Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I have a friend going through this with her typical son. I'm not sure if it works the same way. She was told that her son could only test so many times and if he failed he would not go into the program. She also was told he had to have his IQ tested first and he had to have an IQ of 130 or more to even be considered for the testing. She was told they usually recommend testing after second grade. Don't know if this helps at all, but hope so. My son is 6 years old and was diagnosed at 3 years old with "High Functioning Autism" . I would like to stress that my son still has autism and by no means am I trying to say that he is "cured" but he has come a very , very long way . This school year he entered kindergarten in a "mainstream" classroom , even though when they said mainstream they meant ESE. His teacher has noticed that he is brilliant , besides his autism and has reffered him for gifted testing (without consulting with the powers that be). Now (the powers that be) are calling me trying to convince me not to get him tested. WHY? Why would they not want my son to excell and to have this great opportunity . Is there something that MDCPS loses from having my son tested? Could they sabotage this opportunity for him in any way ? If they try to , who can I call to help me ? Im nervous and I refuse for my son to be discriminated against because of his diagnosis . He is entitled to a fair & equal education . ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 My son is 6 years old and was diagnosed at 3 years old with " High Functioning Autism " . I would like to stress that my son still has autism and by no means am I trying to say that he is " cured " but he has come a very , very long way . This school year he entered kindergarten in a " mainstream " classroom , even though when they said mainstream they meant ESE. His teacher has noticed that he is brilliant , besides his autism and has reffered him for gifted testing (without consulting with the powers that be). Now (the powers that be) are calling me trying to convince me not to get him tested. WHY? Why would they not want my son to excell and to have this great opportunity . Is there something that MDCPS loses from having my son tested? Could they sabotage this opportunity for him in any way ? If they try to , who can I call to help me ? Im nervous and I refuse for my son to be discriminated against because of his diagnosis . He is entitled to a fair & equal education . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 go to www.makingschoolwork.com Hertog is a lawyer in Coral Gables that was found to be "twice exceptional". This is her specialty. Good luck and keep us posted! Wanda Glemaud, CNC, Dip DSC www.kaizenrecoverycenter.com Re: Autistic & Gifted I have a friend going through this with her typical son. I'm not sure if it works the same way. She was told that her son could only test so many times and if he failed he would not go into the program. She also was told he had to have his IQ tested first and he had to have an IQ of 130 or more to even be considered for the testing. She was told they usually recommend testing after second grade. Don't know if this helps at all, but hope so. My son is 6 years old and was diagnosed at 3 years old with "High Functioning Autism" . I would like to stress that my son still has autism and by no means am I trying to say that he is "cured" but he has come a very , very long way . This school year he entered kindergarten in a "mainstream" classroom , even though when they said mainstream they meant ESE. His teacher has noticed that he is brilliant , besides his autism and has reffered him for gifted testing (without consulting with the powers that be). Now (the powers that be) are calling me trying to convince me not to get him tested. WHY? Why would they not want my son to excell and to have this great opportunity . Is there something that MDCPS loses from having my son tested? Could they sabotage this opportunity for him in any way ? If they try to , who can I call to help me ? Im nervous and I refuse for my son to be discriminated against because of his diagnosis . He is entitled to a fair & equal education . ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 My son was actually recommended for testing by his teacher , not by me . I would not have brought it up so soon but she felt that he was not being challenged enough and that he showed many gifted traits. I am not sure about how many times you can get tested , but I know a child that is recommended for testing every school year and has never been able to pass the test (by 2 points, 3 etc..) . My problem is that it seems like " administration " does not want me to sign the agreement for testing . I was called , and was obviously trying to be discouraged about signing . The person who called me talked about the test " stressing " my child. When my child might be the least stressed , he is use to evaluations and test (he has autism) . What I dont understand is why administration does not want my child to test , when he gets 100's on everything and his teacher see's something in him . Worst comes to worst he is not accepted into the program (thats ok) , but why not give him the opportunity. Is there some reason (bureaucratic or otherwise) why MDCPS frowns on special ed children also being gifted ? I think that is discrimination . > > I have a friend going through this with her typical son. I'm not sure if > it works the same way. She was told that her son could only test so many > times and if he failed he would not go into the program. She also was told > he had to have his IQ tested first and he had to have an IQ of 130 or more > to even be considered for the testing. She was told they usually recommend > testing