Re: Wedding drama update... rageful angry

[Guest guest]

who is not in the wedding party that can be of assistance?  Should she start

misbehaving escort her out.  Worked at mine but I was married to a cop so they

were used to dealing with crazy people.  its your wedding day, please try not to

let her ruin it, chances are by the day she'll have changed her mind 100 times

about whether or not she's coming. 

[Guest guest]

Hi Tucket,

So sorry you are having to deal with this leading up to your wedding.

Unfortunately, based on my own experience, I wonder if things with her are going

to get better as your wedding approaches. It seems BPD nada's use major life

events such as weddings and funerals to bring out the worst in themselves,

finding these events a great stage to play out all of their drama. My nada

ruined every one of her children's weddings and my brother's funeral.

Thankfully, as I saw what was coming early on in my wedding planning, I decided

to do a small wedding far away from family with just my husband and I and it

turned out fantastic. To this day I am glad I changed my mind and went with my

gut and have many happy memories to show for it. Much better than the raging and

near passing out she did on the dance floor at my brother's wedding.

Sending good wishes for a happy wedding day your way!

Darcy

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am rageful angry right now and need to vent. Sorry in advance for my poor

attempt to mask my swear words.

>

> I was driving to work this morning and got a call from my dad who told me that

my nada has decided to come to my wedding. Really? This is news to me...last I

heard from my nada was last night when she sent me a nasty text message and

voice mail. I got through one line of the text before I realized it was cruel

and deleted that as well as the voice mail. How in the h*ll has she decided to

come to the wedding when she is still attacking the f-ing bride and groom!?!?!

My dad then proceeds to tell me that even though I reserved rooms for my family

in the moderately priced hotel room where my fiance and I are staying (I

requested that their rooms be far away from ours), my nada prefers to stay at

the f*ing four seasons in the next town!!! Now its all coming together for

me... " now that I know their is an f-ing 5 star hotel in this beautiful beachside

town, of course I will go...who cares if I am continuing to verbally abuse and

scar the bride and groom! " I can't f-ing believe this. She is going to show up

at my wedding without making any real effort to work things out with me and I am

too f-ing weak to tell her she can't come! My dad, who means well granted, is

telling me that I should try to be gratious to her and, get this, " go out of my

way " to make her feel good (ON MY F-ING WEDDING DAY!!!!!) so that she does not

act up. Sure, no f-ing problem!!!!!

>

> Needless to say, I was screaming by the time I got to work and had to pull

myself together quickly before walking in the door. Now I am sitting here with

all this rage and don't know what to do with it. I've been trying to set

boundaries and trying to be congruent with my emotions and actions and working

really freaking hard at all of this in therapy and every single day and she can

still destroy me without even lifting a finger. I feel so hopeless that I am

ever going to get myself out of this mess. I feel so weak right

now...ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! I wish I had soundproof walls so I could actually scream

right now.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tucket,

So sorry you are having to deal with this leading up to your wedding.

Unfortunately, based on my own experience, I wonder if things with her are going

to get better as your wedding approaches. It seems BPD nada's use major life

events such as weddings and funerals to bring out the worst in themselves,

finding these events a great stage to play out all of their drama. My nada

ruined every one of her children's weddings and my brother's funeral.

Thankfully, as I saw what was coming early on in my wedding planning, I decided

to do a small wedding far away from family with just my husband and I and it

turned out fantastic. To this day I am glad I changed my mind and went with my

gut and have many happy memories to show for it. Much better than the raging and

near passing out she did on the dance floor at my brother's wedding.

Sending good wishes for a happy wedding day your way!

Darcy

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am rageful angry right now and need to vent. Sorry in advance for my poor

attempt to mask my swear words.

>

> I was driving to work this morning and got a call from my dad who told me that

my nada has decided to come to my wedding. Really? This is news to me...last I

heard from my nada was last night when she sent me a nasty text message and

voice mail. I got through one line of the text before I realized it was cruel

and deleted that as well as the voice mail. How in the h*ll has she decided to

come to the wedding when she is still attacking the f-ing bride and groom!?!?!

