Re: Re: As a kid I thought Hitler was my biological grandfather

[Guest guest]

I know, right??? Annie. You're not going to believe this but I watched the

boy from brazil with the kid who played the boys from brazil!!!! He was in

a play that my friend was doing. Playing that role really messed him up.

Because he said he was teased about it and treated weird.

It didn't seem to bug her at all that her daughter at around 12 years old

was putting stuff together that lead to the conclusion that she's 1/2

percent biologically Hitler the most evil person who ever lived! It's so

messed up but it really is funny.

Also I was concluding I'm 1/4 Hitler so figure how messed up I was feeling

about myself. She succeeded in making me feel like I am an evil person too.

My mother's probably the meanest person out of everybody who knows her.

It's kind of her claim to fame. She's probably somewhat proud that she is

such a monster and I think her reaction shows that.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:29 PM, anuria67854

anuria-!67854@...anuria-67854@...>

> wrote:

> **

>

>

> ...Wow...! I find that both significant and highly disturbing that your

> mother wasn't badly insulted or upset over that concept: that there was

> even a remote chance that she might be Hitler's child. I think most people

> would feel shocked, deeply insulted and appalled if that possibility

> ( " Guess what? You might be related to Hitler! " ) was offered for their

> consideration.

>

> The fact that your mother seemed even slightly pleased at the prospect

> says something very disturbing about her character. In my opinion your

> assessment of your mother as a sadistic sociopath got a check-mark on the

> " probably yes " side of the tally, that day.

>

> I'm guessing that you haven't seen the movie " The Boys from Brazil " ? If

> not, I'm thinking you would find it both ironic and relevant to your

> childhood fear.

>

> -Annie

>

>

>

> >

> > This thought terrorized me as a child but it's kind of funny now. Let

> > me explain.

> >

> > I was a child in the US in 70s. Trashy newspapers would have headlines

> > that Hitler was alive in Brazil like some other former Nazis.

> >

> > My mother was born in 52 in Brazil.

> >

> > Clearly Hitler ran off after 45 went to Brazil to impregnate my

> > horrible b**tchy grandmother. Then I I examined my mother for his

> > features. She was a verrry pale Brazilian with black hair. Check. And

> > I weirdly got my grandfather's blue eyes! Both my parents are Latino

> > so my eyes were a bit unusual.

> >

> > Now that it's all over and I see how my mother was a flat out sadist

> > sociopath terror woman it's kind of funny the gymnastics my mind did

> > to try and understand her. Hitler was the most evil man ever (in the

> > US in the 70s) . . .

> >

> > One day, when she wasn't screaming and gnashing her teeth, I told her

> > this story in a restaurant. She never showed her evilness in public

> > and I realize now that I really knew this. I kind of thought she'd rip

> > my head off for telling her this. She liked the idea quite a bit from

> > her reaction and she never brought it up again.

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

To contribute to this dark humor, my nada has same bday as hitler, my bro same

as Nixon, and I'm same as W.

I kind of get your nada's smirk of a reaction to you thinking she's hitler's

child: I do think they can see their meanness as a badge of honor, like " being

the baddest b@#$% on the block " somehow makes them better than everyone else...

or, at the very least, not at risk of someone else getting best of them/last

word/etc. My nada revels in " letting 'em have it " and gloats over her " victories

" (usually at unsuspecting customer service agents over the phone).

Since she turned 65, she has added " and I'm a senior citizen!!! " to her tirade.

Sometimes I can't control my laughter and she gets that aforementioned smirk.

Altho, now I wonder if she's just trying to convince herself she didn't go over

the top and just looks for reassurance from the few who will listen to her

stories.

Millicent Kunstler millicentkunstler@...> wrote:

>I know, right??? Annie. You're not going to believe this but I watched the

>boy from brazil with the kid who played the boys from brazil!!!! He was in

>a play that my friend was doing. Playing that role really messed him up.

>Because he said he was teased about it and treated weird.

>

>It didn't seem to bug her at all that her daughter at around 12 years old

>was putting stuff together that lead to the conclusion that she's 1/2

>percent biologically Hitler the most evil person who ever lived! It's so

>messed up but it really is funny.

>

>Also I was concluding I'm 1/4 Hitler so figure how messed up I was feeling

>about myself. She succeeded in making me feel like I am an evil person too.

>

>My mother's probably the meanest person out of everybody who knows her.

>It's kind of her claim to fame. She's probably somewhat proud that she is

>such a monster and I think her reaction shows that.

>

>On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:29 PM, anuria67854

>anuria-!67854@...anuria-67854@...>

>> wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> ...Wow...! I find that both significant and highly disturbing that your

>> mother wasn't badly insulted or upset over that concept: that there was

>> even a remote chance that she might be Hitler's child. I think most people

>> would feel shocked, deeply insulted and appalled if that possibility

>> ( " Guess what? You might be related to Hitler! " ) was offered for their

>> consideration.

>>

>> The fact that your mother seemed even slightly pleased at the prospect

>> says something very disturbing about her character. In my opinion your

>> assessment of your mother as a sadistic sociopath got a check-mark on the

>> " probably yes " side of the tally, that day.

>>

>> I'm guessing that you haven't seen the movie " The Boys from Brazil " ? If

>> not, I'm thinking you would find it both ironic and relevant to your

>> childhood fear.

>>

>> -Annie

>>

>>

>>

>> >

>> > This thought terrorized me as a child but it's kind of funny now. Let

>> > me explain.

>> >

>> > I was a child in the US in 70s. Trashy newspapers would have headlines

>> > that Hitler was alive in Brazil like some other former Nazis.

