Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Perfidious...great word, ! And perfectly applicable here. Well, the good thing about the DE as opposed to polymyalgia rheumatica...is that at least it doesn't hurt, smile. Vicki Re: Dawn phenomena revisited > In a message dated 7/31/2005 1:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > whimsy2@... writes: > >> My FBG tends to be extremely variable, despite the fact that my basal >> dose >> is the right >> one. I keep very good records, and I've learned that can go to bed >> with >> the same BG four times but my FBG the nex morning can vary widely. > > Nice report, Vicki. So that's the DE. Perfidious to say the least. > Interesting that it varies with position, horizontal or vertical. > > PMR (polymyalgia rheumatica), an autoimmune disease, can be like that. > Horizontal it can be very painful, vertical the pain reduces. Nobody > knows anything > about the disease, only how to treat it . . . with prednisone. > > However, after about 3 years, when the pain intensity of my PMR had > reduced, > l found that the pain could be eliminated by using a hormone cream. > Makes me > wonder how much DE is affected by hormones. > > BTW, I had negligible dawn effect when I tested a few years ago. It > may be > time to retest, but my FBG is usually between 75 and 85 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Perfidious...great word, ! And perfectly applicable here. Well, the good thing about the DE as opposed to polymyalgia rheumatica...is that at least it doesn't hurt, smile. Vicki Re: Dawn phenomena revisited > In a message dated 7/31/2005 1:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > whimsy2@... writes: > >> My FBG tends to be extremely variable, despite the fact that my basal >> dose >> is the right >> one. I keep very good records, and I've learned that can go to bed >> with >> the same BG four times but my FBG the nex morning can vary widely. > > Nice report, Vicki. So that's the DE. Perfidious to say the least. > Interesting that it varies with position, horizontal or vertical. > > PMR (polymyalgia rheumatica), an autoimmune disease, can be like that. > Horizontal it can be very painful, vertical the pain reduces. Nobody > knows anything > about the disease, only how to treat it . . . with prednisone. > > However, after about 3 years, when the pain intensity of my PMR had > reduced, > l found that the pain could be eliminated by using a hormone cream. > Makes me > wonder how much DE is affected by hormones. > > BTW, I had negligible dawn effect when I tested a few years ago. It > may be > time to retest, but my FBG is usually between 75 and 85 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Well I would have that " stroke " or " heart attack " because I never see such a huge rise in the morning & the startle factor alone would cause the reaction. My fbg is like between 75 to 85 & my standard routine has been controlling any morning rise so that it is entirely negligible. So for me to go from 80 to 120 would signal something very very wrong & completely beyond my normal everyday expectations. If it continued to happen every day, then I wqould know that the disease had progressed or changed somehow & I would simply find another routine to handle things (of course I might get a little cookoo till I found what worked tho <g>). Now if I am eating off plan for a planned excursion & I go high (over 120 or 140) then that is something I am expecting because of my food intake & I don't get upset, I just deal with it. cappie Greater Boston Area T-2 10/02 5/05 A1c: 5.3 = 111 mean glu 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin ALA/EPO, ALC, Vit C, Calc/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, Policosanol, fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, Lovastatin 40 mg/coQ10 100mg, Enalapril 10 mg 5/05:140 lbs (highest weight 309) 5' tall /age 67, cappie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Well I would have that " stroke " or " heart attack " because I never see such a huge rise in the morning & the startle factor alone would cause the reaction. My fbg is like between 75 to 85 & my standard routine has been controlling any morning rise so that it is entirely negligible. So for me to go from 80 to 120 would signal something very very wrong & completely beyond my normal everyday expectations. If it continued to happen every day, then I wqould know that the disease had progressed or changed somehow & I would simply find another routine to handle things (of course I might get a little cookoo till I found what worked tho <g>). Now if I am eating off plan for a planned excursion & I go high (over 120 or 140) then that is something I am expecting because of my food intake & I don't get upset, I just deal with it. cappie Greater Boston Area T-2 10/02 5/05 A1c: 5.3 = 111 mean glu 