Vaccines

[Guest guest]

HI EVERYONE,

My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to

get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

*Varicella

*Polio

*Tdap booster

I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

thanks

[Guest guest]

Well educate before you vaccinate...

I have 2 non vaccinated boys and one vaccine injured now has autism...

dont let doctors push you or scare you into getting your kids vaccinated

do a titres test see if you child really needs it..

you can checkout my website have info links to educate yourself..

www.thepuzzleplace.com

Thank you,

www.thepuzzleplace.com

Subject: VaccinesTo: sList Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 2:35 PM

HI EVERYONE,My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)*Varicella*Polio*Tdap boosterI'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.thanks

[Guest guest]

I say educate yourself and go with you gut. That's what I did. My son is vaccinated Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:15:23 -0700 (PDT)To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Vaccines Well educate before you vaccinate... I have 2 non vaccinated boys and one vaccine injured now has autism...dont let doctors push you or scare you into getting your kids vaccinateddo a titres test see if you child really needs it.. you can checkout my website have info links to educate yourself.. www.thepuzzleplace.com Thank you, www.thepuzzleplace.com --- Subject: VaccinesTo: sList Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 2:35 PM HI EVERYONE,My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)*Varicella*Polio*Tdap boosterI'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.thanks

[Guest guest]

Your son does not " NEED to HAVE " any vaccines.

Take a look here:

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm

Then ask your Dr if he will personally take financial responibility if your son

has an adverse reaction.

Steve Moyer

>

> HI EVERYONE,

> My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me

to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

> *MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

> *Varicella

> *Polio

> *Tdap booster

> I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

> thanks

>

[Guest guest]

I have a permanent waiver for all my children now. Not sure if you saw previous regression I would not move forward unless you use single dose with out preservatives but MMR seems to be the real culprit. I was educated to later for my child who was very effected by her 18 month shots and is still non verbal to this day with complex seizures as well.Good luck and you have to be comfortable with this for your childrens safety.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: sList Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:35:41 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Vaccines HI EVERYONE,My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)*Varicella*Polio*Tdap boosterI'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.thanks

[Guest guest]

I can understand your concerns completely and I held back vaccines from my kids too, who are both autistic.My 11 year old son was getting repetitive sinus and ear infections and occasional pneumonia and could rarely recover from a cold or the flu without antibiotics.

A hospital visit for other problems, revealed that his pneumococcal titres were very low and they suggested a vaccine to boost his immunity against this type of bacteria.Before giving him the vaccine, I researched it and made sure that it did not contain, thimerosal, the mercury derived preservative.  Although thimerosal was removed from the majority of vaccines in the early 2000's, it is still being used in some, such as the H1N1 vaccine, I believe.

Since my son had the vaccine, his health has improved enormously and he has had a couple of colds and managed to recover without any medication.I think you need to get him tested as Ellen suggested and then make your decision based on the results.  The vaccines may not be necessary.

I hope this helps.Caroline

 

HI EVERYONE,

My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

*Varicella

*Polio

*Tdap booster

I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

thanks

[Guest guest]

Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best for our kids:If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child does not have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of continuing not to get them for your kids?Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: autisticangels@...Sender: sList Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:07:31 +0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Vaccines I have a permanent waiver for all my children now. Not sure if you saw previous regression I would not move forward unless you use single dose with out preservatives but MMR seems to be the real culprit. I was educated to later for my child who was very effected by her 18 month shots and is still non verbal to this day with complex seizures as well.Good luck and you have to be comfortable with this for your childrens safety.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: sList Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:35:41 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Vaccines HI EVERYONE,My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)*Varicella*Polio*Tdap boosterI'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.thanks

[Guest guest]

I can't tell from your post if your son has autism or other

health problems. Few will tell you not to vaccinate but will tell you to do it

when it is needed. By the time the child leaves the hospital after birth they

will have given him a several vaccinations. I don't know of any studies that

have dealt with all these shots being given at the same time and at such an

early age.. It is done out of convenience and not out of need. You always have

to weigh what is more important since children without the proper vaccinations

may develop what they are meant to prevent.

