Re: Hoping for some advice

[Guest guest]

This is going to sound strange but do you have Fibromyalgia type

symptoms, too? I am asking because you had a good response to

antibiotics and this made me think you could possibly have Lyme

Disease. Fibromyalgia mimics Lyme Disease - the symptoms are very

similar. A somewhat common symptom of Lyme (and/or a coinfection

called Bartonella) is Vulvodynia.

Just a thought. It may be worth getting tested by a reliable lab for

Lyme Disease by a Lyme Literate physician to rule it out.

Dr. Metzger did a very good presentation at the International Lyme

and Associated Disease annual conference last month about vulvodynia

and Lyme. She is a well known doctor that treats vulvodynia and Lyme

Disease.

Unfortunately I have both.

I hope you figure it out and resolve your pain.

Take care

>

> I have had itching/burning for almost 2 yrs. now. When it first

> started, I was diagnosed with BV and yeast together. I had never

had

> any problems down there before and didn't expect it would become a

> huge deal.

>

> The treatments didn't seem to help. The problem got worse. I saw

> numerous gynocologists and several dermatologists. Eventually, I

was

> put on a steroid cream that seemed to at least bring me some relief.

>

> Coincidentally, I stopped having my periods at the same time that

> this problem began. Finally, someone did bloodwork that showed I

was

> menopausal. After lingering around this group for awhile, I

decided

> to try Estriol cream. At the same time, I had been put on

> Amoxicillin for Bronchitis. Much to my surpise, the

itching/burning

> completely went away! It was gone for an entire 2 wks. Prior to

> this it was there everyday. I assumed the improvement was from the

> Estriol, but it returned about a week after stopping the

> Amoxicillin. I keep using the Estriol and it doesn't seem as

though

> it's helping. :-( It is still better, as I don't have to use the

> steroid cream, but it's still a little bit itchy. Now I'm not sure

> if I have some rare infection that the Amoxicillin helped, or I

just

> need more Estriol? I am at my wits end with this thing!

>

> I would really appreciate any thoughts or advice.

>

[Guest guest]

Strange that you would ask! Actually, I have had various aches &

pains (neck, back, shoulders, arms, legs, hands, etc.) I have had to

see a chiropractor at least once a week to control the pain for about

5 years. When I went on the Amoxicillin, the aches & pains

completely vanished and have yet to return! I haven't had to see my

chiropractor for 6 or 7 weeks. I have never been able to go longer

than a week. But, if this were from Lyme disease, would it really go

away that quickly? Honestly, it's so strange, even my chiropractor

called to make sure that everything was ok, because he knows that

I've never been able to miss a week. I know that it's not the

placebo effect, as I never would have thought taking Amoxicillin for

Bronchitis would make my pain go away or help my itching/burning.

> >

> > I have had itching/burning for almost 2 yrs. now. When it first

> > started, I was diagnosed with BV and yeast together. I had never

> had

> > any problems down there before and didn't expect it would become

a

> > huge deal.

> >

> > The treatments didn't seem to help. The problem got worse. I

saw

> > numerous gynocologists and several dermatologists. Eventually, I

> was

> > put on a steroid cream that seemed to at least bring me some

relief.

> >

> > Coincidentally, I stopped having my periods at the same time that

> > this problem began. Finally, someone did bloodwork that showed I

> was

> > menopausal. After lingering around this group for awhile, I

> decided

> > to try Estriol cream. At the same time, I had been put on

> > Amoxicillin for Bronchitis. Much to my surpise, the

> itching/burning

> > completely went away! It was gone for an entire 2 wks. Prior to

> > this it was there everyday. I assumed the improvement was from

the

> > Estriol, but it returned about a week after stopping the

> > Amoxicillin. I keep using the Estriol and it doesn't seem as

> though

> > it's helping. :-( It is still better, as I don't have to use the

> > steroid cream, but it's still a little bit itchy. Now I'm not

sure

> > if I have some rare infection that the Amoxicillin helped, or I

> just

> > need more Estriol? I am at my wits end with this thing!

> >

> > I would really appreciate any thoughts or advice.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lyme is a weird animal. Some folks experience a relief of symptoms

when they take antibiotics and others experience a " die off "

or " herxheimer " reaction and feel worse. Both can be indication that

the antibiotics are killing the germs. Most people eventually do get

sicker before they get better due to the toxin release as the germs

are killed. Some lucky people never experience the " herx " . I have

heard many stories where folks have had Fibromyalgia, MS, Lupus, ALS,

Chronic Fatigue, etc and then finally got their Lyme diagnosis and

recalled these types of reactions to antibiotics when treating

something else.

The tricky thing is to get tested by a reputable lab and get a doctor

who can read the result. The lab that is most frequently used by

good Lyme Dr's is Igenex but there are a couple more that are good,

too. The President of my state Lyme association got copies of her

medical records and discovered she had EIGHT positive Lyme tests over

the years with various doctors who failed to make the correct

diagnosis.

I would highly recommend a good Lyme test - this may be the answer to

many of your aches and pains.

If you need the name of a doctor in your area you can PM me and I can

try to help.

Some good links for Lyme research:

www.ilads.org

www.lymenet.org

http://www.publichealthalert.org/

PM me with any questions!

Take care

Molly

> > >

> > > I have had itching/burning for almost 2 yrs. now. When it

first

> > > started, I was diagnosed with BV and yeast together. I had

never

> > had

> > > any problems down there before and didn't expect it would

become

> a

> > > huge deal.

> > >

> > > The treatments didn't seem to help. The problem got worse. I

> saw

> > > numerous gynocologists and several dermatologists. Eventually,

I

> > was

> > > put on a steroid cream that seemed to at least bring me some

> relief.

> > >

> > > Coincidentally, I stopped having my periods at the same time

that

> > > this problem began. Finally, someone did bloodwork that showed

I

> > was

> > > menopausal. After lingering around this group for awhile, I

> > decided

> > > to try Estriol cream. At the same time, I had been put on

> > > Amoxicillin for Bronchitis. Much to my surpise, the

> > itching/burning

> > > completely went away! It was gone for an entire 2 wks. Prior

to

> > > this it was there everyday. I assumed the improvement was from

> the

> > > Estriol, but it returned about a week after stopping the

> > > Amoxicillin. I keep using the Estriol and it doesn't seem as

> > though

> > > it's helping. :-( It is still better, as I don't have to use

the

> > > steroid cream, but it's still a little bit itchy. Now I'm not

> sure

> > > if I have some rare infection that the Amoxicillin helped, or I

> > just

> > > need more Estriol? I am at my wits end with this thing!

> > >

> > > I would really appreciate any thoughts or advice.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. Molly. Something new for me to research :-(

From what little I have read, it does sound as though I should check

into it.

I went to the gyno. today for a culture, just to be sure that I

wasn't dealing with yeast from the Amoxicillin. They called tonight

saying that I have Gardnerella. Any suggestions for treatments that

work effectively for that without making the skin more irritated?

Thanks,

Kendee

> > > >

> > > > I have had itching/burning for almost 2 yrs. now. When it

> first

> > > > started, I was diagnosed with BV and yeast together. I had

> never

> > > had

> > > > any problems down there before and didn't expect it would

> become

> > a

> > > > huge deal.

> > > >

> > > > The treatments didn't seem to help. The problem got worse.

I

> > saw

> > > > numerous gynocologists and several dermatologists.

Eventually,

> I

> > > was

> > > > put on a steroid cream that seemed to at least bring me some

> > relief.

> > > >

> > > > Coincidentally, I stopped having my periods at the same time

> that

> > > > this problem began. Finally, someone did bloodwork that

showed

> I

> > > was

> > > > menopausal. After lingering around this group for awhile, I

> > > decided

> > > > to try Estriol cream. At the same time, I had been put on

> > > > Amoxicillin for Bronchitis. Much to my surpise, the

> > > itching/burning

> > > > completely went away! It was gone for an entire 2 wks.

Prior

> to

> > > > this it was there everyday. I assumed the improvement was

from

> > the

> > > > Estriol, but it returned about a week after stopping the

> > > > Amoxicillin. I keep using the Estriol and it doesn't seem as

> > > though

> > > > it's helping. :-( It is still better, as I don't have to use

> the

> > > > steroid cream, but it's still a little bit itchy. Now I'm

not

> > sure

> > > > if I have some rare infection that the Amoxicillin helped, or

I

> > > just

> > > > need more Estriol? I am at my wits end with this thing!

