Guest guest Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Does he have difficult behaviors? Is he toilet trained, verbal? How is he academically doing? Many factors to take into consideration. Does he have an IEP and was he placed in gen ed or self-contained? Public schools can usually serve autistic 6 year olds best, but it is not always the case. Write to me privately, if you wish. Ida > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, etc. To: sList Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 4:09:24 PMSubject: autistic/schoolswhat school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 What if your kid is HFA? Is a school with an autistic program necessary?~Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: aes62@...Sender: sList Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:17:56 +0000 (UTC)To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: autistic/schools Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....theyhave the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, etc.To: sList Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 4:09:24 PMSubject: autistic/schoolswhat school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 We live in Palm Beach county and my son goes to The Palm Beach School for Autism.............Excellent School Dawn To: sList Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:17 PMSubject: Re: autistic/schools Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, etc. To: sList Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 4:09:24 PMSubject: autistic/schoolswhat school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 With all due respect, " Nothing beats the public school system " is an inaccurate statement. There are some public schools that provide a very good ESE education for a range of disabilities. There are some that are no better than bad babysitting, and there are some students that just can't be provided an appropriate or even safe education in a public school. The 20,000+ ESE students using the McKay Scholarship certainly don't think so, and some of the private school programs available do things public schools can't or just won't do. It's a shame that there isn't a more uniform ESE education in public schools, I speak from first hand experience as my son has been in 4 public schools plus one that we observed and declined. Steve Moyer > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, etc. > > > > autistic/schools > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Happy Holidays!I am writing from a private school for Autistic children called CasaBlanca Academy in Hollywood. We are the only DIR-certified school in Florida, and the DIR model is something that is not offered in a public setting at this time. The DIR/Floortime model developed by Dr. Stanley Greenspan (which stands for Developmental, Individual-Difference, Relationship-based) is a unique program tailored to the unique challenges and strengths of children with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) and other developmental challenges. The objectives of the DIR®/Floortime™ Model are to build healthy foundations for social, emotional, and intellectual capacities rather than focusing on skills and isolated behaviors.For more information, feel free to contact me at . All the best to you in 2011.Lizzie BicknellCasaBlanca Academy To: sList Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: autistic/schools With all due respect, "Nothing beats the public school system" is an inaccurate statement. There are some public schools that provide a very good ESE education for a range of disabilities. There are some that are no better than bad babysitting, and there are some students that just can't be provided an appropriate or even safe education in a public school. The 20,000+ ESE students using the McKay Scholarship certainly don't think so, and some of the private school programs available do things public schools can't or just won't do. It's a shame that there isn't a more uniform ESE education in public schools, I speak from first hand experience as my son has been in 4 public schools plus one that we observed and declined. Steve Moyer > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, etc. > > > > autistic/schools > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Please refresh my memory...what is HFA? From: lshapir@...To: sList Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:07:31 PMSubject: Re: autistic/schools What if your kid is HFA? Is a school with an autistic program necessary?~ Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T From: aes62@... Sender: sList Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:17:56 +0000 (UTC) To: <sList > ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: autistic/schools Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, etc. To: sList Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 4:09:24 PMSubject: autistic/schoolswhat school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I probably should not have generalized, however, my son is doing very well in his public elementary school, he is HFA and is fully integrated with some assistance, of course. I agree, there are ones better than others. I happen to be near one of the finest. Again, it depends also on the degree of the disability and so many other factors...I had a very hard time having a private school accept him with his dx. To: sList Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:58:18 AMSubject: Re: autistic/schoolsWith all due respect, "Nothing beats the public school system" is an inaccurate statement.There are some public schools that provide a very good ESE education for a range of disabilities. There are some that are no better than bad babysitting, and there are some students that just can't be provided an appropriate or even safe education in a public school.The 20,000+ ESE students using the McKay Scholarship certainly don't think so, and some of the private school programs available do things public schools can't or just won't do.It's a shame that there