>> >

>> > My mother was born in 52 in Brazil.

>> >

>> > Clearly Hitler ran off after 45 went to Brazil to impregnate my

>> > horrible b**tchy grandmother. Then I I examined my mother for his

>> > features. She was a verrry pale Brazilian with black hair. Check. And

>> > I weirdly got my grandfather's blue eyes! Both my parents are Latino

>> > so my eyes were a bit unusual.

>> >

>> > Now that it's all over and I see how my mother was a flat out sadist

>> > sociopath terror woman it's kind of funny the gymnastics my mind did

>> > to try and understand her. Hitler was the most evil man ever (in the

>> > US in the 70s) . . .

>> >

>> > One day, when she wasn't screaming and gnashing her teeth, I told her

>> > this story in a restaurant. She never showed her evilness in public

>> > and I realize now that I really knew this. I kind of thought she'd rip

>> > my head off for telling her this. She liked the idea quite a bit from

>> > her reaction and she never brought it up again.

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're probably right. The sense I get is that sociopaths feel they're the

strong wolves. The ones with the courage to be their bad selves and the

rest of us are dumb little sheep afraid to be as great (and real) as they

are. Seems to be one of the few concepts that makes them feel great.

Hitler was famous and strong and no one messed with him for quite a while.

How great is that? from the sociopath angle? And if he actually escaped and

fooled everyone? All the better! It really is a bizarro world way of seeing

things.

Sooo glad I am completely severed from that creature. Hopefully I'll be

able to forget her more and more.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Nightsquirrel

thenightsquirrel@...>wrote:

> **

>

>

> To contribute to this dark humor, my nada has same bday as hitler, my bro

> same as Nixon, and I'm same as W.

>

> I kind of get your nada's smirk of a reaction to you thinking she's

> hitler's child: I do think they can see their meanness as a badge of honor,

> like " being the baddest b@#$% on the block " somehow makes them better

> than everyone else...

>

> or, at the very least, not at risk of someone else getting best of

> them/last word/etc. My nada revels in " letting 'em have it " and gloats over

> her " victories " (usually at unsuspecting customer service agents over the

> phone).

>

> Since she turned 65, she has added " and I'm a senior citizen!!! " to her

> tirade. Sometimes I can't control my laughter and she gets that

> aforementioned smirk.

>

> Altho, now I wonder if she's just trying to convince herself she didn't go

> over the top and just looks for reassurance from the few who will listen to

> her stories.

>

> Millicent Kunstler millicentkunstler@...> wrote:

>

> >I know, right??? Annie. You're not going to believe this but I watched the

> >boy from brazil with the kid who played the boys from brazil!!!! He was in

> >a play that my friend was doing. Playing that role really messed him up.

> >Because he said he was teased about it and treated weird.

> >

> >It didn't seem to bug her at all that her daughter at around 12 years old

> >was putting stuff together that lead to the conclusion that she's 1/2

> >percent biologically Hitler the most evil person who ever lived! It's so

> >messed up but it really is funny.

> >

> >Also I was concluding I'm 1/4 Hitler so figure how messed up I was feeling

> >about myself. She succeeded in making me feel like I am an evil person

> too.

> >

> >My mother's probably the meanest person out of everybody who knows her.

> >It's kind of her claim to fame. She's probably somewhat proud that she is

> >such a monster and I think her reaction shows that.

> >

> >On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:29 PM, anuria67854

> >anuria-!67854@...anuria-67854@...>

> >> wrote:

> >

> >> **

> >>

> >>

> >> ...Wow...! I find that both significant and highly disturbing that your

> >> mother wasn't badly insulted or upset over that concept: that there was

> >> even a remote chance that she might be Hitler's child. I think most

> people

> >> would feel shocked, deeply insulted and appalled if that possibility

> >> ( " Guess what? You might be related to Hitler! " ) was offered for their

> >> consideration.

> >>

> >> The fact that your mother seemed even slightly pleased at the prospect

> >> says something very disturbing about her character. In my opinion your

> >> assessment of your mother as a sadistic sociopath got a check-mark on

> the

> >> " probably yes " side of the tally, that day.

> >>

> >> I'm guessing that you haven't seen the movie " The Boys from Brazil " ? If

> >> not, I'm thinking you would find it both ironic and relevant to your

> >> childhood fear.

> >>

> >> -Annie

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> >

> >> > This thought terrorized me as a child but it's kind of funny now. Let

> >> > me explain.

> >> >

> >> > I was a child in the US in 70s. Trashy newspapers would have headlines

> >> > that Hitler was alive in Brazil like some other former Nazis.

> >> >

> >> > My mother was born in 52 in Brazil.

> >> >

> >> > Clearly Hitler ran off after 45 went to Brazil to impregnate my

> >> > horrible b**tchy grandmother. Then I I examined my mother for his

> >> > features. She was a verrry pale Brazilian with black hair. Check. And

> >> > I weirdly got my grandfather's blue eyes! Both my parents are Latino

> >> > so my eyes were a bit unusual.

> >> >

> >> > Now that it's all over and I see how my mother was a flat out sadist

> >> > sociopath terror woman it's kind of funny the gymnastics my mind did

> >> > to try and understand her. Hitler was the most evil man ever (in the

> >> > US in the 70s) . . .

> >> >

> >> > One day, when she wasn't screaming and gnashing her teeth, I told her

> >> > this story in a restaurant. She never showed her evilness in public

> >> > and I realize now that I really knew this. I kind of thought she'd rip

> >> > my head off for telling her this. She liked the idea quite a bit from

> >> > her reaction and she never brought it up again.

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >