New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

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Guess what? Your kid may no longer have autism! What a great way to get out of

paying for services

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/health/research/new-autism-definition-would-ex\

clude-many-study-suggests.html?_r=2

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I was just discussing this with someone - this new criteria it appears to me would only apply to kids Dx'd after it goes into effect - theyre not going to re-evaluate 100s of thousands of kids. I agree its a great way to curb further spending! money rules everything including our kids health!

To: " Karp" <deniseslist >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:55:33 PMSubject: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

Guess what? Your kid may no longer have autism! What a great way to get out of paying for serviceshttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/health/research/new-autism-definition-would-exclude-many-study-suggests.html?_r=2

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They get re-evaluated at school every three years......

I was just discussing this with someone - this new criteria it appears to me would only apply to kids Dx'd after it goes into effect - theyre not going to re-evaluate 100s of thousands of kids. I agree its a great way to curb further spending! money rules everything including our kids health!

To: " Karp" <deniseslist >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:55:33 PMSubject: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

Guess what? Your kid may no longer have autism! What a great way to get out of paying for serviceshttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/health/research/new-autism-definition-would-exclude-many-study-suggests.html?_r=2

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yes but the school's eval is not a medical eval, I am under the impression it has no bearing, only a medical eval does.

To: sList Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:45:11 AMSubject: Re: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

They get re-evaluated at school every three years......

I was just discussing this with someone - this new criteria it appears to me would only apply to kids Dx'd after it goes into effect - theyre not going to re-evaluate 100s of thousands of kids. I agree its a great way to curb further spending! money rules everything including our kids health!

To: " Karp" <deniseslist >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:55:33 PMSubject: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

Guess what? Your kid may no longer have autism! What a great way to get out of paying for serviceshttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/health/research/new-autism-definition-would-exclude-many-study-suggests.html?_r=2

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One problem we have in the clusters is that more and more students do not have autism. They have EBD or EBD and low IQ. They do not meet a single diagnostic criteria. They have no self stimm behavior, no communication deficit, no social deficit (besides from being aggressive).

Many teachers and coaches feel that the district engages in deceptive and unethical practices. The clusters should not be a place where these students are "dumped". The schools are not equipped and the staff is not trained appropriately to deal with Ind or EBD, and what happens is a lot of PCM/restraining.

To: sList Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:26 PMSubject: Re: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

yes but the school's eval is not a medical eval, I am under the impression it has no bearing, only a medical eval does.

To: sList Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:45:11 AMSubject: Re: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

They get re-evaluated at school every three years......

I was just discussing this with someone - this new criteria it appears to me would only apply to kids Dx'd after it goes into effect - theyre not going to re-evaluate 100s of thousands of kids. I agree its a great way to curb further spending! money rules everything including our kids health!

To: " Karp" <deniseslist >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:55:33 PMSubject: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

Guess what? Your kid may no longer have autism! What a great way to get out of paying for serviceshttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/health/research/new-autism-definition-would-exclude-many-study-suggests.html?_r=2

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That explains a lot. How can parents help get the funding/help to improve this situation? Does an autism cluster get more funding than an EBD cluster? Can the school create a separate class for the more explosive kids- or do they have to go to a "cluster school"? My son is having a very hard time dealing with the daily meltdowns of his classmates. He's in a cluster class and there are at least four or five kids who tantrum or scream almost every day. One mom witnessed an incident and she told me that the kids were feeding off each others negative energy and it spiraled down fast. One boy has to be restrained regularly. (A parent witnessed this once and thought they were doing it appropriately). My son, who always loved school, often doesn't even want to go in sometimes because of the stress. Some of the parents say the same thing about their kids. The teacher is probably miserable, too. Evidently, the other students are expected to ignore it and keep working. My son said, "But Mom, we can't!!" :-( The cluster teacher is very good and we don't want to move him away from her. The VE teacher is very nice but she isn't a good match for him and I know he would slip academically if he were back with her. I really like his teacher, too and I want to help without inadvertently causing trouble for her.I appreciate any suggestions.

One problem we have in the clusters is that more and more students do not have autism. They have EBD or EBD and low IQ. They do not meet a single diagnostic criteria. They have no self stimm behavior, no communication deficit, no social deficit (besides from being aggressive).

Many teachers and coaches feel that the district engages in deceptive and unethical practices. The clusters should not be a place where these students are "dumped". The schools are not equipped and the staff is not trained appropriately to deal with Ind or EBD, and what happens is a lot of PCM/restraining.

To: sList Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:26 PMSubject: Re: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

yes but the school's eval is not a medical eval, I am under the impression it has no bearing, only a medical eval does.

To: sList Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:45:11 AMSubject: Re: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

They get re-evaluated at school every three years......

I was just discussing this with someone - this new criteria it appears to me would only apply to kids Dx'd after it goes into effect - theyre not going to re-evaluate 100s of thousands of kids. I agree its a great way to curb further spending! money rules everything including our kids health!

To: " Karp" <deniseslist >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:55:33 PMSubject: New Definition of Autism May Exclude Many, Study Suggests - NYTimes.com

Guess what? Your kid may no longer have autism! What a great way to get out of paying for serviceshttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/health/research/new-autism-definition-would-exclude-many-study-suggests.html?_r=2