isn't a more uniform ESE education in public schools, I speak from first hand experience as my son has been in 4 public schools plus one that we observed and declined.Steve Moyer >> > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, etc. > > > > autistic/schools > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 In the public school system parents have the right to legally fight the IEP - the IEP is not a legal document in a private school and they can tell you they "are doing the best they can" and you have NO RECOURSE TO MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE. This reason alone is paramount enough to choose the district. With all due respect, "Nothing beats the public school system" is an inaccurate statement.There are some public schools that provide a very good ESE education for a range of disabilities. There are some that are no better than bad babysitting, and there are some students that just can't be provided an appropriate or even safe education in a public school.The 20,000+ ESE students using the McKay Scholarship certainly don't think so, and some of the private school programs available do things public schools can't or just won't do.It's a shame that there isn't a more uniform ESE education in public schools, I speak from first hand experience as my son has been in 4 public schools plus one that we observed and declined.Steve Moyer>> > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, etc. > > > > autistic/schools > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Sorry and yes absolutely.....they have the all the resources to fulfill to the best potential, an IEP. My son is an example... From: aes62@...To: sList Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:19:53 PMSubject: Re: autistic/schools Please refresh my memory...what is HFA? From: lshapir@...To: sList Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:07:31 PMSubject: Re: autistic/schools What if your kid is HFA? Is a school with an autistic program necessary?~ Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T From: aes62@... Sender: sList Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:17:56 +0000 (UTC) To: <sList > ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: autistic/schools Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, etc. To: sList Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 4:09:24 PMSubject: autistic/schoolswhat school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr old autistic child------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I have visited through work MANY schools in Broward. Some public schools are doing a good job and others... it's frightening. I have seen children thrive in a particular public school and another child in the spectrum too but with different needs do poorly. The later child has been served better in a private school. So, in my opinion, just like each child is different and has different needs, public school may or may not be the best for them. Many parents, I have come to realize, are misinformed and think that their kids with IEPS can not receive any therapies or ESE services in private schools. This is wrong. It depends on whether the child attends a profit or not-for profit school and which therapy we are talking about-- speech (yes), OT/PT (no), indep. functioning and specialized instruction (yes). In fact, Broward Schools have a whole office dedicated to doing just that and the person in charge, Ms. Marziano (not sure spelling?) is certainly a lovely lady. My son attends a public school (A+) and I have done my best to help the school meet my child's needs including successfully getting funding to create (1) A sensory room (which the kids love, and help them focus better when their sensory needs are met!) (2) Create a program to train volunteers to give support to the ASD kids to help them socialize with typical peers during recess time. (That will be put in place next semester.) By the way, this is a point where ALL Broward public schools with a handful of exceptions are failing our kids. Recess time is valuable time for them to learn and practice socialization skills. But the schools do not provide that support. (It breaks my heart to see many kids, my included, sitting by themselves in a corner or aimlessly wondering the playground.) I am very involved in my son's school and that has made a difference. Wherever you enroll your child, you have to be very involved. Having said that, I continue to grow more and more disappointed on Broward schools everyday. I made a post the other day asking if anyone knew a school with the characteristics that I am looking for. The answer--no such school exists, of course. At least not a public one. I am seriously considering changing my son to private school next year because I found a new Mckay school that will provide: 1. Low student teacher ratio with ESE certified teacher, and an aid.(5 kids in the class) 2. Opportunity for inclusion with non-autistic students, and still in a smaller class setting than public school (15 students in the gen ed class). 3. Inclusion time in the gen ed class will be with a teacher with a Master's in Special Ed. 4. The school's music class actually teaches students with autism to play an instrument (guitar, recorder or piano). 5. Students take Martial Arts classes at school twice per week. 6. Elementary, Middle and H.S. Students are taught Spanish as an elective. 7. The school is putting together a life skill class for ASD students. 8. The PE teacher will set up next semester a soccer team that will compete with other schools. 9. The school bought new computers, Boardmaker, and tablets for the students. 10. Because the school is a non-profit school, Broward Schools office for private school services can actually offer services in the private school for qualifying students. For example, one of my clients gets support from an ESE teacher in the Gen Ed class 60 min per week for language arts, 45 min for Math, and 15 min for indep. functioning. He also receives 60 min of speech therapy (after school) at no cost to them. (many people erroneously think that if you attend a private school, you lose the right to getting any therapy or teaching support. THat is not the case.) And the Broward School private school services office created a document with goals that those ESE teachers will be working on. So there will be accountability. 