, my doctors seem to

> think that maybe I'm depressed or my thyroid is acting up. When the

> doctor saw how upset I had become after he suggested that I was

> suffering from depression he said that maybe it was my thyroid. What

> I need to know from this group is how do I get him to listen to what

> I've found on the internet? Or does anyone know of a doctor in North

> Carolina that they could recommend. Thank you very much for reading

> my lengthy post, please forgive me.

>

> Thanks,

> Melody

>

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[Guest guest]

Iam going throught the same symptoms as you are, my NSG also told me it was

no big deal. When he first gave me the dx of Chiari, he said I needed a Cine

Mri to see WHAT kind of surgery I needed. Then after seeing what insurance

plan I had and that he wouldnt be paid much, he said it was no big deal and

to deal with it. So here I sit in pain and all that goes with it.

[Guest guest]

That makes me mad!!!! Its all about money over there.

Sorry to hear of you dilemma.

I lie in Sydney and do not pay much at all for my healthcare.

my last cine mri was free via the government.

For all my medications I pay a mere $3.60 each.

Regards,

McCreath

Re: (unknown)

: Iam going throught the same symptoms as you are, my NSG also told me it

was

: no big deal. When he first gave me the dx of Chiari, he said I needed a

Cine

: Mri to see WHAT kind of surgery I needed. Then after seeing what

insurance

: plan I had and that he wouldnt be paid much, he said it was no big deal

and

: to deal with it. So here I sit in pain and all that goes with it.

:

:

:

[Guest guest]

oops sorry about the spelling errors Guys.

Re: (unknown)

:

:

: : Iam going throught the same symptoms as you are, my NSG also told me it

: was

: : no big deal. When he first gave me the dx of Chiari, he said I needed a

: Cine

: : Mri to see WHAT kind of surgery I needed. Then after seeing what

: insurance

: : plan I had and that he wouldnt be paid much, he said it was no big deal

: and

: : to deal with it. So here I sit in pain and all that goes with it.

: :

: :

: :

[Guest guest]

Okay, here goes......I tried Elavil but it didn't work for me. None of the

meds. I tried did work for very long anyways. My neurosurgeon has

recommended surgery. I have the exact same arm/leg pain that you're talking

about. Wish I could tell you how to make it go away That is actually

part of why he recommends surgery. The sneezing makes me dizzy (but it

seems like everything makes me dizzy) but I have never passed out. I have

the memory loss but don't know if it's Chiari related or just because I'm

overloading my brain with tons of info. all at once. Me with Chiari & a

Basilar impression, my daughter with ADHD and my son being a former-preemie,

I have alot of stuff that I'm constantly trying to keep track of!! My poor

brain just wasn't meant for this much information!!! lol! :-)

a in WA

To: chiari

Subject: (unknown)

Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:47:12 -0000

I read the messages about the Elavil, and I appreciate all the

information. Someone asked why I didn't want to take

antidepressants, well, I really don't want to take any medicine at

all. I've been on Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, many migraine meds, loads

of sinus meds, Vicadin, Tylenol with codeine and nothing has worked

to relieve my pain. But, I will try Elavil, you never know this

might actually work. I don't mean to sound so sarcastic, but I'm

tired and confused. All these years I've lived with this pain, but

in the last 4 years it has worsened. Many people don't understand

why I'm always tired, or why I walk like I have arthritis. Don't get

me wrong, I'm not complaining, because I know that there are others

in worse shape than myself. I'm thankful that my husband is very

understanding, I had to quit my job because the pain and " severe

sinus infection " was wearing me out, I could no longer function at

work. I'm sorry for rambling, I'm really not having a good day at

all. Before I close, I have some questions that I'm curious about.

Has anyone ever experienced pain in your arm or leg, pain that seems

almost numbling but still a dull hurting pain. In the leg it hurt to

put pressure on it and in the arm it hurts to move it. Also, I

wanted to know about sharp, shooting pain in the head that leaves

you confused and feels if maybe you could black out. Or has anyone

ever sneezed hard enough that you've gotten dizzy and passed out?

