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Those in this group that have pfd, I was curious what you think started the pfd?

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Carolyn52192@... wrote: >>>>>>Those in this group that have pfd, I was curious what you think started the pfd? That's a tough question, Carolyn, for myself, I think it has a lot to do with underlying structural issues - that started early in childhood. I don't think my pelvis is misaligned due to muscle issues (though that is a part 'now') but I think it's mainly a problem with my right SI joint or the ligaments that are 'supposed' to hold it in place...or both! When the pelvis is misaligned, then the muscles begin to do the job of the ligaments and develop triggers. So it seems to be a domino effect, until the

'underlying' issues are taken care of. Just my two cents.... Hugs, Chelle

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Where would I begin? Who knows, but my list is: a lifetime of riding horses bareback and numerous vaginal "racks" on the horses' withers, my brothers friends molesting me when I was about ten, low core strength, questionable posture (due to core strength), a horrific childbirth, low arches, an abusive first marriage, a hangnail on my pinkie, numerous stubbed toes, etcccc.

All straws on the camel's back.

love, Molly

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Carolyn52192@ aol.com wrote:

>>>>>>Those in this group that have pfd, I was curious what you think started the pfd?

That's a tough question, Carolyn, for myself, I think it has a lot to do with underlying structural issues - that started early in childhood. I don't think my pelvis is misaligned due to muscle issues (though that is a part 'now') but I think it's mainly a problem with my right SI joint or the ligaments that are 'supposed' to hold it in place...or both!

When the pelvis is misaligned, then the muscles begin to do the job of the ligaments and develop triggers. So it seems to be a domino effect, until the 'underlying' issues are taken care of. Just my two cents.... Hugs, Chelle

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C,

I agree with the others..there seem to be many triggers that come

together to finally do us in. I had horrible chronic constipation my

whole life from the time I was potty trained due to poor diet and an

unknown gluten intolerance, so years and years of straining and

actually holding in BM's because they hurt too much - that takes it's

toll. Then used birth control pills..that was another piece of it. The

final straw for me was the Hep. B vaccine series, a known LP trigger.

Interesting how differently we are all affected by things along the way

in our lives.

Melinda C. in Mass.

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I think my pfd was caused by 14 years of ballet lessons, four years of cheer, two of gymnastics and four years of being a "flyer" or top in our cheer stunts. Six years of running, eight years of horseback riding, recurrent yeast infections starting at age seventeen, being molested as a kid and raped by an ex-husband. Being on my own since I was 17 and working 2-3 jobs at a time to put myself through eight years of college wondering the whole time if I could pay the rent or not AND eat all at the same time. ...and a partridge in a pear tree! Haha, seriously, all of that activity that I named off really does a pounding on a woman's pelvic floor and creates horrible tension in your core/pelvic floor. Add the infections, stress, and abuse on top of it and viola! Lindsey

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I agree, the pelvic floor muscles can only take so much before they go crazy and fire off 24/7. I think what triggered my PFD was competitive dancing (jazz, tap, ballet, hip-hop) for 12 years. All that dancing, took a HUGE toll on my body physically, I have a bad lower back, weak knees and ankles. I too have had vaginal infections since I was nineteen now twenty four and I'm still battling with this issue. The first time I tried to had sex the guy was on the larger side and I was terrified....I clenched my pelvic floor because I was scared and nervous at the same time. From then on my sexual experiences, I would tense up out of anxiety so sex never was completely enjoyable. Stress is a major factor, I need to pick and choose my battles with my b/f because I snap quickly and yell which is NOT good at all.

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I think my pfd was caused by 14 years of ballet lessons, four years of cheer, two of gymnastics and four years of being a "flyer" or top in our cheer stunts. Six years of running, eight years of horseback riding, recurrent yeast infections starting at age seventeen, being molested as a kid and raped by an ex-husband. Being on my own since I was 17 and working 2-3 jobs at a time to put myself through eight years of college wondering the whole time if I could pay the rent or not AND eat all at the same time. ...and a partridge in a pear tree! Haha, seriously, all of that activity that I named off really does a pounding on a woman's pelvic floor and creates horrible tension in your core/pelvic floor. Add the infections, stress, and abuse on top of it and viola!

Lindsey

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It interesting the catalysts that we think lead up to the pfd. I keep thinking that it has to be something anatomically wrong because others do these things without any consequences. Even infections, others have infections and don't wind up with pfd??

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Right on, ! Another dancer! Maybe we should put together a Pelvic Floor Dysfunction Dance Troupe and take our act on the road...but only with very short car trips and all of us sitting on donut seats and popping pain pills when we're done performing. Just kidding! Seriously, I did find that once I stopped doing traditional dance/aerobics stuff and I started up belly dance I felt a lot better. In belly dance if it hurts you are doing it wrong, where in hip-hop/ballet/jazz/tap there is usually pain in the more spectacular moves. I remember when I was training to be on the dance team at University of Nevada, Las Vegas I perfected the following move: a herky jump, a toe touch and then I landed directly in the splits on the floor without stopping on my feet in between. Yeesh...it's a wonder I am not completely crippled. I have been pain free the past week-the longest I've been in the past two

years. I owe so much of it to PT, estrace cream, acupuncture, and taking diflucan weekly for two months. I think the wellbutrin helped, too, along with talk therapy and daily yoga. Lindsey

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Why would there be something anatomically wrong? I can tell you

there is nothing anatomically wrong with me-other people just have

their own health problems (bad backs, bad knees, obesity, migraines,

etc.) and pay in their own individual way for overusing their

bodies. Also, a lot of women have this problem and haven't been

diagnosed because doctors are so idiotic about it.