> > > >

> > > > I would really appreciate any thoughts or advice.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi:

I take Tindamax for Gardnerella. (BV) It's a pill which doesn't further irritate the tissue. I also start taking Nystatin (for yeast) at the same time since I usually get yeast after treatment for Gardnerella.

What did they give you to use? Tindamax doesn't kill off the good bacteria like other BV treatments, it only kills off the bad.

Sherri

-------------- Original message -------------- > Thanks for the info. Molly. Something new for me to research :-( > From what little I have read, it does sound as though I should check > into it. > > I went to the gyno. today for a culture, just to be sure that I > wasn't dealing with yeast from the Amoxicillin. They called tonight > saying that I have Gardnerella. Any suggestions for treatments that > work effectively for that without making the skin more irritated? > > Thanks, > Kendee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had itching/burning for almost 2 yrs. now. When it > > f

irst > > > > > started, I was diagnosed with BV and yeast together. I had > > never > > > > had > > > > > any problems down there before and didn't expect it would > > become > > > a > > > > > huge deal. > > > > > > > > > > The treatments didn't seem to help. The problem got worse. > I > > > saw > > > > > numerous gynocologists and several dermatologists. > Eventually, > > I > > > > was > > > > > put on a steroid cream that seemed to at least bring me some > > > relief. > > > > > > > > > > Coincidentally, I stopped having my periods at the same time > > that > > > > > this problem began. Finally, someone did bloodwork that > showed > > I > > >

> was > > > > > menopausal. After lingering around this group for awhile, I > > > > decided > > > > > to try Estriol cream. At the same time, I had been put on > > > > > Amoxicillin for Bronchitis. Much to my surpise, the > > > > itching/burning > > > > > completely went away! It was gone for an entire 2 wks. > Prior > > to > > > > > this it was there everyday. I assumed the improvement was > from > > > the > > > > > Estriol, but it returned about a week after stopping the > > > > > Amoxicillin. I keep using the Estriol and it doesn't seem as > > > > though > > > > > it's helping. :-( It is still better, as I don't have to use > > the > > > > > steroid cream, but it's still a little bit itchy. Now I'm > not > > > sure > > > > > if I have some rare infection that the Amoxicillin helped, or > I > > > > just > > > > > need more Estriol? I am at my wits end with this thing! > > > > > > > > > > I would really appreciate any thoughts or advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, > Thanks for your cooperation! ** > > ***

[Guest guest]

I've only had a BV twice. The first time I was given a topical

suppostory med (I think it was a topical antibiotic) but it gave me a

fierce yeast infection and the two Diflucan that my OB/GYN gave me

did virtually nothing for it.

The second time around - which was just recently - I researched it

and found that it is also treated with Flagyl (I think 500 mg 2 x per

day for two weeks). I also found that it was treated with Amoxy in

the 70's and I happened to have Amoxy for my Lyme so I went back on

it and resolved the BV. Of course, I shared this with my Dr. and he

was OK with it.

What I typically do when treating anything is do whatever is least

likely to cause a bad yeast infection. The oral antibiotics were the

best for me but I also use probiotics and Diflucan.

I think Boric Acid will treat some BV's but I only use it

occassionally because I find it to be a little gritty and that causes

some irritation. But what doesn't??????

I hope you can work this all out. It's a tough balancing act.

Feel free to PM me if you have questions.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have had itching/burning for almost 2 yrs. now. When it

> > first

> > > > > started, I was diagnosed with BV and yeast together. I had

> > never

> > > > had

> > > > > any problems down there before and didn't expect it would

> > become

> > > a

> > > > > huge deal.

> > > > >

> > > > > The treatments didn't seem to help. The problem got

worse.

> I

> > > saw

> > > > > numerous gynocologists and several dermatologists.

> Eventually,

> > I

> > > > was

> > > > > put on a steroid cream that seemed to at least bring me

some

> > > relief.

