Re: Snapping muscles????!!!!

March 10, 2008

Hello ,

My left arm has a muscle that snaps sometimes. It hurts. I think for

me at least it's the Myofascial pain syndrome. Have you looked into

that? SOmetimes the fascia can become hard and kind of bind the

muscles in to a certain position, then when you move the muscle, it

seems to snap it...

gentle hugs,

Loretta

>

> Hi all,

> Has anyone experienced this weird thing: sometimes when I turn the

> muscles in the front of my thighs feel almost like they snap and the

> pain when this happens is excruciating. Also, my symptoms seem to be a

> bit more pronounced on one side of my body than the other...is this

> unheard of???? My sister in law has MS and she said my symptoms sounded

> like hers before she was diagnosed. I was like " gee, thanks!! " .

> Thanks for any input.

>

March 11, 2008

that would explain why my legs are sounding like they are snapping

together alot. i hear it in my hips where the legs connect. i also

have myofacial pain syndrome.

Hugs

krystal

March 11, 2008

Krystal,

I was just diagnosed with myofacial pain syndrome. Is there anything you can

tell me about it? The Neorologist says it is pretty serious, but the Orthopedic

I am seeing didnt' seem to think it all that bad. I know that I am in alot of

pain in my shoulder neck and right side of my face and head. Are you on

disability?

Re: Snapping muscles????!!!!

that would explain why my legs are sounding like they are

snapping

together alot. i hear it in my hips where the legs connect. i also

have myofacial pain syndrome.

Hugs

krystal

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March 11, 2008

Hi Loretta,

Thanks for the " snapping " info. As soon as I find a doctor that is interested in

fibro, I will find out!!!!

Gentle hug back!

/Mi

Re: Snapping muscles????!!!!

Hello ,

My left arm has a muscle that snaps sometimes. It hurts. I think for

me at least it's the Myofascial pain syndrome. Have you looked into

that? SOmetimes the fascia can become hard and kind of bind the

muscles in to a certain position, then when you move the muscle, it

seems to snap it...

gentle hugs,

Loretta

>

> Hi all,

> Has anyone experienced this weird thing: sometimes when I turn the

> muscles in the front of my thighs feel almost like they snap and the

> pain when this happens is excruciating. Also, my symptoms seem to be a

> bit more pronounced on one side of my body than the other...is this

> unheard of???? My sister in law has MS and she said my symptoms sounded

> like hers before she was diagnosed. I was like " gee, thanks!! " .

> Thanks for any input.

>

March 12, 2008

Listmates,

These conversations about lumps and such seem so relevant to what I'm

hearing about.

One of my listmates on the low oxalate list who has fibromyalgia said:

>Hi I am new here and have been on the LOD (low oxalate diet)

>for a little over a month after being GFDF (gluten and dairy free)for almost

>two years. I have fibromyalgia and severe gluten intolerance. The results

>have been astonishing for me with incredible improvements. I am literally

>dissolving! I was wondering if there is any kind of damage/danger in sudden

> shedding of oxalates in tissue?.... The hard painful lumps and sharp pains

> in my feet and legs are gone, as

>well as fibrocystic breast lumps and hardened painful chest wall

>lumps. Any advice or experiences with this would be so welcome. I feel

>very excited, yet alone in this whole experience, as any of the doctors

>I have talked to know nothing about this.

What she said makes sense because, literally, oxalates bind minerals

(especially calcium) and crystallize in tissues. If that is what is making

these tissues stiff so that they snap, reducing oxalates might improve this

condition.

Before I reduced oxalates in myself, I would find that I would start to

" pop " in the joints of my feet (probably more ankles) when I had a few days

of higher oxalates. This always happened when I was travelling and eating

in hotel restaurants, and that popping would be embarrassingly loud when I

walked down those long hotel hallways and it would get louder and more

obvious the more I ate those hotel high-oxalate salads and more potatoes

than usual. (The " field green " salads must be extraordinarily high in

oxalate.)

One of my biggest shocks was after about two weeks on this diet, I had a

surge in energy and could suddenly walk and go up stairs at several times

my previous speed. I had started to walk like an old woman. Others have

described this change, too.

In fact this last week, I talked to a 75 year old woman I have known for

thirteen years. In the last two years, she has lowered oxalates for the

benefit of her 46 year old son with autism. His changes have been

extraordinary...His speech has improved, he is picking up self-help skills

he never had, and he is now curious, and she is having to " baby-proof " her

home because he is now getting into things he never noticed before. She is

just as excited to talk about changes she's seen in herself in the

reduction of arthritic pain and stiffness. She said her doctor was

astonished at how much less stiff she was when she came in recently for her

annual physical. The change was dramatic enough that the doctor was really

quizzing her about what she'd changed.