My dad then proceeds to tell me that even though I reserved rooms for my family

in the moderately priced hotel room where my fiance and I are staying (I

requested that their rooms be far away from ours), my nada prefers to stay at

the f*ing four seasons in the next town!!! Now its all coming together for

me... " now that I know their is an f-ing 5 star hotel in this beautiful beachside

town, of course I will go...who cares if I am continuing to verbally abuse and

scar the bride and groom! " I can't f-ing believe this. She is going to show up

at my wedding without making any real effort to work things out with me and I am

too f-ing weak to tell her she can't come! My dad, who means well granted, is

telling me that I should try to be gratious to her and, get this, " go out of my

way " to make her feel good (ON MY F-ING WEDDING DAY!!!!!) so that she does not

act up. Sure, no f-ing problem!!!!!

>

> Needless to say, I was screaming by the time I got to work and had to pull

myself together quickly before walking in the door. Now I am sitting here with

all this rage and don't know what to do with it. I've been trying to set

boundaries and trying to be congruent with my emotions and actions and working

really freaking hard at all of this in therapy and every single day and she can

still destroy me without even lifting a finger. I feel so hopeless that I am

ever going to get myself out of this mess. I feel so weak right

now...ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! I wish I had soundproof walls so I could actually scream

right now.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tucket,

So sorry you are having to deal with this leading up to your wedding.

Unfortunately, based on my own experience, I wonder if things with her are going

to get better as your wedding approaches. It seems BPD nada's use major life

events such as weddings and funerals to bring out the worst in themselves,

finding these events a great stage to play out all of their drama. My nada

ruined every one of her children's weddings and my brother's funeral.

Thankfully, as I saw what was coming early on in my wedding planning, I decided

to do a small wedding far away from family with just my husband and I and it

turned out fantastic. To this day I am glad I changed my mind and went with my

gut and have many happy memories to show for it. Much better than the raging and

near passing out she did on the dance floor at my brother's wedding.

Sending good wishes for a happy wedding day your way!

Darcy

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am rageful angry right now and need to vent. Sorry in advance for my poor

attempt to mask my swear words.

>

> I was driving to work this morning and got a call from my dad who told me that

my nada has decided to come to my wedding. Really? This is news to me...last I

heard from my nada was last night when she sent me a nasty text message and

voice mail. I got through one line of the text before I realized it was cruel

and deleted that as well as the voice mail. How in the h*ll has she decided to

come to the wedding when she is still attacking the f-ing bride and groom!?!?!

My dad then proceeds to tell me that even though I reserved rooms for my family

in the moderately priced hotel room where my fiance and I are staying (I

requested that their rooms be far away from ours), my nada prefers to stay at

the f*ing four seasons in the next town!!! Now its all coming together for

me... " now that I know their is an f-ing 5 star hotel in this beautiful beachside

town, of course I will go...who cares if I am continuing to verbally abuse and

scar the bride and groom! " I can't f-ing believe this. She is going to show up

at my wedding without making any real effort to work things out with me and I am

too f-ing weak to tell her she can't come! My dad, who means well granted, is

telling me that I should try to be gratious to her and, get this, " go out of my

way " to make her feel good (ON MY F-ING WEDDING DAY!!!!!) so that she does not

act up. Sure, no f-ing problem!!!!!

>

> Needless to say, I was screaming by the time I got to work and had to pull

myself together quickly before walking in the door. Now I am sitting here with

all this rage and don't know what to do with it. I've been trying to set

boundaries and trying to be congruent with my emotions and actions and working

really freaking hard at all of this in therapy and every single day and she can

still destroy me without even lifting a finger. I feel so hopeless that I am

ever going to get myself out of this mess. I feel so weak right

now...ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! I wish I had soundproof walls so I could actually scream

right now.

>

[Guest guest]

You don't have to invite her.

You can tell her not to come.

This is your wedding. It's up to you.

Sveta

[Guest guest]

Tucket

I recently posted the following re a wedding in which my DIL was a

bridesmaid and my son was involved in music for friends. It seems the

brides Mom, and 2 aunts, Moms sisters, were all BPD. Check this out:

Among other things, Mother of the Bride said

This is all about me.

You ( DIL/bridesmaid) are not in charge around here, they ( MOB s

sisters) are.

Aunt said to Bride, just before slipping on dress, after all Bridesmaids

complimented her on her hair

" You wearing your hair like THAT? " and then, when bride was in tears,

Oh ,I was just playing, You take things too serious.

MOB, again, I ve been waiting for this day for a long time, dont you (

Bride! ) spoil it for me.

What are you doing touching that.? To father of groom for touching a

candle to get things moving when no one seemed to know what to do next.

