Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Annie very kindly pointed out that my question regarding what happens to a mentally ill person after death might cause friction on the board. That was not my intent. As I am a " mail only " member, I am not aware of a method which would allow me to remove the post. Might you be so kind as to delete it? Again, I apologize and take full responsibility for my mindless act. MB Re: " I gave you life so I can take it away " ((((( Beth))))) I'm so sorry, MB. Your pd mother was unfortunately way over into the criminal child abuse end of the spectrum. Assaulting you with a hammer, injuring you so badly and then not get you the medical attention you needed was criminal child abuse, assault and battery. Your nada must have been aware that she would have been arrested if the truth came out, so she kept you from seeing a doctor. That level of self-interest, child mistreatment and neglect screams " psychopathy " to me: an even more serious and dangerous/potentially deadly situation for a vulnerable, helpless, trusting child to be in. Truly, you should have been rescued and removed from her " care " for your own safety. Locking you up naked to perhaps starve or die of dehydration is also extremely indicative that your mother was way too mentally ill to have been raising a child alone and unsupervised. I'm so sorry. No child should have to endure such treatment. You are lucky to even be alive, really. I wish that there was some kind of system in place to supervise or monitor parents, particularly if there is no spouse, no other adult, no extended family that is involved with the child or cares about the child's welfare. A child has no chance against a severely mentally ill parent who can trigger into such violent aggression and harsh punishment toward them; no chance at all. Just so you know, there is a separate Group at WTO for those who wish to discuss having a bpd loved one from a Christian perspective. Since this particular Group is supporting KOs of many different religious faiths, including agnostics and atheists, religious discussions in the past have tended to wind up causing friction; the discussions can so easily morph into debates in which various members feel the need to defend, explain or argue about their differing religious or philosophical beliefs. Religious discussions seem to fare better here when members just state what has worked or is working for them, in their own situation, and avoid promoting their own religious beliefs as the only way, the best way, or the right way to believe, and carefully avoid disparaging the beliefs of others. -Annie > > I heard this one all the time as well. There are two events that haunt me most. The time that I came closest to death was the day she beat me with a hammer. IShe had ordered me to install instulation in the crawl space beneath the farm house. When I bulked at the spiders and broken glass in the space, WHAMMO! I completed that job with broken ribs and a dislovated shoulder that never healed correctly. The second even gave me nightmares and flashbacks for years. I don't recall what set nada off but she locked me in a room with no light, heat, clothing, food or water. There was one very small and high window that I could not reach and was frightend that if I did get out people would think I was crazy for running around with no clothing. > > Looking back now that I understand BPD I can see how very sick nada was. When she was in Witch Phase, which was almost every evening, my life really was in danger. It's hard not to hate that part of her even if she was mentally ill. > > That leads me to another odd ball question. What happens to the mentally ill after they die? I've heard countless sermons on how physical suffering ends in heaven. What about mental illness? Is it cured too? Nada had turned her back on religion and later on God too. She did some good things in her life but the best I can eek out of my heart is thinking that maybe she is in Purgatory with a lot of work to do. Any thoughts? > > MB > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Its OK, don't worry about it, its not a problem if the post is not deleted. (You are the only one who can delete your own posts; you can when you're logged in at the Group site.) I just wanted to give you a head's up about what the potential is when religious questions are broached. Stating what philosophy, belief or religious practice works for you and has helped you is good to share, keeping in mind that debating personal beliefs can end up being counterproductive. That's all. -Annie > > Annie very kindly pointed out that my question regarding what happens to a mentally ill person after death might cause friction on the board. That was not my intent. As I am a " mail only " member, I am not aware of a method which would allow me to remove the post. Might you be so kind as to delete it? > > Again, I apologize and take full responsibility for my mindless act. > > MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I don't see why your question would cause friction... I know where my Nada is going after death and I hope she packs a flame retardant suit to take along... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 ROFL! I'm not sure I won't hide her suitcase! In those mean moment when I think of nada not experiencing any sort of eternal life, I recall her own words, " There isn't any heaven! When you die, that's it. Just like turning out a light. " I haven't " felt " nada. There has been a relief that she can do no more hard but there have been neither nightmares nor dreams that she is in a better place. Maybe she didn't follow the light. Maybe she just reached over and turned it off! MB Re: I'm Sorry Group I don't see why your question would cause friction... I know where my Nada is going after death and I hope she packs a flame retardant suit to take along... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Sounds like you answered your own question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Oops, and I replied to your question. If faith is an important part of who you are, I don't want to ignore it. I know it's an important part of my life but also know many others aren't comfortable with it. That's fine and I don't push my beliefs on them. They are just my beliefs after all. I guess I'm naive enough to think we can discuss things without getting defensive, even disagree so we can share different points of view. You can tell I haven't grown up yet. :-) > > Annie very kindly pointed out that my question regarding what happens to a mentally ill person after death might cause friction on the board. That was not my intent. As I am a " mail only " member, I am not aware of a method which would allow me to remove the post. Might you be so kind as to delete it? > > Again, I apologize and take full responsibility for my mindless act. > > MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Dear Irene and all, It's not a matter of personal opinion or judgment. And it's not up for debate. It's simply part of the mandate of the group. And it's completely neutral: This is a group where we don't discuss religion. That's all. It's as simple and neutral as if you don't join a football team to play basketball, or join a wine club to make pottery. Please review the official WTO guidelines to verify this. They explicitly ask members to refrain from giving any advice regarding religious beliefs, and refer members to the Christian group if that is something they need. (Under 'files' on the left of the website). Thanks all! > > > > Annie very kindly pointed out that my question regarding what happens to a mentally ill person after death might cause friction on the board. That was not my intent. As I am a " mail only " member, I am not aware of a method which would allow me to remove the post. Might you be so kind as to delete it? > > > > Again, I apologize and take full responsibility for my mindless act. > > > > MB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Flame retardant LOL. I'm sorry that was just clever. > > I don't see why your question would cause friction... > > I know where my Nada is going after death and I hope she packs a flame > retardant suit to take along... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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