Re: Kennedy / possible BPD...

[Guest guest]

Wow, I read part of the article, and the descriptions of her recurring rages and

wildly violent physical abuse, her suicide threats, her paranoia and blaming

others for all her problems sounds like borderline pd to me; but then, the heavy

drinking she did would eat away a person's executive function and cause them to

be belligerent, delusional, paranoid and violent also.

Apparently a psychiatrist who did see her, or at least meet her and observe her

a little, indicated in the article that he thinks she probably had borderline

pd.

What completely baffles ME is that although Bobby wrote in his deposition that

she was physically violent toward him *before they were married* he chose to

marry her anyway (!?)

I just can't wrap my mind around *wanting to marry* someone who evidences such

behaviors, and then actually *having children with them*???!!! I mean, yes,

this woman was physically stunningly gorgeous and was described as being

intelligent and creative as well, but how could anyone want to *marry* someone

who evidences borderline pd traits toward them?

Maybe in the beginning, her paranoid, hostile, violent behaviors were less

frequent and less intense? Or maybe Bobby is a " rescuer " type, or maybe it was

easier to live in denial instead of dealing with the issue early?

How sad; tragic, even, that even though 's foo and the Kennedys are very

wealthy families that could afford the very best medical treatment available,

still, refused to go in for any kind of treatment on her own... and when

she finally did agree to go in for an evaluation, it pushed her over the edge

into suicide.

I just hope that her 4 children are in therapy; they have to have been scarred

deeply by witnessing their mother's terrifying, bewildering behaviors and

knowing that she killed herself; poor little ones.

Makes me wonder if was an anomaly in her family of origin (like my own nada

was, as unlike her other foo members in personality as a cuckoo chick in a

robin's nest) or if there were other family members who evidenced the same

traits and behaviors as did.

-Annie

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> I was reading this week about Bobby Kennedy, Jr's wife, , who killed

herself last month.  He was convinced she had BPD and asked her family to

intervene in some way.

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> Of course, we can't know by reading about her whether she was BPD or bipolar,

or what. 

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> I thought it was interesting in that it's bringing BPD out more for discussion

and recognition.

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> Here's the link:

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/10/the-last-days-of-mary-richardso\

n-kennedy.html

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[Guest guest]

I just read the article in Newsweek (here's an online bit:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/10/the-last-days-of-mary-richardso\

n-kennedy.html) about Kennedy. Having read other articles about her

volatile behavior I assumed she had BPD, but no other article mentioned it. This

one did.

It's funny how I came here to post about it, and I am glad someone already

noticed.

Hopefully this will help bring some awareness to this mental disorder.

- Cvidz

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> I was reading this week about Bobby Kennedy, Jr's wife, , who killed

herself last month.  He was convinced she had BPD and asked her family to

intervene in some way.

>

> Of course, we can't know by reading about her whether she was BPD or bipolar,

or what. 

>

> I thought it was interesting in that it's bringing BPD out more for discussion

and recognition.

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> Here's the link:

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/10/the-last-days-of-mary-richardso\

n-kennedy.html

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[Guest guest]

The print version of the article is much more extensive, with specific

examples-- even how she had clearly had split her daughter Kick as the " bad

child. " The daughter had confided in Bobby Jr that her mother hated her.

Psychologists diagnosed with BPD, and directed Bobby Jr to read books

including " I Hate You, Don't Leave Me. "

The children were exposed to it to. The article reads, " After their separation,

'Bobby would arrive to take the kids and she would throw a screaming fit... the

kids were all witnessing a lot of this stuff... Horror. Just horror. And I loved

. I want that to be known. I adored her. I didn't adore what BPD did to

her. " (social worker and long time family friend of Bobby Jr and )

- Cvidz

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> > I was reading this week about Bobby Kennedy, Jr's wife, , who killed

herself last month.  He was convinced she had BPD and asked her family to

intervene in some way.

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> > Of course, we can't know by reading about her whether she was BPD or

bipolar, or what. 

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> > I thought it was interesting in that it's bringing BPD out more for

discussion and recognition.

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> > Here's the link:

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/10/the-last-days-of-mary-richardso\

n-kennedy.html

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for posting this link. I read the whole thing and watched all the videos

that were throughout the pages. Lawrence Learner gave an insightful interview

and made me sit up when he said that Kennedy may make BPD " his " issue and

bring awareness to the world about BPD, just as Eunice Shriver did with mental

disabilities. WOW, wouldn't that be a help to us all!!

I'm so disappointed in the mental health field because it is so reluctant to

label people as BPD when they know they're not just suffering from depression or

anxiety. My nada was treated for 40 years with anti-depressants and sleeping

pills by a family doctor with NO psychiatric treatment or counseling. I think

sometimes that BPD/NPDs are so scary that the medical community is afraid of

riling them. Instead, they let families suffer and make do with bandaid

treatments. Look at what went through--he says he was beaten and injured

by , and others in the family state they saw his injuries. He could have

easily been killed. This is a cautionary tale...

AFB

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> > > I was reading this week about Bobby Kennedy, Jr's wife, , who killed

herself last month.  He was convinced she had BPD and asked her family to

intervene in some way.

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> > > Of course, we can't know by reading about her whether she was BPD or

bipolar, or what. 

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> > > I thought it was interesting in that it's bringing BPD out more for

discussion and recognition.

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> > > Here's the link:

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/10/the-last-days-of-mary-richardso\

n-kennedy.html

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