MOB, made the BRIDE, ( excuse me?) take time out of getting ready to get

married, to do MOB ( or should I say Mada) s hair.

I don t blame you for your rage. Here this is YOUR special day, (

Congratulations, by the way!), and you are Walking on Eggshells about

your BPD mom. Wow, someone should write a book. But as we learn, the

successful strategies for dealing and living with Nada is not to play

her game.

Some possibilities for you:

Communicate with Dad and Nada, however you choose, text, call, certified

letter, that one does not simply " decide " to come to a wedding. One

is invited to a wedding. And sadly, as much as you would love to have a

normal set of parents to be at your wedding, that is not going to

happen. So, let them know quite clearly that they are not invited, and

will be turned away by the Groomsmen should they show up.

Hire an off duty cop to work your wedding, with one task. If she shows

her behind, he escorts it out.

Right now, she is in charge of how you feel, and how you will feel on

your Wedding day, ie so stressed about her drama you cannot enjoy it.

Or, call Dad back , or text him. Simply say, Dad, I don t see any

reason why I should go out of my way to be gracious in the forlorn hope

that she will behave herself and not ruin my wedding. I do not want her

there. Period. If she wants to stay at the 4 seasons, you guys have a

great time , and pay for it yourselves, of course.

But I am the bride here, and I do not want her at my wedding. I m not

going to go into all the details, as it upsets me, but I do not have to

justify who I want at my wedding because I AM THE BRIDE. If she shows

up, she will be turned away. If she tries to force her way in or make a

scene, people will keep her away from me and have her arrested if

necessary. I am quite serious about this Dad, tell her NOT to show up

at my wedding.

If it is too much for you, enlist your fiance to make the same contact

with Dad and make it clear, ( do not talk to nada, that is more drama,)

she is not to show up.

Doug

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am rageful angry right now and need to vent. Sorry in advance for my

poor attempt to mask my swear words.

>

> I was driving to work this morning and got a call from my dad who told

me that my nada has decided to come to my wedding. Really? This is news

to me...last I heard from my nada was last night when she sent me a

nasty text message and voice mail. I got through one line of the text

before I realized it was cruel and deleted that as well as the voice

mail. How in the h*ll has she decided to come to the wedding when she is

still attacking the f-ing bride and groom!?!?! My dad then proceeds to

tell me that even though I reserved rooms for my family in the

moderately priced hotel room where my fiance and I are staying (I

requested that their rooms be far away from ours), my nada prefers to

stay at the f*ing four seasons in the next town!!! Now its all coming

together for me... " now that I know their is an f-ing 5 star hotel in

this beautiful beachside town, of course I will go...who cares if I am

continuing to verbally abuse and scar the bride and groom! " I can't

f-ing believe this. She is going to show up at my wedding without making

any real effort to work things out with me and I am too f-ing weak to

tell her she can't come! My dad, who means well granted, is telling me

that I should try to be gratious to her and, get this, " go out of my

way " to make her feel good (ON MY F-ING WEDDING DAY!!!!!) so that she

does not act up. Sure, no f-ing problem!!!!!

>

> Needless to say, I was screaming by the time I got to work and had to

pull myself together quickly before walking in the door. Now I am

sitting here with all this rage and don't know what to do with it. I've

been trying to set boundaries and trying to be congruent with my

emotions and actions and working really freaking hard at all of this in

therapy and every single day and she can still destroy me without even

lifting a finger. I feel so hopeless that I am ever going to get myself

out of this mess. I feel so weak right now...ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! I wish I

had soundproof walls so I could actually scream right now.

>

[Guest guest]

Good one Doug. The rules have to be inflicted, and consequences will

arise if the rules are broken. It's not up for discussion either! No

compromising on Brides' Rules for the big day.

On my wedding day, my dad took over..........The day was all about him, how

wonderful he is, how interesting he is and how important he is; He killed

all my flowers by not putting them in water, he also played his chosen

music (I had my own selection which he ignored). Oh yeah, my nada didn't even

attend the wedding reception because " she was so tired " . At the

reception, my dad openly and blatently flirted with his best friends

wife.......hugging, dancing and kissing. Lovely really. How embarrased do you

think my

husband & I were???

MAKE THE RULES, STAND BY THE RULES, DON'T WAVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Laurie

In a message dated 4/27/2012 9:06:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

doug883@... writes:

Tucket

I recently posted the following re a wedding in which my DIL was a

bridesmaid and my son was involved in music for friends. It seems the

brides Mom, and 2 aunts, Moms sisters, were all BPD. Check this out:

Among other things, Mother of the Bride said

This is all about me.

