Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 > Another view. I've no desire to get into a flame war over this, but there's more than one view. I know that my family was raised with the concept that forgiveness is like casting the misdeed into the sea - it's supposed to be as if it didn't happen. I remember when I was a kid, saying " Saying 'sorry' doesn't make it better! " It still doesn't. There are issues of psychological abuse that I was just supposed to " forgive and forget " . They keep coming back to bite me on the butt. Forgiveness is not easy, or simple, and in some cases does more to let the offender off the hook than to help the forgiver. The forgiver is left with the guilt that forgiving didn't make it all better so there must be something wrong with him/her. I would remind us that in at one major religion, forgiveness by a deity was accomplished through the deaths of many, many animals, and in another, it was accomplished through a gruesome execution. If that's what it took for a deity to forgive, I think it may be a bit optimistic to think that we, as mere humans, can just blithely cast away harm that has been done to us. Link may contain some sensitive stuff. http://health.yahoo.com/mentalhealth-healthyhabits/must-you-forgive/ pt--Psychology_Today_articles_pto-19990701-000029.html Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 personally, revenge is a much better healer for someone who has hurt you terribly than forgiveness could ever be! That at least is my personal experience on the issue. N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Oh , I'm such a self-guilt person that I've never been able to do anything in revenge. But I've sure dreamed about it a lot. I just wait around quietly until something catches up with them and then I enjoy that. Angie Harley Mama Double-D Carson City, NV; Single, five children (3 at home), 2 dogs, 4 cats, snow skiing, camping, Harley Rider, Lone Wolf, Blue Thong Society/High Sierra Thong Snappers member, LFA Advocate, independent, opinionated, outspoken, and open minded. " It's always something. " ~~~Gilda Radner " While we have the gift of life, it seems to me the only tragedy is to allow part of us to die - whether it is our spirit,our creativity, or our glorious uniqueness. " ~~~Gilda Radner http://360.yahoo.com/lovinglifeinnv http://www.myspace.com/amkg http://doripost.agrato.info/ http://wine-and-chocolate.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=592316375 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LupusSurvivorsU/ http://www.revolutionhealth.com/blogs/angiemg Re: How Resentment Makes a Heart Heavy LINK CONTAINS SENSITIVE STUFF personally, revenge is a much better healer for someone who has hurt you terribly than forgiveness could ever be! That at least is my personal experience on the issue. N. <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I agree with you to some extent . I am going thru some bad family stuff right now and was going to just let it go but she gets away with too much so I have decided to confront her on it all. I shall write it down first so I can cover it all as you tend to forget some things when you are so hurt and angry. Mine is that my sister-in-law does not want my brother and I to see each other. I moved here to be close to him as he requested. I am not allowed in the house or him in mine. No phone contact. I don't even know what I did. Yesterday she said she couldn't control my brother when I was around. do I tell him what is going on. I hate to cause trouble between them but he has told me the marriage is dead. He keeps telling me to hang on as I want to move back home. What to do? Little LINDA --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hi , this may be stupid, but are you kidding here. I just thought it might be a joke. Or do you really get revenge on people? Just curious. If so, what have you done? Might be interesting to know. Marti Mystic wrote: personally, revenge is a much better healer for someone who has hurt you terribly than forgiveness could ever be! That at least is my personal experience on the issue. N. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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