Guest guest Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Hi everybody, I had previously posted about nada hunting me down through a lawyer's letter to a pal who passed it on to me. The letter claimed my name had been left on a deed to some real estate and nada wished me to sign the property back over to her. If " I wished " I could be paid a portion of the proceeds. Translation: In true BPD style, nada had her lawyer request I give up my legal rights to a piece of property and if I really, really needed to be paid, then I could get " a portion " of my money. As a few people in this list know, I was very upset at nearly 7 blissful years of NC interrupted, but I decided to fight for my rights. Although I have had legal advice on this matter, I asked a trusted and experienced business/real estate savvy friend represent me to nada's lawyer. Based on the bitter past, I know the average default for people (lawyers included) is to side with the poor, elderly little waif nada (hiding the internal witch/queen) who cries poor while sitting on a substantial nestegg. Nada never parted with a penny she didn't squeeze till the eagle screamed, and old age hasn't made her any more generous. My friend has proved to be a terrific buffer between me and nada's lawyer, as well as a good communicator that takes the emotion out of the dialogue and just cites the facts. A few days ago we received a copy of fada's Will and as I expected, all trace of my name was erased. I had been entirely cut out of any inheritance. Nada was not using her probate lawyer to contact me, she hired someone new. The new lawyer had seen only the deed to the property, not the Will, and her tone changed a lot when she got a copy from nada and forwarded it to us. Now Nada's lawyer sees the whole picture: a daughter cut out of her inheritance and hanging on to a shred of remaining property. It's taken a little of the righteous crusade out of her, if I can read between the lines. Thank God for my friend who wisely asked for us to see the Will. It served more than one purpose. Along with the Will came " tax assessment " notices that nada's lawyer is asking me to accept as a true valuation of the property. She wants me to accept 1/3rd of that figure as my portion. However, a little research reveals that property sales are 2.38 times the value of tax assessments. So we are currently crafting a reply to the lawyer showing the difference in values and the more-than-double payoff I deserve. We have also suggested that a property appraiser be hired so we can get a truly accurate number and come to terms that way. My pal crafted an email response to the lawyer that used my name 3 times and I helped him revise it so my name was only mentioned once and the rest of the email was couched in impersonal terms. To nada, me thinking for myself or standing up for myself is like waving a red flag at a bull. So I've coached my pal to let me stay as low profile as possible, and to mention my name the bare minimum. Although nada's instinct will be to stop the proceedings and let the property rot rather than give me anything, I know that my brother and this lawyer will want a speedy resolution. With luck and God's help, they will drag nada to the bargaining table. My representative is very aware that while holding out for the best payout possible, we must give the impression of humility and letting nada " win " whereever possible. For me, getting a certified check and immediately closing the email account, address drop, and bank account used for this transaction will be enough. I can resume my precious NC and get on with CHOOSING LIFE. The final blessing of the timing of all of this is that the nada-lawyer's latest email came the same day that a dear friend passed away. I could not possibly feel worse right now, so I'm very grateful that my nada-pain can be bundled in with my sorrow, and I don't have to waste more time on nada separately--a final gift from my dear, departed friend whom I'm sitting shiva for into next week. Only fellow-KOs would understand this. AFB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Hi AFB, My condolences on the death of your good friend; that is a devastating loss, I'm sure. You are being so courageous and proactive in standing up for yourself and protecting your rights RE this property, that is so awesome! And yes, that was sweetly ironic that your nada's removing your name from your father's will ended up backfiring on her, and made it obvious that she is trying to screw you out of your rightful inheritance; that action made it clear how manipulate and hateful she is actually is being. I am waving my virtual pennant with " GO AFB! " on it, and cheering for you as you continue your fight to get your fair share of the property's true value. -Annie > > Hi everybody, I had previously posted about nada hunting me down through a lawyer's letter to a pal who passed it on to me. The letter claimed my name had been left on a deed to some real estate and nada wished me to sign the property back over to her. If " I wished " I could be paid a portion of the proceeds. > > Translation: In true BPD style, nada had her lawyer request I give up my legal rights to a piece of property and if I really, really needed to be paid, then I could get " a portion " of my money. As a few people in this list know, I was very upset at nearly 7 blissful years of NC interrupted, but I decided to fight for my rights. > > Although I have had legal advice on this matter, I asked a trusted and experienced business/real estate savvy friend represent me to nada's lawyer. Based on the bitter past, I know the average default for people (lawyers included) is to side with the poor, elderly little waif nada (hiding the internal witch/queen) who cries poor while sitting on a substantial nestegg. Nada never parted with a penny she didn't squeeze till the eagle screamed, and old age hasn't made her any more generous. My friend has proved to be a terrific buffer between me and nada's lawyer, as well as a good communicator that takes the emotion out of the dialogue and just cites the facts. > > A few days ago we received a copy of fada's Will and as I expected, all trace of my name was erased. I had been entirely cut out of any inheritance. Nada was not using her probate lawyer to contact me, she hired someone new. The new lawyer had seen only the