You ( DIL/bridesmaid) are not in charge around here, they ( MOB s

sisters) are.

Aunt said to Bride, just before slipping on dress, after all Bridesmaids

complimented her on her hair

" You wearing your hair like THAT? " and then, when bride was in tears,

Oh ,I was just playing, You take things too serious.

MOB, again, I ve been waiting for this day for a long time, dont you (

Bride! ) spoil it for me.

What are you doing touching that.? To father of groom for touching a

candle to get things moving when no one seemed to know what to do next.

MOB, made the BRIDE, ( excuse me?) take time out of getting ready to get

married, to do MOB ( or should I say Mada) s hair.

I don t blame you for your rage. Here this is YOUR special day, (

Congratulations, by the way!), and you are Walking on Eggshells about

your BPD mom. Wow, someone should write a book. But as we learn, the

successful strategies for dealing and living with Nada is not to play

her game.

Some possibilities for you:

Communicate with Dad and Nada, however you choose, text, call, certified

letter, that one does not simply " decide " to come to a wedding. One

is invited to a wedding. And sadly, as much as you would love to have a

normal set of parents to be at your wedding, that is not going to

happen. So, let them know quite clearly that they are not invited, and

will be turned away by the Groomsmen should they show up.

Hire an off duty cop to work your wedding, with one task. If she shows

her behind, he escorts it out.

Right now, she is in charge of how you feel, and how you will feel on

your Wedding day, ie so stressed about her drama you cannot enjoy it.

Or, call Dad back , or text him. Simply say, Dad, I don t see any

reason why I should go out of my way to be gracious in the forlorn hope

that she will behave herself and not ruin my wedding. I do not want her

there. Period. If she wants to stay at the 4 seasons, you guys have a

great time , and pay for it yourselves, of course.

But I am the bride here, and I do not want her at my wedding. I m not

going to go into all the details, as it upsets me, but I do not have to

justify who I want at my wedding because I AM THE BRIDE. If she shows

up, she will be turned away. If she tries to force her way in or make a

scene, people will keep her away from me and have her arrested if

necessary. I am quite serious about this Dad, tell her NOT to show up

at my wedding.

If it is too much for you, enlist your fiance to make the same contact

with Dad and make it clear, ( do not talk to nada, that is more drama,)

she is not to show up.

Doug

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am rageful angry right now and need to vent. Sorry in advance for my

poor attempt to mask my swear words.

>

> I was driving to work this morning and got a call from my dad who told

me that my nada has decided to come to my wedding. Really? This is news

to me...last I heard from my nada was last night when she sent me a

nasty text message and voice mail. I got through one line of the text

before I realized it was cruel and deleted that as well as the voice

mail. How in the h*ll has she decided to come to the wedding when she is

still attacking the f-ing bride and groom!?!?! My dad then proceeds to

tell me that even though I reserved rooms for my family in the

moderately priced hotel room where my fiance and I are staying (I

requested that their rooms be far away from ours), my nada prefers to

stay at the f*ing four seasons in the next town!!! Now its all coming

together for me... " now that I know their is an f-ing 5 star hotel in

this beautiful beachside town, of course I will go...who cares if I am

continuing to verbally abuse and scar the bride and groom! " I can't

f-ing believe this. She is going to show up at my wedding without making

any real effort to work things out with me and I am too f-ing weak to

tell her she can't come! My dad, who means well granted, is telling me

that I should try to be gratious to her and, get this, " go out of my

way " to make her feel good (ON MY F-ING WEDDING DAY!!!!!) so that she

does not act up. Sure, no f-ing problem!!!!!

>

> Needless to say, I was screaming by the time I got to work and had to

pull myself together quickly before walking in the door. Now I am

sitting here with all this rage and don't know what to do with it. I've

been trying to set boundaries and trying to be congruent with my

emotions and actions and working really freaking hard at all of this in

therapy and every single day and she can still destroy me without even

lifting a finger. I feel so hopeless that I am ever going to get myself

out of this mess. I feel so weak right now...ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! I wish I

had soundproof walls so I could actually scream right now.

