Guest guest Posted February 29, 2004 Report Share Posted February 29, 2004 as long as u followed the link yahoo sent you about bouncing you should be ok. I know this morning I saw your name on the list, but your no longer on there so you are not bouncing anymore hon. Hugs Deanna > Yahoo says I'm bouncing....no mail today for me. > Love & Friendship, > Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Maureen Lowe wrote: > > Can anyone tell my why my fasting rate is higher than 2 hrs. after dinner rate. I don't normally snack after dinner, but in the morning before breakfast the rate is always about 1 or so points higher than 2 hrs after the meal and even just before sleep rate. I thought fasting rate should be lower??? > Thanks, Maureen http://www.diabetic-talk.org/dp.htm " One of the most frustrating things that diabetics deal with is an unexpected rise in blood glucose overnight. You go to bed with a BG of 100 mg/dL (5.6 mmol/L), and wake up with a BG of 130 (7.2)! You didn't eat, so what happened? This results from two distinctly different processes: Dawn Phenomenon and Somogyi Effect. Here are some basics. DAWN PHENOMENON Everyone, diabetic or not, exhibits some Dawn Phenomenon. It is a natural part of our bodies' circadian rhythms. Some have said it is the way our ancestors had the strength to rise and slay a wooly behemoth for breakfast. Since most of us fast while sleeping, with teenagers a possible exception, our bodies use stored energy during sleep. If you have read our Nutrition Section, you know that the body uses all three macro-nutrients (carbohydrates, proteins, and fats) to store energy. The most easily used is the storage medium of carbohydrates, called glycogen. Glycogen is made from glucose, and is stored in the liver and muscles. Since it is basically nothing more than a complex matrix of glucose, it is easy for the body to store and use, something the body does all day long. The technical term for the act of creating and storing glycogen is glycogenesis. When the body calls for the conversion of glycogen back to glucose it is called glycogenolysis. Another macro-nutrient that is available to be converted to glucose is protein. Most of us think of our protein as being stored in muscle, but the body has protective mechanisms to make muscle wasting its last choice. One of the most useful and readily available sources of protein storage is in blood components, i.e., albumin (plasma). The body uses a process performed in the liver to convert amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, into glucose. The name for this process is gluconeogenesis, literally " the creation of new glucose " . So, what does all this have to do with a high fasting BG? Overnight, usually between 4am and 11am, your body releases some hormones. These are Growth Hormone (GH) from the anterior pituitary gland, cortisol from the adrenal cortex, glucagon from your pancreatic alpha-cells, and epinephrine (adrenalin). These hormones cause an increase in insulin resistance, raising your BG. In addition, these hormones trigger glycogenolysis and gluconeogenesis, adding stored or new glucose to your bloodstream. Dawn Phenomenon, and its associated increase in insulin resistance, is the reason most diabetics are far more sensitive to carbs in the morning. Dealing with Dawn Phenomenon There are many ways of defeating Dawn Phenomenon. You will have to experiment with the following suggestions to see what works for you. 1. Try eating no food after dinner. This works for people whose Dawn Phenomenon isn't very strong. Basically, it lowers their baseline BG, so that when DP does hit them, the increase keeps them below a certain level, usually 120 (6.7). 2. Try eating a small snack of fat and protein before bed. Most find that a tablespoon of peanut butter, or some cheese and deli meat are effective. The theory here is that the slow-digesting fat and protein holds their BG high enough overnight to avoid Somogyi Effect (see below). 3. Eventually, you will learn how the two disparate approaches above work for you. Hopefully, you will set personal targets to guide you, eg., if my BG is below XXX (insert your target here), I need a snack. If my BG is over XXX, I don't need a snack. 4. Lastly, the prescription medication Metformin HCl (Glucophage) is often very effective in limiting Dawn Phenomenon for Type-2s and insulin resistant Type-1s. Of course, Type-1s can adjust their basal (slow) insulin regimen to account for Dawn Phenomenon. 5. Lastly, EAT BREAKFAST. The resulting increase in blood glucose from food will often turn off the continued rise. If you don't, some diabetics will continue to rise until 10-11 am. SOMOGYI EFFECT Somogyi Effect, named for Dr. Somogyi, its discoverer, is a high morning BG due to a low overnight. It is most commonly seen with insulin using diabetics, but is also seen with overnight reactive hypoglycemics. The mechanism is a low overnight, which causes the body to react by releasing many of the same hormones seen in DP. The strongest blood glucose increasing hormone, glucagon, plays an important role. It tells your liver to start glycogenolysis and gluconeogenesis to provide enough glucose for your body to survive. This is sometimes referred to as a Liver Dump. Often, this mechanism over-produces, and you wake to a significantly higher BG. Setting your bedtime BG target a bit higher, will usually prevent you from having a hypoglycemic event overnight. Back Next Copyright © 2004 Diabetic-Talk.Org All rights reserved " -- F. in Atlanta, GA 330/262/145 " Uneducated people do what they are told... Educated people question what they are told. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Maureen Lowe wrote: > > Can anyone tell my why my fasting rate is higher than 2 hrs. after dinner rate. I don't normally snack after dinner, but in the morning before breakfast the rate is always about 1 or so points higher than 2 hrs after the meal and even just before sleep rate. I thought fasting rate should be lower??? > Thanks, Maureen http://www.diabetic-talk.org/dp.htm " One of the most frustrating things that diabetics deal with is an unexpected rise in blood glucose overnight. You go to bed with a BG of 100 mg/dL (5.6 mmol/L), and wake up with a BG of 130 (7.2)! You didn't eat, so what happened? This results from two distinctly different processes: Dawn Phenomenon and Somogyi Effect. Here are some basics. DAWN PHENOMENON Everyone, diabetic or not, exhibits some Dawn Phenomenon. It is a natural part of our bodies' circadian rhythms. Some have said it is the way our ancestors had the strength to rise and slay a wooly behemoth for breakfast. Since most of us fast while sleeping, with teenagers a possible exception, our bodies use stored energy during sleep. If you have read our Nutrition Section, you know that the body uses all three macro-nutrients (carbohydrates, proteins, and fats) to store energy. The most easily used is the storage medium of carbohydrates, called glycogen. Glycogen is made from glucose, and is stored in the liver and muscles. Since it is basically nothing more than a complex matrix of glucose, it is easy for the body to store and use, something the body does all day long. The technical term for the act of creating and storing glycogen is glycogenesis. When the body calls for the conversion of glycogen back to glucose it is called glycogenolysis. Another macro-nutrient that is available to be converted to glucose is protein. Most of us think of our protein as being stored in muscle, but the body has protective mechanisms to make muscle wasting its last choice. One of the most useful and readily available sources of protein storage is in blood components, i.e., albumin (plasma). The body uses a process performed in the liver to convert amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, into glucose. The name for this process is gluconeogenesis, literally " the creation of new glucose " . So, what does all this have to do with a high fasting BG? Overnight, usually between 4am and 11am, your body releases some hormones. These are Growth Hormone (GH) from the anterior pituitary gland, cortisol from the adrenal cortex, glucagon from your pancreatic alpha-cells, and epinephrine (adrenalin). These hormones cause an increase in insulin resistance, raising your BG. In addition, these hormones trigger glycogenolysis and gluconeogenesis, adding stored or new glucose to your bloodstream. Dawn Phenomenon, and its associated increase in insulin resistance, is the reason most diabetics are far more sensitive to carbs in the morning. Dealing with Dawn Phenomenon There are many ways of defeating Dawn Phenomenon. You will have to experiment with the following suggestions to see what works for you. 1. Try eating no food after dinner. This works for people whose Dawn Phenomenon isn't very strong. Basically, it lowers their baseline BG, so that when DP does hit them, the increase keeps them below a certain level, usually 120 (6.7). 2. Try eating a small snack of fat and protein before bed. Most find that a tablespoon of peanut butter, or some cheese and deli meat are effective. The theory here is that the slow-digesting fat and protein holds their BG high enough overnight to avoid Somogyi Effect (see below). 3. Eventually, you will learn how the two disparate approaches above work for you. Hopefully, you will set personal targets to guide you, eg., if my BG is below XXX (insert your target here), I need a snack. If my BG is over XXX, I don't need a snack. 4. Lastly, the prescription medication Metformin HCl (Glucophage) is often very effective in limiting Dawn Phenomenon for Type-2s and insulin resistant Type-1s. Of course, Type-1s can adjust their basal (slow) insulin regimen to account for Dawn Phenomenon. 5. Lastly, EAT BREAKFAST. The resulting increase in blood glucose from food will often turn off the continued rise. If you don't, some diabetics will continue to rise until 10-11 am. SOMOGYI EFFECT Somogyi Effect, named for Dr. Somogyi, its discoverer, is a high morning BG due to a low overnight. It is most commonly seen with insulin using diabetics, but is also seen with overnight reactive hypoglycemics. The mechanism is a low overnight, which causes the body to react by releasing many of the same hormones seen in DP. The strongest blood glucose increasing hormone, glucagon, plays an important role. It tells your liver to start glycogenolysis and gluconeogenesis to provide enough glucose for your body to survive. This is sometimes referred to as a Liver Dump. Often, this mechanism over-produces, and you wake to a significantly higher BG. Setting your bedtime BG target a bit higher, will usually prevent you from having a hypoglycemic event overnight. Back Next Copyright © 2004 Diabetic-Talk.Org All rights reserved " -- F. in Atlanta, GA 330/262/145 " Uneducated people do what they are told... Educated people question what they are told. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Maureen Lowe wrote: > > Can anyone tell my why my fasting rate is higher than 2 hrs. after dinner rate. I don't normally snack after dinner, but in the morning before breakfast the rate is always about 1 or so points higher than 2 hrs after the meal and even just before sleep rate. I thought fasting rate should be lower??? > Thanks, Maureen http://www.diabetic-talk.org/dp.htm " One of the most frustrating things that diabetics deal with is an unexpected rise in blood glucose overnight. You go to bed with a BG of 100 mg/dL (5.6 mmol/L), and wake up with a BG of 130 (7.2)! You didn't eat, so what happened? This results from two distinctly different processes: Dawn Phenomenon and Somogyi Effect. Here are some basics. DAWN PHENOMENON Everyone, diabetic or not, exhibits some Dawn Phenomenon. It is a natural part of our bodies' circadian rhythms. Some have said it is the way our ancestors had the strength to rise and slay a wooly behemoth for breakfast. Since most of us fast while sleeping, with teenagers a possible exception, our bodies use stored energy during sleep. If you have read our Nutrition Section, you know that the body uses all three macro-nutrients (carbohydrates, proteins, and fats) to store energy. The most easily used is the storage medium of carbohydrates, called glycogen. Glycogen is made from glucose, and is stored in the liver and muscles. Since it is basically nothing more than a complex matrix of glucose, it is easy for the body to store and use, something the body does all day long. The technical term for the act of creating and storing glycogen is glycogenesis. When the body calls for the conversion of glycogen back to glucose it is called glycogenolysis. Another macro-nutrient that is available to be converted to glucose is protein. Most of us think of our protein as being stored in muscle, but the body has protective mechanisms to make muscle wasting its last choice. One of the most useful and readily available sources of protein storage is in blood components, i.e., albumin (plasma). The body uses a process performed in the liver to convert amino acids, the building blocks of proteins, into glucose. The name for this process is gluconeogenesis, literally " the creation of new glucose " . So, what does all this have to do with a high fasting BG? Overnight, usually between 4am and 11am, your body releases some hormones. These are Growth Hormone (GH) from the anterior pituitary gland, cortisol from the adrenal cortex, glucagon from your pancreatic alpha-cells, and epinephrine (adrenalin). These hormones cause an increase in insulin resistance, raising your BG. In addition, these hormones trigger glycogenolysis and gluconeogenesis, adding stored or new glucose to your bloodstream. Dawn Phenomenon, and its associated increase in insulin resistance, is the reason most diabetics are far more sensitive to carbs in the morning. Dealing with Dawn Phenomenon There are many ways of defeating Dawn Phenomenon. You will have to experiment with the following suggestions to see what works for you. 1. Try eating no food after dinner. This works for people whose Dawn Phenomenon isn't very strong. Basically, it lowers their baseline BG, so that when DP does hit them, the increase keeps them below a certain level, usually 120 (6.7). 2. Try eating a small snack of fat and protein before bed. Most find that a tablespoon of peanut butter, or some cheese and deli meat are effective. The theory here is that the slow-digesting fat and protein holds their BG high enough overnight to avoid Somogyi Effect (see below). 3. Eventually, you will learn how the two disparate approaches above work for you. Hopefully, you will set personal targets to guide you, eg., if my BG is below XXX (insert your target here), I need a snack. If my BG is over XXX, I don't need a snack. 4. Lastly, the prescription medication Metformin HCl (Glucophage) is often very effective in limiting Dawn Phenomenon for Type-2s and insulin resistant Type-1s. Of course, Type-1s can adjust their basal (slow) insulin regimen to account for Dawn Phenomenon. 5. Lastly, EAT BREAKFAST. The resulting increase in blood glucose from food will often turn off the continued rise. If you don't, some diabetics will continue to rise until 10-11 am. SOMOGYI EFFECT Somogyi Effect, named for Dr. Somogyi, its discoverer, is a high morning BG due to a low overnight. It is most commonly seen with insulin using diabetics, but is also seen with overnight reactive hypoglycemics. The mechanism is a low overnight, which causes the body to react by releasing many of the same hormones seen in DP. The strongest blood glucose increasing hormone, glucagon, plays an important role. It tells your liver to start glycogenolysis and gluconeogenesis to provide enough glucose for your body to survive. This is sometimes referred to as a Liver Dump. Often, this mechanism over-produces, and you wake to a significantly higher BG. Setting your bedtime BG target a bit higher, will usually prevent you from having a hypoglycemic event overnight. Back Next Copyright © 2004 Diabetic-Talk.Org All rights reserved " -- F. in Atlanta, GA 330/262/145 " Uneducated people do what they are told... Educated people question what they are told. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Fritcher wrote: Thanks so much , this is exactly the knowledge I needed. --------------------------------- Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 It could be when you Take your meds, or Insulin that make a difference for you, or just that your BG naturally runs highest in the Morning. ~~Tina~~ -- testing Can anyone tell my why my fasting rate is higher than 2 hrs. after dinner rate. I don't normally snack after dinner, but in the morning before breakfast the rate is always about 1 or so points higher than 2 hrs after the meal and even just before sleep rate. I thought fasting rate should be lower??? Thanks, Maureen --------------------------------- Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not recieved them back, so just a test sugar 'People will forget what you said... People will forget what you did.... But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' ~Hugs, Sugar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 did you pass the test? Smile! testing Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not recieved them back, so just a test sugar 'People will forget what you said... People will forget what you did.... But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' ~Hugs, Sugar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 That test went through but it has been kind of quiet. That's OK, I am not having a very good week. Lora testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Pretty much the norm for the traffic to be off and on. , don't get down when you aren't maintaining good control for a period of time. Complications of diabetes are very patient in accomplishing their deeds. If you're hard on yourself, it won't help at all. It's a good sign you're willing to admit to your struggles. We all struggle, BTW. There's a brighter day coming! Dave From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Lora Leggett Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:16 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: testing That test went through but it has been kind of quiet. That's OK, I am not having a very good week. Lora testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 well as you know the neighborhood pig hasn’t been on the ramble of late? got a mighty fine excuse do I got. the hard drive crashed and now instead of xp, I now got windows seven with live mail. nothing like outlook express and it is eating my pig lunch at this time. can’t email any of my list and very few indaviduals. have to reply to post like this for them to go through. MR. Dave is so right about to morrow is a new day. I think we all fall off the wagon and give in to a all around bad day, but don’t lose heart. the sun will come up to morrow and start a new day. don’t spend any time beatting your self up for being a human. I finally realized after many weeks of not losing pounds that it was simply because I was eating to much food in one day. the exercise was fine, but to much food at any meal will add up. so I admitted the problem was mine to deal with and I fixed the issue. years ago I would have sit upon the pity pot for months beatting my self up and never doing anything to change the problem. just picked my pig self back up, dusted my self off and started doing it right again. I know for a fact that real success is made up of piles of mistakes and failures. not every day can be perfect or we would never learn how to appreciate them. we got to have bad days so we can appreciate the good one’s. I now can look back on my many days of falling off the wagon and realize that on those days I tried my best to eat everything in the house. it seemed like the more I ate, the more I had to eat. I think it falls under the heading of emotions and our attitude of that day we fall. the trick is to not allow more then one day to tie it self to another like it. just tell your self you had a bad day all the way around and to morrow starts a new day with a different attitude. yesterday is history and made to look back on and see the mistakes and learn from them. I emmbrace my mistakes of yesterday’s gone bad, because they are the things that will make to day a success. I know all this to be true in my case because I lived for many years with over eating issues when my emotions were messed up. I thank God that a day is only 24 hours and then we start over with a brand new day. I’m still in the 280’s and have been since the first part of June. Haven’t went pass the mark of 289, but haven’t got under the mark of 280 yet. sugars have been grate! since I started my Lantus a week back I have only needed to use only 5 units one time. I only take it at bed time and only once my bed time sugar was 115. the rest of the time it is 100 or lower. they told me if it was less then 130 at bed time, then take less then ten units or my sugar could go to low over night. I know my bed time sugars have been grate because of the no where bike and not allowing my pig self to continue more then one day of eating the house down around me. I’m like an old cow that is out in the pasture trying to eat all the grass in a square mile in one day. once I start a grase, well I will continue the grase until my sugar level tells me it is way to high and I best stop the