Guest guest Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Does anyone else's Nada talk to herself? I haven't really noticed specific reference to that anywhere here so I was wondering if I was the only one. She would whisper in her conversations with herself- actually whisper isn't even right, there was no breath behind it, just lips and head moving like she was silently practicing having a conversation with someone else. Did anyone else's Nada do anything similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Talking to oneself either silently or out loud is not listed as a diagnostic trait of borderline pd (here's a link to the diagnostic traits associated with borderline pd, which vary slightly between the USA's DSM-IV and the international diagnostic tool, the ICD-10: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder). My nada didn't engage in that behavior, to answer your question. From what I've read, talking to oneself is just rather a neutral behavior. Its neither positive nor negative, and it would be of concern only if its interfering with normal functioning. Mentally healthy people talk to themselves when they're trying to learn or memorize new material they're studying, concentrating on executing an unfamiliar, detailed, step by step task, rehearsing a speech, or working out a problem for themselves, as in debating the pros and cons of a decision before discussing it with another person. I imagine it can happen when a person is extremely isolated and lonely, also. But if having an ongoing inner dialogue with yourself is starting to frequently or noticeably interfere with the ability to be aware of and respond to other people, then it becomes something to be concerned about. Frequent or constant talking to oneself out loud or silently can be due to extreme stress, or perhaps due to schizophrenia, or it could be a self-soothing/self-calming technique after a particularly traumatic incident. There are probably other causes, too, but I'm not a psychologist, I'm just speculating. Since you can't really hear what your mother is saying (you're just able to notice her lips moving) perhaps she is simply praying? There's nothing wrong with that unless its happening so frequently or constantly that its replacing her normal face-to-face interactions with other people. Have you ever asked her about it? -Annie > > Does anyone else's Nada talk to herself? I haven't really noticed specific reference to that anywhere here so I was wondering if I was the only one. She would whisper in her conversations with herself- actually whisper isn't even right, there was no breath behind it, just lips and head moving like she was silently practicing having a conversation with someone else. > > Did anyone else's Nada do anything similar? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I didn't do a good job of communicating this one so I can totally understand your response, especially if practicing a speech or something this would be totally normal, and if someone asked you about it you would easily be able to explain it and it would not seem unusual. No what I meant to say was she would be having a full on silent argument with herself, like she was telling someone off but just mouthing the words not actually verbalizing them. There would be lots of head movement and finger pointing in these " conversations " . I would never have dared confront her directly about it in fear of her rages, but sometimes I would ask her when I walked in on it if she was okay, and she'd always respond yes, like I was crazy for asking, because nothing was happening. I don't know if she even knew she was doing it, or maybe she thought that as long as there was no audible sound emitted from her mouth it didn't qualify as talking to oneself. Subconsciously I think she may have known it was odd because she wouldn't do it when there were people around. But I would often walk in on her having what looked like a silent argument with herself. Someone had suggested to me that this is a consequence of living alone and normal under those circumstances- this isn't exactly the circumstance here because my mother lived with a husband and two kids, but there may be some validity to this theory because she may often have felt alone even when she wasn't. She's deeply avoidant and dishrag dad is Schizoid, so it may very well have felt like there was no one to talk to (she never spoke with, only yelled at her kids and my father doesn't understand emotions) I'm asking because I know she is BPD and Avoidant, but I'm wondering if she might also have some psychotic tendencies too, or if maybe this is just normal with BPD? > > > > Does anyone else's Nada talk to herself? I haven't really noticed specific reference to that anywhere here so I was wondering if I was the only one. She would whisper in her conversations with herself- actually whisper isn't even right, there was no breath behind it, just lips and head moving like she was silently practicing having a conversation with someone else. > > > > Did anyone else's Nada do anything similar? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 All I can offer is that talking to yourself, or arguing with yourself, are not listed as part of the bpd diagnostic criteria. Although diagnostic criteria #9 is " Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation, delusions or severe dissociative symptoms " the description specifically does NOT include hallucinations. Hearing voices that aren't there and seeing people that aren't there (or arguing with people that aren't there) are hallucinations, an indicator of " psychosis " which is a different condition and not a bpd diagnostic trait. But it is possible to have or develop a psychotic disorder in addition to having borderline pd; my nada developed senile dementia late in her life. Only a psychologist or psychiatrist could tease out what's going on with your nada after carefully examining her first hand; only a professional could determine if your nada is still anchored in reality or if she's perhaps in the beginning stages of dementia. -Annie > > > > > > Does anyone else's Nada talk to herself? I haven't really noticed specific reference to that anywhere here so I was wondering if I was the only one. She would whisper in her conversations with herself- actually whisper isn't even right, there was no breath behind it, just lips and head moving like she was silently practicing having a conversation with someone else. > > > > > > Did anyone else's Nada do anything similar? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 My mom talks to herself although I've never heard her. I would walk into the room, and she would say, " Did you hear me talking to myself? " ________________________________ To: WTOAdultChildren1 Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:52 AM Subject: Re: Talking to herself  I didn't do a good job of communicating this one so I can totally understand your response, especially if practicing a speech or something this would be totally normal, and if someone asked you about it you would easily be able to explain it and it would not seem unusual. No what I meant to say was she would be having a full on silent argument with herself, like she was telling someone off but just mouthing the words not actually verbalizing them. There would be lots of head movement and finger pointing in these " conversations " . I would never have dared confront her directly about it in fear of her rages, but sometimes I would ask her when I walked in on it if she was okay, and she'd always respond yes, like I was crazy for asking, because nothing was happening. I don't know if she even knew she was doing it, or maybe she thought that as long as there was no audible sound emitted from her mouth it didn't qualify as talking to oneself. Subconsciously I think she may have known it was odd because she wouldn't do it when there were people around. But I would often walk in on her having what looked like a silent argument with herself. Someone had suggested to me that this is a consequence of living alone and normal under those circumstances- this isn't exactly the circumstance here because my mother lived with a husband and two kids, but there may be some validity to this theory because she may often have felt alone even when she wasn't. She's deeply avoidant and dishrag dad is Schizoid, so it may very well have felt like there was no one to talk to (she never spoke with, only yelled at her kids and my father doesn't understand emotions) I'm asking because I know she is BPD and Avoidant, but I'm wondering if she might also have some psychotic tendencies too, or if maybe this is just normal with BPD? > > > > Does anyone else's Nada talk to herself? I haven't really noticed specific reference to that anywhere here so I was wondering if I was the only one. She would whisper in her conversations with herself- actually whisper isn't even right, there was no breath behind it, just lips and head moving like she was silently practicing having a conversation with someone else. > > > > Did anyone else's Nada do anything similar? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.