>

[Guest guest]

You can do it, Tucket! Keep all that rage and anger and remember how you feel

right now when you call them up and say " You are not invited, do not come, etc.

as Doug said it... "

Forgive this harshness, but do you want to think back on your wedding day, this

big day in your life, for the rest of your life and remember how nada ruined it

because you wouldn't stand up to her? Or do you want to remember your DH's face

and how much you love him and how wonderful that day was when you started your

lives together? Fight for yourself, fight for your future, and stand strong!

We are with you!

Turn that anger into righteous indignation and act on it.

Congratulations and I hope your wedding is beautiful.

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > I am rageful angry right now and need to vent. Sorry in advance for my

> > poor attempt to mask my swear words.

> > >

> > > I was driving to work this morning and got a call from my dad who told

> > me that my nada has decided to come to my wedding. Really? This is news

> > to me...last I heard from my nada was last night when she sent me a

> > nasty text message and voice mail. I got through one line of the text

> > before I realized it was cruel and deleted that as well as the voice

> > mail. How in the h*ll has she decided to come to the wedding when she is

> > still attacking the f-ing bride and groom!?!?! My dad then proceeds to

> > tell me that even though I reserved rooms for my family in the

> > moderately priced hotel room where my fiance and I are staying (I

> > requested that their rooms be far away from ours), my nada prefers to

> > stay at the f*ing four seasons in the next town!!! Now its all coming

> > together for me... " now that I know their is an f-ing 5 star hotel in

> > this beautiful beachside town, of course I will go...who cares if I am

> > continuing to verbally abuse and scar the bride and groom! " I can't

> > f-ing believe this. She is going to show up at my wedding without making

> > any real effort to work things out with me and I am too f-ing weak to

> > tell her she can't come! My dad, who means well granted, is telling me

> > that I should try to be gratious to her and, get this, " go out of my

> > way " to make her feel good (ON MY F-ING WEDDING DAY!!!!!) so that she

> > does not act up. Sure, no f-ing problem!!!!!

> > >

> > > Needless to say, I was screaming by the time I got to work and had to

> > pull myself together quickly before walking in the door. Now I am

> > sitting here with all this rage and don't know what to do with it. I've

> > been trying to set boundaries and trying to be congruent with my

> > emotions and actions and working really freaking hard at all of this in

> > therapy and every single day and she can still destroy me without even

> > lifting a finger. I feel so hopeless that I am ever going to get myself

> > out of this mess. I feel so weak right now...ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! I wish I

> > had soundproof walls so I could actually scream right now.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You can do it, Tucket! Keep all that rage and anger and remember how you feel

right now when you call them up and say " You are not invited, do not come, etc.

as Doug said it... "

Forgive this harshness, but do you want to think back on your wedding day, this

big day in your life, for the rest of your life and remember how nada ruined it

because you wouldn't stand up to her? Or do you want to remember your DH's face

and how much you love him and how wonderful that day was when you started your

lives together? Fight for yourself, fight for your future, and stand strong!

We are with you!

Turn that anger into righteous indignation and act on it.

Congratulations and I hope your wedding is beautiful.

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > I am rageful angry right now and need to vent. Sorry in advance for my

> > poor attempt to mask my swear words.

> > >

> > > I was driving to work this morning and got a call from my dad who told

> > me that my nada has decided to come to my wedding. Really? This is news

> > to me...last I heard from my nada was last night when she sent me a

> > nasty text message and voice mail. I got through one line of the text

> > before I realized it was cruel and deleted that as well as the voice

> > mail. How in the h*ll has she decided to come to the wedding when she is

> > still attacking the f-ing bride and groom!?!?! My dad then proceeds to

> > tell me that even though I reserved rooms for my family in the

> > moderately priced hotel room where my fiance and I are staying (I

> > requested that their rooms be far away from ours), my nada prefers to

> > stay at the f*ing four seasons in the next town!!! Now its all coming

> > together for me... " now that I know their is an f-ing 5 star hotel in

> > this beautiful beachside town, of course I will go...who cares if I am

> > continuing to verbally abuse and scar the bride and groom! " I can't

> > f-ing believe this. She is going to show up at my wedding without making

> > any real effort to work things out with me and I am too f-ing weak to

> > tell her she can't come! My dad, who means well granted, is telling me

> > that I should try to be gratious to her and, get this, " go out of my

> > way " to make her feel good (ON MY F-ING WEDDING DAY!!!!!) so that she

> > does not act up. Sure, no f-ing problem!!!!!