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Of monicagomez1954

Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:36 PM

To: sList

Subject: Vaccines

HI EVERYONE,

My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me

to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

*Varicella

*Polio

*Tdap booster

I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

thanks

[Guest guest]

My reason to stop moving forward with his schedule is the prospect that if vaccines contributed in ANY way to my son's diagnosis, then I'd be taking a risk in continuing to administer vaccines and that he may regress and/or develop additional symptoms. It's not a risk I'm willing to take at this time. I heard of a 16 year old that was "recovered" using biomedical and other interventions. He visited his grandparents farm one summer and completely regressed as a result of being exposed to the pesticides on the farm. He stopped speaking and began to engage in self-stimulatory behaviors as he had in the past. I heard this from a doctor who had this child as his patient.That would be my guess as to why parents choose to forgo the remaining schedule. Sent from my iPhone

Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best for our kids:If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child does not have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of continuing not to get them for your kids?Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: autisticangels@...

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I have a permanent waiver for all my children now. Not sure if you saw previous regression I would not move forward unless you use single dose with out preservatives but MMR seems to be the real culprit. I was educated to later for my child who was very effected by her 18 month shots and is still non verbal to this day with complex seizures as well.Good luck and you have to be comfortable with this for your childrens safety.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Sender: sList

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:35:41 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList

Subject: Vaccines

HI EVERYONE,

My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

*Varicella

*Polio

*Tdap booster

I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

thanks

[Guest guest]

Perhaps someone can tell me if the beginning of autism has ever

started at the age of 8.

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Of Ellen Blackburn

Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:15 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Vaccines

Well educate before you vaccinate...

I have 2 non vaccinated boys and one vaccine injured now

has autism...

dont let doctors push you or scare you into getting your

kids vaccinated

do a titres test see if you child really needs it..

you can checkout my website have info links to educate

yourself..

www.thepuzzleplace.com

Thank

you,

www.thepuzzleplace.com

Subject: Vaccines

To: sList

Date: Friday, September 17, 2010, 2:35 PM

HI EVERYONE,

My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me

to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

*Varicella

*Polio

*Tdap booster

I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

thanks

[Guest guest]

Because you can't predict how kids will react..things can always get more complicated for these kids than they already are especially if they have an underlying, undiagnosed condition.Just my two cents...Sent from my iPhone

Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best for our kids:If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child does not have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of continuing not to get them for your kids?Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: autisticangels@...

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:07:31 +0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList

Subject: Re: Vaccines

I have a permanent waiver for all my children now. Not sure if you saw previous regression I would not move forward unless you use single dose with out preservatives but MMR seems to be the real culprit. I was educated to later for my child who was very effected by her 18 month shots and is still non verbal to this day with complex seizures as well.Good luck and you have to be comfortable with this for your childrens safety.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:35:41 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList

Subject: Vaccines

HI EVERYONE,

My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

*Varicella

*Polio

*Tdap booster

I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

thanks

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Because one of the theories of autism is an autoimmune/inflammatory

process. Any challenge to the immune system is therefore an unknown

and may make it worse

As an analogy, if the child already has asthma, what is the point of

continuing to not smoke around him?

Our story

I saw my son (always non-neurotypical) change profoundly after his

preschool vaccines. I assumed it was the thimerosal component and

avoided having him vaccinated after that. We chelated him and he

improved. We did DAN and he improved. We did meds, diets, a lot of

prescriptions and alternative medicine and it all helped, slowly

gaining ground a bit at a time. Go to age 13, and he cut his thumb

through the joint--tetanus was of course not up to date. ER wants to

vaccinate. I chose to risk the vaccine and immediately chelate, so it

would keep the thimerosal from hurting him (there was about an hour

between the shot and the first dose of DMSA). Well, his neurology

deteriorated profoundly within days. We held on for a month of really

severe behavior, then his psychiatrist ended up having to double--yes

double one of his meds and increase another because of the

exacerbation. Took 2 years to get back to where we had been pre

tetanus. Wasn't the thimerosal that time. Or maybe at age 4 it was

the thimerosal and the increased activity of his immune system

combined, and we just stopped part of the problem but not the rest

this time.

I do not remember a bad reaction to the primary series when he was a

baby. It might have been there, and not noticeable to me, just

showing up later, or the repeated exposure of the secondary

vaccination worsened his immune response to a noxious stimulus (the

immune system responds stronger to something it has seen before and

not liked).

The bottom line is every story is different. No one can tell you how

it will work out for your child. He may be fine. He may not be. You

might avoid the vaccine and have your child contract the actual

disease and have a bad reaction. Certainly with autism already a

problem, you know the neurology and immune system of your child is not

working right, so there is increased risk with vaccination. You do

the research, make your choices and bear the consequences.

