Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 (applause) I am in total agreementTo: sList Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 9:43:13 AMSubject: profit In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Especially the doctors who "specialize" in it and charge $400-$500 per visit or consultation. Stupid me, I forget they are "doing it for the children"...right!Subject: profitTo: sList Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:43 AM In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 I think the health care industry should be completely not for profit! profit In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Very Sad but absolutely true. It breaks my heart facing this reality. Subject: profitTo: sList Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:43 AM In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 One hundred dollars every 15 minutes to be exact. It wouldn't be so bad if any of these gracious Doctors took insurance, but surprise, surprise, they do not want to deal with insurance companies. I am grateful that my Dan Dr. knows what he is doing, and the fact that he has two kids on the spectrum himself makes me feel comfortable knowing he has been in the exact position each and every one of us parents have been in, but for him not to work with insurance companies, thereby adding to to the financial burden and overall stress level of parents of ASD kids is shameful to say the least. profit To: sList Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:43 AM In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Just like the old west - sell them poison in a bottle for all the "cures". To: sList Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 12:41:58 PMSubject: Re: profit Especially the doctors who "specialize" in it and charge $400-$500 per visit or consultation. Stupid me, I forget they are "doing it for the children"...right! Subject: profitTo: sList Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:43 AM In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 My doctor once told me that the reason she has to charge me $100, is because to get $45 from the insurance companies or Medicaid, she has to charge them $100. In FL you can't have different rates for insured patients and cash paying patients - it is considered discrimination - so she has to charge me what she charges insurance and medicaid (to get $45 from them). Unfortunately FL has very few cash only doctors, so it is hard to find one that charges a small fee for visits. Most doctors do not make huge profits. The are only following the law and are forced to charge a high rate to get a small amount from insurance or medicaid. Glenda > > > > Subject: profit > To: sList > Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:43 AM > > > > > > > In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Unfortunately not only doctors, everywhere you go... including some therapists who wants to charge $$$ for therapies! many parents cannot afford any after school therapies. I want to see people working with the heart and desire to make a difference in our kids lives, many have very low expectations of them, how can something work if you do not believe in what you do? I have some therapists that have make a tremendous contribution to my son's progress during our journey... the ones that have the passion for what they do, they want to make you part of the session " not drop-off session and better if you are not here " , wants you to learn how to work with your kid at home, are not looking at the clock allt the time, and the most important: are not labeling your child! Just working on the areas they need help! Treating them with love, respect and positive reinforcement! > > > In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Ok. However, please realize that some providers also have their own families to support. The medicaid reform has hindered not only families with children needing services but also the providers that need the income to feed/clothe their own families and buy durable goods. Everyone is hurting now - not that I am promoting the incredible amounts of money that some charge. I am a therapist and also a parent of a child with autism and have difficulty getting Medicaid to reimburse me for all the therapies that I do provide for children and it is not much money to begin with. If you add in all the time you have to spend in phone calls, billing, paperwork, expenses etc some companies have to charge more. I don't but I am also unable to hire anyone and pay them a wage. The health care system is broken in every sense and now they want to repeal the vote. I'm exhausted with all this. To: sList Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 6:02:40 PMSubject: Re: profit I think the health care industry should be completely not for profit! profit In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I agree with you. I'm a mom to a low functioning kid and I have always tried to push my son. I became a therapist assistant and I work for the school system now. I see what you talk about. In regards to being motivated and loving what you do. I really love OT. I love working with all my kids on the spectrum. Especially when they are having that melt down and they just want to escape from the task. I get them and respect that they need their space but we learn by teaching about consequences. It was harder in the private clinic setting to deal with parents for myself because being a parent I gave up my life to teach my son and take him to his therapies. I always assumed that all parents are like me. Sadly mistaken. Professionals and parents its a give and take relationship. Going in with lawyers to advocate is one extreme and then to the other when you have some parents which never even go to an IEP meeting and everything in between. So you will find professionals like this. The ones who are amazing and the ones who are in it for the money and everything in between. I'm sorry that some us have to learn the hard way. Milian COTA/L aka enzo's mom Connected by MOTOBLUR™ on T-Mobile Re: profit Unfortunately not only doctors, everywhere you go... including some therapists who wants to charge $$$ for therapies! many parents cannot afford any after school therapies. I want to see people working with the heart and desire to make a difference in our kids lives, many have very low expectations of them, how can something work if you do not believe in what you do? I have some therapists that have make a tremendous contribution to my son's progress during our journey... the ones that have the passion for what they do, they want to make you part of the session " not drop-off session and better if you are not here " , wants you to learn how to work with your kid at home, are not looking at the clock allt the time, and the most important: are not labeling your child! Just working on the areas they need help! Treating them with love, respect and positive reinforcement! >> > In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 My comment was geared more towards the doctor that charges $400 to spend 30 minutes with you and your child, writes you a prescription for zoloft and says see you in 2 or 4 weeks...I've encountered that many times...sad, very sad. Subject: Re: profitTo: sList Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:39 PM Ok. However, please realize that some providers also have their own families to support. The medicaid reform has hindered not only families with children needing services but also the providers that need the income to feed/clothe their own families and buy durable goods. Everyone is hurting now - not that I am promoting the incredible amounts of money that some charge. I am a therapist and also a parent of a child with autism and have difficulty getting Medicaid to reimburse me for all the therapies that I do provide for children and it is not much money to begin with. If you add in all the time you have to spend in phone calls, billing, paperwork, expenses etc some companies have to charge more. I don't but I am also unable to hire anyone and pay them a wage. The health care system is broken in every sense and now they want to repeal the vote. I'm exhausted with all this. To: sList Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 6:02:40 PMSubject: Re: profit I think the health care industry should be completely not for profit! profit In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 honestly, I have very little respect for the way DAN doctors decided to charge their patients. there's absolutely nothing that they do that warrant a $500 consultation fee. I know that people choose to go to them and agree to pay what they ask, but that's not an excuse for them to take advantage. There're parents that can't afford the consultation and go anyways, borrowing money, using credit cards...because they believe they must try anything and everything. The fact that none of them take insurance isn't an excuse either, since all docs complain of how little insurance pays anyways. And the explanation that they can't charge differently for out-of-pocket patients is a great one...hospitals can offer patients discounts, financing plans...why can't they? When I told one DAN doctor that the fees were so high, I heard " well, but it's your kid, you want the best for him, right? " no offer of splitting the $450 in 2, or anything like that...This whole business is a shame... > > > Subject: profit > To: sList > Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:43 AM > > > > > > > > > > > #yiv653257281 p {margin:0;} > > > > > > > > In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 It is not true that doctor's can't charge differently for cash or self pay patients because I have been to doctors that have. I have also been to doctor's that have waived my copay...it just takes heart!Subject: Re: profitTo: sList Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 8:03 PMhonestly, I have very little respect for the way DAN doctors decided to charge their patients. there's absolutely nothing that they do that warrant a $500 consultation fee. I know that people choose to go to them and agree to pay what they ask, but that's not an excuse for them to take advantage. There're parents that can't afford the consultation and go anyways, borrowing money, using credit cards...because they believe they must try anything and everything. The fact that none of them take insurance isn't an excuse either, since all docs complain of how little insurance pays anyways. And the explanation that they can't charge differently for out-of-pocket patients is a great one...hospitals can offer patients discounts, financing plans...why can't they? When I told one DAN doctor that the fees were so high, I heard "well, but it's your kid, you want the best for him, right?" no offer of splitting the $450 in 2, or anything like that...This whole business is a shame...> > > Subject: profit> To: sList > Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:43 AM> > > > > > > > > > > #yiv653257281 p {margin:0;}> > > > > > > > In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business.>------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sList/<*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sList/join (Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email: sList-digest sList-fullfeatured <*> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Has anyone found a real DAN Dr. that takes insurance? profit > To: sList > Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:43 AM > > > > > > > In my 10 years of dealing with an autistic child the thing that stands out most is the number of people trying to profit from it like it's some kind of growth business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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