cold medicine recommendation

[Guest guest]

My son has a head cold and I am trying to find a "natural" medicine from the health food store but each one that I find has a lot of sugar in it, which makes him get hyper. Robittussin and Triaminnic have dyes in them which make him hyper as well. Any suggestions would be greatly apppreciated.

[Guest guest]

That is what we have always used for colds here (minus the homeopathic cold medicine) and it has worked great. We also use the Nettie Pot to clear out stuffy noses.

Robin

Jodi

Vtamin C

Colloidal Silver (liquid)

Echinacea (liquid)

Homeopathic cold medicine Hyland's or Nature's Bio

My son has a head cold and I am trying to find a "natural" medicine from the health food store but each one that I find has a lot of sugar in it, which makes him get hyper. Robittussin and Triaminnic have dyes in them which make him hyper as well. Any suggestions would be greatly apppreciated.

[Guest guest]

Jodi

Vtamin C

Colloidal Silver (liquid)

Echinacea (liquid)

Homeopathic cold medicine Hyland's or Nature's Bio

My son has a head cold and I am trying to find a "natural" medicine from the health food store but each one that I find has a lot of sugar in it, which makes him get hyper. Robittussin and Triaminnic have dyes in them which make him hyper as well. Any suggestions would be greatly apppreciated.

[Guest guest]

Jodi and all,Beware of colloidal silver, it can be toxic, please see below from the Mayo Clinichttp://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colloidal-silver/AN01682and some peer-reviewed studies published in legitimate medical journalsColloidal silver as an antimicrobial agent: fact or fiction?

J Wound Care. 2004.

Colloidal silver preparations are marketed on the internet as omnipotent antimicrobial agents, but scientific support for these claims is lacking. This study reports the results of in vitro tests of colloidal silver's antimicrobial activity against several pathogenic or non-pathogenic microorganisms. METHOD: Three samples of colloidal silver were tested: one available commercially on the internet (silver concentration of 22 ppm) and two samples (concentrations of 403 and 413 ppm) which were prepared in our laboratory using standard chemical methods. In an agar-well diffusion assay none of the three colloidal silver solutions had any effect on the growth of the test organisms. All tested bacterial strains were sensitive to ciprofloxacin. Colloidal silver 22 ppm showed no bactericidal activity in phenol coefficient tests. As the tested colloidal silver solutions did not show any antimicrobial effect in vitro on the microorganisms, claims of colloidal silver's antimicrobial potency are misleading and there is no place for it as an antiseptic.

Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal silver.

Neurology. 2004.

The authors report a case of a 71-year-old man who developed myoclonic status epilepticus and coma after daily ingestion of colloidal silver for 4 months resulting in high levels of silver in plasma, erythrocytes, and CSF. Despite plasmapheresis, he remained in a persistent vegetative state until his death 5.5 months later. Silver products can cause irreversible neurologic toxicity associated with poor outcome.

Argyria associated with colloidal silver supplementation.

Department of Dermatology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Int J Dermatol. 2003.

A 65-year-old male presented for skin examination and was incidentally noted to have discoloration of the fingernails. These findings were completely asymptomatic. The patient had been taking colloidal silver supplementation (Silverzone 140 ppm silver Gifts of Nature, St. , UT, USA) for 2 years as therapy for diabetes. He first noticed the onset of nail discoloration 1 year ago. His past medical history included type II diabetes and hypertension. His current medications were metformin, glyburide, and benazepril. Physical examination revealed slate-gray discoloration involving the lunulae of the fingernails (Fig. 1). The skin, mucous membranes, and sclerae were unaffected.

Over-the-counter drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts.

Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Public Health Service (PHS), Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Final rule.

Fed Regist. 1999.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is issuing a final rule establishing that all over-the-counter (OTC) drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for internal or external use are not generally recognized as safe and effective and are misbranded. FDA is issuing this final rule because many OTC drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts are being marketed for numerous serious disease conditions and FDA is not aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of OTC colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease conditions.

Silver products for medical indications: risk-benefit assessment.

J Toxicol Clin Toxicol. 1996. Fung MC, Bowen DL.

Center of Drug Evaluation and Research, Food and Drug Administration, Rockville, land.

