Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 FOr a ! month old!!!!!!???? I think not! Floride doesn't need to be given to babies especially beofre 6 months! After 6 months if the baby is drinking a littel water then floride is not at all neccessary! As for iron, your breastmilk has iron in it and is more easily absorbed that iron in vitamin drops. If the ped is concerend about your babies iron level he needs to chekc it before giving vitamins. Most docs won't give vitamins until at least 6 months. Your babies iron stores from when you carried him last for the forst 6-8 month sof life. And by that time they are eating solids and do'nt need the iron drops. I can't believe your doc gave vitamins to a 1 month old! Jodi Mommy to twin girls and Mackenzie 7-11-1999 icq#70190079 Go to picturetrail.com/twinsmegmac to see pics of my girls!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 In a message dated 9/11/00 11:16:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jackpot@... writes: << We just returned from the pediatrician and she prescribed vitamins with fluoride for my baby. Did anyone else take these? What are your thoughts on this? >> Your Dr. wants a 1 month old on vitamins/flouride??? That just doesn't seem right. We have well water with NO fluoride added so my Dr. prescribed fluoride at 4 months, do I give it to her? eh, when I think about it, after reading some links that Wendi sent awhile back I worry about the fluoride dangers but I still believe MY children need the little extra they get in their multivitamin/flouride my doctor prescribes for them, when gets old enough to take a multivitamin/flouride pill like her sisters then she will get fluoride but untill then I just don't think it is all that important, I wipe her teeth with a wet cloth and she is old enough now to get a toothbrush in there (with no toothpaste) to brush off the yuckies on the teeth. As for your baby needing vitamins at this young of an age my personal opinion no your baby doesn't need them and your doctor needs to do some reading up on the AAP recommendations. Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 Hi , Sam's doctor prescribed vitamins w/floride at his 2 month visit. I don't give them to him tho. He will probably be having his iron checked soon at wic, so we'll see how he is. Iron deficiency in children is not something to mess around it, but too much iron is no good either. I personally feel that they could get what they need from the foods they eat, unless you have a very fussy eater. My almost 3 year old is a very, very picky eater, she's a little peanut, and I'm thankful that one of the very few things she will eat is cereal - which is iron and vitamin fortified. As far as floride, I was under the impression that the benefits are from it being topical, rather than ingested - maybe someone on the list knows? Like in the vitamins, the benefits are from the liquid hitting the teeth, rather than the ingestion of floride. In either case, I stopped giving the floride because my daughter Michele has mottled teeth as a direct result of too much floride. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 We just returned from the pediatrician and she prescribed vitamins with fluoride for my baby. Did anyone else take these? What are your thoughts on this? Love, Mommy to since 10-5-98 and Cameron since 8-10-00 jackpot@... http://users.pld.com/jackpot/cameron.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 , We are a flouride free household! Your baby is WAY too young to be getting anything but mama's milk at this point. The doctor should get current on the AAP recommendations for breastfeeding. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info vitamins We just returned from the pediatrician and she prescribed vitamins with fluoride for my baby. Did anyone else take these? What are your thoughts on this? Love, Mommy to since 10-5-98 and Cameron since 8-10-00 jackpot@... http://users.pld.com/jackpot/cameron.html Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 I've never given my babies the vitamins while they were nursing, they hated them and spit them out all over both of us staining whatever we were wearing. I was told to continue my prenatals while nursing. Sue > >We just returned from the pediatrician and she prescribed vitamins with >fluoride for my baby. Did anyone else take these? What are your thoughts >on this? > >Love, > > >Mommy to since 10-5-98 and Cameron since 8-10-00 >jackpot@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 Never used them, but I was never prescribed them either. I was told to give my dd vit D drops when she was an infant and I did but my fam dr with Rowan didn't mention them and I haven't bothered with them. Michele We just returned from the pediatrician and she prescribed vitamins withfluoride for my baby. Did anyone else take these? What are your thoughtson this?Love, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 This is no need for supplements in most BFed babies until at least 6 months. From the AAP's 1997 statement. < > Perhaps you should print out the whole thing and provide a copy to your Ped so she knows what her peers and her association are recommending?? Breastfeeding and the Use of Human Milk (RE9729) http://www.aap.org/policy/re9729.html Jenn -----Original Message----- From: and We just returned from the pediatrician and she prescribed vitamins with fluoride for my baby. Did anyone else take these? What are your thoughts on this? Love, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 <> No offense to anyone here, but I've come to the conclusion that most doctors are no more than over-paid drug pushers - and pediatricians are the worst. Not only are synthetic supplemental vitamins not necessary for infants, in many cases they are harmful - hindering the absorption of naturally occurring vitamins and minerals (as is the case with iron). Suggesting *fluoridated* vitamins is ridiculous! I urge anyone who thinks their baby, child or them self needs fluoride to spend some time researching it. It's that important. Here's a good place to start; http://www.nofluoride.com I have plenty of links and references if anyone needs more. Fluoride is at best not necessary and is actually VERY toxic (more toxic than lead, only slightly less than arsenic). Sorry for the rant, I just can't believe people still recommend this crap. S. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Having power over yourself is an inoculation against the power of others. - J. Ehrlich The reason doctors are so dangerous is that they believe in what they're doing. - S. Mendelsohn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 , I don't think these are necessary at all, especially so young! Cameron is getting everything he needs from your milk and does not need anything else right now. Tina Mommy to Blake born 4-2-00 visit Blake's web site at http://www.growthspurts.com/view.asp?s=20969 > We just returned from the pediatrician and she prescribed vitamins with > fluoride for my baby. Did anyone else take these? What are your thoughts > on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 > We just returned from the pediatrician and she prescribed vitamins with > fluoride for my baby. Did anyone else take these? What are your thoughts > on this? > > Love, > > I don't feel they're necessary if you maintain a proper diet with all the vitamins and minerals babies need. Fluoride doesn't work in their stomachs anyway....it's only good for the teeth surfaces. Joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Hi Debbie, My kids usually have their iron tested at the WIC office. One of my doctors told me that iron deficiency in infants/young children could cause developmental delays. From my understanding, babies that are breastfed exclusively for the first 6 - 8 months are usually not found to have low iron - babies are born with a greater percentage of iron stores than say you or I have as an adult. At around 6 months of age, those iron stores start to be depleted, and that is usually when solids are started in general. I think that if your baby is on solids, you could just try to feed foods that are iron rich. Maybe a baby that was born premature or low birth weight might be at a higher risk for iron deficiency, I'm not sure. I do know that, when any of my kids tested low iron (hemocrit test), all it took was a change in diet to bring it back up. I think 11.5 is a little low, but not extremely low, we've been in the 10's before. But if your baby is already on solids, then just stick with the foods that are high in iron. That should help. I don't know about increasing your iron intake, someone else may know more about that. Although not due to iron deficiency, my one son has developmental delays in all areas and it is something you would want to do what you can to decrease the risk. On the other hand, don't go overboard on the iron. That can be dangerous also. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Joan - my little man was tested for anemia again yesterday and he tested at 11.5 and apparently 12 is ok and 11.5 is not. I have iron vitamins with flouride to give him and haven't wanted to - can you tell me more about your statement " Iron deficiency in children is not something to mess around it " ? Does anyone know if I just give him like more spinach if that would do the trick instead of the vitamins? I mean is 11.5 REALLY low are just KINDA low? My little man tested at 11.5 last time two months ago and I have only given him those vitamins like 4-5 times over the last two months. Would increasing vitamins in my diet help at all? TIA Debbie _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Debbie, How old is your baby and do you know what the hematocrit number is? 11.5 is not all that low for a very young baby. I can't remember how old your baby is. But the number that has been taught to me for say a four month old is to treat a hemoglobin lower than 9. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: vitamins Joan - my little man was tested for anemia again yesterday and he tested at 11.5 and apparently 12 is ok and 11.5 is not. I have iron vitamins with flouride to give him and haven't wanted to - can you tell me more about your statement " Iron deficiency in children is not something to mess around it " ? Does anyone know if I just give him like more spinach if that would do the trick instead of the vitamins? I mean is 11.5 REALLY low are just KINDA low? My little man tested at 11.5 last time two months ago and I have only given him those vitamins like 4-5 times over the last two months. Would increasing vitamins in my diet help at all? TIA Debbie _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 In a message dated 9/12/00 10:11:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, NatureBaby@... writes: > One of the best ways to increase iron in your diet is to cook with cast iron > cookware. This has been proven effective to increase the iron level in > everything that you cook in them. It is also the most absorable because it > is right in your food. > I was going to suggest this also : ) Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 My DD has never had a blood test for iron. Does most everyone's ped do this? <3 B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Wendi - my baby is almost 7 months old. See my doctor is very 'overly protective' in my mind. If there is the slightest chance of a problem she tests it or has it removed or whatever. For example - AJ was jaundice when born and was like 1/2 point under what is considered OK at birth and she had me put him under billy rubin lights for 5 days. Well 2 months later my girl friend had a baby and her baby was 2.5 points under what is considered OK and she never had to put her baby under the lights. We have different doctors. So that is why I was asking if 11.5 was REALLY considered super low or what... Kinda sounds like it isn't too big a deal from what you said. Debbie > >is. But the number that has been taught to me for say a four month old is >to treat a hemoglobin lower than 9. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Debbie, If your baby is seven months old I still don't think that 11.5 is that low. My hemoglobin was 9.7 when I was pg and I only had to bring it up to 10 to have a homebirth. Call another doctor around your area and ask them what number of hemoglobin they would start treatment for. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info RE: vitamins Wendi - my baby is almost 7 months old. See my doctor is very 'overly protective' in my mind. If there is the slightest chance of a problem she tests it or has it removed or whatever. For example - AJ was jaundice when born and was like 1/2 point under what is considered OK at birth and she had me put him under billy rubin lights for 5 days. Well 2 months later my girl friend had a baby and her baby was 2.5 points under what is considered OK and she never had to put her baby under the lights. We have different doctors. So that is why I was asking if 11.5 was REALLY considered super low or what... Kinda sounds like it isn't too big a deal from what you said. Debbie > >is. But the number that has been taught to me for say a four month old is >to treat a hemoglobin lower than 9. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Joan and Debbie, One of the best ways to increase iron in your diet is to cook with cast iron cookware. This has been proven effective to increase the iron level in everything that you cook in them. It is also the most absorable because it is right in your food. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: vitamins Hi Debbie, My kids usually have their iron tested at the WIC office. One of my doctors told me that iron deficiency in infants/young children could cause developmental delays. From my understanding, babies that are breastfed exclusively for the first 6 - 8 months are usually not found to have low iron - babies are born with a greater percentage of iron stores than say you or I have as an adult. At around 6 months of age, those iron stores start to be depleted, and that is usually when solids are started in general. I think that if your baby is on solids, you could just try to feed foods that are iron rich. Maybe a baby that was born premature or low birth weight might be at a higher risk for iron deficiency, I'm not sure. I do know that, when any of my kids tested low iron (hemocrit test), all it took was a change in diet to bring it back up. I think 11.5 is a little low, but not extremely low, we've been in the 10's before. But if your baby is already on solids, then just stick with the foods that are high in iron. That should help. I don't know about increasing your iron intake, someone else may know more about that. Although not due to iron deficiency, my one son has developmental delays in all areas and it is something you would want to do what you can to decrease the risk. On the other hand, don't go overboard on the iron. That can be dangerous also. Joan Give the Gift of Life Breastfeed! http://www.lactivist.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 <<From my understanding,babies that are breastfed exclusively for the first 6 - 8 months areusually not found to have low iron - >> I would like to stress the word USUALLY here. I have breastfed all 6 of my boys for almost a year...(some a bit more...some a bit less...) One I breastfed only 6 months. Anyway....my 5th has almost always tested low on iron at wic (I nursed him just over a year.) HOWEVER....I am very pleased to say he tested HIGH last week:o) So looks like that's over. But the rest of my kids have always tested well on iron. ,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. Eleanor Roosevelt~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 My dd had a jaundice rating of 12, whatever that means, and she didn't have to go under lights, probably because they are very pro-bf at this hospital and encouraged me to bf alot to help the jaundice go away. Although they did test her frequently. I thought that with jaundice the higher the rating the worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 > My dd had a jaundice rating of 12, whatever that means, and she didn't have to go under lights, probably because they are very pro-bf at this hospital and encouraged me to bf alot to help the jaundice go away. Although they did test her frequently. > > I thought that with jaundice the higher the rating the worse? You are correct. 's level was 17.5 and they did the lights. It wasn't until a few months later that I found that jaundice isn't at an unsafe level til it gets to about 30. For most cases, all that's needed is quite a bit of sunlight. Also, just to add for the fun of it....breastfeeding helps rid the body of jaundice. Many hospitals say that you shouldn't breastfeed and should give formula and light treatments. Joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Thank you Joan. I don't think he is developmentally behind my doc seemed to think he was about 1 1/2 months ahead of schedule physically and felt he'd be walking by the next appt in just two months...which I kinda doubt but who knows. I think I will just increase the foods with more iron in them and see how that goes. Thanks for all your input. Debbie > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Lynn you are probably right - it has been months since it happened and I forget the numbers - I have it all written down at home because I know I forget these kind of things... > > >I thought that with jaundice the higher the rating the worse? > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 I don't remember my 2 older kids being tested - I wasn't getting wic then. I remember the nurse at the wic office telling me that a sign of iron deficiency could be a bruisy looking tint around the eyes, almost like we would have tired circles under our eyes. If your kids are eating well then there probably isn't a need. I've also heard that if your young child drinks a lot of milk, excluding a lot of other food, they may be more likely to have an iron deficiency. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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