> > >

> > > Needless to say, I was screaming by the time I got to work and had to

> > pull myself together quickly before walking in the door. Now I am

> > sitting here with all this rage and don't know what to do with it. I've

> > been trying to set boundaries and trying to be congruent with my

> > emotions and actions and working really freaking hard at all of this in

> > therapy and every single day and she can still destroy me without even

> > lifting a finger. I feel so hopeless that I am ever going to get myself

> > out of this mess. I feel so weak right now...ahhhhhhhh!!!!!! I wish I

> > had soundproof walls so I could actually scream right now.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There s an old joke among military men. A group of senior officers was

debating who had the bravest men. The Air Force General had one of his

airmen climb up a flag pole and said, now THAT is courage. The Army

General had a solder climb up the pole , then rappel down it using the

line for hoisting the flag. Now THAT is brave, he said. The Marine

General had a PFC climb the pole, then dive off onto the grass and roll

to break his fall. THAT, boys, is courage, he boasted.

The Admiral just smiled. He called a sailor over to him. " Son, " he

said, " Did you see how that Marine just jumped off the flagpole? " Yes

sir. " Now son, I want you to climb up that pole and jump off, just

like the Marine did. " Screw you, sir, said the sailor. " And THAT, "

said the Admiral, is courage!

Morale, doesnt matter who you are, true courage is the willingness to

say Screw You to Damfoolishness, no matter who it comes from, and no

matter what the consequences.

Be a sailor. Stay off that damned flagpole.

Doug

>

>

> Thanks everyone for the support. It is so nice to know that I have a

place to go where people truly understand. Now if only I could find my

backbone....

>

>

[Guest guest]

There s an old joke among military men. A group of senior officers was

debating who had the bravest men. The Air Force General had one of his

airmen climb up a flag pole and said, now THAT is courage. The Army

General had a solder climb up the pole , then rappel down it using the

line for hoisting the flag. Now THAT is brave, he said. The Marine

General had a PFC climb the pole, then dive off onto the grass and roll

to break his fall. THAT, boys, is courage, he boasted.

The Admiral just smiled. He called a sailor over to him. " Son, " he

said, " Did you see how that Marine just jumped off the flagpole? " Yes

sir. " Now son, I want you to climb up that pole and jump off, just

like the Marine did. " Screw you, sir, said the sailor. " And THAT, "

said the Admiral, is courage!

Morale, doesnt matter who you are, true courage is the willingness to

say Screw You to Damfoolishness, no matter who it comes from, and no

matter what the consequences.

Be a sailor. Stay off that damned flagpole.

Doug

>

>

> Thanks everyone for the support. It is so nice to know that I have a

place to go where people truly understand. Now if only I could find my

backbone....

>

>

[Guest guest]

and i say amen to that ! 

Subject: Re: Wedding drama update... rageful angry

To: WTOAdultChildren1

Date: Friday, April 27, 2012, 10:12 PM

 

There s an old joke among military men. A group of senior officers was

debating who had the bravest men. The Air Force General had one of his

airmen climb up a flag pole and said, now THAT is courage. The Army

General had a solder climb up the pole , then rappel down it using the

line for hoisting the flag. Now THAT is brave, he said. The Marine

General had a PFC climb the pole, then dive off onto the grass and roll

to break his fall. THAT, boys, is courage, he boasted.

The Admiral just smiled. He called a sailor over to him. " Son, " he

said, " Did you see how that Marine just jumped off the flagpole? " Yes

sir. " Now son, I want you to climb up that pole and jump off, just

like the Marine did. " Screw you, sir, said the sailor. " And THAT, "

said the Admiral, is courage!

Morale, doesnt matter who you are, true courage is the willingness to

say Screw You to Damfoolishness, no matter who it comes from, and no

matter what the consequences.

Be a sailor. Stay off that damned flagpole.

Doug

>

>

> Thanks everyone for the support. It is so nice to know that I have a

place to go where people truly understand. Now if only I could find my

backbone....

>

>

[Guest guest]

and i say amen to that ! 

Subject: Re: Wedding drama update... rageful angry

To: WTOAdultChildren1

Date: Friday, April 27, 2012, 10:12 PM

 

There s an old joke among military men. A group of senior officers was

debating who had the bravest men. The Air Force General had one of his

airmen climb up a flag pole and said, now THAT is courage. The Army

General had a solder climb up the pole , then rappel down it using the

line for hoisting the flag. Now THAT is brave, he said. The Marine

General had a PFC climb the pole, then dive off onto the grass and roll

to break his fall. THAT, boys, is courage, he boasted.