Legitimate medicinal use of silver-containing products has dramatically diminished over the last several decades. Recently, however, some manufacturers have begun to enthusiastically promote oral colloidal silver proteins as mineral supplements and for prevention and treatment of many diseases. Indiscriminate use of silver products can lead to toxicity such as argyria. To assist health care professionals in a risk versus benefit assessment of over-the-counter silver-containing products, we herein examine the following issues: historical uses, chemistry, pharmacology, clinical toxicology, case reports of adverse events in the literature, and the recent promotion of over-the-counter silver products. Other sources of silver exposure (including environmental and dietary) and EPA exposure standards are discussed. A list of currently available silver products is provided for easy reference and screening. We emphasize the lack of established effectiveness and potential toxicity of these products.Regards,To: sList Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 3:30:13 PMSubject: Re: cold medicine recommendation

Jodi

Vtamin C

Colloidal Silver (liquid)

Echinacea (liquid)

Homeopathic cold medicine Hyland's or Nature's Bio

My son has a head cold and I am trying to find a "natural" medicine from the health food store but each one that I find has a lot of sugar in it, which makes him get hyper. Robittussin and Triaminnic have dyes in them which make him hyper as well. Any suggestions would be greatly apppreciated.

[Guest guest]

Jodi

Colloidal Silver (like Goldenseal) is to be used as if it is an antibiotic...in other words for the duration of the cold because it is not meant to be for long term otherwise it can be toxic. But for short term it is perfectly safe and kills bacteria. I suggested Colloidal Silver because most kids with autism are allergic to goldenseal which also acts like an antibiotic but it is ragweed. So basically you would use this as regular medicine for a short duration.

Jodi and all,Beware of colloidal silver, it can be toxic, please see below from the Mayo Clinichttp://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colloidal-silver/AN01682and some peer-reviewed studies published in legitimate medical journals

Colloidal silver as an antimicrobial agent: fact or fiction?J Wound Care. 2004.Colloidal silver preparations are marketed on the internet as omnipotent antimicrobial agents, but scientific support for these claims is lacking. This study reports the results of in vitro tests of colloidal silver's antimicrobial activity against several pathogenic or non-pathogenic microorganisms. METHOD: Three samples of colloidal silver were tested: one available commercially on the internet (silver concentration of 22 ppm) and two samples (concentrations of 403 and 413 ppm) which were prepared in our laboratory using standard chemical methods. In an agar-well diffusion assay none of the three colloidal silver solutions had any effect on the growth of the test organisms. All tested bacterial strains were sensitive to ciprofloxacin. Colloidal silver 22 ppm showed no bactericidal activity in phenol coefficient tests. As the tested colloidal silver solutions did not show any antimicrobial effect in vitro on the microorganisms, claims of colloidal silver's antimicrobial potency are misleading and there is no place for it as an antiseptic.

Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal silver.Neurology. 2004.The authors report a case of a 71-year-old man who developed myoclonic status epilepticus and coma after daily ingestion of colloidal silver for 4 months resulting in high levels of silver in plasma, erythrocytes, and CSF. Despite plasmapheresis, he remained in a persistent vegetative state until his death 5.5 months later. Silver products can cause irreversible neurologic toxicity associated with poor outcome.

Argyria associated with colloidal silver supplementation.Department of Dermatology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Int J Dermatol. 2003.A 65-year-old male presented for skin examination and was incidentally noted to have discoloration of the fingernails. These findings were completely asymptomatic. The patient had been taking colloidal silver supplementation (Silverzone 140 ppm silver Gifts of Nature, St. , UT, USA) for 2 years as therapy for diabetes. He first noticed the onset of nail discoloration 1 year ago. His past medical history included type II diabetes and hypertension. His current medications were metformin, glyburide, and benazepril. Physical examination revealed slate-gray discoloration involving the lunulae of the fingernails (Fig. 1). The skin, mucous membranes, and sclerae were unaffected.Over-the-counter drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Public Health Service (PHS), Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Final rule. Fed Regist. 1999.The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is issuing a final rule establishing that all over-the-counter (OTC) drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for internal or external use are not generally recognized as safe and effective and are misbranded. FDA is issuing this final rule because many OTC drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts are being marketed for numerous serious disease conditions and FDA is not aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of OTC colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease conditions.