And last but not least, any problems with short term memory?

Sorry So Lengthy,

Melody

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated Tue, 18 Jun 2002 4:48:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, UGLYFirst

writes:

<< Or has anyone ever sneezed hard enough that you've gotten dizzy and passed

out? And last but not least, any problems with short term memory? >>

Hi Melody,

Something like this has happened to me occasionally. I don't really get dizzy

when I sneeze but I do sometimes find it hard to catch my breath for about one

or two seconds after I have sneezed at times. I have never passed out when this

happens though. Also, I do have some short-term memory difficulties. When I

first sign on to the internet to look for something very specific, I sometimes

cannot remember what I was going to search for. I seem to have a difficult time

with concentrating.

Take CARE and God bless!

from La Verne, CA

ACM II, syrinx, spina bifida

Syringo-subarachnoid shunt (Nov, 1995)

VP Shunt replacement (Nov, 1996)

Posterior Fossa Decompression w/ C1-C2 laminectomy (March 6, 1997)

VP Shunt replacement (June 5, 1998)

Now Diagnosed with significant kyphosis at the Cervico-thoracic juntion.

[Guest guest]

Hi group,

The sneezing thing is what really got my attention. For instance, when my

daughter and I would be in the stable cleaning stalls (with the dust and all)

I can remember one instance where I sneezed, had a lightning-bolt pain down

my arm, across my back and through my head and neck. When I woke up( blacked

out momentarily) I was down on the floor of the stall in the pine shavings.

Afterward for about 30 minutes my arm felt " real tired, semi-numb " . Before

that day when I would sneeze, it would seem like I would just black out for a

second. That was scary when I would be driving. Has anyone else out there

had these lightning bolt pains? Believe me you would remember them if you

had!

Carol

Ft. Pierce, Fl.

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message ---

> HI, Could you please post to the group for this one. I am heading into

surgery on August 1, 2002 and I would like to know of some ideas for

coverups also. I dont want my kids to be frightened from the incision.

Thanks.<

If your hair has any length to it, this won't be a problem. Only a strip of

hair is shaved from the neck up, leaving enough on top to hang over the

incision and cover it.

No one saw my incision unless I parted my hair and showed it to them and my

doctor does a large incision, I had 28 staples.

I went to my son's soccer game 12 days after surgery, and even the wind

didn't reveal my incision (my hubby was standing behind me and curious to

see if it stayed covered).

My teenager loved showing it to her friends and my 9 year old wasn't

bothered at all. I don't know how younger kids would react! Anyone?

Hang in there and good luck!

Cheri

[Guest guest]

My daughter was 2 going on 3 when I had my second surgery. She

always wanted to see the scar. She still asks to see my owie every

now and then.

Take care-

in Texas

>

> ----- Original Message ---

> > HI, Could you please post to the group for this one. I am

heading into

> surgery on August 1, 2002 and I would like to know of some ideas for

> coverups also. I dont want my kids to be frightened from the

incision.

> Thanks.<

>

>

> If your hair has any length to it, this won't be a problem. Only a

strip of

> hair is shaved from the neck up, leaving enough on top to hang over

the

> incision and cover it.

>

> No one saw my incision unless I parted my hair and showed it to

them and my

> doctor does a large incision, I had 28 staples.

>

> I went to my son's soccer game 12 days after surgery, and even the

wind

> didn't reveal my incision (my hubby was standing behind me and

curious to

> see if it stayed covered).

>

> My teenager loved showing it to her friends and my 9 year old wasn't

> bothered at all. I don't know how younger kids would react!

Anyone?

>

> Hang in there and good luck!