I suggest if you are going to do the vaccinations, get one vaccine at

a time, wait a month or more between, never get a vaccine when the

child is ill and if you can work with a homeopath to mitigate problems.

For my child, anyone approaching him with a vaccine will be seen as

threatening imminent bodily harm and dealt with accordingly. I am

improving his immune system with homeopathy. I wish I had known about

homeopathic " vaccinations " when he was a baby. I made my choices and

bear the consequences.

Good luck

> Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best

> for our kids:

>

> If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child

> does not have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of

> continuing not to get them for your kids?

>

> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

>

> From: autisticangels@...

> Sender: sList

> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:07:31 +0000

> To: <sList >

> ReplyTo: sList

> Subject: Re: Vaccines

>

>

> I have a permanent waiver for all my children now. Not sure if you

> saw previous regression I would not move forward unless you use

> single dose with out preservatives but MMR seems to be the real

> culprit.

>

> I was educated to later for my child who was very effected by her 18

> month shots and is still non verbal to this day with complex

> seizures as well.

>

> Good luck and you have to be comfortable with this for your

> childrens safety.

>

>

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

> Sender: sList

> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:35:41 -0000

> To: <sList >

> ReplyTo: sList

> Subject: Vaccines

>

>

> HI EVERYONE,

> My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr

> suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines

> he needs to have:

> *MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

> *Varicella

> *Polio

> *Tdap booster

> I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please

> help.

> thanks

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

Of the $2,000,000,000.00+ awarded in vaccine court and the 1,000+ deaths

attributed to vaccine adverse reactions, NONE of them were for autism.

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm

The medical community does no screening for adverse reactions before

vaccinating. For instance, many vaccines conatin eggs. What if your child is

allergic? There are a variety of other additives beside the active ingredients

that may also be allergens, just as an example of lack of screening.

There have been no long term studies of the safety of multi-vaccines

administered with other vaccines. In fact when the study of the MMR with chicken

pox added was trialed the study had to be stopped because of the unacceptable

number of adverse reactions.

An example of a schedule gone slightly astray is the HepB vaccine. For many

years this was given to newborns before they left the hospital. Hep B is

typically transmitted via sex or dirty needles and is number 1 in single vaccine

adverse reactions and number 3 after DTP and MMR multi vaccines. Where was the

common sense in this policy?

A close look at the above link to the US Dept of Health site, the CDC's own site

and the vaccine manufacturer's websites to read the package inserts is enough to

give one pause about following the schedule blindly, or in some cases giving

vaccines at all.

Steve Moyer

>

> Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best for our

kids:

>

> If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child does not

have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of continuing not to

get them for your kids?

> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

>

> Vaccines

>

> HI EVERYONE,

> My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me

to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

> *MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

> *Varicella

> *Polio

> *Tdap booster

> I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

> thanks

>

[Guest guest]

What vaccine did you get for him that improved his health? I am very interested.Thanks!Sent from my iPhone

I can understand your concerns completely and I held back vaccines from my kids too, who are both autistic.My 11 year old son was getting repetitive sinus and ear infections and occasional pneumonia and could rarely recover from a cold or the flu without antibiotics.

A hospital visit for other problems, revealed that his pneumococcal titres were very low and they suggested a vaccine to boost his immunity against this type of bacteria.Before giving him the vaccine, I researched it and made sure that it did not contain, thimerosal, the mercury derived preservative. Although thimerosal was removed from the majority of vaccines in the early 2000's, it is still being used in some, such as the H1N1 vaccine, I believe.

Since my son had the vaccine, his health has improved enormously and he has had a couple of colds and managed to recover without any medication.I think you need to get him tested as Ellen suggested and then make your decision based on the results. The vaccines may not be necessary.