Silver products for medical indications: risk-benefit assessment.J Toxicol Clin Toxicol. 1996. Fung MC, Bowen DL. Center of Drug Evaluation and Research, Food and Drug Administration, Rockville, land.Legitimate medicinal use of silver-containing products has dramatically diminished over the last several decades. Recently, however, some manufacturers have begun to enthusiastically promote oral colloidal silver proteins as mineral supplements and for prevention and treatment of many diseases. Indiscriminate use of silver products can lead to toxicity such as argyria. To assist health care professionals in a risk versus benefit assessment of over-the-counter silver-containing products, we herein examine the following issues: historical uses, chemistry, pharmacology, clinical toxicology, case reports of adverse events in the literature, and the recent promotion of over-the-counter silver products. Other sources of silver exposure (including environmental and dietary) and EPA exposure standards are discussed. A list of currently available silver products is provided for easy reference and screening. We emphasize the lack of established effectiveness and potential toxicity of these products.Regards,

To: sList Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 3:30:13 PMSubject: Re: cold medicine recommendation

Jodi

Vtamin C

Colloidal Silver (liquid)

Echinacea (liquid)

Homeopathic cold medicine Hyland's or Nature's Bio

My son has a head cold and I am trying to find a "natural" medicine from the health food store but each one that I find has a lot of sugar in it, which makes him get hyper. Robittussin and Triaminnic have dyes in them which make him hyper as well. Any suggestions would be greatly apppreciated.

[Guest guest]

To avoid the toxicity, perhaps putting lavender herb (like you buy at the

grocery store) in some rice would work. It is an antimicrobial as well. There

are also the natural antibiotic affects of parsley. Also 100% Ginger Tea

(publix sells Caribbean Dreams brand - usually on the canned meat aisle - not w/

the tea and coffee, is good for colds (also good for stomach problems) An Indian

study showed it increases the body's ability to fight infection as well as

fighting the effects of colds and influenza. Several types of tea are good for

colds - Chamomile (the one w/ leaves not dust - Celestial Seasonings is good.)

Peppermint tea soothes a sore throat. If your child is on all naturals and

nothing prescribed that would interact poorly with it Elderberry capsules or

liquid work well. I have had good success using it for colds. Eating sauces or

foods w/ lots of garlic in them is also a way to get rid of a cold.

Honey and lemon, has healing properties, and is also soothing on the throat. I

have given it to my son when he gets a cold. I mix one teaspoon of honey with 4

drops of lemon juice and give it to him 4 times a day. It really seems to work.

A little (very limited) sugar is not all bad, as sugar itself has some healing

properties.

Glenda

>

> Jodi and all,

>

> Beware of colloidal silver, it can be toxic, please see below from the Mayo

> Clinic

>

> http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colloidal-silver/AN01682

>

> and some peer-reviewed studies published in legitimate medical journals

>

>

>

> Colloidal silver as an antimicrobial agent: fact or fiction?

> J Wound Care. 2004.

> Colloidal silver preparations are marketed on the internet as omnipotent

> antimicrobial agents, but scientific support for these claims is lacking.

This

> study reports the results of in vitro tests of colloidal silver's

antimicrobial

> activity against several pathogenic or non-pathogenic microorganisms. METHOD:

> Three samples of colloidal silver were tested: one available commercially on

> the internet (silver concentration of 22 ppm) and two samples (concentrations

> of 403 and 413 ppm) which were prepared in our laboratory using standard

> chemical methods. In an agar-well diffusion assay none of the three

colloidal

> silver solutions had any effect on the growth of the test organisms. All

tested

> bacterial strains were sensitive to ciprofloxacin. Colloidal silver 22 ppm

> showed no bactericidal activity in phenol coefficient tests. As the tested

> colloidal silver solutions did not show any antimicrobial effect in vitro on

> the microorganisms, claims of colloidal silver's antimicrobial potency are

> misleading and there is no place for it as an antiseptic.

> Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal

> silver.

> Neurology. 2004.

> The authors report a case of a 71-year-old man who developed myoclonic status

> epilepticus and coma after daily ingestion of colloidal silver for 4 months

> resulting in high levels of silver in plasma, erythrocytes, and CSF. Despite

> plasmapheresis, he remained in a persistent vegetative state until his death

> 5.5 months later. Silver products can cause irreversible neurologic toxicity

> associated with poor outcome.

