RE: tight control for heart patients?

[Guest guest]

Many endows, including mine, say it is better to run slightly high. This is

especially so with diabetics who have heart problems because many diabetics

can die from a heart attack if they become very, very low. I personally

know of 3 diabetics who died from that happening.

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From: blind-diabetics

[mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth

Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:58 PM

To: blind diabetics

Subject: tight control for heart patients?

Pat sent out a post a few years ago that said that a study had shown that

tight control of diabetes for those who have had heart issues could cause

more problems. seems like it said those of us who have had a heart attack

before, should not try to have such tight sugar control. the reason why I

been thinking of that article is when my sugar does get down to the 70's and

80's I do have some chest pane. it isn't real bad and it comes and goes. it

does seem though when my sugar goes up to the 90's and higher, but still

under 120 the chest pane goes away. of course I realize this all might be in

my head and brought on by stress. I will tell my heart doc about it when I

see him in July. I do know to not play around with chest pane and I do go to

the emergency room to have it checked out. I also know you can find about

any kind of article on the net to support any argument you need to defend.

some of these studies don't tell you all you need to know about lots of

important things that would matter. maybe some one out here can recall that

post and no what it said?

[Guest guest]

My indocrinologist does not want to see a glr below 80. I have all kinds of

fibrilations, atrial and ventricular ones, and when I started taking a daily

magnesium pill of 400 mg most of those gflutters went away. Of course I also

take the heart drug Coreg daily, as prescribed by the doctor. I don't believe a

magnesium would do you any harm. In fact it may do you some good. When I am

having a low glr my ticker feels uncomfortable with extra flutters.

The doctor does not want to see me go over 180, but I often have glr's well over

200 with an ocasional one over 300, but infrequently.just saying, Harry

Life is unfair. That's a fact.

[Guest guest]

this is such wonderful news to hear first thing of the morning. I'm hoping

that to low is like below 60? mostly I feel fine in the 90's and some 80's, but

when it gets to the 60's I simply don't feel good. even wake up in the middle of

the night with the shakes. funny how though when I first wake up I'm real hot

and then the shakes take place after that. will check my sugar and it will be

fine. some times it may be in the 80's, but never have I had it go much lower

then this unless I just wasn't aware of it. seems like it mostly happens when I

go to bed in the low 90's. any time my sugar is running around 100 to 115 at bed

time there is no problem. the bottom line is we all need to listen to our own

bodies and listen and really hear what they are telling us. my body tells me

that sugars below the 80's isn't good for me in the way they cause me to feel.

one thing simply doesn't work for each person. we are all different. can you

believe that?

tight control for heart patients?

Pat sent out a post a few years ago that said that a study had shown that

tight control of diabetes for those who have had heart issues could cause

more problems. seems like it said those of us who have had a heart attack

before, should not try to have such tight sugar control. the reason why I

been thinking of that article is when my sugar does get down to the 70's and

80's I do have some chest pane. it isn't real bad and it comes and goes. it

does seem though when my sugar goes up to the 90's and higher, but still

under 120 the chest pane goes away. of course I realize this all might be in

my head and brought on by stress. I will tell my heart doc about it when I

see him in July. I do know to not play around with chest pane and I do go to

the emergency room to have it checked out. I also know you can find about

any kind of article on the net to support any argument you need to defend.

some of these studies don't tell you all you need to know about lots of

important things that would matter. maybe some one out here can recall that

post and no what it said?

[Guest guest]

for my A fib they gave me Amiodarones 200 mg. started out taking 2 a day of

the morning, but soon I was feeling sick and the doc took one away. I only take

one a day now and no more fluttering have I had in about 3 months. do have the

ticker speed up some nights, but they say the half life of this Amiodarone is

pretty strong and can grab the ticker and pull it back down. so far that has

been the case. the bad thing about the drug is it keeps my heart from beating as

fast. it's some times hard to get the energy to move about. makes me feel tired

and sleepy a lot and just wish to be a rug and lie around. when I did have the A

fib flare up back last February my magnesium leves were low and they gave me a

bag of it. couldn't actually feel any difference though. my heart attack I had

back in 2007 didn't scare me much and it wasn't painful like many say there's

is, but this last flare up with my A Fib did scare me. it didn't hurt in a

painful way, but that fluttering isn't a thing I wish to do again if I can

prevent it. it is just to strange of a feeling to me. my biggest problem with my

ticker is it get out of the sciatic rhythm and speeds up. it can go from the

70's to over 200 in a matter of a few minutes. then they have a very hard time

of getting it to slow down. the highest so far was 237 and I thought that was

fast enough in my opinion. one of the doctor's in the emergency room said he had

seen it 300 before, but it was a baby and not a 50 year old man. kind of funny

when I recall asking guys why they done drugs or alcohol for so long that they

messed up there bodies? they all pretty much say the same thing for there

answer. If I knew it would have messed me up like this, then I would have never

gone this far. Well I think like they kind of do. If I would have only believed

that over eating and out of control diabetes, would have messed my health up

this bad, I wouldn't have went this far. how many people right now are headed

down the same trail with over eating and not watching there sugar readings 2

hours after they ate? no one thinks the bad junk will happen to them! we all

believe it only happens to the other guy. by the time we add it all up and count

the cost, well it is much to late. wonder why we can't seem to learn from the

other guys mistakes?