The Admiral just smiled. He called a sailor over to him. " Son, " he

said, " Did you see how that Marine just jumped off the flagpole? " Yes

sir. " Now son, I want you to climb up that pole and jump off, just

like the Marine did. " Screw you, sir, said the sailor. " And THAT, "

said the Admiral, is courage!

Morale, doesnt matter who you are, true courage is the willingness to

say Screw You to Damfoolishness, no matter who it comes from, and no

matter what the consequences.

Be a sailor. Stay off that damned flagpole.

Doug

>

>

> Thanks everyone for the support. It is so nice to know that I have a

place to go where people truly understand. Now if only I could find my

backbone....

>

>

[Guest guest]

and i say amen to that ! 

Subject: Re: Wedding drama update... rageful angry

To: WTOAdultChildren1

Date: Friday, April 27, 2012, 10:12 PM

 

There s an old joke among military men. A group of senior officers was

debating who had the bravest men. The Air Force General had one of his

airmen climb up a flag pole and said, now THAT is courage. The Army

General had a solder climb up the pole , then rappel down it using the

line for hoisting the flag. Now THAT is brave, he said. The Marine

General had a PFC climb the pole, then dive off onto the grass and roll

to break his fall. THAT, boys, is courage, he boasted.

The Admiral just smiled. He called a sailor over to him. " Son, " he

said, " Did you see how that Marine just jumped off the flagpole? " Yes

sir. " Now son, I want you to climb up that pole and jump off, just

like the Marine did. " Screw you, sir, said the sailor. " And THAT, "

said the Admiral, is courage!

Morale, doesnt matter who you are, true courage is the willingness to

say Screw You to Damfoolishness, no matter who it comes from, and no

matter what the consequences.

Be a sailor. Stay off that damned flagpole.

Doug

>

>

> Thanks everyone for the support. It is so nice to know that I have a

place to go where people truly understand. Now if only I could find my

backbone....

>

>

[Guest guest]

I love that story, Doug. My dad served in the navy, during WWII. (He was 17

when he joined and had to get a note from his mother giving her permission.)

-Annie

>

>

> There s an old joke among military men. A group of senior officers was

> debating who had the bravest men. The Air Force General had one of his

> airmen climb up a flag pole and said, now THAT is courage. The Army

> General had a solder climb up the pole , then rappel down it using the

> line for hoisting the flag. Now THAT is brave, he said. The Marine

> General had a PFC climb the pole, then dive off onto the grass and roll

> to break his fall. THAT, boys, is courage, he boasted.

>

> The Admiral just smiled. He called a sailor over to him. " Son, " he

> said, " Did you see how that Marine just jumped off the flagpole? " Yes

> sir. " Now son, I want you to climb up that pole and jump off, just

> like the Marine did. " Screw you, sir, said the sailor. " And THAT, "

> said the Admiral, is courage!

>

> Morale, doesnt matter who you are, true courage is the willingness to

> say Screw You to Damfoolishness, no matter who it comes from, and no

> matter what the consequences.

>

> Be a sailor. Stay off that damned flagpole.

>

>

>

> Doug

[Guest guest]

I love that story, Doug. My dad served in the navy, during WWII. (He was 17

when he joined and had to get a note from his mother giving her permission.)

-Annie

>

>

> There s an old joke among military men. A group of senior officers was

> debating who had the bravest men. The Air Force General had one of his

> airmen climb up a flag pole and said, now THAT is courage. The Army

> General had a solder climb up the pole , then rappel down it using the

> line for hoisting the flag. Now THAT is brave, he said. The Marine

> General had a PFC climb the pole, then dive off onto the grass and roll

> to break his fall. THAT, boys, is courage, he boasted.

>

> The Admiral just smiled. He called a sailor over to him. " Son, " he

> said, " Did you see how that Marine just jumped off the flagpole? " Yes

> sir. " Now son, I want you to climb up that pole and jump off, just

> like the Marine did. " Screw you, sir, said the sailor. " And THAT, "

> said the Admiral, is courage!

>

> Morale, doesnt matter who you are, true courage is the willingness to

> say Screw You to Damfoolishness, no matter who it comes from, and no

> matter what the consequences.

>

> Be a sailor. Stay off that damned flagpole.

>

>

>

> Doug