Lindsey

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> It interesting the catalysts that we think lead up to the pfd. I

keep

> thinking that it has to be something anatomically wrong because

others do these

> things without any consequences. Even infections, others have

infections and

> don't wind up with pfd??

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> C

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Dear C and Lindsey: You guys are great and I love ya! Well, it is what it

is and reasoning about it over and over does not solve the problem. I tried

to drive myself crazy trying to figure it out, " what did I do wrong? " " eat

wrong " etc. Well, that just adds stress to the mix which they tell me can

cause belly fat and who wants that!! LOL So I have decided that just like

anything else, I make it what i want it to be. I can have just as nice a day

or as bad a day as I choose to have. Having a nice one actually lowers my

stress and lowers the pain level ...so I AM A WINNER!! My neighbor tells

his soon to be seven year old son " make sure you make right choices " . So

when I start to hurt I take off my jeans (yes I have started wearing jeans

again) put on my comfy pants and relax with a cup of tea and a book or

whatever else suits me. love, ML

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Why would there be something anatomically wrong? I can tell you

there is nothing anatomically wrong with me-other people just have

their own health problems (bad backs, bad knees, obesity, migraines,

etc.) and pay in their own individual way for overusing their

bodies. Also, a lot of women have this problem and haven't been

diagnosed because doctors are so idiotic about it.

Lindsey

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> It interesting the catalysts that we think lead up to the pfd. I

keep

> thinking that it has to be something anatomically wrong because

others do these

> things without any consequences. Even infections, others have

infections and

> don't wind up with pfd??

>

> C

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I think it's a very plausable claim that pfd might be due at

least in part to something anatomical. Actually I would put it

a bit dfferently and say some of us may have a genetic

predisposition. In any case it would seem only rarely to be

caused JUST by overuse.

I don't think, and hope you're not suggesting that people with

migraines, bad knees (me! and definately not from overuse, just

bad genetics and bad luck) and so on, have such conditions

because of " overusing " their bodies. Of course this may be true

for some, but for many, not so.

I absolutely agree with you tho, about pdf being underdiagnosed.

Anyway I thought Carolyn raised a valid an interesting point.

Janet

--- Lindsey wrote:

> Why would there be something anatomically wrong? I can tell

> you

> there is nothing anatomically wrong with me-other people just

> have

> their own health problems (bad backs, bad knees, obesity,

> migraines,

> etc.) and pay in their own individual way for overusing their

> bodies. Also, a lot of women have this problem and haven't

> been

> diagnosed because doctors are so idiotic about it.

> Lindsey

>

> >

> > It interesting the catalysts that we think lead up to the

> pfd. I

> keep

> > thinking that it has to be something anatomically wrong

> because

> others do these

> > things without any consequences. Even infections, others

> have

> infections and

> > don't wind up with pfd??

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I have issues with my right leg being shorter than my left and

I've had this problem since childhood tied in to a medical

problem that goes back to childhood. Right now my podiatrist is

trying to correct this anatomical problem with my shortened

right leg by giving me orthotics of which I'm trying to break in

and have been trying to do so for a week and half now.

One thing I'm noticing but not sure yet if it has to do with the

orthotics but am keeping an eye on it as I break these in: is

that so far my vulvar area doesn't hurt a lot. I ran this by my

Pain Management doctor to see what she said and she said that my

shortened leg (she called it asymmetry, but I like to call it

asymmetroisis-a play on the word asymmetry that came from a

children's program that used to air when I was a kid that helped

kids learn Math: Square One Tv) could be a factor for why I have

issues with vulvodynia and that correcting the asymmetry may be

helping to ease it (and that's in addition to the other things

I'm doing for the vulvodynia).

But I do know that my problems with my vulvodynia (part of it

that is) has to do with the anatomical problem of my shortened

right leg and not because of overuse although I can see where

Lindsey comes from about the overuse being an issue for some.

And as I start to understand more about my situation and see

what happens with these orthotics after I break them in I can

then look at another possibility such as the issue of overuse

and take that back to my podiatrist and say, " Well, what about? "

just like I asked him about the issue of the pain that I have

had over the past 10 years and especially now (with thinking

that my endo has recurred and set off my vulvodynia as it did

before). I asked him if this pain that I thought was related to

my female problems getting worse may have been this. And

explained about the pubic bone pain over the past nearly 2

years. His answer was, " Absolutely " .

After having read up a ton on Podiatry in recent days to the

past week I now understand just how important the profession

truly is instead of assuming that it's only for certain

situations such as treating people who are Diabetic. I have

learned that they are very experienced at helping with different

problems such as shortened leg disorders (of which I have among

other things as I said above) and treating problems that not

only relate to the foot and ankle but also the leg, hips, and

knees. All this area is classifed as the lower extremity (this

was new to me because I thought lower extremity always had to do

just with the leg only and of course the foot).

Thanks to the information it's helping me to understand a bit

better how these things connect and connect to what our

wonderful resident PT Tom has said.

The point is there are many reasons for what can cause a pelvic

floor problem for those that it applies to and one of those

factors may be just about having a problem with anatomical

asymmetry or something along that line.

Kristy

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I believe that my VVS was caused by a anatomical/genetic component b/c

it is something that I have had since as far back as my first tampon.

Mine seems to be all connected to the myofasial tissue as when I

stopped wearing underware, the pain stopped too. The skin rolling just

kills me...another sign. My mother has never had an issue. I have

only ever had on infection and that was in the past year. So that

didn't cause my issue either. Some just have it from birth/early on

through no fault of their own.

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> I think it's a very plausable claim that pfd might be due at

> least in part to something anatomical. Actually I would put it

> a bit dfferently and say some of us may have a genetic

> predisposition. In any case it would seem only rarely to be

> caused JUST by overuse.