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin ALA/EPO, ALC, Vit C, Calc/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, Policosanol, fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, Lovastatin 40 mg/coQ10 100mg, Enalapril 10 mg 5/05:140 lbs (highest weight 309) 5' tall /age 67, cappie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Well I would have that " stroke " or " heart attack " because I never see such a huge rise in the morning & the startle factor alone would cause the reaction. My fbg is like between 75 to 85 & my standard routine has been controlling any morning rise so that it is entirely negligible. So for me to go from 80 to 120 would signal something very very wrong & completely beyond my normal everyday expectations. If it continued to happen every day, then I wqould know that the disease had progressed or changed somehow & I would simply find another routine to handle things (of course I might get a little cookoo till I found what worked tho <g>). Now if I am eating off plan for a planned excursion & I go high (over 120 or 140) then that is something I am expecting because of my food intake & I don't get upset, I just deal with it. cappie Greater Boston Area T-2 10/02 5/05 A1c: 5.3 = 111 mean glu 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin ALA/EPO, ALC, Vit C, Calc/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, Policosanol, fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, Lovastatin 40 mg/coQ10 100mg, Enalapril 10 mg 5/05:140 lbs (highest weight 309) 5' tall /age 67, cappie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Jumping in, here, about fasting blood glucose.....I had to have mine done last week, and I have to say surely there must be a better way to do this! I mean, it's barbaric to ask a sick person to drive to a lab without breakfast, sit and wait and wait and wait to give blood and hope you don't have to take any glucose tablets on the way home because the damn lab was crowded and you had to wait with nothing in your stomach. Any answers? Marilyn DEKEP@... wrote: In a message dated 7/31/2005 1:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, whimsy2@... writes: > My FBG tends to be extremely variable, despite the fact that my basal dose > is the right > one. I keep very good records, and I've learned that can go to bed with > the same BG four times but my FBG the nex morning can vary widely. Nice report, Vicki. So that's the DE. Perfidious to say the least. Interesting that it varies with position, horizontal or vertical. PMR (polymyalgia rheumatica), an autoimmune disease, can be like that. Horizontal it can be very painful, vertical the pain reduces. Nobody knows anything about the disease, only how to treat it . . . with prednisone. However, after about 3 years, when the pain intensity of my PMR had reduced, l found that the pain could be eliminated by using a hormone cream. Makes me wonder how much DE is affected by hormones. BTW, I had negligible dawn effect when I tested a few years ago. It may be time to retest, but my FBG is usually between 75 and 85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Jumping in, here, about fasting blood glucose.....I had to have mine done last week, and I have to say surely there must be a better way to do this! I mean, it's barbaric to ask a sick person to drive to a lab without breakfast, sit and wait and wait and wait to give blood and hope you don't have to take any glucose tablets on the way home because the damn lab was crowded and you had to wait with nothing in your stomach. Any answers? Marilyn DEKEP@... wrote: In a message dated 7/31/2005 1:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, whimsy2@... writes: > My FBG tends to be extremely variable, despite the fact that my basal dose > is the right > one. I keep very good records, and I've learned that can go to bed with > the same BG four times but my FBG the nex morning can vary widely. Nice report, Vicki. So that's the DE. Perfidious to say the least. Interesting that it varies with position, horizontal or vertical. PMR (polymyalgia rheumatica), an autoimmune disease, can be like that. Horizontal it can be very painful, vertical the pain reduces. Nobody knows anything about the disease, only how to treat it . . . with prednisone. However, after about 3 years, when the pain intensity of my PMR had reduced, l found that the pain could be eliminated by using a hormone cream. Makes me wonder how much DE is affected by hormones. BTW, I had negligible dawn effect when I tested a few years ago. It may be time to retest, but my FBG is usually between 75 and 85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Jumping in, here, about fasting blood glucose.....I had to have mine done last week, and I have to say surely there must be a better way to do this! I mean, it's barbaric to ask a sick person to