Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 dear all, i had made a few posts in the last couple months about my step dad having cancer. he just passed away today. i am happy for him for now i know he is truly peaceful. the pain i feel is that of my bpd nada who has lost him...he was her emotional punching bag for 18 years. me and my younger brother have made contact through a family member to let nada know that we would like to be there for her to support her in this difficult time....waiting to hear back. my nada is queen/witch and i dont know how unpredicatble she is going to be in this vunerable time....any thoughts would be appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 So sorry to hear about your situation. I'm assuming you've been NC for a while. That will be very tough. I wish I had some wisdom but like you said they are unpredictable so really the only thing you can do is be prepared for anything and not allow yourself to get sucked in emotionally. . . medium chill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 So sorry to hear about your step-dad... he is at peace now. This will be a tough time for all. This is a perfect example of how a life event or some kind of experience will force us to step outside our NC status and become engaged in Nada's life again. The challenge will be what to do moving forward. Establishing new boundaries based on an entirely new dynamic. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Please allow me to offer my sympathy and condolances to you. This will be a trying time and you are very wise to reach out for help. There is no way to predict how your nada will react. Her moods may change form day to day, minute to minute, or seem like normal grief. You've made the compassionate offer to be there for her. The ball is in her court (and you never know how it is going to bounce off the padded walls!). Be kind to yourself during this time. Do whatever you need to do to honor the memory of your step-father. Create as much closure as you can and then accept that you must move on. It is hard to accept that we can not change the past. We can not magically cure BPD. Our only option to work on ourselves and to be as loving and kind as possible. MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 My thoughts are with you on losing your stepdad. Its hard to lose a parent. And I agree that its kind and compassionate of you to offer to break contact so you can be supportive of your bpd mother in her grief and loss, but I hope that you will do this with your eyes open and with your boundaries in place. The death of her spouse is probably triggering your nada's abandonment fears extremely. My nada behaved in a very out-of-character way when my dad died; she became very unemotional, almost robot-like. She efficiently and emotionlessly took care of all the details surrounding dad's terminal illness, his death, funeral and cremation. I didn't see or hear her cry the whole time I was there. I think nada might have slipped into a state of denial or depersonalization or something; perhaps the shock was too great for her? Nada's detached, unemotional yet efficient and outwardly functional state lasted for months. Nada relayed to me (after the fact) that she'd had an explosive, hysterical crying fit nearly a year after dad died, when she'd had to have her elderly cat put to sleep. After that, nada began acting more like herself again, such as using Sister as her emotional punching bag (as she'd treated dad, and as she'd treated Sister and me when we were growing up.) Nada's standard bpd behaviors returned in full force. So, I agree that its important to stay aware; stay " in the moment " , and if your nada becomes abusive toward you then enforce your boundaries and take a time out, or whatever you decide the consequences of boundary-violation are. Its OK to maintain your boundaries and enforce them even with a grieving nada. You were not put on this earth to be her emotional or physical punching bag. -Annie > > Please allow me to offer my sympathy and condolances to you. This will be a trying time and you are very wise to reach out for help. > > There is no way to predict how your nada will react. Her moods may change form day to day, minute to minute, or seem like normal grief. You've made the compassionate offer to be there for her. The ball is in her court (and you never know how it is going to bounce off the padded walls!). > > Be kind to yourself during this time. Do whatever you need to do to honor the memory of your step-father. Create as much closure as you can and then accept that you must move on. > > It is hard to accept that we can not change the past. We can not magically cure BPD. Our only option to work on ourselves and to be as loving and kind as possible. > > MB > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 thanks everyone, my dad who passed on the message to my nada this morning called me just now. he said while he was talking to her paying his repsects and sympathies she was quite and crying. at the end he mentioned that me and my brother and before he could go on she hung up the phone. he rang again no answer, tried the second time and my older brother picked up (who has traits of bpd and we have had no contcact with him either) he told my dad that my nada does not want to hear our names at all. My dad than went on very gently and tactlfully explaining that me and my brother just want to be there for her and show support, in which he just listened and said ok. my dad said he thinks he may pass on the message depending on her emtional state. I wasnt epxecting her to welcome me with open arms or anything close to that but hearing how she reacted at such a hard time for her hurts. i guess will just wait and see. the funeral is going to be in a day or two and not sure what i should do?? thankyou again > > > > Please allow me to offer my sympathy and condolances to you. This will be a trying