Especially because of the pain angle, I just don't want people to miss the

opportunity of trying this just because it sounds weird for a diet to

change so much. It really DOES make a big difference in some people and it

doesn't take long AT ALL to figure out if the diet is doing anything.

Usually most people see changes in a few days to a week....hardly a big

commitment!

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" uniceander "

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Has anyone experienced this weird thing: sometimes when I turn the

> > muscles in the front of my thighs feel almost like they snap and the

> > pain when this happens is excruciating. Also, my symptoms seem to be a

> > bit more pronounced on one side of my body than the other...is this

> > unheard of???? My sister in law has MS and she said my symptoms sounded

> > like hers before she was diagnosed. I was like " gee, thanks!! " .

> > Thanks for any input.

> >

>

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March 12, 2008

Hi - I have heard from more than one source now that gluten free diets

have helped them a lot and their symptoms and pain are less since they have been

on it. I am wondering since I have been doing low carbs (the only gluten I get

now is from 2 slices of low carb bread I fondly call " air bread " a day, 4 days a

week) and have felt so much better, if it's not due, in part, from the drastic

reduction in gluten products myself. I have had very little pasta and/or rice

since last October. Only once in awhile if I am at my kid's house and they have

a cassarole. Wonder if that could be it (in addition to the Lyrica).

Owens wrote:

Listmates,

These conversations about lumps and such seem so relevant to what I'm

hearing about.

One of my listmates on the low oxalate list who has fibromyalgia said:

>Hi I am new here and have been on the LOD (low oxalate diet)

>for a little over a month after being GFDF (gluten and dairy free)for almost

>two years. I have fibromyalgia and severe gluten intolerance. The results

>have been astonishing for me with incredible improvements. I am literally

>dissolving! I was wondering if there is any kind of damage/danger in sudden

> shedding of oxalates in tissue?.... The hard painful lumps and sharp pains

> in my feet and legs are gone, as

>well as fibrocystic breast lumps and hardened painful chest wall

>lumps. Any advice or experiences with this would be so welcome.

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March 12, 2008

,

There is an immune factor called zonulin that opens up the " leaky gut " when

exposed to gluten in the GI tract. That happens to everybody, but is worse

with those with celiac disease, and hasn't been measured yet, as far as I

can tell, in other conditions. If you don't open up the " leaky gut " then

oxalates stop being as big a problem. Also, a history of antibiotics can

be a problem because they destroy the oxalate-degrading microbes that are

in the colon.

So, yes, it might make a difference if you became a " t-totaler " on the

gluten and avoid high oxalate foods as well. Anything that contains

gluten is also high oxalate. You have to be careful if you use substitute

grains, however, as many of them are higher in oxalate than wheat.

At 03:47 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:

>Hi - I have heard from more than one source now that gluten free

>diets have helped them a lot and their symptoms and pain are less since

>they have been on it. I am wondering since I have been doing low carbs

>(the only gluten I get now is from 2 slices of low carb bread I fondly

>call " air bread " a day, 4 days a week) and have felt so much better, if

>it's not due, in part, from the drastic reduction in gluten products

>myself. I have had very little pasta and/or rice since last October. Only

>once in awhile if I am at my kid's house and they have a cassarole. Wonder

>if that could be it (in addition to the Lyrica).

>

> Owens wrote:

>Listmates,

>

>These conversations about lumps and such seem so relevant to what I'm

>hearing about.

>One of my listmates on the low oxalate list who has fibromyalgia said:

>

> >Hi I am new here and have been on the LOD (low oxalate diet)

> >for a little over a month after being GFDF (gluten and dairy free)for almost

> >two years. I have fibromyalgia and severe gluten intolerance. The results

> >have been astonishing for me with incredible improvements. I am literally

> >dissolving! I was wondering if there is any kind of damage/danger in sudden

> > shedding of oxalates in tissue?.... The hard painful lumps and sharp pains

> > in my feet and legs are gone, as

> >well as fibrocystic breast lumps and hardened painful chest wall

> >lumps. Any advice or experiences with this would be so welcome.

>

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March 12, 2008

,

I must look into this low oxalate thing...very interesting, thanks!

/Mi

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