I hope this helps.Caroline

HI EVERYONE,

My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

*Varicella

*Polio

*Tdap booster

I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

thanks

[Guest guest]

Steve,Like I said in my question.....besides those who have known medical issues with the vaccines. I was asking the parents of those kids, who already have autism (or on the spectrum) why aren't you getting them? I'm NOT judging I'm just asking. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:55:06 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Vaccines Hello ,Of the $2,000,000,000.00+ awarded in vaccine court and the 1,000+ deaths attributed to vaccine adverse reactions, NONE of them were for autism.http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htmThe medical community does no screening for adverse reactions before vaccinating. For instance, many vaccines conatin eggs. What if your child is allergic? There are a variety of other additives beside the active ingredients that may also be allergens, just as an example of lack of screening. There have been no long term studies of the safety of multi-vaccines administered with other vaccines. In fact when the study of the MMR with chicken pox added was trialed the study had to be stopped because of the unacceptable number of adverse reactions.An example of a schedule gone slightly astray is the HepB vaccine. For many years this was given to newborns before they left the hospital. Hep B is typically transmitted via sex or dirty needles and is number 1 in single vaccine adverse reactions and number 3 after DTP and MMR multi vaccines. Where was the common sense in this policy?A close look at the above link to the US Dept of Health site, the CDC's own site and the vaccine manufacturer's websites to read the package inserts is enough to give one pause about following the schedule blindly, or in some cases giving vaccines at all.Steve Moyer>> Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best for our kids:> > If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child does not have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of continuing not to get them for your kids?> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®> > Vaccines> > HI EVERYONE,> My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:> *MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)> *Varicella> *Polio> *Tdap booster> I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.> thanks>

[Guest guest]

Jana,Improve their health? That makes no sense. Aren't the purpose of vaccines to prevent things. I got them AND YES I'm fully aware the ones I got aren't the same as the one my son gets. You get your animals rabies vaccines (for those who have animals)Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:27:21 -0400To: sList <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Vaccines What vaccine did you get for him that improved his health? I am very interested.Thanks!Sent from my iPhone I can understand your concerns completely and I held back vaccines from my kids too, who are both autistic.My 11 year old son was getting repetitive sinus and ear infections and occasional pneumonia and could rarely recover from a cold or the flu without antibiotics.A hospital visit for other problems, revealed that his pneumococcal titres were very low and they suggested a vaccine to boost his immunity against this type of bacteria.Before giving him the vaccine, I researched it and made sure that it did not contain, thimerosal, the mercury derived preservative. Although thimerosal was removed from the majority of vaccines in the early 2000's, it is still being used in some, such as the H1N1 vaccine, I believe.Since my son had the vaccine, his health has improved enormously and he has had a couple of colds and managed to recover without any medication.I think you need to get him tested as Ellen suggested and then make your decision based on the results. The vaccines may not be necessary.I hope this helps.Caroline HI EVERYONE,My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)*Varicella*Polio*Tdap boosterI'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.thanks

[Guest guest]

Now that's a story that people should know about!

Sorry for all that you and your son have been through.

Thank you for sharing...

Sent from my iPhone

> Because one of the theories of autism is an autoimmune/inflammatory

> process. Any challenge to the immune system is therefore an unknown

> and may make it worse

> As an analogy, if the child already has asthma, what is the point of

> continuing to not smoke around him?

>

> Our story

> I saw my son (always non-neurotypical) change profoundly after his

> preschool vaccines. I assumed it was the thimerosal component and

> avoided having him vaccinated after that. We chelated him and he

> improved. We did DAN and he improved. We did meds, diets, a lot of

> prescriptions and alternative medicine and it all helped, slowly

> gaining ground a bit at a time. Go to age 13, and he cut his thumb

> through the joint--tetanus was of course not up to date. ER wants to

> vaccinate. I chose to risk the vaccine and immediately chelate, so it

> would keep the thimerosal from hurting him (there was about an hour

> between the shot and the first dose of DMSA). Well, his neurology

> deteriorated profoundly within days. We held on for a month of really

> severe behavior, then his psychiatrist ended up having to double--yes

> double one of his meds and increase another because of the

> exacerbation. Took 2 years to get back to where we had been pre

> tetanus. Wasn't the thimerosal that time. Or maybe at age 4 it was

> the thimerosal and the increased activity of his immune system

> combined, and we just stopped part of the problem but not the rest

> this time.

> I do not remember a bad reaction to the primary series when he was a

> baby. It might have been there, and not noticeable to me, just

> showing up later, or the repeated exposure of the secondary

> vaccination worsened his immune response to a noxious stimulus (the

> immune system responds stronger to something it has seen before and

> not liked).