drive to a lab without breakfast, sit and wait and wait and wait to give blood and hope you don't have to take any glucose tablets on the way home because the damn lab was crowded and you had to wait with nothing in your stomach. Any answers? Marilyn DEKEP@... wrote: In a message dated 7/31/2005 1:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, whimsy2@... writes: > My FBG tends to be extremely variable, despite the fact that my basal dose > is the right > one. I keep very good records, and I've learned that can go to bed with > the same BG four times but my FBG the nex morning can vary widely. Nice report, Vicki. So that's the DE. Perfidious to say the least. Interesting that it varies with position, horizontal or vertical. PMR (polymyalgia rheumatica), an autoimmune disease, can be like that. Horizontal it can be very painful, vertical the pain reduces. Nobody knows anything about the disease, only how to treat it . . . with prednisone. However, after about 3 years, when the pain intensity of my PMR had reduced, l found that the pain could be eliminated by using a hormone cream. Makes me wonder how much DE is affected by hormones. BTW, I had negligible dawn effect when I tested a few years ago. It may be time to retest, but my FBG is usually between 75 and 85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 > Jumping in, here, about fasting blood glucose.....I had to have mine done last week, and I have to say surely there must be a better way to do this! I mean, it's barbaric to ask a sick person to drive to a lab without breakfast, sit and wait and wait and wait to give blood and hope you don't have to take any glucose tablets on the way home because the damn lab was crowded and you had to wait with nothing in your stomach. Any answers? > Marilyn > My answer was to change labs. Cheers, Alan, T2 d & e, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 > Jumping in, here, about fasting blood glucose.....I had to have mine done last week, and I have to say surely there must be a better way to do this! I mean, it's barbaric to ask a sick person to drive to a lab without breakfast, sit and wait and wait and wait to give blood and hope you don't have to take any glucose tablets on the way home because the damn lab was crowded and you had to wait with nothing in your stomach. Any answers? > Marilyn > My answer was to change labs. Cheers, Alan, T2 d & e, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 I understand that! I think to imply that anyone could smooth out their numbers is just as wrong as saying anyone who is fat could slim down if they tried. B Van (Betty) > > In a message dated 7/31/2005 1:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > whimsy2@q... writes: > > > >> My FBG tends to be extremely variable, despite the fact that my basal > >> dose > >> is the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Marilyn wrote > Jumping in, here, about fasting blood glucose.....I had to have mine done > last week, and I have to say surely there must be a better way to do this! > I mean, it's barbaric to ask a sick person to drive to a lab without > breakfast, sit and wait and wait and wait to give blood and hope you don't > have to take any glucose tablets on the way home because the damn lab was > crowded and you had to wait with nothing in your stomach. Any answers? > > . In similar situations I take a snack with me. Usually a boiled egg, or a heartsmart sausage (low fat low salt, mod GL) Bea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Marilyn wrote > Jumping in, here, about fasting blood glucose.....I had to have mine done > last week, and I have to say surely there must be a better way to do this! > I mean, it's barbaric to ask a sick person to drive to a lab without > breakfast, sit and wait and wait and wait to give blood and hope you don't > have to take any glucose tablets on the way home because the damn lab was > crowded and you had to wait with nothing in your stomach. Any answers? > > . In similar situations I take a snack with me. Usually a boiled egg, or a heartsmart sausage (low fat low salt, mod GL) Bea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Marilyn wrote > Jumping in, here, about fasting blood glucose.....I had to have mine done > last week, and I have to say surely there must be a better way to do this! > I mean, it's barbaric to ask a sick person to drive to a lab without > breakfast, sit and wait and wait and wait to give blood and hope you don't > have to take any glucose tablets on the way home because the damn lab was > crowded and you had to wait with nothing in your stomach. Any answers? > > . In similar situations I take a snack with me. Usually a boiled egg, or a heartsmart sausage (low fat low salt, mod GL) Bea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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