Guest guest Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Once I got past the outdated " BDPs are created " stuff, and realized that my husband did indeed treat our daughter like they mention, I let go of my guilt and began to absorb the book, Understanding the Borderline Mothe. Like nothing else, it did indeed help me to really understand my nada and just how invasive she was and unfortunately still is in my psyche. (She's dead, btw.) Right after I got the book, my sister came for a visit with me and our 94+ year old father. My sister and I read many parts of the book together and it really resonated for us. While most of the time we were both " bad, " she definitely was the all bad and I was the all good, and our father was " the fisherman " who sacrificed us to appease our half queen, half witch mother. I also realized that my daughter is a waif, and part queen. This information was so valuable that when, just by chance, my husband, who'd been singing the " let's get back together " song for six months abruptly broke it off. I will have to share his breakup email in another post - it's so BPD it's not funny. It was clear to me that my unfinished business with my mother was why I felt bad about the breakup of my relationship with my husband - again - this is the third time - and I don't really like him frankly. I just wanted for us to at least be friendly, have a few laughs and hopefully get some information on our daughter who lives with him (her choice). (He's now in another state so this breakup is not a big change, just no communication any more and no friendly " dating " visits.) His letter gave reasons that were delusional for breaking it off - very nada like - and I knew it was useless to say anything back. It's been two weeks and I have not responded to his letter. He is, after all, just a shadow; it's my nada's fine hand in rejection and delusional accusations that has come back to haunt me, and now I know how hopeless and useless it is to even think about doing anything about what he said in that email. Ah, how I thought I was past this but the good news is, with the book's information, I realize that it is like this: our nadas, fadas, they had if you will a remote in their hands when we were born and all though our childhood. They were supposed to eventually turn it over to us, or if you prefer another analogy, use it less and less and then get rid of it. BPD parents don't do that, they keep the remote and we need that remote. We can say " get over it, he/she isn't worth it " but first we have to know how to do that - we need the remote and we need help (the book says therapy because a good therapist will know what questions to ask and we do not - and in my case I agree) to get that remote, and really get it in our possession. So, I am resuming therapy with the therapist who tried to help me, my daughter and husband about 3 years ago. The only one who went to therapy with any regularity was...me. I will get that remote!! Flowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I like the analogy of handing over the remote. The remote controls what happens, whether we're on or off (listened to or ignored) and what channels are running (what we're allowed to do and say). At my old age I still feel like she has the remote at times. My question is to myself - am I handing it over to her at times or does she still have complete control? I want to own myself, my life and not respond/react to her clicks. > I realize that it is like this: our nadas, fadas, they had if you will a remote in their hands when we were born and all though our childhood. They were supposed to eventually turn it over to us, or if you prefer another analogy, use it less and less and then get rid of it. BPD parents don't do that, they keep the remote and we need that remote. We can say " get over it, he/she isn't worth it " but first we have to know how to do that - we need the remote and we need help (the book says therapy because a good therapist will know what questions to ask and we do not - and in my case I agree) to get that remote, and really get it in our possession. > > So, I am resuming therapy with the therapist who tried to help me, my daughter and husband about 3 years ago. The only one who went to therapy with any regularity was...me. > > I will get that remote!! > > Flowers > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Very cool Irene. Thanks to our nadas, we are unable to stop how we feel and/or block ridiculous messages from her or other personality disordered people because we don't have control. We are then in effect, " finding " other people in our lives (those we marry for example) who also control that remote. We unknowingly do this and will do this until we get " remote control acquisition " training (in therapy, and/or books or here with you dear KO's). People with normal loving parents transfer the remote into the brains and hearts of their children here and there as they grow - so when they are adults, they aren't held hostage by their nadas or those who are shadows of nada (like husbands, wives, bosses and so on). Maybe it's like we sometimes " marry our nadas " (as I did) because we are thinking erroneously that we will finally have that part of our childhood fulfilled. Flowers -----Original Message----- > > > >I like the analogy of handing over the remote. The remote controls what happens, whether we're on or off (listened to or ignored) and what channels are running (what we're allowed to do and say). At my old age I still feel like she has the remote at times. My question is to myself - am I handing it over to her at times or does she still have complete control? I want to own myself, my life and not respond/react to her clicks. > > >> > I realize that it is like this: our nadas, fadas, they had if you will a remote in their hands when we were born and all though our childhood. They were supposed to eventually turn it over to us, or if you prefer another analogy, use it less and less and then get rid of it. BPD parents don't do that, they keep the remote and we need that remote. We can say " get over it, he/she isn't worth it " but first we have to know how to do that - we need the remote and we need help (the book says therapy because a good therapist will know what questions to ask and we do not - and in my case I agree) to get that remote, and really get it in our possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Very cool Irene. Thanks to our nadas, we are unable to stop how we feel and/or block ridiculous messages from her or other personality disordered people because we don't have control. We are then in effect, " finding " other people in our lives (those we marry for example) who also control that remote. We unknowingly do this and will do this until we get " remote control acquisition " training (in therapy, and/or books or here with you dear KO's). People with normal loving parents transfer the remote into the brains and hearts of their children here and there as they grow - so when they are adults, they aren't held hostage by their nadas or those who are shadows of nada (like husbands, wives, bosses and so on). Maybe it's like we sometimes " marry our nadas " (as I did) because we are thinking erroneously that we will finally have that part of our childhood fulfilled. Flowers -----Original Message----- > > > >I like the analogy of handing over the remote. The remote controls what happens, whether we're on or off (listened to or ignored) and what channels are running (what we're allowed to do and say). At my old age I still feel like she has the remote at times. My question is to myself - am I handing it over to her at times or does she still have complete control? I want to own myself, my life and not respond/react to her clicks. > > >> > I realize that it is like this: our nadas, fadas, they had if you will a remote in their hands when we were born and all though our childhood. They were supposed to eventually turn it over to us, or if you prefer another analogy, use it less and less and then get rid of it. BPD parents don't do that, they keep the remote and we need that remote. We can say " get over it, he/she isn't worth it " but first we have to know how to do that - we need the remote and we need help (the book says therapy because a good therapist will know what questions to ask and we do not - and in my case I agree) to get that remote, and really get it in our possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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