> The bottom line is every story is different. No one can tell you how

> it will work out for your child. He may be fine. He may not be. You

> might avoid the vaccine and have your child contract the actual

> disease and have a bad reaction. Certainly with autism already a

> problem, you know the neurology and immune system of your child is not

> working right, so there is increased risk with vaccination. You do

> the research, make your choices and bear the consequences.

> I suggest if you are going to do the vaccinations, get one vaccine at

> a time, wait a month or more between, never get a vaccine when the

> child is ill and if you can work with a homeopath to mitigate problems.

> For my child, anyone approaching him with a vaccine will be seen as

> threatening imminent bodily harm and dealt with accordingly. I am

> improving his immune system with homeopathy. I wish I had known about

> homeopathic " vaccinations " when he was a baby. I made my choices and

> bear the consequences.

> Good luck

>

>

>

>> Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best

>> for our kids:

>>

>> If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child

>> does not have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of

>> continuing not to get them for your kids?

>>

>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

>>

>> From: autisticangels@...

>> Sender: sList

>> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:07:31 +0000

>> To: <sList >

>> ReplyTo: sList

>> Subject: Re: Vaccines

>>

>>

>> I have a permanent waiver for all my children now. Not sure if you

>> saw previous regression I would not move forward unless you use

>> single dose with out preservatives but MMR seems to be the real

>> culprit.

>>

>> I was educated to later for my child who was very effected by her 18

>> month shots and is still non verbal to this day with complex

>> seizures as well.

>>

>> Good luck and you have to be comfortable with this for your

>> childrens safety.

>>

>>

>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>>

>>

>> Sender: sList

>> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:35:41 -0000

>> To: <sList >

>> ReplyTo: sList

>> Subject: Vaccines

>>

>>

>> HI EVERYONE,

>> My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr

>> suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines

>> he needs to have:

>> *MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

>> *Varicella

>> *Polio

>> *Tdap booster

>> I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please

>> help.

>> thanks

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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The other day I went to donate blood. They asked me to write down the names of the countries I have visited within the last 12 months. When I mentioned the D.R. (the Dominican Republic), I was told that I could not donate blood because there is malaria in the D.R. I did not know that.

My husband took the daily malaria pill for a whole year when he was based in Congo. I used to laugh of him and call him a sissy. That was before my childhood friend died of complications related to malaria she got when working as a missionary in Zaire.

Do you or your family travel to countries where they still struggle with dangerous diseases? Do your kids hang out with kids who are not vaccinated? What are the chances you kid will get mumps or rubella, for example, when he only hangs out with kids who already are vaccinated?

Children do not get autism at the age of 8, of course, and this is a very, very, very good point. The vaccines are offered when the kids are very young not because it is convenient, but because the baby's immunesystem is low. A fever spikes fast, and seizures and coma can happen within very little time. Brain damage and death could be the result. As the children grow older they become stronger. If the child surives the first couple of years, he will most likely survive some of the most common childhood illnesses should he get that when he is older. My brother, sister and myself had measels, mumps and rubella and we had no complications, just a couple of days off from school. But, we were not infants. We were in all in elementary school ( none of us were vaccinated). The WHO (the World Health Organization) has worked hard globally to ensure that babies survive their first year. Immunization has been and continues to

be very important.

Children do not recover from autism because of some "bio" treatment, and the autism does not "come back" because they spent a summer on a farm. I grew up on a farm and I spend every summer there. It is the perfect place for any kid.

Liz

To: "sList " <sList >Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 5:24:41 PMSubject: Re: Vaccines

My reason to stop moving forward with his schedule is the prospect that if vaccines contributed in ANY way to my son's diagnosis, then I'd be taking a risk in continuing to administer vaccines and that he may regress and/or develop additional symptoms. It's not a risk I'm willing to take at this time.

I heard of a 16 year old that was "recovered" using biomedical and other interventions. He visited his grandparents farm one summer and completely regressed as a result of being exposed to the pesticides on the farm. He stopped speaking and began to engage in self-stimulatory behaviors as he had in the past. I heard this from a doctor who had this child as his patient.

That would be my guess as to why parents choose to forgo the remaining schedule. Sent from my iPhone

Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best for our kids:If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child does not have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of continuing not to get them for your kids?

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From: autisticangels@...

Sender: sList

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:07:31 +0000

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I have a permanent waiver for all my children now. Not sure if you saw previous regression I would not move forward unless you use single dose with out preservatives but MMR seems to be the real culprit. I was educated to later for my child who was very effected by her 18 month shots and is still non verbal to this day with complex seizures as well.Good luck and you have to be comfortable with this for your childrens safety.