> Argyria associated with colloidal silver supplementation.

> Department of Dermatology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Int J

Dermatol.

> 2003.

> A 65-year-old male presented for skin examination and was incidentally noted

to

> have discoloration of the fingernails. These findings were completely

> asymptomatic. The patient had been taking colloidal silver supplementation

> (Silverzone 140 ppm silver Gifts of Nature, St. , UT, USA) for 2 years

as

> therapy for diabetes. He first noticed the onset of nail discoloration 1 year

> ago. His past medical history included type II diabetes and hypertension. His

> current medications were metformin, glyburide, and benazepril. Physical

> examination revealed slate-gray discoloration involving the lunulae of the

> fingernails (Fig. 1). The skin, mucous membranes, and sclerae were

unaffected.

>

> Over-the-counter drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or

> silver salts.

>

> Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Public Health Service (PHS),

> Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Final rule. Fed Regist. 1999.

> The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is issuing a final rule establishing

> that all over-the-counter (OTC) drug products containing colloidal silver

> ingredients or silver salts for internal or external use are not generally

> recognized as safe and effective and are misbranded. FDA is issuing this

final

> rule because many OTC drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients

or

> silver salts are being marketed for numerous serious disease conditions and

FDA

> is not aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of

> OTC colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease

conditions.

> Silver products for medical indications: risk-benefit assessment.

> J Toxicol Clin Toxicol. 1996. Fung MC, Bowen DL. Center of Drug Evaluation and

> Research, Food and Drug Administration, Rockville, land.

> Legitimate medicinal use of silver-containing products has dramatically

> diminished over the last several decades. Recently, however, some

manufacturers

> have begun to enthusiastically promote oral colloidal silver proteins as

> mineral supplements and for prevention and treatment of many diseases.

> Indiscriminate use of silver products can lead to toxicity such as argyria.

To

> assist health care professionals in a risk versus benefit assessment of

> over-the-counter silver-containing products, we herein examine the following

> issues: historical uses, chemistry, pharmacology, clinical toxicology, case

> reports of adverse events in the literature, and the recent promotion of

> over-the-counter silver products. Other sources of silver exposure (including

> environmental and dietary) and EPA exposure standards are discussed. A list

of

> currently available silver products is provided for easy reference and

> screening. We emphasize the lack of established effectiveness and potential

> toxicity of these products.

>

> Regards,

>

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> ________________________________

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> To: sList

> Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 3:30:13 PM

> Subject: Re: cold medicine recommendation

>

>

> Jodi

>

> Vtamin C

> Colloidal Silver (liquid)

> Echinacea (liquid)

> Homeopathic cold medicine Hyland's or Nature's Bio

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/27/2011 9:26:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> JodiNeuhof@... writes:

>

> >

> >My son has a head cold and I am trying to find a " natural " medicine from

the

> >health food store but each one that I find has a lot of sugar in it, which

> >makes him get hyper. Robittussin and Triaminnic have dyes in them which

make

> >him hyper as well. Any suggestions would be greatly apppreciated.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I also use honey with little lemon juice everyday for the throat. Yummy ... My

son loves it.

> >

> > Jodi and all,

> >

> > Beware of colloidal silver, it can be toxic, please see below from the Mayo

> > Clinic

> >

> > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colloidal-silver/AN01682

> >

> > and some peer-reviewed studies published in legitimate medical journals

> >

> >

> >

> > Colloidal silver as an antimicrobial agent: fact or fiction?

> > J Wound Care. 2004.

> > Colloidal silver preparations are marketed on the internet as omnipotent

> > antimicrobial agents, but scientific support for these claims is lacking.

This

> > study reports the results of in vitro tests of colloidal silver's

antimicrobial

> > activity against several pathogenic or non-pathogenic microorganisms.

