Guest guest Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Hi, I'm wondering if other people have experienced PTSD symptoms in response to growing up with a BP parent? I believe I have been experiencing a triggered trauma response recently in relation to an interaction with my BP parent. I feel like my spouse thinks I'm over-reacting, I don't know how to describe the feeling of being afraid of your parent-he doesn't get it. How do you talk to your spouse about this in a way that makes sense? Is this normal? Is it normal also to be seeking validation from him, I feel a little needy at times but my fear is so real, I'm looking for comforting. What do people do to handle that kind of fearfulness? Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I think we all do. at least this is a common discussion here. In some sense you are over-reacting, but realistically you are just being re-traumatized. much of PTSD is actually just being overcome with all the emotions of un-dealt with feelings at once when it is " triggered " I am being treated for it now. I was never physically abused. my abuse was (is) emotional, and psychological, and verbal. In my case a lot of it was connected to a physical condition I have that as it turns out is probably the result of the same trauma. I destroyed my body to protect my mind I guess. I am doing a therapy called EMDR (eye movement desensitization, and reprocessing) you basically re-live the experience emotionally and talk it through, and resolve it. it is assisted by bilateral stimulation (little things that vibrate you hold in your hand) beeping in the ears, and lights that go back and forth that you follow with your eyes. This part of it stimulates the brain in a way that stimulates dreaming, which is a time our brains process things. sometimes one incident or type of incident has to be worked over a lot before it stops being upsetting. One thing it has helped me with is my medical condition. one of symptoms forces me to sit down wherever I am. This symptom was also painful, and usually led to me peeing my pants. This was the cause of a huge amount of nastiness from my siblings, and abuse from Nada. the symptoms are bad enough alone. I have been going to physical therapy to rehabilitate the muscles that cause all of that, and the symptoms have eased considerably. however, this is not the kind of condition that is " cured " it just becomes maintained. so, even though I am getting better physically, even mild forms of this symptom would still overcome me with emotion. EMDR has allowed me to express, and process these emotions, and I am now not hurt by that past abuse. That particular thing has taken me many months to achieve. and I think it might come up sometimes still, but it is much milder now. this type of therapy is very flexible to whatever seems to make you upset. And it makes it easier to understand your emotions and needs. which having a nada, I imagine you were constantly invalidated,and ignored. they seem to all do that. Meikjn > > Hi, > I'm wondering if other people have experienced PTSD symptoms in response to growing up with a BP parent? I believe I have been experiencing a triggered trauma response recently in relation to an interaction with my BP parent. I feel like my spouse thinks I'm over-reacting, I don't know how to describe the feeling of being afraid of your parent-he doesn't get it. How do you talk to your spouse about this in a way that makes sense? Is this normal? Is it normal also to be seeking validation from him, I feel a little needy at times but my fear is so real, I'm looking for comforting. What do people do to handle that kind of fearfulness? > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Hi Jen, I experienced that kind of conditioned, subconscious, atavistic fear of my own mother and her rage pretty much up until she died. My bpd/npd mother was violent with my Sister and me up until our teen years, and emotionally abusive (in a Jekyll-and-Hyde way) throughout our relationship. My own mother even subjected me to quasi-sexual abuse, at one point, that was highly traumatizing for me and did life-trajectory-altering damage. Even though as an adult I understood intellectually that my mother was no longer physically more powerful than me, still I feared her lashing out at me emotionally as much as I used to fear her physically. It was really, really rare for me to confront her about anything, and when I did I'd usually couch it in the most neutral, non-blaming ways possible in order to avoid triggering her into a rage. But In the end, I just didn't have any resilience left or any desire left to keep trying to have a relationship with her and I went No Contact. I've read that children who were physically and emotionally abused by one or both parents can in some cases develop an unnatural. super-strong attachment to the abusive parent; its called " trauma bonding " and its similar to the way a hostage will bond with their captor. (aka " Stockholm Syndrome. " ) Its an unconscious survival mechanism, as it turns out. I believe I trauma-bonded to my mother in particular because she was the active abuser while dad was the passive dishrag who allowed it; I do still have some ptsd symptoms although they're not as bad as they used to be. The good news is that there are therapists who specialize in trauma recovery; such specialists are trained in recognizing and understand that processing and resolving trauma is a real issue for the adult survivors of parents who were or still are emotionally abusive, physically abusive and even sexually abusive, or parents who were/are negligent, rejecting, or exploitative. The trauma-bonding and the post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms can be addressed and overcome, and healing can happen with time, effort and support. -Annie > > Hi, > I'm wondering if other people have experienced PTSD symptoms in response to growing up with a BP parent? I believe I have been experiencing a triggered trauma response recently in relation to an interaction with my BP parent. I feel like my spouse thinks I'm over-reacting, I don't know how to describe the feeling of being afraid of your parent-he doesn't get it. How do you talk to your spouse about this in a way that makes sense? Is this normal? Is it normal also to be seeking validation from him, I feel a little needy at times but my fear is so real, I'm looking for comforting. What do people do to handle that kind of fearfulness? > Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Jen, It's a fear structure. The link is parents, danger, fear. This is not a cognition, but a non-conscious process as your senses take in the physical indicators of parents--either because they are there, or because you have called up images of them in your mind. Because they have been dangerous in the past to you, the message is sent from your occipital lobe to your amygdala that you are in danger. Your amygdala then prompts a physiological response of fear in you (increased heart rate and respiration, decreased bloodflow to the digestive system, sometimes vomiting, decreased activity in the prefrontal cortex), as well as prompts memories of how you responded in the past, because the fact is that you are alive, so however you responded in the past was a successful response. Otherwise, you would be dead. Even if you were not physically abused by your parents, rejection and temporary abandonment can feel just as life-threatening to a small child, because not having the protection of parents really is life-threatening. You can sometimes trick your mind out of a PTSD response by providing it with experiences of safety as soon as the fear is triggered, because it doesn't know the difference between imagination and reality--the part of your mind responsible for fear responses is not equipped to discern that. So, if you can identify something that sets you at ease and keep a reminder or picture of it handy, that can help. Practice works just like fire and earthquake drills do. Think of your parents, and then call up reminders of safety. If you do this enough, calming down becomes automatic even if the fear response remains. I would imagine having a spouse who doesn't get it reminds you of having parents who didn't get it. In addition, we all do look to others around us to help us determine the accuracy of our interpretations of the world. Being severely isolated can literally lead to psychosis, because we cannot determine for ourselves what is real and what isn't. Needing validation is part of how we are wired. Take care, Ashana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Meikjn, There is good evidence that medical conditions can cause symptoms of trauma if the child is not adequately emotionally supported through the process. The fact that you were ridiculed and verbally abused when you had distressing and probably bewildering physical symptoms would cause PTSD in and of itself. Take care, Ashana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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