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I agree, Annie, et al, wholeheartedly!

I too, feel concern that we often lack crucial information regarding

private family dynamics and interactions, and am leary of such reports of

childhood psychopathy, sociopathy, etc.

Manipulating the perceptions of others, obfuscation, and gaslighting in

service of their own projections, as well as other insidious, toxic forms

of acting-out, are common traits among all of the PDS

Their public affect is crafted in service of their disorder, and

designed to ensure, that anything that might potentially expose their own

shortcomings, flaws, misbehavior, or maltreatment of children, or others,

would be discredited as the antics of maliciousness, jealousy, or the

machinations of a spoiled, hypersensitive, or mentally unstable child.

Such PD behaviors are definitely* designed* to damage, or at the very

least, compromise a childs (or targeted individuals) credibility with

others. There is, also, a more sadistic and sinister element to these

attacks as well, that is intended to wrench and distort a childs sense of

identity and self, and create the theater of " collusion against the self, "

that I'm always hopping up and down about.

PD attacks have roots in her own projections and fears, and, as well as

being manipulative, and often seem to also have a " self-soothing " effect

for theem. Some of it was and is, simply sadistic sport.

They craft staggeringly effective disinformation campaigns, to either

build someone up with propaganda, lies, and innuendo, or to damage or

destroy a person with the same.

The BPD NPD in my life, made it very, very clear, that she could manipulate

family and public perception, thus ensuring that our family members are

pathetically uncertain, and afraid of each others loyalties and intentions,

while she would remain the emotional hub of the family, doling out tricks

and treats at her own pleasure.

Friends and acquaintances from work, committees, clubs, etc., were

conscripted into her sadistic theater, as witnesses and confidants, with

well crafted, well aimed, casual comments, stories and confessions.

She disarms people by telling " charmingly naughty, funny, little stories "

about herself and her family, that build a sense of intimacy and shared

life experience, and enhance others perceptions of her credibility. This

paves the way for later, full-blown assassination assaults on a targeted

individuals character.

Another favorite PD tactic, is to attack with " truth bombs, " generally

prefaced with " you aren't going to want to hear this, but I'm going to

tell you anyway . . .!!! " and then strafes you with either an outright lie,

or comments that someone made about you, in response to some untrue B.S.

she told them, regarding you, or your behavior.

From childhood on, I have often been hit out of the blue with such " truth

bombs, " or emotional, (or in my childhood,) physical assaults, just prior

to the arrival of visitors, or an important event.

I would still be teary eyed, red faced, and upset from the assault, and

my distress would be explained away as hypersensitivity, being spoiled,

pubescently hormonal (Yech, yech, yech) or out of control and emotionally

fractious.

If my face was red from being slapped, etc., then I had to be " restrained

" for my own good. I would then have to bend over backwards, being the

super-good child, to try to salvage my tarnished image.

I think some children in similar situations, either give up trying to

redeem themselves as a " good child " and adopt the role of " crazy-bad-kid "

out of desperation and a means of physical survival, or realize that this

is their given role within the family structure, (a ramped-up version of

" black-sheep, " ) and adopt the role as a means of emotional survival.

The BPD/NPD in my life, has done all of the above, and yet likes to tell

me, that I am paranoid.

I did my best to be a good child. My designated role was alternately Crazy

Dirty Slut Girl, and Mentally/Physically Fragile Creative Sick Girl. I am,

in fact, a really good girl, with a regretably surly attitude. Just in case.

I will be very interested to see *The Trouble With Evan*.

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I agree, Annie, et al, wholeheartedly!

I too, feel concern that we often lack crucial information regarding

private family dynamics and interactions, and am leary of such reports of

childhood psychopathy, sociopathy, etc.

Manipulating the perceptions of others, obfuscation, and gaslighting in

service of their own projections, as well as other insidious, toxic forms

of acting-out, are common traits among all of the PDS

Their public affect is crafted in service of their disorder, and

designed to ensure, that anything that might potentially expose their own

shortcomings, flaws, misbehavior, or maltreatment of children, or others,

would be discredited as the antics of maliciousness, jealousy, or the

machinations of a spoiled, hypersensitive, or mentally unstable child.

Such PD behaviors are definitely* designed* to damage, or at the very

least, compromise a childs (or targeted individuals) credibility with

others. There is, also, a more sadistic and sinister element to these

attacks as well, that is intended to wrench and distort a childs sense of

identity and self, and create the theater of " collusion against the self, "

that I'm always hopping up and down about.

PD attacks have roots in her own projections and fears, and, as well as

being manipulative, and often seem to also have a " self-soothing " effect

for theem. Some of it was and is, simply sadistic sport.

They craft staggeringly effective disinformation campaigns, to either

build someone up with propaganda, lies, and innuendo, or to damage or

destroy a person with the same.

The BPD NPD in my life, made it very, very clear, that she could manipulate

family and public perception, thus ensuring that our family members are

pathetically uncertain, and afraid of each others loyalties and intentions,

while she would remain the emotional hub of the family, doling out tricks

and treats at her own pleasure.

Friends and acquaintances from work, committees, clubs, etc., were

conscripted into her sadistic theater, as witnesses and confidants, with

well crafted, well aimed, casual comments, stories and confessions.

She disarms people by telling " charmingly naughty, funny, little stories "

about herself and her family, that build a sense of intimacy and shared

life experience, and enhance others perceptions of her credibility. This

paves the way for later, full-blown assassination assaults on a targeted

individuals character.

Another favorite PD tactic, is to attack with " truth bombs, " generally

prefaced with " you aren't going to want to hear this, but I'm going to

tell you anyway . . .!!! " and then strafes you with either an outright lie,

or comments that someone made about you, in response to some untrue B.S.

she told them, regarding you, or your behavior.

From childhood on, I have often been hit out of the blue with such " truth

bombs, " or emotional, (or in my childhood,) physical assaults, just prior

to the arrival of visitors, or an important event.

I would still be teary eyed, red faced, and upset from the assault, and

my distress would be explained away as hypersensitivity, being spoiled,

pubescently hormonal (Yech, yech, yech) or out of control and emotionally

fractious.

If my face was red from being slapped, etc., then I had to be " restrained

" for my own good. I would then have to bend over backwards, being the

super-good child, to try to salvage my tarnished image.

I think some children in similar situations, either give up trying to

redeem themselves as a " good child " and adopt the role of " crazy-bad-kid "

out of desperation and a means of physical survival, or realize that this

is their given role within the family structure, (a ramped-up version of

" black-sheep, " ) and adopt the role as a means of emotional survival.

The BPD/NPD in my life, has done all of the above, and yet likes to tell

me, that I am paranoid.

I did my best to be a good child. My designated role was alternately Crazy

Dirty Slut Girl, and Mentally/Physically Fragile Creative Sick Girl. I am,

in fact, a really good girl, with a regretably surly attitude. Just in case.

I will be very interested to see *The Trouble With Evan*.

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Good point about the parents when people aren't watching! That

crossed my mind. Have not seen " The trouble with Evan " . I too would

be interested in seeing it!

Mia

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Good point about the parents when people aren't watching! That

crossed my mind. Have not seen " The trouble with Evan " . I too would

be interested in seeing it!

Mia

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