METHOD:

> > Three samples of colloidal silver were tested: one available commercially

on

> > the internet (silver concentration of 22 ppm) and two samples

(concentrations

> > of 403 and 413 ppm) which were prepared in our laboratory using standard

> > chemical methods. In an agar-well diffusion assay none of the three

colloidal

> > silver solutions had any effect on the growth of the test organisms. All

tested

> > bacterial strains were sensitive to ciprofloxacin. Colloidal silver 22 ppm

> > showed no bactericidal activity in phenol coefficient tests. As the tested

> > colloidal silver solutions did not show any antimicrobial effect in vitro

on

> > the microorganisms, claims of colloidal silver's antimicrobial potency are

> > misleading and there is no place for it as an antiseptic.

> > Myoclonic status epilepticus following repeated oral ingestion of colloidal

> > silver.

> > Neurology. 2004.

> > The authors report a case of a 71-year-old man who developed myoclonic

status

> > epilepticus and coma after daily ingestion of colloidal silver for 4 months

> > resulting in high levels of silver in plasma, erythrocytes, and CSF.

Despite

> > plasmapheresis, he remained in a persistent vegetative state until his

death

> > 5.5 months later. Silver products can cause irreversible neurologic

toxicity

> > associated with poor outcome.

> > Argyria associated with colloidal silver supplementation.

> > Department of Dermatology, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Int J

Dermatol.

> > 2003.

> > A 65-year-old male presented for skin examination and was incidentally

noted to

> > have discoloration of the fingernails. These findings were completely

> > asymptomatic. The patient had been taking colloidal silver supplementation

> > (Silverzone 140 ppm silver Gifts of Nature, St. , UT, USA) for 2

years as

> > therapy for diabetes. He first noticed the onset of nail discoloration 1

year

> > ago. His past medical history included type II diabetes and hypertension.

His

> > current medications were metformin, glyburide, and benazepril. Physical

> > examination revealed slate-gray discoloration involving the lunulae of the

> > fingernails (Fig. 1). The skin, mucous membranes, and sclerae were

unaffected.

> >

> > Over-the-counter drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or

> > silver salts.

> >

> > Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), Public Health Service (PHS),

> > Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Final rule. Fed Regist. 1999.

> > The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is issuing a final rule establishing

> > that all over-the-counter (OTC) drug products containing colloidal silver

> > ingredients or silver salts for internal or external use are not generally

> > recognized as safe and effective and are misbranded. FDA is issuing this

final

> > rule because many OTC drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients

or

> > silver salts are being marketed for numerous serious disease conditions and

FDA

> > is not aware of any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use

of

> > OTC colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease

conditions.

> > Silver products for medical indications: risk-benefit assessment.

> > J Toxicol Clin Toxicol. 1996. Fung MC, Bowen DL. Center of Drug Evaluation

and

> > Research, Food and Drug Administration, Rockville, land.

> > Legitimate medicinal use of silver-containing products has dramatically

> > diminished over the last several decades. Recently, however, some

manufacturers

> > have begun to enthusiastically promote oral colloidal silver proteins as

> > mineral supplements and for prevention and treatment of many diseases.

> > Indiscriminate use of silver products can lead to toxicity such as argyria.

To

> > assist health care professionals in a risk versus benefit assessment of

> > over-the-counter silver-containing products, we herein examine the

following

> > issues: historical uses, chemistry, pharmacology, clinical toxicology, case

> > reports of adverse events in the literature, and the recent promotion of

> > over-the-counter silver products. Other sources of silver exposure

(including

> > environmental and dietary) and EPA exposure standards are discussed. A list

of

> > currently available silver products is provided for easy reference and

> > screening. We emphasize the lack of established effectiveness and potential

> > toxicity of these products.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: " badillo9@ " <badillo9@>

> > To: sList

> > Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 3:30:13 PM

> > Subject: Re: cold medicine recommendation

> >

> >

> > Jodi

> >

> > Vtamin C

> > Colloidal Silver (liquid)

> > Echinacea (liquid)

> > Homeopathic cold medicine Hyland's or Nature's Bio

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 4/27/2011 9:26:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > JodiNeuhof@ writes:

> >

> > >

> > >My son has a head cold and I am trying to find a " natural " medicine from

the

> > >health food store but each one that I find has a lot of sugar in it,

which

> > >makes him get hyper. Robittussin and Triaminnic have dyes in them which

make

> > >him hyper as well. Any suggestions would be greatly apppreciated.

> > >

> > >

> >

>