> Cheri

[Guest guest]

hi ann,

thank you for your response. you have described me. my

paralysis has let up since my decompression but it is

returning intermittently. and i am very weak on my

right side. so much so that i had to quit my job. i

was a hairdresser for 10 years. i can still cut hair

on the side but i was doing mass production, like 20

to 30 haircuts in a 4 hr shift. i was dropping my

scissors and shaking. and paperwork i had done for 8

yrs i all of a sudden looked at and didnt know how to

begin. i used to be able to hold a conversation and

still do the paperwork. at that moment when i sat

there and everything looked foreign to me i was very

scared. i knew it was time to move on in life. now i

am home and taking care of two little ones which is

just as frustrating.lol. i go to my nsg on aug first.

scared of what he is going to say. thanks again,

nicole

-- Ann Hixon wrote:

> I have short term memory loss which is getting worse

> as time goes by. Also

> my speech is getting slower and I forget what it was

> I was talking about in

> the first place. It is getting very frustrating. My

> hubby and daughter who is

> my carer can usually work out what I mean but others

> can't and I get awful

> looks from people. I am seeing my nsg in 2 weeks so

> I am going to bring to

> his notice and also the paralaysis on my right side.

> Does anyone else have

> paralysis? regards Ann in Brisbane Australia

>

> Turkin wrote:

>

> > hi all,

> > has anyone had any problems either pre or post op

> with

> > memory loss? like gaps in their memory or

> especially

> > short term for example when i am trying to talk

> ill

> > all of a sudden lose track of what i was going to

> say.

> > i never had that problem before. i was always

> known

> > for my excellent memory but since i became

> symptomatic

> > especially after the decompression surgery it is

> > worse. for the first three months i had to call my

> mom

> > and ask her three times when my sons bday is and

> he is

> > only 4.

> > thanks,

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

well jessica im sorry to hear you were diagnosed but

you have left out alot of info for helping you

understand. like why are they still diagnosing you?

what tests have you gone through and what are you

scheduled for? are you sure you need surgery? after

surgery you need about three months recovery but it is

a life long battle. you will feel relief of the

surgery about a month after but you still cant over do

it. the surgery isnt a cure all method it is for

chiarians who have no relief in site and need help. i

still suffer but am better in the long run. no they

dont need to shave your whole head. my hair is one

length to my shoulders and noone knew i was shaved

underneath because of the fact that it is one length i

could cover it up. if you are layered and short you

will be able to tell. give us more info on your

diagnosis and what your dr told you and ill help you

as much as possible with opinion.

good luck.

-

-- jessica goldner wrote:

>

> Hi my name is jessica. I just diagnosed Chiri

> malformation ! but they are still dignosing me. HOw

> long does it take to recover? Do they remove all the

> hair? I am just so scared!!!!!

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

,

Being dx with chiari was scarry pobably for all of us.

The best thing to do is educate yourself by reading

the postings and all the info on the wacma website.

PLEASE remember that many who have chosen to have

surgery are no longer on the website since they are

continuing on with their lives.

I am so grateful that there are a few who have chosen

surgery, had FULL recovery (Chip comes to mind) and

are still here helping those of us who have not had

surgery or who have continuing problems after surgery.

Make sure you have a Dr VERY knowledgable with chiari

to help guide you. I wish I'd found this site before

surgery and had seen one of the " specialists " listed

on the wacma site.

As far as hair... mine is shoulder length and layered,

they shaved the lower part leaving plenty that hid the

back. When I woke up from surgery my surgeon was quite

proud of his " Pebbles " hair doo. It stayed that way

until I was allowed to wash it.

Keep reading the postings and learning everything

about your case and chiari as you can. We will be here

to support you.

We all seem to have good days and bad, and as for

myself I wouldn't choose to have this wrong with me

but I have learned a great many things that I wouldn't

have learned any other way.

Hang in there. AND Be not afraid.