mindless disstruction. there is of course a price to pay for us who are a T 2 when we try to grase like the old cow. I have to skip the next meal and drink water and ride my no where bike twice as long. then my bed time sugar will be where it needs to be, but the worse part of it all is the way the high sugar level will cause me to feel. You would think that the memory of this would keep me from eating things I shouldn’t on the bad days that seem to get hold of me from time to time. well I suppose my memory isn’t as good as it should be or I simply don’t belive it will happen to me again. of course this is silly thinking and sticking my pig head in the sand. it does happen again and I hate the way high sugar makes me feel. they are much fewer then they use to be, but on day’s like you do have as all humans do have, it takes over good sense and I give in to my pity pot sitting for that day. I’m so sorry you have had a bad day and I certainly can relate to it. you just hold your head up and don’t forget you are just being normal! it is a normal human trate for a fact. our spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. some times I think we humans are doing what we can to live a healthier life and control the way we eat, I think we need one day each month to try to eat the house down around us. kind of gets it out of our system for that month. the only bad thing is dealing with high sugar because of it, but high sugar levels can be brought down and back under control if we only try and do right. some times I have to tell who ever is listening, that it is hell to be blind! I have these moments when I simply feel blinder then other day’s. well I think the same thing can be said for being a human being. sorry for the long ramble, but no only how to ramble. do have a blessed day and know you and others like you are always in my Prayers. From: Bond Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 9:57 PM To: blind-diabetics Subject: RE: testing Pretty much the norm for the traffic to be off and on. , don't get down when you aren't maintaining good control for a period of time. Complications of diabetes are very patient in accomplishing their deeds. If you're hard on yourself, it won't help at all. It's a good sign you're willing to admit to your struggles. We all struggle, BTW. There's a brighter day coming! Dave From: mailto:blind-diabetics%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:blind-diabetics%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lora Leggett Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:16 PM To: mailto:blind-diabetics%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: testing That test went through but it has been kind of quiet. That's OK, I am not having a very good week. Lora testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hi Mark, I still having trouble doing my sugar so someone is helping me.. I don't do it everyday, but yester it was 148. Better than 160 or the 180. Still having trouble drawing blood to the fingers. Can't wait to learn this. Tried last night but can't seem to get the hang of it on my own. Becky testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 thanks to you big brother thanks mi bello hermano 'People will forget what you said... People will forget what you did.... But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' ~Hugs, Sugar testing Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not recieved them back, so just a test sugar 'People will forget what you said... People will forget what you did.... But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' ~Hugs, Sugar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 It was good to hear a good rmable from you, I was having ramble withdrawal. LOL. Well, I got on the scale and it said 160.6 which is one of the lowest weight readings I have ever had. Which proves that a lot of walking and exercise will make sure that does not go up. But my sugar readings are ho-hum and I have the same trouble as Becky where I am not getting a large enough sample. My new meter tells me that it does not have a large enough sample. It is a Prodigy No Code meter. My Voice has the history and date and stuff but I cannot get a correlation between the meters because whenever one gives me a good reading, the other says Low or Not enough of a sample. Oh well. Lora testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Bella ragazza! testing Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not recieved them back, so just a test sugar 'People will forget what you said... People will forget what you did.... But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' ~Hugs, Sugar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 funny thing about testing. I use to test maybe once a week if that much and really didn’t care if my sugar was high or not. easier to ignore it and go on with living how I wished to live. well you see where that kind of thinking got me? now for six months I have tested at least six times every day. I now always know where my sugar level is all day long. my meter and I finally sat down and got to know one another in a personnal way. my fingers were ten kinds of sore at first, but now not much sorness. I will have trouble getting blood from all my fingers, but the little finger will give up the blood real easy! so easy that this is the finger I will use the most and it will get sore if you continue using the same finger. I do know a lady who has just started poking her finger to check her sugar and she too is having trouble getting the blood on the strip. I think this is no different then riding a bike. you just continue to practice until one day it isn’t hard to do any more. strips are costly though, so tell your doc that you need to test eight times a day until you can do it right every time. tell him the trouble you are having and he should write it down for as many as you need in a day. when I poke my fingers on my right hand, I take my finger to the end of the strip, but if I use a finger on my left hand, I will take the strip to the end of the finger. either way will work. I set my poker on high because I hate to hit it over and over to get blood. this will hurt for just a moment, but most of the time you will get enough blood for a good test. now, of course no 2 or 3 readings will agree. you can get a low reading if there is enough blood and you know by the way you are feeling if this is wrong. the prodigy won’t tell you if there isn’t enough blood to test correctly. no such thing as the perfect meter. warm hands do give up blood easier, so get some of those hand warmers that folks carry around in there coat pockets in the winter to warm there hands. grip one in the hand you will be poking for a few minutes. then will help to warm up the hand and fingers. running warm water over the hands and fingers will also work. my hands stay cold because of the blood thinners I’m on, but most of the time I do get blood easy when my fingers are warmed up a bit. just hang in there and keep on keeping on. practice, practice and more practice is exactly what it will take to make you an old pro in time. it is very important to your health to always know during each day where your sugar level is and poking the finger with a needle is the way we do it now day’s. it really will get easier after a while. I know this is so because I had to as well fight my meter at first and it was getting the best of me. stomping on it or throwing it in a tub of water did come to mind in the beginning. I even thought to bake it in the oven a few times thinking it would change the attitude it had. well I never baked it or took it for a swim. now if I’m feeling out of sorts, I run for my meter to see where my sugar is. it really is my best friend like Dave and Pat said it would become. I really do hate to give the old timers on the list to much credit for being right, because I know the praise will cause the head to grow larger. however there are those times when we must give credit where credit is due! From: Becky McCullough Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:10 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: testing Hi Mark, I still having trouble doing my sugar so someone is helping me.. I don't do it everyday, but yester it was 148. Better than 160 or the 180. Still having trouble drawing blood to the fingers. Can't wait to learn this. Tried last night but can't seem to get the hang of it on my own. Becky testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Mark is right on with this. It wasn’t but a couple of months ago when I was posting about having the same issues with getting enough blood. Fast forward to now, and thankfully, it’s so much easier. I think part of the problem was nervousness when trying to get the sample which made things worse and I had to poke myself several times and waste many strips due to not enough blood. Now that I’m relaxed about it, it just works and I usually get a reading on the first try. Like Mark mentioned, cold fingers will cause a problem so if this is the case, run your hands under hot water, as hot as you can stand it for a bit. This will get the blood to your fingers. I also milk my finger before poking, and then after the poke, I give that finger another 2 or 3 squeezes before placing the tip of the strip on the spot. One thing I don’t get however is how folks use both sides of their fingers. So far I have only been able to use one side, the side facing up toward you. Trying to use the side facing down seems to be a challenge because of the awkward position. Best, Rick From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf Of Mark Ruth Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:12 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: testing funny thing about testing. I use to test maybe once a week if that much and really didn’t care if my sugar was high or not. easier to ignore it and go on with living how I wished to live. well you see where that kind of thinking got me? now for six months I have tested at least six times every day. I now always know where my sugar level is all day long. my meter and I finally sat down and got to know one another in a personnal way. my fingers were ten kinds of sore at first, but now not much sorness. I will have trouble getting blood from all my fingers, but the little finger will give up the blood real easy! so easy that this is the finger I will use the most and it will get sore if you continue using the same finger. I do know a lady who has just started poking her finger to check her sugar and she too is having trouble getting the blood on the strip. I think this is no different then riding a bike. you just continue to practice until one day it isn’t hard to do any more. strips are costly though, so tell your doc that you need to test eight times a day until you can do it right every time. tell him the trouble you are having and he should write it down for as many as you need in a day. when I poke my fingers on my right hand, I take my finger to the end of the strip, but if I use a finger on my left hand, I will take the strip to the end of the finger. either way will work. I set my poker on high because I hate to hit it over and over to get blood. this will hurt for just a moment, but most of the time you will get enough blood for a good test. now, of course no 2 or 3 readings will agree. you can get a low reading if there is enough blood and you know by the way you are feeling if this is wrong. the prodigy won’t tell you if there isn’t enough blood to test correctly. no such thing as the perfect meter. warm hands do give up blood easier, so get some of those hand warmers that folks carry around in there coat pockets in the winter to warm there hands. grip one in the hand you will be poking for a few minutes. then will help to warm up the hand and fingers. running warm water over the hands and fingers will also work. my hands stay cold because of the blood thinners I’m on, but most of the time I do get blood easy when my fingers are warmed up a bit. just hang in there and keep on keeping on. practice, practice and more practice is exactly what it will take to make you an old pro in time. it is very important to your health to always know during each day where your sugar level is and poking the finger with a needle is the way we do it now day’s. it really will get easier after a while. I know this is so because I had to as well fight my meter at first and it was getting the best of me. stomping on it or throwing it in a tub of water did come to mind in the beginning. I even thought to bake it in the oven a few times thinking it would change the attitude it had. well I never baked it or took it for a swim. now if I’m feeling out of sorts, I run for my meter to see where my sugar is. it really is my best friend like Dave and Pat said it would become. I really do hate to give the old timers on the list to much credit for being right, because I know the praise will cause the head to grow larger. however there are those times when we must give credit where credit is due! From: Becky McCullough Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:10 AM To: blind-diabetics <mailto:blind-diabetics%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: testing Hi Mark, I still having trouble doing my sugar so someone is helping me.. I don't do it everyday, but yester it was 148. Better than 160 or the 180. Still having trouble drawing blood to the fingers. Can't wait to learn this. Tried last night but can't seem to get the hang of it on my own. Becky testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Becky, and others, AS Mark, and , have pointed out, like riding a bike (if you’ve ever done it!) requires falling off a few times and getting back on. One of the best ways to help motivate yourself is to think of the benefit of knowing exactly where your blood sugar is at any given moment. It’s important to remember, blood sugars in a diabetic are not constant. With a type 2, which I think you are, they do tend to be somewhat more stable, but they’re nonetheless, often on the move. Keep checking and find a way that works for you. It might be on the sides of your fingers, or on one side, or only on certain fingers. You may have to prick once, or a couple times. I’ve pricked a finger as many as 6 or 7 times in an attempt to get blood! My motivation comes from my utter dependence on my meter, because without knowing where my blood sugar is, I am a sailing ship in the middle of the ocean, in a dead calm, with no sail! Hang in there! Dave ~~ Fiction for the mind, body, and soul. ~~ Visit the web site of <http://www.authordavidbond.com/> Inspirational Fiction Author Bond and watch for upcoming books! From: blind-diabetics [mailto:blind-diabetics ] On Behalf of Becky McCullough Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:11 AM To: blind-diabetics Subject: Re: testing Hi Mark, I still having trouble doing my sugar so someone is helping me.. I don't do it everyday, but yester it was 148. Better than 160 or the 180. Still having trouble drawing blood to the fingers. Can't wait to learn this. Tried last night but can't seem to get the hang of it on my own. Becky testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hi List, I'll try again later today. Just ate, so I'd better let that settle. Becky testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 That is true. I'll admit I almost gave up, but the person helping me is diabetic too. Listening to you all, the meeter is a good friend. Becky testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Thanks for the encouragement, Rick. I hope I get it down soon because it is so frustrating. Lora testing > Hi just testing my e mail, I've posted a few things here, but have not > recieved them back, so just a test > sugar > > 'People will forget what you said... > People will forget what you did.... > But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.' > ~Hugs, Sugar > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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