time and you are very wise to reach out for help. > > > > There is no way to predict how your nada will react. Her moods may change form day to day, minute to minute, or seem like normal grief. You've made the compassionate offer to be there for her. The ball is in her court (and you never know how it is going to bounce off the padded walls!). > > > > Be kind to yourself during this time. Do whatever you need to do to honor the memory of your step-father. Create as much closure as you can and then accept that you must move on. > > > > It is hard to accept that we can not change the past. We can not magically cure BPD. Our only option to work on ourselves and to be as loving and kind as possible. > > > > MB > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Well said... You have made yourself available to Nada. What she chooses to do is her choice. You need to have your personal closure with your step dad. Take care of you...that's all you can control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 the drama has escalated....my cousin also conveyed the message to my nada when she went to visit today that me and my bro want to see her and support her. After she said this my nada completely went APE SHIT into rage....she started breaking things and screaming and cursing me and my brother. My other relatives were there too who are flyiny monkeys who also started raging calling us names. My cousin said she had never seen such a thing and she had to leave..sigh. she said that my nada is only being fueled by evil people and i believe that....i guess its clear to me that i should stay away and not go to the funeral.. > > Well said... > > You have made yourself available to Nada. > What she chooses to do is her choice. > > You need to have your personal closure with your step dad. > > Take care of you...that's all you can control. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 I'm so sorry. Would it help you and your brother to honor and say goodbye to your stepdad if you visit his gravesite after the formal burial service? Perhaps the kindly cousin you mentioned would like to visit his gravesite with the two of you; it would be like a private memorial service for him. Its so sad that your nada is reacting in this manner; bpd fear of abandonment can be overwhelming for them, and I'm guessing that your nada may also have built up a lot of narcissistic rage that she's expressing now. Even in non-pd people, deep grief can be expressed in extreme ways, and even in strangely out-of-character ways (as my nada did). Keep reminding yourself that your nada's mental illness, her feelings and her behaviors are truly not about you; you didn't cause her to be the way she is and you can't change her or cure her. Keep reminding yourself that your nada's extreme reactions are coming from someone whose brain isn't wired the way most people's are. My best wishes for you and your brother that you will be able to have peace and closure with your stepdad's passing. -Annie > > > > Well said... > > > > You have made yourself available to Nada. > > What she chooses to do is her choice. > > > > You need to have your personal closure with your step dad. > > > > Take care of you...that's all you can control. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 It seems that your cousin is very insightful as to the workings of your family. BPD is more than one person's mental state. It is a disease that devastates entire families. While I strongly applaud you for doing what is best for you, I would be remiss if i did not remind you that you are allowed to " think outside the box. " You may invite those who are stable to join you for a dinner in memory of your step father, donate to his favorite charity, visit his grave or the area where his ashes were spread, or hold a private memorial in his honor (it can be as simple as reading his favorite poem aloud in a place that he loved). Do not allow yourself to be robbed of closure. You are a valuable human being and your nada's actions do not define you. Beth the drama has escalated....my cousin also conveyed the message to my nada when she went to visit today that me and my bro want to see her and support her. After she said this my nada completely went APE SHIT into rage....she started breaking things and screaming and cursing me and my brother. My other relatives were there too who are flyiny monkeys who also started raging calling us names. My cousin said she had never seen such a thing and she had to leave..sigh. she said that my nada is only being fueled by evil people and i believe that....i guess its clear to me that i should stay away and not go to the funeral.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 That is a sensitive and lovely suggestion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Its my step dads funeral today and it hurts that me and my younger brother have been disalllowed to attend... " or they will be a scene " ...we have been told. So sad and such a pathetic display by nada and her flying monkeys. They have even gone as far as to try to managed peoples perception by saying that my step dads last dying wish was that me and my brother not attend his funeral which is total BS. He was the most gentle and loving soul...and those words i can bet on did not come out of his mouth unless some manipulation was involved. my borther and i are both respected members of our community and for us not being there is going to raise questions...This is her stage to play the victim to the tee. Sometimes i feel this is a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 You have my deepest sympathy. Those who know and respect you in the community will realize that something isn't right and will take what your nada says with a grain of salt. The ironic thing about family secrets is that they never really are! MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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