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At 01:24 AM 8/31/05, Helen Mueller wrote:

>And to round out the current list is momordica

I had to look this up and I ran across an abstract (can't figure out how to

get the full article) on it that said:

" Investigations were carried out to evaluate the effect of Momordica

charantia on the glucose tolerance of maturity onset diabetic patients. The

fruit juice of M. charantia was found to significantly improve the glucose

tolerance of 73% of the patients investigated while the other 27% failed to

respond. "

So what does " improve the glucose tolerance " mean?

Here's the page: http://tinyurl.com/bl989

I'm out of CoQ10, myself but it's so darned expensive I've been putting off

getting more. Still, since I take a statin drug I really need to bite the

bullet get some. I'm also out of ALA but to be truthful I've not noticed

any difference in readings with it and EPO. I do notice differences with

L-Arginine, however, and like you, use 3-4 grams daily. Or were you

speaking of the whey powder that you think arginine may be the active

ingredient in?

My FBG this morning was 106 which is lower than usual for me in the

mornings. This is odd because I cheated last night and ate potato chips so

expected to see higher than normal readings today. I'd be thrilled if my

morning BG's were always in the low 100's. I go today to fight the battle

of wanting Byetta (sp?) with my NP and the doctor she works with.

I'm wondering about Tumeric. I just don't cook much that it would be good

in, so the thing is do I add yet another supplement?

Given the price of gasoline these days it's soon going to be a choice

between gasoline and supplements. I love my SUV but it's sure not the car

to have right now. Of course resale/trade in values have gone down, too

(not that I can afford to take on the debt of a new or even used vehicle).

-=skydancer=-

Don't worry about avoiding temptation---

as you grow older it starts avoiding you.

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At 01:24 AM 8/31/05, Helen Mueller wrote:

>And to round out the current list is momordica

I had to look this up and I ran across an abstract (can't figure out how to

get the full article) on it that said:

" Investigations were carried out to evaluate the effect of Momordica

charantia on the glucose tolerance of maturity onset diabetic patients. The

fruit juice of M. charantia was found to significantly improve the glucose

tolerance of 73% of the patients investigated while the other 27% failed to

respond. "

So what does " improve the glucose tolerance " mean?

Here's the page: http://tinyurl.com/bl989

I'm out of CoQ10, myself but it's so darned expensive I've been putting off

getting more. Still, since I take a statin drug I really need to bite the

bullet get some. I'm also out of ALA but to be truthful I've not noticed

any difference in readings with it and EPO. I do notice differences with

L-Arginine, however, and like you, use 3-4 grams daily. Or were you

speaking of the whey powder that you think arginine may be the active

ingredient in?

My FBG this morning was 106 which is lower than usual for me in the

mornings. This is odd because I cheated last night and ate potato chips so

expected to see higher than normal readings today. I'd be thrilled if my

morning BG's were always in the low 100's. I go today to fight the battle

of wanting Byetta (sp?) with my NP and the doctor she works with.

I'm wondering about Tumeric. I just don't cook much that it would be good

in, so the thing is do I add yet another supplement?

Given the price of gasoline these days it's soon going to be a choice

between gasoline and supplements. I love my SUV but it's sure not the car

to have right now. Of course resale/trade in values have gone down, too

(not that I can afford to take on the debt of a new or even used vehicle).

-=skydancer=-

Don't worry about avoiding temptation---

as you grow older it starts avoiding you.

www.skydancers.com

http://www.skydor.com

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At 01:24 AM 8/31/05, Helen Mueller wrote:

>And to round out the current list is momordica

I had to look this up and I ran across an abstract (can't figure out how to

get the full article) on it that said:

" Investigations were carried out to evaluate the effect of Momordica

charantia on the glucose tolerance of maturity onset diabetic patients. The

fruit juice of M. charantia was found to significantly improve the glucose

tolerance of 73% of the patients investigated while the other 27% failed to

respond. "

So what does " improve the glucose tolerance " mean?

Here's the page: http://tinyurl.com/bl989

I'm out of CoQ10, myself but it's so darned expensive I've been putting off

getting more. Still, since I take a statin drug I really need to bite the

bullet get some. I'm also out of ALA but to be truthful I've not noticed

any difference in readings with it and EPO. I do notice differences with

L-Arginine, however, and like you, use 3-4 grams daily. Or were you

speaking of the whey powder that you think arginine may be the active

ingredient in?

My FBG this morning was 106 which is lower than usual for me in the

mornings. This is odd because I cheated last night and ate potato chips so

expected to see higher than normal readings today. I'd be thrilled if my

morning BG's were always in the low 100's. I go today to fight the battle

of wanting Byetta (sp?) with my NP and the doctor she works with.

I'm wondering about Tumeric. I just don't cook much that it would be good

in, so the thing is do I add yet another supplement?

Given the price of gasoline these days it's soon going to be a choice

between gasoline and supplements. I love my SUV but it's sure not the car

to have right now. Of course resale/trade in values have gone down, too

(not that I can afford to take on the debt of a new or even used vehicle).

-=skydancer=-

Don't worry about avoiding temptation---

as you grow older it starts avoiding you.

www.skydancers.com

http://www.skydor.com

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Don't forget YMMV Helen. I tried the large dose of Biotin & found that

it negated the bg lowering effect of the ALA/EPO. I finally went back

to the lower dose & that is fine.

Of course I had a singular response to the Chromium too--affected my

digestion so badly that I had to stop taking it & it took almost a month

to recover. Caused gastroparesis-like symptoms.

Be cautious folks.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 8/05 A1c: 5.1 = 96 mean glu.

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, ALC, Vit C, Calc/mag,

low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Policosanol, folic acid, B 12

fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 40 mg/coQ10 100mg, Enalapril 10 mg

8/05:138 lbs (highest weight 309)

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

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Don't forget YMMV Helen. I tried the large dose of Biotin & found that

it negated the bg lowering effect of the ALA/EPO. I finally went back

to the lower dose & that is fine.

Of course I had a singular response to the Chromium too--affected my

digestion so badly that I had to stop taking it & it took almost a month

to recover. Caused gastroparesis-like symptoms.

Be cautious folks.

cappie

Greater Boston Area

T-2 10/02 8/05 A1c: 5.1 = 96 mean glu.

50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin

ALA/EPO, ALC, Vit C, Calc/mag,

low dose Biotin, full spectrum E,

Policosanol, folic acid, B 12

fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin,

Lovastatin 40 mg/coQ10 100mg, Enalapril 10 mg

8/05:138 lbs (highest weight 309)

5' tall /age 67,

cappie@...

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Sky wrote - > So what does " improve the glucose tolerance " mean?

It means they are able to tolerate the glucose load better with

momordica, that their bg spikes were held down.

Someone I know is very sensitive to momordica and found small doses

really lowered bgs.

It is part of a cocktail I have been giving my husband to keep diabetes

at bay. When he became disabled and no longer was doing hard physical

labor, his bgs went up and his A1c was 6.2. Tho he is still at home, his

last A1c was 5.1 and he is no longer considered in danger from diabetes.

However, my feeling is the supplements are working and should be continued.

Helen

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Hello everyone, hope all is well. Does anyone know where I could find liquid

melatonin without cassein,yeast,gluten,soy,wheat. Thank you and have a great

day! :)

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Tunies in Coral Springs - Natrol.

Hello everyone, hope all is well. Does anyone know where I could find liquid melatonin without cassein,yeast,gluten,soy,wheat. Thank you and have a great day! :)

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Hi all,

I was looking for a liquid melatonin for my family as well and looked at Whole Foods and Nutrition Smart but was not happy as all of them had products that many of our kids might react to in order to sweeten them or increase compliance. Natrol claims to be free of the major allergens but then they add vanilla and caramel which in that form can be a source of excitotoxicity (kills brain cells as well as cancer causing--kind of not the result we are looking for) . Dr. Mercola at www.mercola.com has a melatonin nano spray sweetened with xylitol, which I have just ordered to try myself and test on my kids. If it works well, I will also sell it locally and on my website. You can order or read about it here:

http://products.mercola.com/melatonin-sleep-spray/

Liquid supplements are so much more convenient, but most manufacturers throw sugar in there to make it taste better, and with all the yeast issues our kids have, that's the last thing they need is more sugar.

That said, melatonin is an amazing supplement and is being touted throughout the medical and anti aging community for a variety of benefits:

http://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3164

My two cents...

God Bless,

Wanda Glemaud, CNC, Dip DSC

www.kaizenrecoverycenter.com

www.hyperbaricedge.com

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Hello everyone, hope all is well. Does anyone know where I could find liquid melatonin without cassein,yeast,gluten,soy,wheat. Thank you and have a great day! :)

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We use melatonin from Source Naturals. Ingredients are: vitamin B-6, melatonin,

purified water, vegetable glycerin, natural orange flavor, soy lecithin, lauric

arginate and potassium benzoate. The label says it contains no yeast, dairy,

egg, gluten, wheat, sugar, starch, salt or artificial color, flavor or

fragrance.

It is a sub-lingual spray that is easy to administer and we buy it at Whole

Foods. Originally, our DAN doctor had recommended it.

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Thanks, thats where I got it. :)

Re: Supplements

We use melatonin from Source Naturals. Ingredients are: vitamin B-6, melatonin, purified water, vegetable glycerin, natural orange flavor, soy lecithin, lauric arginate and potassium benzoate. The label says it contains no yeast, dairy, egg, gluten, wheat, sugar, starch, salt or artificial color, flavor or fragrance.

It is a sub-lingual spray that is easy to administer and we buy it at Whole Foods. Originally, our DAN doctor had recommended it.

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