Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 This is for the people who have liquid o2 resevoirs in their cars. Do you own them? Does the O2 supplier lend them to you? How does it work? I did contact my o2 company--Lincare--and they said they would look into it. My marathon has been working out for me. Although at the ballgame on Friday, it ran out of o2 and i used 3 of the M6 tanks. when they delivered the large liquid resevoir yesterday, i asked about getting replacement M6's. They want to charge me for them now. Because now that I am on medicare, i had to choose between liquid and the M6 tanks (compressed air?). so for now i am using liquid, but i worry about leaving the house for a full day and running out of liquid in the marathon. I vary the settings from demand 2 when sitting to continuous 4 when walking. of course the higher the setting, the faster the o2 gets used up. right now, this has me upset. before i used the liquid and when it ran out i switched to the compressed air for the duration of the outing. lincare said that if i use the compressed air, they will supply me with as many tanks as neeeded. that would mean carrying lots of tanks with me when i go out since they only last about 2 1/2 hours each. then suppose i go visit my daughter who lives in New York for a day? they want two weeks notice for an overnight. there goes the spontanaety (spelling?) of a visit to my daughter. It's a 2-3 hour drive one way depending on traffic. i need to vent. thanks for listening.Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennslvania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Pink The Liberator 10 is manufactured by Caire and many suppliers only carry Puritan- products. Unfortunately, the smallest Puritan- makes is 21 liters so double the size and weighs 49 pounds empty and 94 filled. It still rides fine in a vehicle and it is what is generally supplied by oxygen companies for travel. > > Hi everybody > I called my O2 supplier about the liberator 10 and portable resevoirs. They don't know about them. so does anyone know who manufactures the Liberator 10 or any other portable liquid O2 reseviors? > > thanks > > Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennslvania > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Joyce, I don't know what they are thinking.. You need tanks for back-up. Do you have a gap policy?if so call and tell them you need a backup system when you go out. Be sure to stress if you have a problem while out you will have to call an Ambulance because you won't be able to breathe.I now use e-tanks on the cart. I'm so used to pulling that thing now it isn't a problem anymore.We do carry quite a few tanks in the trunk. If I am active at ALL I use one an hour. It is just sostrange to even think that could be because at home I use none or very little sitting. 5 to 6 for just getting around then 8 for showering and cleaning, walking. I have 24 e tanks and 12 or so little ones. I think they are B's. Now if I could find a cannula that doesn't make me crazy. The higher flow is soooo loudwith the small nose prongs. The high flow's are hard and heavy. Oh well I guess thatsenough complaining for today.Oh yes you can get Lincare to call by your daughter and they should have supplies delivered there for you.I do that when I go to Tampa. Not a problem with a day before call. try it. Love & Prayers, PeggyFlorida, IPF/UIP 2004"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." This is for the people who have liquid o2 resevoirs in their cars. Do you own them? Does the O2 supplier lend them to you? How does it work? I did contact my o2 company--Lincare--and they said they would look into it. My marathon has been working out for me. Although at the ballgame on Friday, it ran out of o2 and i used 3 of the M6 tanks. when they delivered the large liquid resevoir yesterday, i asked about getting replacement M6's. They want to charge me for them now. Because now that I am on medicare, i had to choose between liquid and the M6 tanks (compressed air?). so for now i am using liquid, but i worry about leaving the house for a full day and running out of liquid in the marathon. I vary the settings from demand 2 when sitting to continuous 4 when walking. of course the higher the setting, the faster the o2 gets used up. right now, this has me upset. before i used the liquid and when it ran out i switched to the compressed air for the duration of the outing. lincare said that if i use the compressed air, they will supply me with as many tanks as neeeded. that would mean carrying lots of tanks with me when i go out since they only last about 2 1/2 hours each. then suppose i go visit my daughter who lives in New York for a day? they want two weeks notice for an overnight. there goes the spontanaety (spelling?) of a visit to my daughter. It's a 2-3 hour drive one way depending on traffic. i need to vent. thanks for listening.Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennslvania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Pink You have reason to vent and I've been there as well. Ok, now the having to make choice and having no backup they blame on medicare is false. They will not get extra for supplying you backup and that part is true, but they should supply what you need. That means either backup with compressed or two Marathons. As to travel, their requirement of two weeks notice is also absurd (Apria in this area wants a month...so worse). I do believe if you talk to them that they can do better. My supplier can always deliver a 50 pound reservoir for my car on my regular delivery day. So, all I really have to decide is before my delivery day. They have also delivered on other days. The one time I decided at very last minute, I called them, drove by their place on my way out of town, and they put one in my car. Now, I recently have had a 50 pound reservoir from my oxygen supplier in my van for several weeks. Because I wanted something of my own for the short trips, however, I just purchased about an hour ago a used Liberator 10. It's less than 2 years old and I paid $225 so felt it was worth just having. I'll use it for short trips and get a 50 from them for long trips. As to them saying they don't have a Liberator 10, I do know that Lincare is primarily Puritan- but they can get Caire products (are a customer of Caire). Now, they may not have a Liberator 10 sitting around, but they can order one. I'm sure they don't want to pay for a new one though. Here's what I would suggest you do at this point. Schedule an appointment to talk to your local Lincare Manager (not the people you've probably been talking to). In person is even better if you can go there. Go nicely but explain your situation carefully and your needs. With you sitting across from him, knowing most managers, he's going to try to help you with solutions. Sounds like the simplest is back up compressed and being able to get a travel reservoir when needed. If not back up compressed, a backup Marathon. Even at worst case if you had to pay, which you shouldn't, for the second Marathon they should let you have it for around $35 per month which is about what insurers pay them. I think if you talk to a manager and explain your situation there's a good chance of things working. He may need some education as they are use to COPD patients and most of their customers don't have the same high needs under exertion we have. So start by begging for help. Now, if that doesn't work, may be time to demand. Note, when the bidding was underway here and I wanted to talk to Lincare just in case, the Manager here, who I did talk to face to face, was willing to let me have a reservoir for my vehicle full time. Every manager is different though. > > This is for the people who have liquid o2 resevoirs in their cars. Do you own them? Does the O2 supplier lend them to you? How does it work? > > I did contact my o2 company--Lincare--and they said they would look into it. > > My marathon has been working out for me. Although at the ballgame on Friday, it ran out of o2 and i used 3 of the M6 tanks. > > when they delivered the large liquid resevoir yesterday, i asked about getting replacement M6's. They want to charge me for them now. Because now that I am on medicare, i had to choose between liquid and the M6 tanks (compressed air?). > so for now i am using liquid, but i worry about leaving the house for a full day and running out of liquid in the marathon. I vary the settings from demand 2 when sitting to continuous 4 when walking. of course the higher the setting, the faster the o2 gets used up. > > right now, this has me upset. before i used the liquid and when it ran out i switched to the compressed air for the duration of the outing. > > lincare said that if i use the compressed air, they will supply me with as many tanks as neeeded. that would mean carrying lots of tanks with me when i go out since they only last about 2 1/2 hours each. > > then suppose i go visit my daughter who lives in New York for a day? they want two weeks notice for an overnight. there goes the spontanaety (spelling?) of a visit to my daughter. It's a 2-3 hour drive one way depending on traffic. > > i need to vent. thanks for listening. > > Pink Joyce IPF 3/06 Pennslvania > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest garryhughes Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 My father inlaw who recently past on bought one of these units with plans to travel with it but never got the chance to after purchasing a caire liberator 10 O2 portable Liquid Oxygen Reservoir from the factory. As it is a specialized item ive been having difficulty deciding where i should advertise this unit to sell as it is no use to us and would possibly be of benefit to someone in need of a smaller portable bottle to travel with. This unit is near new used for a couple of weeks only and still in near new condition. Worth 1400 from the factory i am asking 800 if anyone is interested in the USA contact Garry Hughes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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