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Thank you Elmtree and mdg,

I will go! You are so right that there was so much that I reacted against that

prevented me from getting help.

And my reaction to the steps is not in being unable to see how my own

narcissistic actions caused major wounding (oh yes, i have inventoried, those

ruminations have not been for naught), but more in the cult aspect of it. Which

is probably a viewpoint I have from only being exposed to Nada and her crazy

cronies.

And that woman who told me that my mom loved every hair on my head even when I

was an " out of control " teenager (never mind that I was an honor roll student,

in all AP classes and never got in trouble outside the home - while golden child

brother ran away at 15 to follow the dead and probably wasn't a sober at any

point in those years), actually got into a big imbroglio on my mom with her

deathbead because she sent out a gang email to their AA group telling everyone

that was in serious trouble and forgot to pull my mom's email off the

list.

So nada in denial gets the email as she is a week away from death in the

hospital on the damn i phone she had to have because all her friends had one and

there is a huge maelstrom because enNPDsf is egging her on to get mad at this AA

know it all guru for having the nerve to act like my mother was dying. I was

like really, am I in the ef-ing twilight zone? How about some words about dying,

leaving this life, loving us, appreciating us. Whatevs.

We should do another thread of Nada deathbed experiences. It is just too much.

Jaleo

> > >

> > > God I can relate to this so much. My alcoholic bpd/npd mother when she

got sober when I was 13 became " perfect " (We all KNOW she was already LOL), and

started spewing AA mantra to me all the time. So the AA stuff 12 step stuff is

really triggering for me. She acted like she was in a cult reciting the steps

constantly and breaking into the serenity prayer at the slightest sign of

stress.

> > >

> > > Now, I am in no way dumping on you all who attend 12 step meetings - where

you all are is the meeting I would want to go to. But I will say that my T has

said that about 60% of alcoholics are pds. And all the people my mom picked up

from AA exemplified this, so yes, I have a lot of negative feelings related to

AA.

> > >

> > > Her love/hate AA guru friend (who sounds just like the know it all you are

not working the program enough type you describe ) came up to me after

her Memorial service and told me that she wanted me to know that my mom loved

every single hair on my head even when I was a teenager. She waited really long

to the end of the reception to tell me (I kept her waiting as I was greeting

other people as I disliked this woman and knew from my mother's diaries that

they talked smack about me a lot). The best feeling I had was acting completely

indifferent to her info. Boy she was pissed she had to wait and didn't even get

a rise out of me.

> > >

> > > They sail off on their brooms to go hunt weaker prey.

> > >

> > > That said I am thinking about attending an adult children of alcoholic

meetings because this particular meeting does not work the steps and I hate

groups so more reason why I should go I guess. ; )

> > >

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I'm so glad you're going to give it a try. Maybe if you go enough and have your

own experiences with it, you'll override the association with your nada.

Although I will admit that I have moments in therapy when I think about how

confident nada is in all her insight and self-knowledge, and it shakes my faith

in reality. I totally get your hesitation. Tell us how it goes.

> > > >

> > > > God I can relate to this so much. My alcoholic bpd/npd mother when she

got sober when I was 13 became " perfect " (We all KNOW she was already LOL), and

started spewing AA mantra to me all the time. So the AA stuff 12 step stuff is

really triggering for me. She acted like she was in a cult reciting the steps

constantly and breaking into the serenity prayer at the slightest sign of

stress.

> > > >

> > > > Now, I am in no way dumping on you all who attend 12 step meetings -

where you all are is the meeting I would want to go to. But I will say that my

T has said that about 60% of alcoholics are pds. And all the people my mom

picked up from AA exemplified this, so yes, I have a lot of negative feelings

related to AA.

> > > >

> > > > Her love/hate AA guru friend (who sounds just like the know it all you

are not working the program enough type you describe ) came up to me

after her Memorial service and told me that she wanted me to know that my mom

loved every single hair on my head even when I was a teenager. She waited

really long to the end of the reception to tell me (I kept her waiting as I was

greeting other people as I disliked this woman and knew from my mother's diaries

that they talked smack about me a lot). The best feeling I had was acting

completely indifferent to her info. Boy she was pissed she had to wait and

didn't even get a rise out of me.

> > > >

> > > > They sail off on their brooms to go hunt weaker prey.

> > > >

> > > > That said I am thinking about attending an adult children of alcoholic

meetings because this particular meeting does not work the steps and I hate

groups so more reason why I should go I guess. ; )

> > > >

> > >

> >

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