deed to the property, not the Will, and her tone changed a lot when she got a copy from nada and forwarded it to us. Now Nada's lawyer sees the whole picture: a daughter cut out of her inheritance and hanging on to a shred of remaining property. It's taken a little of the righteous crusade out of her, if I can read between the lines. Thank God for my friend who wisely asked for us to see the Will. It served more than one purpose. > > Along with the Will came " tax assessment " notices that nada's lawyer is asking me to accept as a true valuation of the property. She wants me to accept 1/3rd of that figure as my portion. However, a little research reveals that property sales are 2.38 times the value of tax assessments. So we are currently crafting a reply to the lawyer showing the difference in values and the more-than-double payoff I deserve. We have also suggested that a property appraiser be hired so we can get a truly accurate number and come to terms that way. > > My pal crafted an email response to the lawyer that used my name 3 times and I helped him revise it so my name was only mentioned once and the rest of the email was couched in impersonal terms. To nada, me thinking for myself or standing up for myself is like waving a red flag at a bull. So I've coached my pal to let me stay as low profile as possible, and to mention my name the bare minimum. > > Although nada's instinct will be to stop the proceedings and let the property rot rather than give me anything, I know that my brother and this lawyer will want a speedy resolution. With luck and God's help, they will drag nada to the bargaining table. My representative is very aware that while holding out for the best payout possible, we must give the impression of humility and letting nada " win " whereever possible. For me, getting a certified check and immediately closing the email account, address drop, and bank account used for this transaction will be enough. I can resume my precious NC and get on with CHOOSING LIFE. > > The final blessing of the timing of all of this is that the nada-lawyer's latest email came the same day that a dear friend passed away. I could not possibly feel worse right now, so I'm very grateful that my nada-pain can be bundled in with my sorrow, and I don't have to waste more time on nada separately--a final gift from my dear, departed friend whom I'm sitting shiva for into next week. Only fellow-KOs would understand this. > AFB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 AFB, I am very sorry for your loss, and glad you are taking the time to properly grieve your friend. I am not Jewish, and I have always envied the custom of sitting shiva, though not for the pd. It is so heartening to hear of the effective and shrewd manner you have taken in dealing with your break from NC. I am so proud of you. And am hoping for the best outcome. You deserve it. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Annie, thank you so much for your kind support. It really means a lot. I realize that so much of dealing with nada is actually dealing with the post-traumatic stress that is embedded like a landmine-field all over my brain. The great thing about having my friend represent me is that I know him to be a calm, sane and trustworthy person, so the information gets run through his brain and back to mine and it really keeps me in sanity with feet on the ground. I've known for years that the only way to deal with nada is to do so " in the light of day " with others watching. nada is very aware of what others think and that will pressure her to keep moving forward so this deal can get settled. I'm just so happy that my NC and geographic distance ensures no privacy for her. She can't use dirty tricks in private on this one and that gives me protection. However, at the same time, I am far from getting excited about the money. It would not surprise me at all if nada decides to stop all proceedings and simply let the property rot until she dies. Then I no longer get a third, I get HALF because then it's down to me and brother on the deed. There is simply no getting around having to deal with me. Even if she wants to give the property to charity or something like that, my permission still needs to be granted. No moves without the split-black child. Wow, never thought I'd see this day! So, nada seems to be between a rock and a hard place. Of course, I've never seen nada lose, ever. So I kind of watch this with a percentage of detachment, not getting too invested in the outcome, other than having nada make a move which leads to an eventual outcome. Even no move on nada's part is a move because without some sort of decision, all parties just walk away and communication channels shut down. I go back to 100% NC. I'll report the next move--it's like BPD chess! AFB > > > > Hi everybody, I had previously posted about nada hunting me down through a lawyer's letter to a pal who passed it on to me. The letter claimed my name had been left on a deed to some real estate and nada wished me to sign the property back over to her. If " I wished " I could be paid a portion of the proceeds. > > > > Translation: In true BPD style, nada had her lawyer request I give up my legal rights to a piece of property and if I really, really needed to be paid, then I could get " a portion " of my money. As a few people in this list know, I was very upset at nearly 7 blissful years of NC interrupted, but I decided to fight for my rights. > > > > Although I have had legal advice on this matter, I asked a trusted and experienced business/real estate savvy friend represent me to nada's lawyer. Based on the bitter past, I know the average default for people (lawyers included) is to side with the poor, elderly little waif nada (hiding the internal witch/queen) who cries poor while sitting on a substantial nestegg. Nada never parted with a penny she didn't squeeze till the eagle screamed, and old age hasn't made her any more generous. My friend has proved to be a terrific buffer between me and nada's lawyer, as well as a good communicator that takes the emotion out of the dialogue and just cites the facts. > > > > A few days ago we received a copy of fada's Will and as I expected, all trace of my name was erased. I had been entirely cut out of any inheritance. Nada was not using her probate lawyer to contact me, she hired someone new. The