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:35:41 -0000

To: <sList >

ReplyTo: sList

Subject: Vaccines

HI EVERYONE,My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)*Varicella*Polio*Tdap boosterI'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.thanks

[Guest guest]

Jana,He had the " Pneumovax 23. "  After receiving the vaccine, his titers were rechecked and found to be normal.  They did not know how he would react to the vaccine, and had it not been favorable, he could have been a candidate for IVIG to boost his immunity.  I am happy for now that we did not have to proceed further.

I am amazed at how he is physically so much better (and happier .  This, I believe, is not only due to the vaccine but also the treatment of his ulcers, which could have gone undiagnosed for some time; my youngest of two is unable to verbalize his discomfort etc.

For those of our kids who have predominant health issues on top of everything else, it is a rough road trying to get to the bottom of the underlying cause/s.  It has taken me 3 1/2 years of constant trial and error, biomedical treatments (which did not work for him), and hospitalization when things got really bad.  My 11 year old has had a feeding disorder since he was 7 months but in the past 6 months he has totally come off the formula he relied upon for nutrition and is now eating like a horse and chewing and swallowing normally.  He has put on 10 lbs in weight!  He has also learned to say " Publix " when he gets hungry!

The reason for me giving all this additional info., is for other parents out there who are struggling with the same.  At one point I thought " this is it, we are never going to get to the bottom of this, " and may be we haven't entirely, but things have improved by 100% in my eyes over the past 6 months.  As parents of these special kids, faith and hope is what we hang on to.

Feel free to ask anything else.Caroline

 

What vaccine did you get for him that improved his health?  I am very interested.Thanks!Sent from my iPhone

 

I can understand your concerns completely and I held back vaccines from my kids too, who are both autistic.My 11 year old son was getting repetitive sinus and ear infections and occasional pneumonia and could rarely recover from a cold or the flu without antibiotics.

A hospital visit for other problems, revealed that his pneumococcal titres were very low and they suggested a vaccine to boost his immunity against this type of bacteria.Before giving him the vaccine, I researched it and made sure that it did not contain, thimerosal, the mercury derived preservative.  Although thimerosal was removed from the majority of vaccines in the early 2000's, it is still being used in some, such as the H1N1 vaccine, I believe.

Since my son had the vaccine, his health has improved enormously and he has had a couple of colds and managed to recover without any medication.I think you need to get him tested as Ellen suggested and then make your decision based on the results.  The vaccines may not be necessary.

I hope this helps.Caroline

 

HI EVERYONE,

My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

*Varicella

*Polio

*Tdap booster

I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

thanks

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

I was answering your question. My son has not been vaccinated since diagnosis 10

years ago. In researching vaccines and the schedule at that time I concluded

that any of the remaining vaccines he might get were not worth the risk given

the standard list of and chance of adverse reactions that have nothing to do

with autism.

The awards by the vaccine court I linked to do not include settlements or any

adverse reaction that was not taken to the court. Given that your family

pediatrician will never consider that anything beyond a mild fever and redness

at the injection site is the result of a vaccination and that we are talking

about big money and federal court the cases that even go to vaccine court

account for a very small number of actual serious adverse reactions.

Vaccines are not the benign saviors the CDC would have you think. They are

designed to aggrevate the immune system of very small children with no screening

for potential adverse reactions. This serious assault on an infants immune

system is taken very lightly by the medical community and with good reason, they

have no liability.

There is a very good reason vaccine court exists and that DR's and vaccine

manufacturers have no liabilty for adverse reactions.

Steve Moyer

> >

> > Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best for our

kids:

> >

> > If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child does not

have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of continuing not to

get them for your kids?

> > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

> >

> > Vaccines

> >

> > HI EVERYONE,

> > My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested

me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

> > *MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

> > *Varicella

> > *Polio

> > *Tdap booster

> > I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

> > thanks

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The doctor who treated the teenager was Dr. Rossignol. You can call him to confirm the story.

The office has treated thousands of kids with autism and have medical records and documentation to support many of their patients no longer qualify for a diagnosis of autism.

From: Lizzie Berg

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:57 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Vaccines

The other day I went to donate blood. They asked me to write down the names of the countries I have visited within the last 12 months. When I mentioned the D.R. (the Dominican Republic), I was told that I could not donate blood because there is malaria in the D.R. I did not know that.