Re: tight control for heart patients?

My indocrinologist does not want to see a glr below 80. I have all kinds of

fibrilations, atrial and ventricular ones, and when I started taking a daily

magnesium pill of 400 mg most of those gflutters went away. Of course I also

take the heart drug Coreg daily, as prescribed by the doctor. I don't believe a

magnesium would do you any harm. In fact it may do you some good. When I am

having a low glr my ticker feels uncomfortable with extra flutters.

The doctor does not want to see me go over 180, but I often have glr's well

over 200 with an ocasional one over 300, but infrequently.just saying, Harry

Life is unfair. That's a fact.

[Guest guest]

yes we are all diffrent because there is no way i would go to bed if mine was in

the low 100 it scares me to bad i have gone to bed and it be 140 but i keep a

check on it through the night .

i am also on heart rate meds .

amy

tight control for heart patients?

Pat sent out a post a few years ago that said that a study had shown that

tight control of diabetes for those who have had heart issues could cause

more problems. seems like it said those of us who have had a heart attack

before, should not try to have such tight sugar control. the reason why I

been thinking of that article is when my sugar does get down to the 70's and

80's I do have some chest pane. it isn't real bad and it comes and goes. it

does seem though when my sugar goes up to the 90's and higher, but still

under 120 the chest pane goes away. of course I realize this all might be in

my head and brought on by stress. I will tell my heart doc about it when I

see him in July. I do know to not play around with chest pane and I do go to

the emergency room to have it checked out. I also know you can find about

any kind of article on the net to support any argument you need to defend.

some of these studies don't tell you all you need to know about lots of

important things that would matter. maybe some one out here can recall that

post and no what it said?

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

Do you ever have dizziness when you get off of the nowhere bike? I wonder

because I had some dizziness when I got up from my chair during this last

hot spell we just had. I notice the temparature on my new little apple

clock is 74 and 75 today and the other day it got as high as 83 in here. We

have a window air conditioner but if I let it get too cool then gets

a chill. It was also really making me a person who was not very pleasant to

be around.

Today it has cooled off and I am feeling much better physically and

mentally.

But the summer is going to knock the hell out of me if this last weekend was

any indication.

Lora

Re: tight control for heart patients?

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> My indocrinologist does not want to see a glr below 80. I have all kinds

> of fibrilations, atrial and ventricular ones, and when I started taking a

> daily magnesium pill of 400 mg most of those gflutters went away. Of

> course I also take the heart drug Coreg daily, as prescribed by the

> doctor. I don't believe a magnesium would do you any harm. In fact it may

> do you some good. When I am having a low glr my ticker feels uncomfortable

> with extra flutters.

> The doctor does not want to see me go over 180, but I often have glr's

> well over 200 with an ocasional one over 300, but infrequently.just

> saying, Harry

> Life is unfair. That's a fact.

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[Guest guest]

If my bedtime glr is 100 or below I eat a hard rock candy

[Guest guest]

what a good reason to have the fine candy around! well that is if you can

only eat just one.

Re: tight control for heart patients?

If my bedtime glr is 100 or below I eat a hard rock candy

[Guest guest]

I have found that mostly that feeling is do to your blood pressure. getting

up to quickly will do it pretty much all the time. daily exercise will and does

help to maintain good blood pressure. now as far as the heat goes. when there is

a lot of dampness in the air this will make us who are over weight feel like we

have all ready ran ten miles before we start the day. I dislike the heat in a

real bad way. hate is such a strong word and hate to use it to much. to hot is

as bad as to cold! my wife is T 2 as well and she stays hot. I take blood

thinners and I stay cold! funny how it works out this way. try to stand up from

a laying or sitting position slower. like don't just bell out of bed. always

stop and sit up for a half minute before standing up. sitting though you stand

up and then just stand still for a moment before starting to walk off. then

should all help and make sure you tell the saw bones how this standing up makes

you feel like falling on your head. it pretty much happens to all of us when we

get up to fast. good luck with the heat and do try not to be to mean to those

around you! like instead of biting off there heads, maybe bite off a finger

instead.

Re: tight control for heart patients?

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> My indocrinologist does not want to see a glr below 80. I have all kinds

> of fibrilations, atrial and ventricular ones, and when I started taking a

> daily magnesium pill of 400 mg most of those gflutters went away. Of

> course I also take the heart drug Coreg daily, as prescribed by the

> doctor. I don't believe a magnesium would do you any harm. In fact it may

> do you some good. When I am having a low glr my ticker feels uncomfortable

> with extra flutters.

> The doctor does not want to see me go over 180, but I often have glr's

> well over 200 with an ocasional one over 300, but infrequently.just

> saying, Harry

> Life is unfair. That's a fact.

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