Guest guest Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I agree, Annie, et al, wholeheartedly! I too, feel concern that we often lack crucial information regarding private family dynamics and interactions, and am leary of such reports of childhood psychopathy, sociopathy, etc. Manipulating the perceptions of others, obfuscation, and gaslighting in service of their own projections, as well as other insidious, toxic forms of acting-out, are common traits among all of the PDS Their public affect is crafted in service of their disorder, and designed to ensure, that anything that might potentially expose their own shortcomings, flaws, misbehavior, or maltreatment of children, or others, would be discredited as the antics of maliciousness, jealousy, or the machinations of a spoiled, hypersensitive, or mentally unstable child. Such PD behaviors are definitely* designed* to damage, or at the very least, compromise a childs (or targeted individuals) credibility with others. There is, also, a more sadistic and sinister element to these attacks as well, that is intended to wrench and distort a childs sense of identity and self, and create the theater of " collusion against the self, " that I'm always hopping up and down about. PD attacks have roots in her own projections and fears, and, as well as being manipulative, and often seem to also have a " self-soothing " effect for theem. Some of it was and is, simply sadistic sport. They craft staggeringly effective disinformation campaigns, to either build someone up with propaganda, lies, and innuendo, or to damage or destroy a person with the same. The BPD NPD in my life, made it very, very clear, that she could manipulate family and public perception, thus ensuring that our family members are pathetically uncertain, and afraid of each others loyalties and intentions, while she would remain the emotional hub of the family, doling out tricks and treats at her own pleasure. Friends and acquaintances from work, committees, clubs, etc., were conscripted into her sadistic theater, as witnesses and confidants, with well crafted, well aimed, casual comments, stories and confessions. She disarms people by telling " charmingly naughty, funny, little stories " about herself and her family, that build a sense of intimacy and shared life experience, and enhance others perceptions of her credibility. This paves the way for later, full-blown assassination assaults on a targeted individuals character. Another favorite PD tactic, is to attack with " truth bombs, " generally prefaced with " you aren't going to want to hear this, but I'm going to tell you anyway . . .!!! " and then strafes you with either an outright lie, or comments that someone made about you, in response to some untrue B.S. she told them, regarding you, or your behavior. From childhood on, I have often been hit out of the blue with such " truth bombs, " or emotional, (or in my childhood,) physical assaults, just prior to the arrival of visitors, or an important event. I would still be teary eyed, red faced, and upset from the assault, and my distress would be explained away as hypersensitivity, being spoiled, pubescently hormonal (Yech, yech, yech) or out of control and emotionally fractious. If my face was red from being slapped, etc., then I had to be " restrained " for my own good. I would then have to bend over backwards, being the super-good child, to try to salvage my tarnished image. I think some children in similar situations, either give up trying to redeem themselves as a " good child " and adopt the role of " crazy-bad-kid " out of desperation and a means of physical survival, or realize that this is their given role within the family structure, (a ramped-up version of " black-sheep, " ) and adopt the role as a means of emotional survival. The BPD/NPD in my life, has done all of the above, and yet likes to tell me, that I am paranoid. I did my best to be a good child. My designated role was alternately Crazy Dirty Slut Girl, and Mentally/Physically Fragile Creative Sick Girl. I am, in fact, a really good girl, with a regretably surly attitude. Just in case. I will be very interested to see *The Trouble With Evan*. Sunspot > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I agree, Annie, et al, wholeheartedly! I too, feel concern that we often lack crucial information regarding private family dynamics and interactions, and am leary of such reports of childhood psychopathy, sociopathy, etc. Manipulating the perceptions of others, obfuscation, and gaslighting in service of their own projections, as well as other insidious, toxic forms of acting-out, are common traits among all of the PDS Their public affect is crafted in service of their disorder, and designed to ensure, that anything that might potentially expose their own shortcomings, flaws, misbehavior, or maltreatment of children, or others, would be discredited as the antics of maliciousness, jealousy, or the machinations of a spoiled, hypersensitive, or mentally unstable child. Such PD behaviors are definitely* designed* to damage, or at the very least, compromise a childs (or targeted individuals) credibility with others. There is, also, a more sadistic and sinister element to these attacks as well, that is intended to wrench and distort a childs sense of identity and self, and create the theater of " collusion against the self, " that I'm always hopping up and down about. PD attacks have roots in her own projections and fears, and, as well as being manipulative, and often seem to also have a " self-soothing " effect for theem. Some of it was and is, simply sadistic sport. They craft staggeringly effective disinformation campaigns, to either build someone up with propaganda, lies, and innuendo, or to damage or destroy a person with the same. The BPD NPD in my life, made it very, very clear, that she could manipulate family and public perception, thus ensuring that our family members are pathetically uncertain, and afraid of each others loyalties and intentions, while she would remain the emotional hub of the family, doling out tricks and treats at her own pleasure. Friends and acquaintances from work, committees, clubs, etc., were conscripted into her sadistic theater, as witnesses and confidants, with well crafted, well aimed, casual comments, stories and confessions. She disarms people by telling " charmingly naughty, funny, little stories " about herself and her family, that build a sense of intimacy and shared life experience, and enhance others perceptions of her credibility. This paves the way for later, full-blown assassination assaults on a targeted individuals character. Another favorite PD tactic, is to attack with " truth bombs, " generally prefaced with " you aren't going to want to hear this, but I'm going to tell you anyway . . .!!! " and then strafes you with either an outright lie, or comments that someone made about you, in response to some untrue B.S. she told them, regarding you, or your behavior. From childhood on, I have often been hit out of the blue with such " truth bombs, " or emotional, (or in my childhood,) physical assaults, just prior to the arrival of visitors, or an important event. I would still be teary eyed, red faced, and upset from the assault, and my distress would be explained away as hypersensitivity, being spoiled, pubescently hormonal (Yech, yech, yech) or out of control and emotionally fractious. If my face was red from being slapped, etc., then I had to be " restrained " for my own good. I would then have to bend over backwards, being the super-good child, to try to salvage my tarnished image. I think some children in similar situations, either give up trying to redeem themselves as a " good child " and adopt the role of " crazy-bad-kid " out of desperation and a means of physical survival, or realize that this is their given role within the family structure, (a ramped-up version of " black-sheep, " ) and adopt the role as a means of emotional survival. The BPD/NPD in my life, has done all of the above, and yet likes to tell me, that I am paranoid. I did my best to be a good child. My designated role was alternately Crazy Dirty Slut Girl, and Mentally/Physically Fragile Creative Sick Girl. I am, in fact, a really good girl, with a regretably surly attitude. Just in case. I will be very interested to see *The Trouble With Evan*. Sunspot > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Good point about the parents when people aren't watching! That crossed my mind. Have not seen " The trouble with Evan " . I too would be interested in seeing it! Mia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Good point about the parents when people aren't watching! That crossed my mind. Have not seen " The trouble with Evan " . I too would be interested in seeing it! Mia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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