Pam in Oregon

41 years

MVA 3-4-97

ACM 1 10 mm herniation

decompressed 7-21-99

having more and more problems, need a 4 wheeled walker

--- jessica goldner wrote:

>

> Hi my name is jessica. I just diagnosed Chiri

> malformation ! but they are still dignosing me. HOw

> long does it take to recover? Do they remove all the

> hair? I am just so scared!!!!!

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

absolutely. the way my doctor says it is because of

the hormone increase. definitely a chiari factor. and

i gained ALOT of weight after my decompression

surgery.

nicole from michigan

--- jessica goldner wrote:

>

> THIS IS FOR THE WOMEN. DO YOUR SYMPTOMS GET WORSE

> WITH PMS AND YOUR PERIOD??? HAVE YOU GAINED ALOT OF

> WEIGHT FROM THIS???

>

> PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR INPUT

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

thank you

--- beth wrote:

> A syrinx is a cyst in the spinal cord.

>

> Brinna's Dream.com

> http://www.brinnasdream.com

> (unknown)

>

>

> can anyone tell me a simple term definition of a

> syrinx?

> nicole

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

A syrinx is a cyst in the spinal cord.

Brinna's Dream.com

http://www.brinnasdream.com

(unknown)

can anyone tell me a simple term definition of a

syrinx?

nicole

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi everybody,

We will all be thinking of you on Monday, Debbie.

I have not had my surgery yet; but I did see 2 nsg's

and used the list of ?s on the WACMA site to begin my

personal list. Then, of course, I thought of at least

a dozen more ?s when I got home. My nsg (the second

one I saw) gave me his card with his phone and email,

so I gave him a call and he actually returned my call!

I was pleasantly surprised at that. I have also made

another appt. with him to just ask ?s about 10 days

before my surgery on 9/4. I originally forgot to ask:

how long before I can stay alone overnight and all

day,

how long until I can drive, how much hair does he

shave, should I take a shirt that buttons to the

hospital to wear home (can't imagine pulling one over

my head), what are " trouble " signs to watch for

afterwards and when to call him, how will he suggest

for me to sleep/be in a comfortable position

afterwards, what will he order for pain control while

in the hospital and after coming home, and too many

more ?s to list. However, I do keep a small notebook

that I have been using to record everything since

diagnosis and keep a running list of ?s to take with

me.

sorry this is sooo long but you did ask ;o)!!

Take a couple of deep breaths and take care...

joy

--- debbie fitzgerald wrote:

>

> Hello to all

>

> WE will be on are way to phx to the Barrow inst.On

> Monday AM. We will be seeing Dr Rekate on Monday at

> 2;30

>

> This will be my first visit to a ngs. And Iam scared

> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> I have read all of the AMC site about what to ask

> the ngs.

>

> Is that all I need?

>

> I want so much to get better .I pray they will help

> me. but I don't want to have surgery. I really just

> want the magic wand treatment . LOL

>

> any help from those of you who have don't this

> before would help.

>

> I showed my children , mom and of corse my hubby

> How to post to you. If they do Please

> understand they are scared. They are wounderfull to

> me . They do so much for me . I couldn't ask for

> more.Please help them with the truth.

>

> We tell the children the whole truth. even when it

> not a good thing.

>

> I have had 4 mris after my accident 4 years ago. the

> last one showed the chiari. that was in May.

>

> So what might the Dr want me to bring?

>

> What happened on your first visit?

>

> I have read about people who have surgery days after

> there apt. Dose this happen a lot?

>

> Any help would be nice thank you all

>

> Debbie Fitz in AZ

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

I could just picture how frustrated would be in a situation like this,

let alone it would probably drive ME nuts! I'm beginning to think that you

might be better off homeschooling Liesel and trying to arrange play dates

for her or having her spend time in a small home setting daycare!

Sue

[Guest guest]

We have this posted on the wall at my job!We also play our local christian

radio station(89.3 ksbj) over the outside speakers!They play contemporary

christian music.The customers love it.Do you ever watch the 700 club? Bobbie

(unknown)

> I hope this does not offend anyone.