after second grade. Don't know if this helps at all, but hope so. > > > In a message dated 2/17/2011 9:13:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > maureen8030@... writes: > > My son is 6 years old and was diagnosed at 3 years old with " High > Functioning Autism " . I would like to stress that my son still has autism and by no > means am I trying to say that he is " cured " but he has come a very , very > long way . > > This school year he entered kindergarten in a " mainstream " classroom , > even though when they said mainstream they meant ESE. His teacher has noticed > that he is brilliant , besides his autism and has reffered him for gifted > testing (without consulting with the powers that be). > > Now (the powers that be) are calling me trying to convince me not to get > him tested. WHY? Why would they not want my son to excell and to have this > great opportunity . Is there something that MDCPS loses from having my son > tested? Could they sabotage this opportunity for him in any way ? If they > try to , who can I call to help me ? > > Im nervous and I refuse for my son to be discriminated against because of > his diagnosis . He is entitled to a fair & equal education . > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Hi, Maureen. I am the mother of a now 10 year old on the spectrum as well as being "gifted". Last year he was in the gifted class, but did not lose any of his IEP directed assistance. Special accomodations that would help offset his symptoms as related to his education must indeed be met. Just mention FAPE in their presence and watch them jump. With admiration for my brothers and sisters putting together the puzzle, one piece at a time, s Mahler To: sList Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 8:44:07 AMSubject: Autistic & Gifted My son is 6 years old and was diagnosed at 3 years old with "High Functioning Autism" . I would like to stress that my son still has autism and by no means am I trying to say that he is "cured" but he has come a very , very long way . This school year he entered kindergarten in a "mainstream" classroom , even though when they said mainstream they meant ESE. His teacher has noticed that he is brilliant , besides his autism and has reffered him for gifted testing (without consulting with the powers that be). Now (the powers that be) are calling me trying to convince me not to get him tested. WHY? Why would they not want my son to excell and to have this great opportunity . Is there something that MDCPS loses from having my son tested? Could they sabotage this opportunity for him in any way ? If they try to , who can I call to help me ? Im nervous and I refuse for my son to be discriminated against because of his diagnosis . He is entitled to a fair & equal education . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 My daughter is 10 and diagnosed with Aspergers, among other things! She is very intelligent but has severe behavior issues. She originally entered Kindergarten in a true mainstream class and was kept in mainstream through third grade when her behavior problems escalated and she could not stay in the class anymore.  She was tested by the school board in Kindergarten (when she was 6) and one of the determinations was that she was gifted. The reason the school tested her was because her behavior was so severe and they thought boredum might be contributing to her behavior. Her IEP requires that she receive a certain number of hours of gifted education a week. While mainstream, she was pulled out of class to participate in a gifted program and absolutely loved it. In her current cluster program, the gifted diagnosis ensures that she is still being instructed at a higher level... this is helpful for her because she is easily bored and that exacerbates her behavior. I understand that, once the school suggests testing, they must pay for it. Perhaps there is a budget issue. The testing done by the school board takes a long time (months). If the gifted diagnosis is not made, the IEP will not include any requirements for gifted education. Keeping in mind that the school must abide by the IEP, it may be worthwhile to have the testing done.  Hope this helps a little!   My son is 6 years old and was diagnosed at 3 years old with " High Functioning Autism " . I would like to stress that my son still has autism and by no means am I trying to say that he is " cured " but he has come a very , very long way . This school year he entered kindergarten in a " mainstream " classroom , even though when they said mainstream they meant ESE. His teacher has noticed that he is brilliant , besides his autism and has reffered him for gifted testing (without consulting with the powers that be). Now (the powers that be) are calling me trying to convince me not to get him tested. WHY? Why would they not want my son to excell and to have this great opportunity . Is there something that MDCPS loses from having my son tested? Could they sabotage this opportunity for him in any way ? If they try to , who can I call to help me ? Im nervous and I refuse for my son to be discriminated against because of his diagnosis . He is entitled to a fair & equal education . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 The school is suppose to provide a Functional Behavior Assesment and a Positive Behavior Intervention Plan to work with the behaviors. Remember that the students by law have to be in the lest restrictive environment. She will not loose the gifted eligibility until she is re-evaluated and the IEP team consider the new evaluation, other assessments, your opinion and the team professional opinion. If you have any questions you can contact me as an advocate or as a mom with two sons with Autism. Sent from my iPadOmayra Matamoros, MHSA, JDomayra.matamoros@...On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Jean Eccleston wrote: My daughter is 10 and diagnosed with Aspergers, among other things! She is very intelligent but has severe behavior issues. She originally entered Kindergarten in a true mainstream class and was kept in mainstream through third grade when her behavior problems escalated and she could not stay in the class anymore. She was tested by the school board in Kindergarten (when she was 6) and one of the determinations was that she was gifted. The reason the school tested her was because her behavior was so severe and they thought boredum might be contributing to her behavior. Her IEP requires that she receive a certain number of hours of gifted education a week. While mainstream, she was pulled out of class to participate in a gifted program and absolutely loved it. In her current cluster program, the gifted diagnosis ensures that she is still being instructed at a higher level... this is helpful for her because she is easily bored and that exacerbates her behavior. I understand that, once the school suggests testing, they must pay for it. Perhaps there is a budget issue. The testing done by the school board takes a long time (months). If the gifted diagnosis is not made, the IEP will not include any requirements for gifted education. Keeping in mind that the school must abide by the IEP, it may be worthwhile to have the testing done. Hope this helps a little! My son is 6 years old and was diagnosed at 3 years old with "High Functioning Autism" . I would like to stress that my son still has autism and by no means am I trying to say that he is "cured" but he has come a very , very long way . This school year he entered kindergarten in a "mainstream" classroom , even though when they said mainstream they meant ESE. His teacher has noticed that he is brilliant , besides his autism and has reffered him for gifted testing (without consulting with the powers that be). Now (the powers that be) are calling me trying to convince me not to get him tested. WHY? Why would they not want my son to excell and to have this great opportunity . Is there something that MDCPS loses from having my son tested? Could they sabotage this opportunity for him in any way ? If they try to , who can I call to help me ? Im nervous and I refuse for my son to be discriminated against because of his diagnosis . He is entitled to a fair & equal education . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Here is why the Powers are calling you: There are no gifted classes in first grade. There are no gifted endorsed teachers in first grade. Ask them if they have gifted classes for first graders, and if they don;t ask what grade level do they have gifted classes with gifted endorsed teachers. Children who are identified as gifted in first grade (and I do not know anyone who gets this assessment in kindergarten or first grade for the reason I just stated above) will now be labeled ESE gifted. They will get an IEP and goals will be written. In your case, he already has an IEP with goals, so he does not need this.I would revisit this issue when he enters third grade. A gifted child progresses much faster than other kids. Here is what you can do: Make sure that the homework he comes home with is appropriate for him. A gifted kindergartener is typically a fluent reader and he probably does math at first or second graded level. In other words, his homework should not be at kindergarten level. Is his teacher young or inexperienced? My son is 6 years old and was diagnosed at 3 years old with "High Functioning Autism" . I would like to stress that my son still has autism and by no means am I trying to say that he is "cured" but he has come a very , very long way . This school year he entered kindergarten in a "mainstream" classroom , even though when they said mainstream they meant ESE. His teacher has noticed that he is brilliant , besides his autism and has reffered him for gifted testing (without consulting with the powers that be). Now (the powers that be) are calling me trying to convince me not to get him tested. WHY? Why would they not want my son to excell and to have this great opportunity . Is there something that MDCPS loses from having my son tested? Could they sabotage this opportunity for him in any way ? If they try to , who can I call to help me ? Im nervous and I refuse for my son to be discriminated against because of his diagnosis . He is entitled to a fair & equal education . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 If only there was a way to be able to have advocates for college level autistic kids. If anyone is interested in talking about that subject, email me at sandymovie@.... Thanks, Sandy My son is 6 years old and was diagnosed at 3 years old with "High Functioning Autism" . I would like to stress that my son still has autism and by no means am I trying to say that he is "cured" but he has come a very , very long way . This school year he entered kindergarten in a "mainstream" classroom , even though when they said mainstream they meant ESE. His teacher has noticed that he is brilliant , besides his autism and has reffered him for gifted testing (without consulting with the powers that be). Now (the powers that be) are calling me trying to convince me not to get him tested. WHY? Why would they not want my son to excell and to have this great opportunity . Is there something that MDCPS loses from having my son tested? Could they sabotage this opportunity for him in any way ? If they try to , who can I call to help me ? Im nervous and I refuse for my son to be discriminated against because of his diagnosis . He is entitled to a fair & equal education . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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