Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Dave,This backs what a couple of the Dr.'s at the NIH were saying when they weren't certain that we even had a correct name and understanding of the PSC/UC disease in PSC. That perhaps it was it's own different disease process.LeeIt has long been known that PSC is associated with certain genetic variants of the major histocompatibility complex human leukocyte antigen (HLA) class II region. But since UC susceptibility is also associated with genetic variants in this region, it's not known whether the PSC gene variants are distinct from those associated with UC alone. This study concludes that they are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Just curious, since I can't remember, but is there a different progression etc...between psc/uc and just plain old psc. Joan--Mom of 20 psc asymptomatic -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of leedeubertSent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:12 PMTo: Subject: Re: HLA gene differences between PSC/UC versus UC alone Dave, This backs what a couple of the Dr.'s at the NIH were saying when they weren't certain that we even had a correct name and understanding of the PSC/UC disease in PSC. That perhaps it was it's own different disease process. Lee It has long been known that PSC is associated with certain genetic variants of the major histocompatibility complex human leukocyte antigen (HLA) class II region. But since UC susceptibility is also associated with genetic variants in this region, it's not known whether the PSC gene variants are distinct from those associated with UC alone. This study concludes that they are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Hi Joan; I haven't been able to find much evidence that PSC progresses differently in PSC patients with and without IBD. This was most recently discussed by Broome and Bergquist: Broome U, Bergquist A. Primary sclerosing cholangitis, inflammatory bowel disease, and colon cancer. Semin Liver Dis. 2006 Feb;26(1):31- 41. http://home.insightbb.com/~rhodesdavid/BroomeU2006.pdf Comparisons between PSC Patients with and without IBD " In a study of liver biopsies and autopsy specimens from 43 PSC patients with and without UC and 19 UC patients with abnormal liver function tests but normal cholangiograms, Ludwig et al33 found essentially the same morphological features when PSC was or was not associated with UC. MacCarty34 et al could not find any differences between radiological features in PSC patients with and without IBD. However, Rabinovitz et al,35 who investigated patients with advanced PSC, found that there were significant differences between PSC patients with and without IBD. Patients with PSC and IBD were more likely to be male and to present with abnormal liver function as the first manifestation of the liver disease, whereas jaundice, pruritus, and fatigue were the primary symptoms in those patients without IBD. This finding may well reflect the fact that most UC patients today are screened regularly using liver function tests, and PSC in patients with IBD is therefore diagnosed before the onset of liver- related symptoms. Furthermore, Rabinovitz et al35 showed that the location of the bile duct involvement in PSC differed significantly between the two groups. Combined intrahepatic and extrahepatic bile duct strictures were found more frequently in patients with IBD than in those without IBD (82 versus 46%). In contrast, involvement of the extrahepatic bile ducts alone was more frequent in patients without IBD (38 versus 7%). Among 305 Swedish PSC patients, no difference between patients with and without IBD could be found.10 At present, we have insufficient data to conclude that PSC occurring in patients without IBD is an entity separate from PSC found in association with IBD. " Best regards, Dave (father of (21); PSC 07/03; UC 08/03) > > Just curious, since I can't remember, but is there a different progression etc...between psc/uc and just plain old psc. > Joan--Mom of 20 psc asymptomatic > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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