new lawyer had seen only the deed to the property, not the Will, and her tone changed a lot when she got a copy from nada and forwarded it to us. Now Nada's lawyer sees the whole picture: a daughter cut out of her inheritance and hanging on to a shred of remaining property. It's taken a little of the righteous crusade out of her, if I can read between the lines. Thank God for my friend who wisely asked for us to see the Will. It served more than one purpose. > > > > Along with the Will came " tax assessment " notices that nada's lawyer is asking me to accept as a true valuation of the property. She wants me to accept 1/3rd of that figure as my portion. However, a little research reveals that property sales are 2.38 times the value of tax assessments. So we are currently crafting a reply to the lawyer showing the difference in values and the more-than-double payoff I deserve. We have also suggested that a property appraiser be hired so we can get a truly accurate number and come to terms that way. > > > > My pal crafted an email response to the lawyer that used my name 3 times and I helped him revise it so my name was only mentioned once and the rest of the email was couched in impersonal terms. To nada, me thinking for myself or standing up for myself is like waving a red flag at a bull. So I've coached my pal to let me stay as low profile as possible, and to mention my name the bare minimum. > > > > Although nada's instinct will be to stop the proceedings and let the property rot rather than give me anything, I know that my brother and this lawyer will want a speedy resolution. With luck and God's help, they will drag nada to the bargaining table. My representative is very aware that while holding out for the best payout possible, we must give the impression of humility and letting nada " win " whereever possible. For me, getting a certified check and immediately closing the email account, address drop, and bank account used for this transaction will be enough. I can resume my precious NC and get on with CHOOSING LIFE. > > > > The final blessing of the timing of all of this is that the nada-lawyer's latest email came the same day that a dear friend passed away. I could not possibly feel worse right now, so I'm very grateful that my nada-pain can be bundled in with my sorrow, and I don't have to waste more time on nada separately--a final gift from my dear, departed friend whom I'm sitting shiva for into next week. Only fellow-KOs would understand this. > > AFB > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 AFB, love that and all I could think of was LOL and the line from Harry Potter and the Socerers Stone... Ron: " It's EXACTLY like wizards Chess, Hermione! " so glad that you aren't just rolling over and letting nada take what little there was left to you. I'm not sure I understand one thing tho. Did your nada have your fada take you out of the will? Sometimes it almost sounds like your nada went thru the will with her black sharpie and just marked your name out. It sounds silly, but that is just what I keep picturing in my head. I just don't get how these people think. C > I'll report the next move--it's like BPD chess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks to SR, CmeBfree and all for kind words/thoughts of support. Clarification: No, nada did not take a black sharpie and black my name out of the Will. She must have worked and worked and worked on fada, who was an enabler-extraordinaire, and had him change the Will so I was taken out. Fada MUST have known that I was still on the deed to one piece of property but it is SO LIKE HIM to not want to deal with it. (I was NC by then and they'd have had to hire a skip tracer to find me--how embarrassing!) When revising his Will, he likely kicked the can down the road, decided to let the chips fall where they may after his death, and simply not mentioned it. It's highly unlikely nada knew of this oversight. I suppose it's possible that fada still wanted me to have some small piece of inheritance but frankly, I doubt it. It's far more likely he just didn't want to deal with the wrangling and God forbid, once they found me, more insistence from me that we resume family counseling. How he HATED counseling, and digging up the past and family secrets that he felt were dead and buried. Yeah, it would be nice to assign some shred of altruism to fada's action but the truth serves me better. I grew up in Oz and heard airbrushed fairytales all my life. The plain, unvarnished truth serves me better in the real world. This story will take a Time Out while nada works out her next move. here's my sign-off thanks to CmeBfree: " It's EXACTLY like wizards Chess, Hermione! " AFB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 ROFL, LOVE IT! C > > Thanks to SR, CmeBfree and all for kind words/thoughts of support. > > Clarification: No, nada did not take a black sharpie and black my name out of the Will. She must have worked and worked and worked on fada, who was an enabler-extraordinaire, and had him change the Will so I was taken out. Fada MUST have known that I was still on the deed to one piece of property but it is SO LIKE HIM to not want to deal with it. (I was NC by then and they'd have had to hire a skip tracer to find me--how embarrassing!) When revising his Will, he likely kicked the can down the road, decided to let the chips fall where they may after his death, and simply not mentioned it. It's highly unlikely nada knew of this oversight. > > I suppose it's possible that fada still wanted me to have some small piece of inheritance but frankly, I doubt it. It's far more likely he just didn't want to deal with the wrangling and God forbid, once they found me, more insistence from me that we resume family counseling. How he HATED counseling, and digging up the past and family secrets that he felt were dead and buried. Yeah, it would be nice to assign some shred of altruism to fada's action but the truth serves me better. I grew up in Oz and heard airbrushed fairytales all my life. The plain, unvarnished truth serves me better in the real world. > > This story will take a Time Out while nada works out her next move. here's my sign-off thanks to CmeBfree: " It's EXACTLY like wizards Chess, Hermione! " > AFB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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