> > > > >

> > > > > Coincidentally, I stopped having my periods at the same

time

> > that

> > > > > this problem began. Finally, someone did bloodwork that

> showed

> > I

> > > > was

> > > > > menopausal. After lingering around this group for awhile,

I

> > > > decided

> > > > > to try Estriol cream. At the same time, I had been put on

> > > > > Amoxicillin for Bronchitis. Much to my surpise, the

> > > > itching/burning

> > > > > completely went away! It was gone for an entire 2 wks.

> Prior

> > to

> > > > > this it was there everyday. I assumed the improvement was

> from

> > > the

> > > > > Estriol, but it returned about a week after stopping the

> > > > > Amoxicillin. I keep using the Estriol and it doesn't seem

as

> > > > though

> > > > > it's helping. :-( It is still better, as I don't have to

use

> > the

> > > > > steroid cream, but it's still a little bit itchy. Now I'm

> not

> > > sure

> > > > > if I have some rare infection that the Amoxicillin helped,

or

> I

> > > > just

> > > > > need more Estriol? I am at my wits end with this thing!

> > > > >

> > > > > I would really appreciate any thoughts or advice.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hmmm....my aches and pains are back too. Maybe I will see my GP

about trying Amoxy for the BV and aches/pains and possibly a referral

to a Lyme specialist.

You said that I could PM you with any questions. I don't know what

PM is! :-( Could I possibly email you?

Kendee

>

> I've only had a BV twice. The first time I was given a topical

> suppostory med (I think it was a topical antibiotic) but it gave me

a

> fierce yeast infection and the two Diflucan that my OB/GYN gave me

> did virtually nothing for it.

>

> The second time around - which was just recently - I researched it

> and found that it is also treated with Flagyl (I think 500 mg 2 x

per

> day for two weeks). I also found that it was treated with Amoxy in

> the 70's and I happened to have Amoxy for my Lyme so I went back on

> it and resolved the BV. Of course, I shared this with my Dr. and

he

> was OK with it.

>

> What I typically do when treating anything is do whatever is least

> likely to cause a bad yeast infection. The oral antibiotics were

the

> best for me but I also use probiotics and Diflucan.

>

> I think Boric Acid will treat some BV's but I only use it

> occassionally because I find it to be a little gritty and that

causes

> some irritation. But what doesn't??????

>

> I hope you can work this all out. It's a tough balancing act.

>

> Feel free to PM me if you have questions.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sherri,

They gave me Metrogel. I still haven't been brave enough to use it

though! LOL I will have to look up Tindamax.

Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have had itching/burning for almost 2 yrs. now. When it

> > > first

> > > > > > started, I was diagnosed with BV and yeast together. I

had

> > > never

> > > > > had

> > > > > > any problems down there before and didn't expect it would

> > > become

> > > > a

> > > > > > huge deal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The treatments didn't seem to help. The problem got

worse.

> > I

> > > > saw

> > > > > > numerous gynocologists and several dermatologists.

> > Eventually,

> > > I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > put on a steroid cream that seemed to at least bring me

some

> > > > relief.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Coincidentally, I stopped having my periods at the same

time

> > > that

> > > > > > this problem began. Finally, someone did bloodwork that

> > showed

> > > I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > menopausal. After lingering around this group for awhile,

I

> > > > > decided

> > > > > > to try Estriol cream. At the same time, I had been put on

> > > > > > Amoxicillin for Bronchitis. Much to my surpise, the

> > > > > itching/burning

> > > > > > completely went away! It was gone for an entire 2 wks.

> > Prior

> > > to

> > > > > > this it was there everyday. I assumed the improvement was

> > from

> > > > the

> > > > > > Estriol, but it returned about a week after stopping the

> > > > > > Amoxicillin. I keep using the Estriol and it doesn't seem

as

> > > > > though

> > > > > > it's helping. :-( It is still better, as I don't have to

use

> > > the

> > > > > > steroid cream, but it's still a little bit itchy. Now I'm

> > not

> > > > sure

> > > > > > if I have some rare infection that the Amoxicillin

helped, or

> > I

> > > > > just

> > > > > > need more Estriol? I am at my wits end with this thing!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would really appreciate any thoughts or advice.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST,

> > Thanks for your cooperation! **

> >

> > ***