Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 My son began the med about a month ago. He takes .o5 every morning and that's it. The school says he is doing well and being focused but by 230 he is beginning the meltdown processs and by 6-8 pm severe hysteria , aggression and tantrums. We have an appt with the neurologist, but just wondering if anyone has had any experiences like this. I think the med needs to be tweeked...any ideas??Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileSender: sList Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:44:01 -0400To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re:Risperal by Wockhardt Limited? or Patriot? Is your son verbal? Is he able to talk to you about why he dislikes school? I have to disagree with you about the fact that Most kids hating school, I think it's in fact the opposite. If he's having a great deal of anxiety each morning I would explore more of why that could be. Is he being bullied? Is there something specific he is afraid of? It is not often at all that my daughter says she doesn't want to go to school, even when she's sick, even my typical daughter has never tried to get out of going. A child can take Adderall and Risperdal together, but Addreal (or any stimulat ADD medication) is going to effect his appitite, it is the single most common side effect of the medication. For some children it fades off a bit and they do eat lunch and dinner, but from all the parents I've spoken to (two of my girls have ADHD) even the ones who felt they're children's appitite wasn't effected for long, found that it was when they would take a break for the weekend or for school holidays etc. It seems as if they don't stop eating all day compared to how they ate when taking the medication.There is a non-stimulat medication for ADHD/ADD, Strattera, however it takes longer to see any results because the medication has to build up in their system and then you have to give it every day too, unlike the stimulants that only need to be taken when there is a need to have them slow down and focus (many parents choose not to give on the weekends or other school breaks) Something else to consider if his anxiety is really bad, is that a stimulant medication can actually cause increased anxiety. While common it's not as common as the appitite effect, but for someone who already struggles with anxiety it may not be a great choice. Those who I've spoken with who saw increased anxiety found that they could get rid of that by reducing the dose, however it often brought it to a point where it wasn't effective for the attention and focus, so kinda defeating the purpose in taking it. I'm not saying you shouldn't try to find a medication that works for your child, my child is one that must have it, we've tried behavior modification alone and we've tried eliminating common suspects such as food dyes, sugar etc. and her ADHD is severe, she is already delayed due to seizures that has set her back and the ADHD makes it impossible for her to sit and learn even for a few seconds at a time. Without her medication she is like the energizer bunny on speed! No way the teachers can get her to get any work done or absorb any information when she's constantly going like that. But with the medication she is still a bit hyper and impulsive, but she at least has the capability to sit and do some work with some redirection and reminders to stay on task etc. Just wanted to let you know that it could be a long road and many trips to the dr. before finding the best fit for your child. Of course you may luck out and hit it quickly like we did for my older daughter too, but it seems that the more issues that need to be worked through the harder it can be. Good Luck!Theresa PS. You may find that his anxiety about going to school fades if you find a good ADHD medication too. Sometimes that anxiety is due to the fact that they know they are going to be expected to do something that is just not possible for them and based on what results that's gotten him in the past he may not like that... Such as if the teacher is constantly yelling at him to do his work, or if the other kids don't like him because he's not able to sit still.I'm In a group like this for parents of kids with ADHD, and I've lost count on the number of parents who have joined and were afraid of starting their child on medication only to have the child come home after the first day or so and tell them " Mom/Dad! I'm not dumb! " or " Mom, I had a great time at school today " They really have no understanding about why they can't sit still or pay attention and don't realize they aren't until they are actually able to. To: sList Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 4:01:01 PMSubject: Risperal by Wockhardt Limited? or Patriot? My son takes risperdone since he was 3 yrs old for his Behavior issues. He’s 8 yrs old 52 lbs and never saw any difference and he’s very skinny and the medicine doesn’t help to focus and he’s very active and sometimes he won’t stop running but he's a happy kid. Dr just increased the dose about 8 months ago and he’s taking 2mg per day, 1 in the morning and 1 at night but still don’t see any progress and I’m going to see the Neuro on Nov 9th Can anyone suggest any other medication to help focus and to slow down? or can he take Rispordone and adderall at the same time? I need a medication that won’t affect the appetite, he’s a good eater. Also he has a lot of anxiety in the morning because he knows the Bus is coming and he doesn’t want to go to school…well who want to go to school?? Most kids hate school…please I need some advice. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 HiMy son started Risperidone (generic of Risperdal) about 6 weeks ago. He started on .5ml (is that what your son is on? you said .05??) once in the morning and once at night. His behavior actually worsened at first, having meltdowns that he would not normally have, and his neurologist upped the dose to .75ml twice a day. This has worked wonderfully for him so far. Yes, you need to talk to your neurologist. Instead of waiting for the appointment, why not call? Hope this helps.Caroline My son began the med about a month ago. He takes .o5 every morning and that's it. The school says he is doing well and being focused but by 230 he is beginning the meltdown processs and by 6-8 pm severe hysteria , aggression and tantrums. We have an appt with the neurologist, but just wondering if anyone has had any experiences like this. I think the med needs to be tweeked...any ideas?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Sender: sList Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:44:01 -0400To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re:Risperal by Wockhardt Limited? or Patriot? Is your son verbal? Is he able to talk to you about why he dislikes school? I have to disagree with you about the fact that Most kids hating school, I think it's in fact the opposite. If he's having a great deal of anxiety each morning I would explore more of why that could be. Is he being bullied? Is there something specific he is afraid of? It is not often at all that my daughter says she doesn't want to go to school, even when she's sick, even my typical daughter has never tried to get out of going. A child can take Adderall and Risperdal together, but Addreal (or any stimulat ADD medication) is going to effect his appitite, it is the single most common side effect of the medication. For some children it fades off a bit and they do eat lunch and dinner, but from all the parents I've spoken to (two of my girls have ADHD) even the ones who felt they're children's appitite wasn't effected for long, found that it was when they would take a break for the weekend or for school holidays etc. It seems as if they don't stop eating all day compared to how they ate when taking the medication. There is a non-stimulat medication for ADHD/ADD, Strattera, however it takes longer to see any results because the medication has to build up in their system and then you have to give it every day too, unlike the stimulants that only need to be taken when there is a need to have them slow down and focus (many parents choose not to give on the weekends or other school breaks) Something else to consider if his anxiety is really bad, is that a stimulant medication can actually cause increased anxiety. While common it's not as common as the appitite effect, but for someone who already struggles with anxiety it may not be a great choice. Those who I've spoken with who saw increased anxiety found that they could get rid of that by reducing the dose, however it often brought it to a point where it wasn't effective for the attention and focus, so kinda defeating the purpose in taking it. I'm not saying you shouldn't try to find a medication that works for your child, my child is one that must have it, we've tried behavior modification alone and we've tried eliminating common suspects such as food dyes, sugar etc. and her ADHD is severe, she is already delayed due to seizures that has set her back and the ADHD makes it impossible for her to sit and learn even for a few seconds at a time. Without her medication she is like the energizer bunny on speed! No way the teachers can get her to get any work done or absorb any information when she's constantly going like that. But with the medication she is still a bit hyper and impulsive, but she at least has the capability to sit and do some work with some redirection and reminders to stay on task etc. Just wanted to let you know that it could be a long road and many trips to the dr. before finding the best fit for your child. Of course you may luck out and hit it quickly like we did for my older daughter too, but it seems that the more issues that need to be worked through the harder it can be. Good Luck! Theresa PS. You may find that his anxiety about going to school fades if you find a good ADHD medication too. Sometimes that anxiety is due to the fact that they know they are going to be expected to do something that is just not possible for them and based on what results that's gotten him in the past he may not like that... Such as if the teacher is constantly yelling at him to do his work, or if the other kids don't like him because he's not able to sit still. I'm In a group like this for parents of kids with ADHD, and I've lost count on the number of parents who have joined and were afraid of starting their child on medication only to have the child come home after the first day or so and tell them " Mom/Dad! I'm not dumb! " or " Mom, I had a great time at school today " They really have no understanding about why they can't sit still or pay attention and don't realize they aren't until they are actually able to. To: sList Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 4:01:01 PM Subject: Risperal by Wockhardt Limited? or Patriot? My son takes risperdone since he was 3 yrs old for his Behavior issues. He’s 8 yrs old 52 lbs and never saw any difference and he’s very skinny and the medicine doesn’t help to focus and he’s very active and sometimes he won’t stop running but he's a happy kid. Dr just increased the dose about 8 months ago and he’s taking 2mg per day, 1 in the morning and 1 at night but still don’t see any progress and I’m going to see the Neuro on Nov 9th Can anyone suggest any other medication to help focus and to slow down? or can he take Rispordone and adderall at the same time? I need a medication that won’t affect the appetite, he’s a good eater. Also he has a lot of anxiety in the morning because he knows the Bus is coming and he doesn’t want to go to school…well who want to go to school?? Most kids hate school…please I need some advice. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thank you. We have an appt tomorrow with the neurologist and I think that may solve this issue..I really really hope so. Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileSender: sList Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:23:04 -0400To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Re:Risperal ...help! HiMy son started Risperidone (generic of Risperdal) about 6 weeks ago. He started on .5ml (is that what your son is on? you said .05??) once in the morning and once at night. His behavior actually worsened at first, having meltdowns that he would not normally have, and his neurologist upped the dose to .75ml twice a day. This has worked wonderfully for him so far. Yes, you need to talk to your neurologist. Instead of waiting for the appointment, why not call?Hope this helps.Caroline My son began the med about a month ago. He takes .o5 every morning and that's it. The school says he is doing well and being focused but by 230 he is beginning the meltdown processs and by 6-8 pm severe hysteria , aggression and tantrums. We have an appt with the neurologist, but just wondering if anyone has had any experiences like this. I think the med needs to be tweeked...any ideas??Sent via BlackBerry from T-MobileSender: sList Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:44:01 -0400To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re:Risperal by Wockhardt Limited? or Patriot? Is your son verbal? Is he able to talk to you about why he dislikes school? I have to disagree with you about the fact that Most kids hating school, I think it's in fact the opposite. If he's having a great deal of anxiety each morning I would explore more of why that could be. Is he being bullied? Is there something specific he is afraid of? It is not often at all that my daughter says she doesn't want to go to school, even when she's sick, even my typical daughter has never tried to get out of going. A child can take Adderall and Risperdal together, but Addreal (or any stimulat ADD medication) is going to effect his appitite, it is the single most common side effect of the medication. For some children it fades off a bit and they do eat lunch and dinner, but from all the parents I've spoken to (two of my girls have ADHD) even the ones who felt they're children's appitite wasn't effected for long, found that it was when they would take a break for the weekend or for school holidays etc. It seems as if they don't stop eating all day compared to how they ate when taking the medication.There is a non-stimulat medication for ADHD/ADD, Strattera, however it takes longer to see any results because the medication has to build up in their system and then you have to give it every day too, unlike the stimulants that only need to be taken when there is a need to have them slow down and focus (many parents choose not to give on the weekends or other school breaks) Something else to consider if his anxiety is really bad, is that a stimulant medication can actually cause increased anxiety. While common it's not as common as the appitite effect, but for someone who already struggles with anxiety it may not be a great choice. Those who I've spoken with who saw increased anxiety found that they could get rid of that by reducing the dose, however it often brought it to a point where it wasn't effective for the attention and focus, so kinda defeating the purpose in taking it. I'm not saying you shouldn't try to find a medication that works for your child, my child is one that must have it, we've tried behavior modification alone and we've tried eliminating common suspects such as food dyes, sugar etc. and her ADHD is severe, she is already delayed due to seizures that has set her back and the ADHD makes it impossible for her to sit and learn even for a few seconds at a time. Without her medication she is like the energizer bunny on speed! No way the teachers can get her to get any work done or absorb any information when she's constantly going like that. But with the medication she is still a bit hyper and impulsive, but she at least has the capability to sit and do some work with some redirection and reminders to stay on task etc. Just wanted to let you know that it could be a long road and many trips to the dr. before finding the best fit for your child. Of course you may luck out and hit it quickly like we did for my older daughter too, but it seems that the more issues that need to be worked through the harder it can be. Good Luck!Theresa PS. You may find that his anxiety about going to school fades if you find a good ADHD medication too. Sometimes that anxiety is due to the fact that they know they are going to be expected to do something that is just not possible for them and based on what results that's gotten him in the past he may not like that... Such as if the teacher is constantly yelling at him to do his work, or if the other kids don't like him because he's not able to sit still.I'm In a group like this for parents of kids with ADHD, and I've lost count on the number of parents who have joined and were afraid of starting their child on medication only to have the child come home after the first day or so and tell them " Mom/Dad! I'm not dumb! " or " Mom, I had a great time at school today " They really have no understanding about why they can't sit still or pay attention and don't realize they aren't until they are actually able to. To: sList Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 4:01:01 PMSubject: Risperal by Wockhardt Limited? or Patriot? My son takes risperdone since he was 3 yrs old for his Behavior issues. He’s 8 yrs old 52 lbs and never saw any difference and he’s very skinny and the medicine doesn’t help to focus and he’s very active and sometimes he won’t stop running but he's a happy kid. Dr just increased the dose about 8 months ago and he’s taking 2mg per day, 1 in the morning and 1 at night but still don’t see any progress and I’m going to see the Neuro on Nov 9th Can anyone suggest any other medication to help focus and to slow down? or can he take Rispordone and adderall at the same time? I need a medication that won’t affect the appetite, he’s a good eater. Also he has a lot of anxiety in the morning because he knows the Bus is coming and he doesn’t want to go to school…well who want to go to school?? Most kids hate school…please I need some advice. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Good luck, I am sure you will find the right balance. Thank you. We have an appt tomorrow with the neurologist and I think that may solve this issue..I really really hope so. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Sender: sList Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:23:04 -0400To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re: Re:Risperal ...help! HiMy son started Risperidone (generic of Risperdal) about 6 weeks ago. He started on .5ml (is that what your son is on? you said .05??) once in the morning and once at night. His behavior actually worsened at first, having meltdowns that he would not normally have, and his neurologist upped the dose to .75ml twice a day. This has worked wonderfully for him so far. Yes, you need to talk to your neurologist. Instead of waiting for the appointment, why not call? Hope this helps.Caroline My son began the med about a month ago. He takes .o5 every morning and that's it. The school says he is doing well and being focused but by 230 he is beginning the meltdown processs and by 6-8 pm severe hysteria , aggression and tantrums. We have an appt with the neurologist, but just wondering if anyone has had any experiences like this. I think the med needs to be tweeked...any ideas?? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Sender: sList Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:44:01 -0400To: <sList >ReplyTo: sList Subject: Re:Risperal by Wockhardt Limited? or Patriot? Is your son verbal? Is he able to talk to you about why he dislikes school? I have to disagree with you about the fact that Most kids hating school, I think it's in fact the opposite. If he's having a great deal of anxiety each morning I would explore more of why that could be. Is he being bullied? Is there something specific he is afraid of? It is not often at all that my daughter says she doesn't want to go to school, even when she's sick, even my typical daughter has never tried to get out of going. A child can take Adderall and Risperdal together, but Addreal (or any stimulat ADD medication) is going to effect his appitite, it is the single most common side effect of the medication. For some children it fades off a bit and they do eat lunch and dinner, but from all the parents I've spoken to (two of my girls have ADHD) even the ones who felt they're children's appitite wasn't effected for long, found that it was when they would take a break for the weekend or for school holidays etc. It seems as if they don't stop eating all day compared to how they ate when taking the medication. There is a non-stimulat medication for ADHD/ADD, Strattera, however it takes longer to see any results because the medication has to build up in their system and then you have to give it every day too, unlike the stimulants that only need to be taken when there is a need to have them slow down and focus (many parents choose not to give on the weekends or other school breaks) Something else to consider if his anxiety is really bad, is that a stimulant medication can actually cause increased anxiety. While common it's not as common as the appitite effect, but for someone who already struggles with anxiety it may not be a great choice. Those who I've spoken with who saw increased anxiety found that they could get rid of that by reducing the dose, however it often brought it to a point where it wasn't effective for the attention and focus, so kinda defeating the purpose in taking it. I'm not saying you shouldn't try to find a medication that works for your child, my child is one that must have it, we've tried behavior modification alone and we've tried eliminating common suspects such as food dyes, sugar etc. and her ADHD is severe, she is already delayed due to seizures that has set her back and the ADHD makes it impossible for her to sit and learn even for a few seconds at a time. Without her medication she is like the energizer bunny on speed! No way the teachers can get her to get any work done or absorb any information when she's constantly going like that. But with the medication she is still a bit hyper and impulsive, but she at least has the capability to sit and do some work with some redirection and reminders to stay on task etc. Just wanted to let you know that it could be a long road and many trips to the dr. before finding the best fit for your child. Of course you may luck out and hit it quickly like we did for my older daughter too, but it seems that the more issues that need to be worked through the harder it can be. Good Luck! Theresa PS. You may find that his anxiety about going to school fades if you find a good ADHD medication too. Sometimes that anxiety is due to the fact that they know they are going to be expected to do something that is just not possible for them and based on what results that's gotten him in the past he may not like that... Such as if the teacher is constantly yelling at him to do his work, or if the other kids don't like him because he's not able to sit still. I'm In a group like this for parents of kids with ADHD, and I've lost count on the number of parents who have joined and were afraid of starting their child on medication only to have the child come home after the first day or so and tell them " Mom/Dad! I'm not dumb! " or " Mom, I had a great time at school today " They really have no understanding about why they can't sit still or pay attention and don't realize they aren't until they are actually able to. To: sList Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 4:01:01 PM Subject: Risperal by Wockhardt Limited? or Patriot? My son takes risperdone since he was 3 yrs old for his Behavior issues. He’s 8 yrs old 52 lbs and never saw any difference and he’s very skinny and the medicine doesn’t help to focus and he’s very active and sometimes he won’t stop running but he's a happy kid. Dr just increased the dose about 8 months ago and he’s taking 2mg per day, 1 in the morning and 1 at night but still don’t see any progress and I’m going to see the Neuro on Nov 9th Can anyone suggest any other medication to help focus and to slow down? or can he take Rispordone and adderall at the same time? I need a medication that won’t affect the appetite, he’s a good eater. Also he has a lot of anxiety in the morning because he knows the Bus is coming and he doesn’t want to go to school…well who want to go to school?? Most kids hate school…please I need some advice. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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