My husband took the daily malaria pill for a whole year when he was based in Congo. I used to laugh of him and call him a sissy. That was before my childhood friend died of complications related to malaria she got when working as a missionary in Zaire.

Do you or your family travel to countries where they still struggle with dangerous diseases? Do your kids hang out with kids who are not vaccinated? What are the chances you kid will get mumps or rubella, for example, when he only hangs out with kids who already are vaccinated?

Children do not get autism at the age of 8, of course, and this is a very, very, very good point. The vaccines are offered when the kids are very young not because it is convenient, but because the baby's immunesystem is low. A fever spikes fast, and seizures and coma can happen within very little time. Brain damage and death could be the result. As the children grow older they become stronger. If the child surives the first couple of years, he will most likely survive some of the most common childhood illnesses should he get that when he is older. My brother, sister and myself had measels, mumps and rubella and we had no complications, just a couple of days off from school. But, we were not infants. We were in all in elementary school ( none of us were vaccinated). The WHO (the World Health Organization) has worked hard globally to ensure that babies survive their first year. Immunization has been and continues to be very important.

Children do not recover from autism because of some "bio" treatment, and the autism does not "come back" because they spent a summer on a farm. I grew up on a farm and I spend every summer there. It is the perfect place for any kid.

Liz

To: "sList " <sList >Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 5:24:41 PMSubject: Re: Vaccines

My reason to stop moving forward with his schedule is the prospect that if vaccines contributed in ANY way to my son's diagnosis, then I'd be taking a risk in continuing to administer vaccines and that he may regress and/or develop additional symptoms. It's not a risk I'm willing to take at this time.

I heard of a 16 year old that was "recovered" using biomedical and other interventions. He visited his grandparents farm one summer and completely regressed as a result of being exposed to the pesticides on the farm. He stopped speaking and began to engage in self-stimulatory behaviors as he had in the past. I heard this from a doctor who had this child as his patient.

That would be my guess as to why parents choose to forgo the remaining schedule. Sent from my iPhone

Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best for our kids:If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child does not have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of continuing not to get them for your kids?

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From: autisticangels@...

Sender: sList

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:07:31 +0000

To: <sList >

ReplyTo: sList

Subject: Re: Vaccines

I have a permanent waiver for all my children now. Not sure if you saw previous regression I would not move forward unless you use single dose with out preservatives but MMR seems to be the real culprit. I was educated to later for my child who was very effected by her 18 month shots and is still non verbal to this day with complex seizures as well.Good luck and you have to be comfortable with this for your childrens safety.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Sender: sList

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:35:41 -0000

To: <sList >

ReplyTo: sList

Subject: Vaccines

HI EVERYONE,My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)*Varicella*Polio*Tdap boosterI'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.thanks

[Guest guest]

The idea of a vaccine to " improve health " can make total sense.  You give vaccines to protect against certain diseases, therefore, giving a vaccine to a child whose titers are low with regard to his resistance against a particular bacteria strain, will protect him from that bacteria (boost his immunity against it), which will in turn " improve his health. "  My son is living proof of this.  The timing of the vaccine, the retest of his titers and the fact that I have not since had to give him antibiotics, tells me that it worked.  

 

Jana,Improve their health? That makes no sense. Aren't the purpose of vaccines to prevent things. I got them AND YES I'm fully aware the ones I got aren't the same as the one my son gets. You get your animals rabies vaccines (for those who have animals)

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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:27:21 -0400To: sList <sList >

ReplyTo: sList

Subject: Re: Vaccines

 

What vaccine did you get for him that improved his health?  I am very interested.Thanks!Sent from my iPhone

 

I can understand your concerns completely and I held back vaccines from my kids too, who are both autistic.My 11 year old son was getting repetitive sinus and ear infections and occasional pneumonia and could rarely recover from a cold or the flu without antibiotics.

A hospital visit for other problems, revealed that his pneumococcal titres were very low and they suggested a vaccine to boost his immunity against this type of bacteria.Before giving him the vaccine, I researched it and made sure that it did not contain, thimerosal, the mercury derived preservative.  Although thimerosal was removed from the majority of vaccines in the early 2000's, it is still being used in some, such as the H1N1 vaccine, I believe.