>

> HERE ARE THE POSITIVES

>

> For all the negative things we have to say to ourselves, God has a

> positive

> answer for each one ...

> You say: " It's impossible " God says: All things are possible (Luke

18:27)

> You say: " I'm too tired " God says: I will give you rest ( 11:28!

> -30)

> You say: " Nobody really loves me " God says: I love you ( 3:16 &

> 13:34)

> You say: " I can't go on " God says: My grace is sufficient (II

Corinthians

> 12:9 & Psalm 6:15)

> You say: " I can't figure things out " God says: I will direct your steps

> (Proverbs 3:5-6)

> You say: " I can'! t do it " God says: you can do all things (Philippians

> 4:13)

> You say: " I'm not able " God says: I am able (II Corinthians 9:8)

> You say " It's not worth it " God says: It will be worth it (Romans 8:28)

> You say: " I can't forgive myself " God says: I FORGIVE YOU (I 1:9 &

> Romans 8:1)

> You say: " I can't manage " God says: I will supply all your needs

> (Philippians 4:19)

> You say: " I'm afraid " God says: I have not given you a spirit of fear

(II

> 1:7)

> You say: " I'm always worried and frustrated " God says: Cast all your

> cares

> on ME (I 5:7)

> You say: I'm not smart enough " God says: I give you wisdom (I

Corinthians

> 1:30)

> You say: I feel all alone " God says: I will never leave you or forsake

> you

> (Hebrews 13:5)

> If you pass this on, you never know who may be in need of encouragement

> today!

>

>

>

> Tina & Mike H.

> God Bless you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bobbie!! I love this!! I will share this with my bible study group!!

The woman in my group need a lot of encouragement..

Re: (unknown)

We have this posted on the wall at my job!We also play our local christian

radio station(89.3 ksbj) over the outside speakers!They play contemporary

christian music.The customers love it.Do you ever watch the 700 club? Bobbie

(unknown)

> I hope this does not offend anyone.

>

> HERE ARE THE POSITIVES

>

> For all the negative things we have to say to ourselves, God has a

> positive

> answer for each one ...

> You say: " It's impossible " God says: All things are possible (Luke

18:27)

> You say: " I'm too tired " God says: I will give you rest ( 11:28!

> -30)

> You say: " Nobody really loves me " God says: I love you ( 3:16 &

> 13:34)

> You say: " I can't go on " God says: My grace is sufficient (II

Corinthians

> 12:9 & Psalm 6:15)

> You say: " I can't figure things out " God says: I will direct your steps

> (Proverbs 3:5-6)

> You say: " I can'! t do it " God says: you can do all things (Philippians

> 4:13)

> You say: " I'm not able " God says: I am able (II Corinthians 9:8)

> You say " It's not worth it " God says: It will be worth it (Romans 8:28)

> You say: " I can't forgive myself " God says: I FORGIVE YOU (I 1:9 &

> Romans 8:1)

> You say: " I can't manage " God says: I will supply all your needs

> (Philippians 4:19)

> You say: " I'm afraid " God says: I have not given you a spirit of fear

(II

> 1:7)

> You say: " I'm always worried and frustrated " God says: Cast all your

> cares

> on ME (I 5:7)

> You say: I'm not smart enough " God says: I give you wisdom (I

Corinthians

> 1:30)

> You say: I feel all alone " God says: I will never leave you or forsake

> you

> (Hebrews 13:5)

> If you pass this on, you never know who may be in need of encouragement

> today!

>

>

>

> Tina & Mike H.

> God Bless you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I most certainly did but she just really didn't want it after it was in the mail

for a couple days! LOL

(unknown)

No , I didn't offer to give Cindy a turd but did! LOL!

Hugz- Terrie in Texas

[Guest guest]

LOL thanks d sent it on to all my friends

Jeannie

(unknown)

> OHHH NOOO!!

>

>

> There are witches in my mailbox.

> What am I to do?