11. Unlike public school, all the ASD students are working toward a GEN ED diploma. 12. The principal has been offering my client's son free tutoring all semester to help him catch up. (Last year he learned very little in public school.) As you see, nothing is black or white. I bet many parents out there whose kids attend public school and are reading this now wish their public school provided that much support and services for the ASD child to succeed! Yet, I would not recommend this school to some of my clients with kids with certain needs that I think, for example, are being met best in the Center School they attend. It all depends on what the child needs, and what the school can offer. By the way, if anyone wants more info on this school, feel fry to email me privately. They just moved to a new building in Sunrise and I have to find out what their new phone number is... Have a nice day everyone! Ida > > > > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > program....they > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > etc. > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > old autistic child > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hello , I respectfully disagree. In the private school sector it is indeed buyer beware, but there are many very good programs out there if you can find a good " match " for your child. The free market gives parents influence with their tuition check, and while there is no binding contract like an IEP there is considerable influence and leeway. For instance if you wanted to supply something or someone like an aide you could possibly do it in a private school, where in a public there would be no way. To say that for every disabled student every classroom and every teacher in every grade in every District were the " best " and better than all private school placements, just because the public schools have an IEP is, I believe, inaccurate. There are 20,000 + McKay Students in Florida who's parents also disagree. Respectfully, Steve Moyer > > > > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > program....they > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > etc. > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > old autistic child > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 So proud of you friend. Thanks for the sharing. Omayra Matamoros, MHSA, JDSend from Mac To: sList Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:33 PM Subject: Re: autistic/schools I have visited through work MANY schools in Broward. Some public schools are doing a good job and others... it's frightening. I have seen children thrive in a particular public school and another child in the spectrum too but with different needs do poorly. The later child has been served better in a private school. So, in my opinion, just like each child is different and has different needs, public school may or may not be the best for them. Many parents, I have come to realize, are misinformed and think that their kids with IEPS can not receive any therapies or ESE services in private schools. This is wrong. It depends on whether the child attends a profit or not-for profit school and which therapy we are talking about-- speech (yes), OT/PT (no), indep. functioning and specialized instruction (yes). In fact, Broward Schools have a whole office dedicated to doing just that and the person in charge, Ms. Marziano (not sure spelling?) is certainly a lovely lady. My son attends a public school (A+) and I have done my best to help the school meet my child's needs including successfully getting funding to create (1) A sensory room (which the kids love, and help them focus better when their sensory needs are met!) (2) Create a program to train volunteers to give support to the ASD kids to help them socialize with typical peers during recess time. (That will be put in place next semester.) By the way, this is a point where ALL Broward public schools with a handful of exceptions are failing our kids. Recess time is valuable time for them to learn and practice socialization skills. But the schools do not provide that support. (It breaks my heart to see many kids, my included, sitting by themselves in a corner or aimlessly wondering the playground.) I am very involved in my son's school and that has made a difference. Wherever you enroll your child, you have to be very involved. Having said that, I continue to grow more and more disappointed on Broward schools everyday. I made a post the other day asking if anyone knew a school with the characteristics that I am looking for. The answer--no such school exists, of course. At least not a public one. I am seriously considering changing my son to private school next year because I found a new Mckay school that will provide: 1. Low student teacher ratio with ESE certified teacher, and an aid.(5 kids in the class) 2. Opportunity for inclusion with non-autistic students, and still in a smaller class setting than public school (15 students in the gen ed class). 3. Inclusion time in the gen ed class will be with a teacher with a Master's in Special Ed. 4. The school's music class actually teaches students with autism to play an instrument (guitar, recorder or piano). 5. Students take Martial Arts classes at school twice per week. 6. Elementary, Middle and H.S. Students are taught Spanish as an elective. 7. The school is putting together a life skill class for ASD students. 8. The PE teacher will set up next semester a soccer team that will compete with other schools. 9. The school bought new computers, Boardmaker, and tablets for the students. 10. Because the school is a non-profit school, Broward Schools office for private school services can actually offer services in the private school for qualifying students. For example, one of my clients gets support from an ESE teacher in the Gen Ed class 60 min per week for language arts, 45 min for Math, and 15 min for indep. functioning. He also receives 60 min of speech therapy (after school) at no cost to them. (many people erroneously think that if you attend a private school, you lose the right to getting any therapy or teaching support. THat is not the case.) And the Broward School private school services office created a document with goals that those ESE teachers will be working on. So there will be accountability. 11. Unlike public school, all the ASD students are working toward a GEN ED diploma. 12. The principal has been offering my client's son free tutoring all semester to help him catch up. (Last year he learned very little in public school.) As you see, nothing is black or white. I bet many parents out there whose kids attend public school and are reading this now wish their public school provided that much support and services for the ASD child to succeed! Yet, I would not recommend this school to some of my clients with kids with certain needs that I think, for example, are being met best in the Center School they attend. It all depends on what the child needs, and what the school can offer. By the way, if anyone wants more info on this school, feel fry to email me privately. They just moved to a new building in Sunrise and I have to find out what their new phone number is... Have a nice day everyone! Ida > > > > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > program....they > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > etc. > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > old autistic child > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Steve: I never indicated that the private school sector is not good. On the contrary there are many good schools but I wasn't addressing that issue, my point is just the fact of making teachers accountable for your child's program. Otherwise, you have no legal recourse. No matter where you go there will be issues you are not entirely happy about some more serious than others.The school district is not without many issues and problems for parents, but when you have a legal avenue it somehow gets your voice heard so you have a leg to stand on. I also never said that the District was the best...what I said was that in a private school a teacher can tell you they are doing the best they can and ultimately you have no recourse to make changes if they don't want to. This is the problem.There is no best in the school district...it's just appropriate that's all you have the legal right to. Many parents find that there children do well in private schools...but in the event that this is not the case, it's very difficult to make changes if you have no recourse and you are stuck. Yes, you are right....there are many McKay students and many happy parents. I'm just pointing out a reality check in the event that there are problems and issues that end up insurmountable there is always a solution with the legal system - it's very powerful available tool if you know how to use it. . Hello ,I respectfully disagree. In the private school sector it is indeed buyer beware, but there are many very good programs out there if you can find a good "match" for your child. The free market gives parents influence with their tuition check, and while there is no binding contract like an IEP there is considerable influence and leeway. For instance if you wanted to supply something or someone like an aide you could possibly do it in a private school, where in a public there would be no way.To say that for every disabled student every classroom and every teacher in every grade in every District were the "best" and better than all private school placements, just because the public schools have an IEP is, I believe, inaccurate.There are 20,000 + McKay Students in Florida who's parents also disagree.Respectfully,Steve Moyer> >> > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > program....they > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > etc. > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > old autistic child > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Hello , We agree, perhaps some of my confusion was between your post and the one by the previous poster, plus your use of the word " paramount " in describing the choice between public and private schools in your opinion. Steve wrote: In the public school system parents have the right to legally fight the IEP This reason alone is paramount enough to choose the district. wrote: Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Yes I see your point but I feel that the legal issue is a paramount one especially if you have a child that doesn't have language or very little. Teaching these children requires a lot of creativity and knowledge to know how to teach them. Even the best of teachers have difficulty presenting non abstract material in such a way so the child can be successful at learning a concept. The easier choice is to give up and say it's beyond their capabilities to learn when in fact it is all about creative teaching. Having the legal system behind you can help you make sure that your child receives FAPE and that might require out of the box teaching, but whatever it takes to get them to read, handwrite, have the ability to learn in a group setting, or whatever, you have to do what you have to do to make that happen. My son is 20 now and I've had many a battle, but if I had allowed them to do what they wanted to do he wouldn't have the skills he has today because they would have put him in a placement that would not have forced the teachers to find a way to teach him these skills. It's challenging, but not impossible. This is why I support the district because I can make them accountable. How you go about doing that is a whole different topic for another day.... Hello ,We agree, perhaps some of my confusion was between your post and the one by the previous poster, plus your use of the word "paramount" in describing the choice between public and private schools in your opinion.Steve wrote:In the public school system parents have the right to legally fight the IEP……This reason alone is paramount enough to choose the district. wrote:Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic program....they have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 This week there have been many great activities at my school. Students have visited other classrooms and gen ed kids have invited their siblings to their class for shows and parties. Students with autism have participated, and friendships are forming left and right. One autism class went from class to class to entertain (singing and showing their artwork) gen ed students and teachers. At a school with 700 students there seem to be no limit to what can be done. This is at a public school Enthusiastic Teacher. To: sList Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:00 AMSubject: Re: Re: autistic/schools Steve: I never indicated that the private school sector is not good. On the contrary there are many good schools but I wasn't addressing that issue, my point is just the fact of making teachers accountable for your child's program. Otherwise, you have no legal recourse. No matter where you go there will be issues you are not entirely happy about some more serious than others.The school district is not without many issues and problems for parents, but when you have a legal avenue it somehow gets your voice heard so you have a leg to stand on. I also never said that the District was the best...what I said was that in a private school a teacher can tell you they are doing the best they can and ultimately you have no recourse to make changes if they don't want to. This is the problem.There is no best in the school district...it's just appropriate that's all you have the legal right to. Many parents find that there children do well in private schools...but in the event that this is not the case, it's very difficult to make changes if you have no recourse and you are stuck. Yes, you are right....there are many McKay students and many happy parents. I'm just pointing out a reality check in the event that there are problems and issues that end up insurmountable there is always a solution with the legal system - it's very powerful available tool if you know how to use it. . Hello ,I respectfully disagree. In the private school sector it is indeed buyer beware, but there are many very good programs out there if you can find a good "match" for your child. The free market gives parents influence with their tuition check, and while there is no binding contract like an IEP there is considerable influence and leeway. For instance if you wanted to supply something or someone like an aide you could possibly do it in a private school, where in a public there would be no way.To say that for every disabled student every classroom and every teacher in every grade in every District were the "best" and better than all private school placements, just because the public schools have an IEP is, I believe, inaccurate.There are 20,000 + McKay Students in Florida who's parents also disagree.Respectfully,Steve Moyer> >> > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > program....they > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > etc. > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > old autistic child > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Wow. Please contact me (off the list) with your school information. Sounds like a great program. Enthusiastic parentSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: sList Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:51:53 -0800 (PST)To: sList <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: autistic/schools This week there have been many great activities at my school. Students have visited other classrooms and gen ed kids have invited their siblings to their class for shows and parties. Students with autism have participated, and friendships are forming left and right. One autism class went from class to class to entertain (singing and showing their artwork) gen ed students and teachers. At a school with 700 students there seem to be no limit to what can be done. This is at a public school Enthusiastic Teacher.To: sList Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:00 AMSubject: Re: Re: autistic/schools Steve:I never indicated that the private school sector is not good. On the contrary there are many good schools but I wasn't addressing that issue, my point is just the fact of making teachers accountable for your child's program. Otherwise, you have no legal recourse. No matter where you go there will be issues you are not entirely happy about some more serious than others.The school district is not without many issues and problems for parents, but when you have a legal avenue it somehow gets your voice heard so you have a leg to stand on. I also never said that the District was the best...what I said was that in a private school a teacher can tell you they are doing the best they can and ultimately you have no recourse to make changes if they don't want to. This is the problem.There is no best in the school district...it's just appropriate that's all you have the legal right to. Many parents find that there childrendo well in private schools...but in the event that this is not the case, it's very difficult to make changes if you have no recourse and you are stuck. Yes, you are right....there are many McKay students and many happy parents. I'm just pointing out a reality check in the event that there are problems and issues that end up insurmountable there is always a solution with the legal system - it's very powerful available tool if you know how to use it. . Hello ,I respectfully disagree. In the private school sector it is indeed buyer beware, but there are many very good programs out there if you can find a good "match" for your child. The free market gives parents influence with their tuition check, and while there is no binding contract like an