Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Dear PSC Partners, Last week an ERCP to place a permanent stent in Joe’s bile duct was successful. However, this did not resolve Joe’s jaundice. He became severely dehydrated at home and had to be re-hospitalized. It was discovered that the tumors had occluded the ducts, progressed to his lymph nodes and into the abdominal cavity. The four chemotherapy treatments he had endured had done nothing except make Joe feel sicker. He is a trouper yet! He says he will still beat this cancer. Last night the medical team told us that it was time to take Joe home, control his pain, provide comfort, palliative care and the love of his family and say our goodbyes, that there is nothing else that can be done for him. This we cannot accept. We are trying to get him another appointment to MD ’s Cancer Clinic ASAP, but they probably won’t be able to fit him in until next week. Today Joe will be discharged from the hospital to his home. We are all going to stay by his side and keep trying to save his life. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Sorry to hear this news about Joe. I get depressed whenever I hear news like this especially when one is so young. And I always wonder with all the tests people with PSC are constantly going through on a regular basis, how is it possible that cancers are found when they have progressed so much. My heart goes out to you, Joe and your family.It is good to have the spirit that you both have and with God everything is possible so never give up hope. Rita (Florida) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Chris-I am sorry to hear of this news-it makes me sad, but am glad to hear of the spirit and positive attitude each of you have taken. My prayers are with you, Joe and your family at this time. May you each find the the peace, patience, comfort and guidance you each need as you struggle and support each other. Brother , 30, UC & PSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Chris: May the grace of God be with you and Joe and the family. Miracles do happen and I hope one is coming Joe's way. Hugs, Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 > > Last night the medical team told us that it was time to take Joe home, control his pain, provide comfort, palliative care and the love of his family and say our goodbyes, that there is nothing else that can be done for him. This we cannot accept. I don't post often, but read daily. I am so sorry to hear about Joe. I'm glad you are going to look for other doctors - as someone in another post said " miracles do happen " . My sis-in-law was told she had 6 mos. to live after being dx. with cancer. That was unacceptable to her and kept looking for a doctor who could help her (and she did). That was 15 years ago and she is healthy as a horse. I, as the rest of us on the site, will keep you, Joe and the family in our prayers. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Dear Our thoughts are with you, Joe and your family. He sounds like a real fighter, and may you all find deep strength to contend with his illness. Martha (MA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 What a devastating message from the doctors. I'm glad that Joe and you have the courage to continue to fight. I hope that you can get an appointment ASAP at M.D. . I'm sending you my prayers and best wishes. Continue thinking positively. There is always a ray of hope to cling to....Thinking of you and sending positive hopeful vibes your way. Ricky >He became severely dehydrated at home and had to be re-hospitalized. It >was discovered that the tumors had occluded the ducts, progressed to his >lymph nodes and into the abdominal cavity. . > >Chris > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Have you heard of a book called " Love, Medicine and Miracles " by Dr. Bernie Siegel? My G.P. told me about it after I complained about having to take a lot of medication. I felt that having to take medication makes that I think about my health problems too often. My G.P. told me that I should try to change my attitude towards being happy that I am in the opportunity to take medication to help me with my health problems. My G.P. recommended I read the abovementioned book. Bernie Siegel is an oncologist who tries to help patients cope with their illness with a positive attitude and " self empowerment " . The author documents many " miracles " in his book and I definitely recommend reading it. Regards, Chaim Boermeester, Israel. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of chrisgrace@... Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 4:40 PM To: Subject: update on joe Dear PSC Partners, Last week an ERCP to place a permanent stent in Joe’s bile duct was successful. However, this did not resolve Joe’s jaundice. He became severely dehydrated at home and had to be re-hospitalized. It was discovered that the tumors had occluded the ducts, progressed to his lymph nodes and into the abdominal cavity. The four chemotherapy treatments he had endured had done nothing except make Joe feel sicker. He is a trouper yet! He says he will still beat this cancer. Last night the medical team told us that it was time to take Joe home, control his pain, provide comfort, palliative care and the love of his family and say our goodbyes, that there is nothing else that can be done for him. This we cannot accept. We are trying to get him another appointment to MD ’s Cancer Clinic ASAP, but they probably won’t be able to fit him in until next week. Today Joe will be discharged from the hospital to his home. We are all going to stay by his side and keep trying to save his life. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Last week shared with us the very sad and devastating news that Joe's doctors had given him. I am so sorry for Joe and all of his family and friends. I have thought and thought about the words that wrote: " ...Last night the medical team told us that it was time to take Joe home, control his pain, provide comfort, palliative care and the love of his family and say our goodbyes, that there is nothing else that can be done for him. " If I could offer another perspective on these words. Sometimes when a disease has progressed to the point that medical treatments will not work and may make someone even sicker and prolong suffering, the hopes and goals for treatment and care do shift. This is a complex and emotional time. Yet, I deeply believe that as every one of us passes through our final phase of living, through our dying process, we can still fulfill hopes and dreams. We will still grow. Medically, providing comfort and symptom relief is ongoing. Managing pain and symptoms can be very challenging, but that is a first and foremost goal for palliative care. The goal is to have the individual feel as well as possible so that the quality of each day is as good as possible. The medical team will continue to provide support to the individual and the family so that all needs are met, including physical and emotional as well as helping with social and spiritual support. If these needs are not being met, the patient/family should speak up! When the doctor says that aggressive treatment is not going to benefit the patient or cure or slow the disease, and may actually cause more harm, the doctor is not saying that the situation is hopeless. Hope often changes from long-term goals towards short-term or spiritual goals. Hopes often include feeling valued, continuing meaningful relationships, validating memories, creating new memories, sharing humor. Hope may mean a pain-free day, feeling loved and secure, or knowing that important decisions are finalized, paperwork completed, etc. The ability to write important messages for family and friends or make a video can be so important. And for family and friends to be sure their loved one understands how influential they have been to others. To reflect on their contributions to their family, community and work. To know how others will keep their memory alive for children and grandchildren. To even hear seemingly silly comments like, " when .... happens I will always hear you say... " or what you will think about on special days. And the ability to care for our loved one as he or she goes through the dying process is a gift to both the loved one as well as the caregivers. Many people feel it was truly an honor to have been a part of providing care to their loved one as they finished their journey through this life. I apologize that this is long. I hope I did not offend anyone as I shared my thoughts. If anyone wanted an excellent book, " Handbook for Mortals: Guidance for People Facing Serious Illness " by Joanne Lynn, MD and Joan Harrold, MD, Oxford University Press, 1999. Joanne (, Ca) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 VERY WELL SAID...I FEEL EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOICE HOW THEY WANT TO PASS..JUST PLEASE HAVE EVERYTHING WRITTEN DOWN. FOR YOUR Dr's ,FAMILY AND FRIENDS.... REALLY THIS IS FOR ANYBODY NOT JUST THE PSC FOLKS.. I SAW A SHOW ON TV ABOUT DIEING, AND HOW DIFFERENT FAMILY'S HANDLE IT. ONE LADY HAD CANCER AND HER WISH WAS TO HAVE ALL HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS COME OVER FOR A SAYING GOOD PARTY AND TALK AND REMEMBER THE GOOD TIMES THE LADY PASSED ON SHORTLY AFTER THE PARTY BUT SHE WAS VERY GLAD SHE HAD THE TIME WITH THEM ALL..... I HOPE I HAVENT UPSET ANYBODY WITH MY REPLY. JEANNE P.S. MY WISH IS TO HAVE A PARTY AND DANCE. THEN I'M DONATING MY WHOLE BODY TO THE UofM HOSPITAL FOR MEDICAL RESEARCH...jmhatch39 wrote: Last week shared with us the very sad and devastating news thatJoe's doctors had given him. I am so sorry for Joe and all of hisfamily and friends. I have thought and thought about the words that wrote:"...Last night the medical team told us that it was time to take Joehome, control his pain, provide comfort, palliative care and thelove of his family and say our goodbyes, that there is nothing elsethat can be done for him." If I could offer another perspective on these words. Sometimes when adisease has progressed to the point that medical treatments will notwork and may make someone even sicker and prolong suffering, the hopesand goals for treatment and care do shift. This is a complex andemotional time. Yet, I deeply believe that as every one of us passesthrough our final phase of living, through our dying process, we canstill fulfill hopes and dreams. We will still grow. Medically, providing comfort and symptom relief is ongoing. Managingpain and symptoms can be very challenging, but that is a first andforemost goal for palliative care. The goal is to have the individualfeel as well as possible so that the quality of each day is as good aspossible. The medical team will continue to provide support to theindividual and the family so that all needs are met, includingphysical and emotional as well as helping with social and spiritualsupport. If these needs are not being met, the patient/family shouldspeak up!When the doctor says that aggressive treatment is not going to benefitthe patient or cure or slow the disease, and may actually cause moreharm, the doctor is not saying that the situation is hopeless. Hope often changes from long-term goals towards short-term or spiritualgoals. Hopes often include feeling valued, continuing meaningfulrelationships, validating memories, creating new memories, sharinghumor. Hope may mean a pain-free day, feeling loved and secure, orknowing that important decisions are finalized, paperwork completed,etc. The ability to write important messages for family and friends or makea video can be so important. And for family and friends to be suretheir loved one understands how influential they have been to others.To reflect on their contributions to their family, community andwork. To know how others will keep their memory alive for childrenand grandchildren. To even hear seemingly silly comments like, "when... happens I will always hear you say..." or what you will thinkabout on special days.And the ability to care for our loved one as he or she goes throughthe dying process is a gift to both the loved one as well as thecaregivers. Many people feel it was truly an honor to have been apart of providing care to their loved one as they finished theirjourney through this life. I apologize that this is long. I hope I did not offend anyone as Ishared my thoughts. If anyone wanted an excellent book, "Handbook forMortals: Guidance for People Facing Serious Illness" by Joanne Lynn,MD and Joan Harrold, MD, Oxford University Press, 1999.Joanne (, Ca) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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