>

> I found them there this morning,

> doing things they shouldn't do!!

>

> How the witches got there,

> I haven't got a clue.

>

> But they won't be there much longer

> because I'm sending them to

>

> YOU!!!!!!

>

> You've been Witch Kissed!

>

> Before the warts begin to spread,

> pass the kisses on instead!

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL thanks d sent it on to all my friends

Jeannie

(unknown)

> OHHH NOOO!!

>

>

> There are witches in my mailbox.

> What am I to do?

>

> I found them there this morning,

> doing things they shouldn't do!!

>

> How the witches got there,

> I haven't got a clue.

>

> But they won't be there much longer

> because I'm sending them to

>

> YOU!!!!!!

>

> You've been Witch Kissed!

>

> Before the warts begin to spread,

> pass the kisses on instead!

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm ,40 years old and just recently diagnosed.Don't know how long I've

actually had it but atleast i know now.I'm sorry to hear about the horrible

accident that had you bed ridden for so many years,losing your husband and being

left alone. Thank the Lord for his wonderful blessing of your daughter who was

there for you along with The Lord. Congrats on going back to school! Good luck

to you and I hope you do well.I'm sorry your stress has you in a flare.Give it

all to God and he will help ease your worry mind. My friend is taking the new

Lyrica and she is doing great! I don't know much about the drug myself so I

cannot tell you about weight gain. Hope you enjoy the group and looking forward

to talking with you.

BRENDA ASH wrote: Hi,

My name is and I am new here, I ahve had fibro it seems like all my

life. I am 52 yrs old. i ahve 3 loving daughters and my husband has 3 daughters

and I ahve had 10 foster kids.

This was until this horrible accident in my life I was hit by a drunk

driver, he got nothing, I spent 15 years in bed that was in 1986. divorced, and

left alone. I pulled my self out in 2003

with the help of my oldest daughter and the Lord, now I live day to day

couting my blessings. I am in school ( yes at my age!!) I went back to college

to get my degree. It is hard. especially right now it is exam week and the

stress has me in a fibro flare up!!

My exam in accounting is due by midnight Thursday. and I cannot think, I

need to be in bed althought the pain right now is unbearable.

well enough belly aching.

Is anyone on the new fibro med I have heard about? I want to try it but i am

extremly over weight and I read weight gain is a factor any advise,

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[Guest guest]

That's good news, Cheryl. Thanks for sharing.

Jeanne in WI

Good Evening everyone, I just wanted to give you all a update on my Mom. She

is finally at home,and doing wonderful.although she has to use a walker for now.

Thanks for all your prayers and wonderful thoughts. Your Friend Cheryl

Just Being Me

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Hello all,

I am having a very stressful time. My husbands 9 year old son is here, and he

does things like wipe poop on walls and then denies doing it when asked. I knew

this had happened buy hadnt said anything to the child as I was going to wait to

see if dad would take care of it. You see dad and I have had issues with the

fact that he will no discipline the child when he is here. I seem to be the one

to have to do it,,,,,then dad feels bad for him. But when it is my children it

is totally different. So the child wiped poop on the bathroom wall, and dad

comes home see's it before I can even show him and cleans it up hopeing that I

hadn't seen it so the child doesn't get in trouble. OMG. I am so dam

frustrated with this situation. It is something all the time with this

situation. But why can't this father do positive discipline,and logical

consiquenses with the child?? Is there something that I am not seeing? He will

ignore all wrong doing's by the

child. I feel that the child is the one suffering, because it becomes an even

bigger issue when the father ignores things, or covers up for the child. This

child will never learn.

Cbaker

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That's good news, Cheryl. Thanks for sharing.

Jeanne in WI

Good Evening everyone, I just wanted to give you all a update on my Mom. She is

finally at home,and doing wonderful.although she has to use a walker for now.

Thanks for all your prayers and wonderful thoughts. Your Friend Cheryl

Just Being Me