Since my son had the vaccine, his health has improved enormously and he has had a couple of colds and managed to recover without any medication.I think you need to get him tested as Ellen suggested and then make your decision based on the results.  The vaccines may not be necessary.

I hope this helps.Caroline

 

HI EVERYONE,

My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:

*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)

*Varicella

*Polio

*Tdap booster

I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.

thanks

[Guest guest]

I have my own veiws on vaccinations, and I am not part of this group to get into heated discussions. We are here to offer ou opinions, but don't compare vaccinating our children to animals...which I don't do either.

Tara Ramsey

(561)460-2074

Thirty-One Consultant

www.mythirtyone.com/tramsey---

Subject: Re: VaccinesTo: sList Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 5:11 PM

Jana,Improve their health? That makes no sense. Aren't the purpose of vaccines to prevent things. I got them AND YES I'm fully aware the ones I got aren't the same as the one my son gets. You get your animals rabies vaccines (for those who have animals)

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Sender: sList

Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:27:21 -0400

To: sList <sList >

ReplyTo: sList

Subject: Re: Vaccines

What vaccine did you get for him that improved his health? I am very interested.

Thanks!Sent from my iPhone

I can understand your concerns completely and I held back vaccines from my kids too, who are both autistic.

My 11 year old son was getting repetitive sinus and ear infections and occasional pneumonia and could rarely recover from a cold or the flu without antibiotics.

A hospital visit for other problems, revealed that his pneumococcal titres were very low and they suggested a vaccine to boost his immunity against this type of bacteria.

Before giving him the vaccine, I researched it and made sure that it did not contain, thimerosal, the mercury derived preservative. Although thimerosal was removed from the majority of vaccines in the early 2000's, it is still being used in some, such as the H1N1 vaccine, I believe.

Since my son had the vaccine, his health has improved enormously and he has had a couple of colds and managed to recover without any medication.

I think you need to get him tested as Ellen suggested and then make your decision based on the results. The vaccines may not be necessary.

I hope this helps.

Caroline

HI EVERYONE,My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)*Varicella*Polio*Tdap boosterI'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.thanks

[Guest guest]

I didn't mean it like that. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:54:06 -0700 (PDT)To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Vaccines I have my own veiws on vaccinations, and I am not part of this group to get into heated discussions. We are here to offer ou opinions, but don't compare vaccinating our children to animals...which I don't do either.Tara Ramsey(561)460-2074Thirty-One Consultantwww.mythirtyone.com/tramsey HI EVERYONE,My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:*MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)*Varicella*Polio*Tdap boosterI'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.thanks

[Guest guest]

Steve,Like I said I'm NOT judging anyone. All of our kids are different and I respect ALL of you for making these difficult choices. As parents I believe we have to do what's right for our kids. I was just curious....nothing more. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:19:07 -0000To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Vaccines Hello ,I was answering your question. My son has not been vaccinated since diagnosis 10 years ago. In researching vaccines and the schedule at that time I concluded that any of the remaining vaccines he might get were not worth the risk given the standard list of and chance of adverse reactions that have nothing to do with autism.The awards by the vaccine court I linked to do not include settlements or any adverse reaction that was not taken to the court. Given that your family pediatrician will never consider that anything beyond a mild fever and redness at the injection site is the result of a vaccination and that we are talking about big money and federal court the cases that even go to vaccine court account for a very small number of actual serious adverse reactions. Vaccines are not the benign saviors the CDC would have you think. They are designed to aggrevate the immune system of very small children with no screening for potential adverse reactions. This serious assault on an infants immune system is taken very lightly by the medical community and with good reason, they have no liability.There is a very good reason vaccine court exists and that DR's and vaccine manufacturers have no liabilty for adverse reactions.Steve Moyer> >> > Here's a question and NOT a judgment since we all are doing the best for our kids:> > > > If your child(ren) already have autism.....and assuming your child does not have a BAD reaction to vaccines.........what's the point of continuing not to get them for your kids?> > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®> > > > Vaccines> > > > HI EVERYONE,> > My son is 8 yrs old and he doesn't have some vaccines and the Dr suggested me to get them for him and here's the list of the vaccines he needs to have:> > *MMR (he already had one MMR at age 1)> > *Varicella> > *Polio> > *Tdap booster> > I'm really scared..and i need opinions from all of you guys, please help.> > thanks> >>