IEP there is considerable influence and leeway. For instance if you wanted to supply something or someone like an aide you could possibly do it in a private school, where in a public there would be no way.To say that for every disabled student every classroom and every teacher in every grade in every District were the "best" and better than all private school placements, just because the public schools have an IEP is, I believe, inaccurate.There are 20,000 + McKay Students in Florida who's parents also disagree.Respectfully,Steve Moyer> >> > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > program....they > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > etc. > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > old autistic child > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Kudos to enthusiastic teacher! Please clone yourself asap! Other schools in desperate need of some enthusiasm blood injected or at least the school officials do. Thanks to the teachers who try their best and don't judge our children or we parents for the struggles that we have. Give them patience as their budgets get cut again and again and to see what monies they are given to help our kids go to other departments. I usually give out teacher gifts for the holidays. This year though it won't happen because my child doesn't have an enthusiastic teacher or school for that matter and I can't wait to pull my child out. To: "sList " <sList > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: Re: Re: autistic/schools Wow. Please contact me (off the list) with your school information. Sounds like a great program. Enthusiastic parentSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: sList Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:51:53 -0800 (PST)To: sList <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: autistic/schools This week there have been many great activities at my school. Students have visited other classrooms and gen ed kids have invited their siblings to their class for shows and parties. Students with autism have participated, and friendships are forming left and right. One autism class went from class to class to entertain (singing and showing their artwork) gen ed students and teachers. At a school with 700 students there seem to be no limit to what can be done. This is at a public school Enthusiastic Teacher. To: sList Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:00 AMSubject: Re: Re: autistic/schools Steve: I never indicated that the private school sector is not good. On the contrary there are many good schools but I wasn't addressing that issue, my point is just the fact of making teachers accountable for your child's program. Otherwise, you have no legal recourse. No matter where you go there will be issues you are not entirely happy about some more serious than others.The school district is not without many issues and problems for parents, but when you have a legal avenue it somehow gets your voice heard so you have a leg to stand on. I also never said that the District was the best...what I said was that in a private school a teacher can tell you they are doing the best they can and ultimately you have no recourse to make changes if they don't want to. This is the problem.There is no best in the school district...it's just appropriate that's all you have the legal right to. Many parents find that there children do well in private schools...but in the event that this is not the case, it's very difficult to make changes if you have no recourse and you are stuck. Yes, you are right....there are many McKay students and many happy parents. I'm just pointing out a reality check in the event that there are problems and issues that end up insurmountable there is always a solution with the legal system - it's very powerful available tool if you know how to use it. . Hello ,I respectfully disagree. In the private school sector it is indeed buyer beware, but there are many very good programs out there if you can find a good "match" for your child. The free market gives parents influence with their tuition check, and while there is no binding contract like an IEP there is considerable influence and leeway. For instance if you wanted to supply something or someone like an aide you could possibly do it in a private school, where in a public there would be no way.To say that for every disabled student every classroom and every teacher in every grade in every District were the "best" and better than all private school placements, just because the public schools have an IEP is, I believe, inaccurate.There are 20,000 + McKay Students in Florida who's parents also disagree.Respectfully,Steve Moyer> >> > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > program....they > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > etc. > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > old autistic child > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 yes...what school is that? Subject: Re: Re: autistic/schoolsTo: "sList " <sList >Date: Thursday, December 15, 2011, 6:20 PM Kudos to enthusiastic teacher! Please clone yourself asap! Other schools in desperate need of some enthusiasm blood injected or at least the school officials do. Thanks to the teachers who try their best and don't judge our children or we parents for the struggles that we have. Give them patience as their budgets get cut again and again and to see what monies they are given to help our kids go to other departments. I usually give out teacher gifts for the holidays. This year though it won't happen because my child doesn't have an enthusiastic teacher or school for that matter and I can't wait to pull my child out. To: "sList " <sList > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:50 PMSubject: Re: Re: autistic/schools Wow. Please contact me (off the list) with your school information. Sounds like a great program. Enthusiastic parent Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Sender: sList Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:51:53 -0800 (PST) To: sList <sList > ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: autistic/schools This week there have been many great activities at my school. Students have visited other classrooms and gen ed kids have invited their siblings to their class for shows and parties. Students with autism have participated, and friendships are forming left and right. One autism class went from class to class to entertain (singing and showing their artwork) gen ed students and teachers. At a school with 700 students there seem to be no limit to what can be done. This is at a public school Enthusiastic Teacher. To: sList Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:00 AMSubject: Re: Re: autistic/schools Steve: I never indicated that the private school sector is not good. On the contrary there are many good schools but I wasn't addressing that issue, my point is just the fact of making teachers accountable for your child's program. Otherwise, you have no legal recourse. No matter where you go there will be issues you are not entirely happy about some more serious than others.The school district is not without many issues and problems for parents, but when you have a legal avenue it somehow gets your voice heard so you have a leg to stand on. I also never said that the District was the best...what I said was that in a private school a teacher can tell you they are doing the best they can and ultimately you have no recourse to make changes if they don't want to. This is the problem.There is no best in the school district...it's just appropriate that's all you have the legal right to. Many parents find that there children do well in private schools...but in the event that this is not the case, it's very difficult to make changes if you have no recourse and you are stuck. Yes, you are right....there are many McKay students and many happy parents. I'm just pointing out a reality check in the event that there are problems and issues that end up insurmountable there is always a solution with the legal system - it's very powerful available tool if you know how to use it. . Hello ,I respectfully disagree. In the private school sector it is indeed buyer beware, but there are many very good programs out there if you can find a good "match" for your child. The free market gives parents influence with their tuition check, and while there is no binding contract like an IEP there is considerable influence and leeway. For instance if you wanted to supply something or someone like an aide you could possibly do it in a private school, where in a public there would be no way.To say that for every disabled student every classroom and every teacher in every grade in every District were the "best" and better than all private school placements, just because the public schools have an IEP is, I believe, inaccurate.There are 20,000 + McKay Students in Florida who's parents also disagree.Respectfully,Steve Moyer> >> > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > program....they > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > etc. > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > old autistic child > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 IDA, what school are you referring too? I am looking for a school for my son. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > > program....they > > > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > > old autistic child > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I noticed that no school names (good or bad opinions) were mentioned. May I ask which private school provides these things? My daughter is 4 years old. We are looking into different options for her. Boudhuin has an excellent reputation, but it was the worst experience - pulled her after a month. Subject: Re: autistic/schoolsTo: sList Date: Saturday, December 17, 2011, 7:07 AM IDA,what school are you referring too? I am looking for a school for my son.> > >> > > > > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > > program....they > > > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > > old autistic child > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Steve and Theresa: I agree with both of you on schools for kids with ASD. There are good and bad options in both the private and public sectors. Unfortunately, the McKay program has gotten a lot of bad press lately for anecdotal instances of corruption, but there's certainly a chronic history of systemic corruption in the Broward School Bd and more recently in the teacher's union. It's true that a child loses the vast majority of his or her special ed rights in private school - public services for private school disabled students is no more than an after thought, particularly in these tight budgetary times. However, I'm still a big supporter of Mckay because if you can find the right private school for your child it can change his or her life forever. An option that without Mckay most parents could not afford and many of those would be left with nothing other than watching their child slide slowly down the road of failure in public school. The best options are where the most dedicated and experienced teachers are - public or private. Hertog www.MakingSchoolWork.com Hertog, Esq., M.A. Attorney and Founder Making School Work, PL Education Law and Consulting 2000 South Dixie Hwy., Ste. 112 Miami, Florida 33133 ph: fax: www.MakingSchoolWork.com *Licensed to practice law in New York and Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 HI I answered everyone privately. The name of the program is Stepss in Sunrise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing beats the public school system...a school with an autistic > > > program....they > > > > > > > > have the best resources, trained personnel, in school therapies, money, > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > autistic/schools > > > > > > > > what school would provide the best for my son in flordiamhe is a 6 yr > > > old autistic child > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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